WWI Digest 4174 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: MisterKit Paints by tbittners@sprintmail.com 2) RE: Hi-Tech AEG by REwing@aol.com 3) marketing services available from- mumbai by "myindia33" 4) RE: Hi-Tech AEG by "Robinson, Michael" 5) RE: Movies by "Gaston Graf" 6) RE: All Quiet on the Western Front by "Gaston Graf" 7) RE: Movies by "Michael Kendix" 8) Online Modeling Contest? by "Brent Theobald" 9) RE: All Quiet on the Western Front by "Hans Trauner" 10) RE: Movies by plesha3@comcast.net 11) RE: Movies by "Gaston Graf" 12) RE: All Quiet on the Western Front by "Gaston Graf" 13) RE: Movies by "Gaston Graf" 14) Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by "Ross Moorhouse" 15) RE: Nieuport Detail Colours? by "Nigel Rayner" 16) RE: Movies by "Michael Kendix" 17) Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by plesha3@comcast.net 18) Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by "Michael Kendix" 19) Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by "Steven Perry" 20) Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by "Ross Moorhouse" 21) Re: vac-forming aluminum foil? by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 22) Help by "Dale Sebring" 23) Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by Shane Weier 24) Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:55:07 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: MisterKit Paints Message-ID: <20020213195507.154CE467CE@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:51:24 -0500 (EST), Nigel Rayner wrote: >This mix probably wouldn't work for airbrushing, but as we all know, real >men etc etc :-) Real men etc. etc.? Cripes, I guess I'm not a real man. I've done wink wink nudge nudge, but never etc. etc. Ah well... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:05:08 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Hi-Tech AEG Message-ID: This is a very honest and good review of this kit. I just got mine yesterday. I ordered it before all the hoopla about the wings started to appear on this list. I was really sweating it; not knowing what I would find when I opened the box. Yep, the wings are bent, but nothing like "pretzel" or "banana" shaped like I was expecting. I have to paw through the kit more to get a better impression of it, but it IS an AEG! -Rick- > Looks like Candice has a looksie at the Pretzel AEG: > http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/ww1/uhliraegpreview.htm > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 2002 01:44:32 +0530 From: "myindia33" To: Subject: marketing services available from- mumbai Message-ID: <008e01c1b53c$5fcfbe80$d3a009ca@mm> >From mumbai Marketing service & consultancy services available . If interested then -- Contact us for more details ABCOM services. mumbai Email-abcomwelcome@yahoo.com Mumbai tele- (022 ) 2553025 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:31:39 -0500 From: "Robinson, Michael" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Hi-Tech AEG Message-ID: <7D1F97C0D1ACD21186C40008C7095A41020C6736@USA0812MS1> My wings weren't all that bad either, but my fuselage was not only warped like a banana, the left side has a pronounced twist radially, and one of my resin engines had the cam and rocker detail broken off. Fortunately the piece was in the bag and it is repairable. I think Hi-Tec may want to re-examine their packaging techniques. It's definitely buildable, but I will take Candice's advise to heart and get the Datafile, and perhaps make the 4 hour drive to Ottawa to visit the real thing. When I do, I will let everyone know. If there are some particular shots you would like let me know and I will do my best to accommodate. Now all I have to do is decide what markings and color scheme to use... decisions decisions... Mike Robinson Xerox Field Engineering 1387 Fairport Rd. Bldng. 1000 Fairport, NY 14450 (716) 383-2836 Phone (800) 242-0717 Fax michael.robinson@mc.usa.xerox.com -----Original Message----- From: REwing@aol.com [mailto:REwing@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Hi-Tech AEG This is a very honest and good review of this kit. I just got mine yesterday. I ordered it before all the hoopla about the wings started to appear on this list. I was really sweating it; not knowing what I would find when I opened the box. Yep, the wings are bent, but nothing like "pretzel" or "banana" shaped like I was expecting. I have to paw through the kit more to get a better impression of it, but it IS an AEG! -Rick- > Looks like Candice has a looksie at the Pretzel AEG: > http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/reviews/ww1/uhliraegpreview.htm > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:01:06 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: Allan, I understand your point of view of course but I would apreciate it by far more if you could get us rid of these damn m*****f*****g Chinese spammers and all the other idiots who misuse the list to spread their shit than rebuking us for every little thing that you believe it ran to much ot. IMO, a mailing list should allow posting messages only to registered users to prevent so called "guests" from spamming. But about the spammers you don't loose a word - you seemingly just accept them. Instead, you remind us on every occasion that we went to far. To me, that is a bit overdone in cases like the discussion about the movies, but if you could get us rid of the spammers, Allan, we had more bandwith for discussing and you would not need to watch over every transferred byte like a hen. best regards Gaston (who hates Spammers as much as Graffiti sprayers and Virus developers) www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Gaston, > > I let the thread ramble on for quite a while. This is a MODELING list. > Discussion of references is allowed when on-topic, but that > thread went way > beyond discussing movies that could be used for sources of information for > modeling particular subjects. > > If you're modeling and want to model the Dr-I from Waldo > Pepper, then go > ahead and discuss the movie as it pertains to modeling that subject. > Endless lists of movies we all would enjoy, while possibly of general > interest to us, are NOT the information this list was created for. > > Some may see this as a draconian approach, but with the volume > of messages > this list generates, I don't feel we can afford to drift far from our > charter subject. > > Allan > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:06:10 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: All Quiet on the Western Front Message-ID: > > One of the myriad of projects for dioramas I've tought of is to build that > scene of the book when all the friends play cards togheter > s-itting in those > empty margarine kegs! The scene where the wounded guy plays around with his wife under the blanket in the hopsital room while his comrades had discretely left the room is worth a box diorama :o). Or what about a diorama about the spanking of "Himmelreich"? Gasterix www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:14:44 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: Gaston: Please don't start off like this again. If you don't want to be on the list that's up to you but please cease making unwarranted criticisms. The list person has a real working job and has asked folks how they want to deal with this spam. It's just easier to let a bit pass through and not get worried. You absolutely must try to maintain on-topic discussions, especially when requested to do so - twice. This list is a resource, donated free from the University of New Hampshire. It is permitted to exist because it is supposed to be a discussion of World War One Modelling, which is supposed to have historical and academic value. Try to recognize that the list supplies you with a lot of pleasure and information (I assume) and is worth the tiny bit of Spam that comes through. There has to be a bigger problem in your life than the spam on this list. Michael >From: "Gaston Graf" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] RE: Movies >Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:02:42 -0500 (EST) > >Allan, > >I understand your point of view of course but I would apreciate it by far >more if you could get us rid of these damn m*****f*****g Chinese spammers >and all the other idiots who misuse the list to spread their shit than >rebuking us for every little thing that you believe it ran to much ot. > >IMO, a mailing list should allow posting messages only to registered users >to prevent so called "guests" from spamming. But about the spammers you >don't loose a word - you seemingly just accept them. Instead, you remind us >on every occasion that we went to far. To me, that is a bit overdone in >cases like the discussion about the movies, but if you could get us rid of >the spammers, Allan, we had more bandwith for discussing and you would not >need to watch over every transferred byte like a hen. > >best regards > >Gaston (who hates Spammers as much as Graffiti sprayers and Virus >developers) >www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > > > Gaston, > > > > I let the thread ramble on for quite a while. This is a MODELING >list. > > Discussion of references is allowed when on-topic, but that > > thread went way > > beyond discussing movies that could be used for sources of information >for > > modeling particular subjects. > > > > If you're modeling and want to model the Dr-I from Waldo > > Pepper, then go > > ahead and discuss the movie as it pertains to modeling that subject. > > Endless lists of movies we all would enjoy, while possibly of general > > interest to us, are NOT the information this list was created for. > > > > Some may see this as a draconian approach, but with the volume > > of messages > > this list generates, I don't feel we can afford to drift far from our > > charter subject. > > > > Allan > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:20:58 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Online Modeling Contest? Message-ID: Howdy gang! I have been thinking with MAtt(I know... watch out!!!) Anyhow, I have been running an online contest for the Roll Models site for a couple of weeks now. I thought I'd like to try one for the WWI group. The first reason for this is I thought it would be fun. The second is it would let ya'll show your work to a wide audience, since I would announce the model's posting on all the modeling newsgroups etc. Lastly, because I love WWI modeling and it's fun giving away prizes. Here is a short outline of the contest... One model per entrant, as many pictures as you like, the model MUST be OT, the winner will be by popular vote. I am thinking we can start the contest March 4th. That would give some of you a chance to finish some models up and take some pictures. THe contest would last a week. I'll need a little help with the prizes. What do you all want? A CSM Gotha or an AEG from Hi-Tech? Let me know so I can get this organised. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:31:53 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: All Quiet on the Western Front Message-ID: <00ab01c1b4d5$db0bc560$68ab72d4@FRITZweb> Gaston! Oh, not again, please. Cool down! Yours, Hans BTW: Himmelstoß, not Himmelreich ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:40:49 -0500 From: plesha3@comcast.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: <000b01c1b4d7$1aeea3e0$ae913c44@macmb101.mi.comcast.net> Amen! Later Tom Michael says: > Gaston: > > Please don't start off like this again. If you don't want to be on the list > that's up to you but please cease making unwarranted criticisms. The list > person has a real working job and has asked folks how they want to deal with > this spam. It's just easier to let a bit pass through and not get worried. > > You absolutely must try to maintain on-topic discussions, especially when > requested to do so - twice. This list is a resource, donated free from the > University of New Hampshire. It is permitted to exist because it is > supposed to be a discussion of World War One Modelling, which is supposed to > have historical and academic value. > > Try to recognize that the list supplies you with a lot of pleasure and > information (I assume) and is worth the tiny bit of Spam that comes through. > > There has to be a bigger problem in your life than the spam on this list. > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:46:42 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: > Please don't start off like this again. O-oh, I sure did not start with anything here. I wasn't even involved into the movies discussion. If you don't want to be > on the list > that's up to you but please cease making unwarranted criticisms. > The list > person has a real working job and has asked folks how they want > to deal with > this spam. It's just easier to let a bit pass through and not > get worried. As for the spam I handle it the same way than I handle any message that is off interest to me - I simply delete it. But what is really annoying me is to be rebuked like a little child on every possible occasion when a discussion occurs that might get a bit ot always with the reminder that ot discussions unnecessarily use up bandwith while in fact many others really misuse bandwith but nothing is said about it. There are the spammers but on the other hand there are also careless people who do not think before they send their stupid little "ooohs" and "aaahs" and "thanks" and so on, often including the whole lenghty text of a message they replied to - THAT is misusing of bandwith, but a discussion that makes sense sure isn't. So what? > > You absolutely must try to maintain on-topic discussions, especially when > requested to do so - twice. This list is a resource, donated > free from the > University of New Hampshire. It is permitted to exist because it is > supposed to be a discussion of World War One Modelling, which is > supposed to > have historical and academic value. > I never had a problem with that, but where does OT starts, and where does it end? If a discussion about OT movies is considered to be ot, my recent posting of news about a planned Belgian motorway running accross the battlefield of Ypres sure is ot as well because it had nothing to do with modeling. And so spoken, ALL of my postings are ot because I have no time to do active modeling. All that I do is discussing with you people, adding some news about things that I believe might be of interest to all. Until now I believed at least the biggest share on this list liked the information that I provided. But when I think it over, well then this list is probably the wrong place for me because I have nothing much OT to add. There was a recent discussion about reshaping bent brass parts and "Bingo!" it did not take long until the reminder came in that this is a modeling list, not a metallugist list. But sometimes one needs to write a lot of additionally explanations to make things understandable to people who do not have the knowledge. It is again the question where does OT start and where does it end? > Try to recognize that the list supplies you with a lot of pleasure and > information (I assume) and is worth the tiny bit of Spam that > comes through. Tiny bit of spam you call it??? There are more and more of such messages coming in. Since I had joined this list, there was such messages appearing only occasionally so I did not care about it, but since a certain time there are more and more. First it was only a few Chinese or Taiwanese who wanted to sell stuff, but now I receive also messages of so called companies that promise you to get you dept free soon, or even porn ads. I should count them and record how many of such messages arrive per month. Guess you would be surprised. > > There has to be a bigger problem in your life than the spam on this list. I can assure you there is no big problem in my life except but the (IMO) unfair threatment of list members who just want to discuss while nothing is said about the real problems. Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:51:46 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: All Quiet on the Western Front Message-ID: OK OK OK - I give it up! over and out Gaston > > > Gaston! Oh, not again, please. Cool down! > > Yours, > Hans > > BTW: Himmelstoß, not Himmelreich > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:51:56 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: You see - THAT'S what I mean! Well done Tom! Unnecessary stupid comments that include the whole lenghty text of a message. If this is not misusing of bandwith, what it is then??? I usually remove the "original message" information as well as anything else that is not necessary except but for the points I want to reply to. But this time I the original message just to demonstrate how a message is blown. Gaston > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > plesha3@comcast.net > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:40 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Movies > > > Amen! > Later > Tom > > Michael says: > > > Gaston: > > > > Please don't start off like this again. If you don't want to be on the > list > > that's up to you but please cease making unwarranted > criticisms. The list > > person has a real working job and has asked folks how they want to deal > with > > this spam. It's just easier to let a bit pass through and not get > worried. > > > > You absolutely must try to maintain on-topic discussions, > especially when > > requested to do so - twice. This list is a resource, donated free from > the > > University of New Hampshire. It is permitted to exist because it is > > supposed to be a discussion of World War One Modelling, which > is supposed > to > > have historical and academic value. > > > > Try to recognize that the list supplies you with a lot of pleasure and > > information (I assume) and is worth the tiny bit of Spam that comes > through. > > > > There has to be a bigger problem in your life than the spam on > this list. > > > > Michael > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:59:54 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: <005d01c1b4d9$c7c405e0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> I need help as I am suffering from Roland burnout. I have had 3 goes at making the formers for the Rolands fuselage. You may of seen the pic I put in a post here with my Roland and the bulkheads I had made. The bulkheads are wrong as in the real plane they arent solid. I had made solid ones. I have a set of plans showing the cross section for the formers. I have used PhotoShop to make these in 1/72nd scale. Printed them out. I can cut them out put they look crap when I do. So then I tried using strip card on the inside of the fuselage where the formers go. But then I have the prob that I cant make the oval shape stay in the right curves for when I put the cross members in in to the curved former. I even tried with the printed out formers, covering it in Model Master Clear Parts Cement to make the paper abit firmer before i cut the former out. But still my cutting leaves alot to be desired. Or should I just use my solid bulkheads but put a bit of raised detail on them to make them look like formers? TIA all. In the mean time I started work on an EE Morane Saulnier 'I'. Little bit of cocpicy detail has gone in. So much easier than the Roland ;-) Resin engine i had lying around. New seat. Just have to make the control column and the rudder pedals.. Cheers Ross p.s. I hope this shows up as my ISP email server is down and i am sending it through my work one.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:15:11 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Nieuport Detail Colours? Message-ID: <000001c1b4db$e79abd80$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Matt answered Rob's question: > >Were cabane and L/G struts on the Nie. 11 painted aluminum or > light grey? > >was the tailskid pod black, or varnished wood? TIA, Rob > > Don't have my references with me, but look on the site at the > different modeler's works, especially Alberto's. You should find > your answers there. Or even look at the pictures on the site of the full size example in Le Bourget. Not sure how accurate the restoration is (I'm assuming pretty good, but I don't even know if this is a replica or restored original), but the cabanes and l/g struts are aluminium and the tailskid pod is varnished wood. That would be good enough for me under Dicta Ira. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:22:55 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Movies Message-ID: From: "Gaston Graf" >> >O-oh, I sure did not start with anything here. I wasn't even involved >into >the movies discussion [remainder snipped to save space and avoid > >dupication!] Gaston: You seem like a nice guy, if a little rambling. Please consider stopping comlaining about list administration and get on with enjoying the list. I could understand if you were paying for this service but it's free, and you're being ungrateful with your complaints about list spam. What do you expect the list administrator to do about it? He has a full time job and doesn't want to drive himself into the ground trying to filter out each little bit of spam while simulataneously maintaining easy subscritpion. As for being told what to do - well, it happens to us all. My wife and work supervisor are always trying to run my life. You are really fussing over nothing. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:25:10 -0500 From: plesha3@comcast.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: <000b01c1b4dd$4c99bb40$ae913c44@macmb101.mi.comcast.net> Ross- Have you tried using the "solid" bulhheads as a pattern and the trimming out the inside of them after making them and fitting? Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:27:03 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: >From: plesha3@comcast.net >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... >Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:24:18 -0500 (EST) > >Ross- >Have you tried using the "solid" bulhheads as a pattern and the trimming >out >the inside of them after making them and fitting? >Later >Tom > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:35:44 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: <004c01c1b4de$c70641e0$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> Ross Try taking a solid bulkhead, trace it on a piece of fairly thick card and cut out a hole exactly the size of the bulkhead. Lay the card with the hole flat. Use pieces of strip and trimmed card to build up the formers inside the hole in the card so the end product matches the outline of the bulkhead. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:44:08 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: <001f01c1b4df$f3e89fe0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> I have tried this. But I am using .005" Sheet Styrene and my cutting is not very good so that some is not straight. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... > Ross- > Have you tried using the "solid" bulhheads as a pattern and the trimming out > the inside of them after making them and fitting? > Later > Tom > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:52:46 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: vac-forming aluminum foil? Message-ID: <3C6AEE3D.C525CC8A@verizon.net> Aluminum is difficult to work with because it is not a "true" metal. It is what is known as a transition element having some of the properties of a metal and some of the properties of a non-metal. For instance aluminum has no modulus of elasticity, that is a load range where the metal will return to its original shape after being deflected by a load. Aluminum once deflected stays deflected and has a tendency to crack at stress points. Still it is strong, relatively tough, corrosion resistant (yes it does corrode) and above all light. Alvie Hans Trauner wrote: > As fas as I have worked with metals, I always had trouble with aluminium. > It's prone to tear. When brass is getting 'stiff' while beating/hammering it > can be 'glowed' to loose the tension, but this does not work with alu. Don't > ask why, I have no idea. > > But I can remember articles in german modelling press where automobile model > builders copied complete fenders with thick household aluminium foil. They > backed this foil with epoxy - ready. > Maybe this will worl also with thicker foil from the DIY store. But... a DH > 2 nose is really more 'bumpy' than a fender. In 1/48 or 1/72 I would cover > it with Bare Metal Foil and ironing out the wrinkles. > > Hans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:55:30 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Help Message-ID: <005501c1b4e1$89e4d080$bab58dd0@RDS> Can anyone tell me if Joystick kits are still avaible & if so where? Regards, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:57:33 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDBD5@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> SP says: > Try taking a solid bulkhead, trace it on a piece of fairly > thick card and > cut out a hole exactly the size of the bulkhead. Lay the card > with the hole > flat. Use pieces of strip and trimmed card to build up the > formers inside > the hole in the card so the end product matches the outline > of the bulkhead. Unless I've misunderstood, this is pretty well how I'd do it. However, I'd use the solid bulkheads to mark the outline on card of the full former, then carve the guts out of it *leaving* the external oval "ring" in place as part of the sheet. It's pretty easy to carve and sand back to leave an even amount between the hole and the drawn outline. Then, using strip add the crosspieces and braces with the card sheet taped onto a sheet of greaseproof sandwich paper or glass. Once done, sand overall with paper attached to a block and it'll look like one piece. At this point add any reinforcements - webs etc. that stand proud of the surface of the real thing, drill lightening holes, add boltheads etc. Finally start carving from the outside and work towards the line, fitting and sanding as the last little bit is removed. I did this on a very ot "Sopwith" to make formers a deal more complex than in a Roland (They needed lightening holes all around the outer ring making them even more fragile, and had to look perfect from both sides, so retaining the former in the card until ready to cut it out made each strong enough to sand etc without deformation - and there were about a dozen of them, all different) It worked fairly well I think, though you may be advised to ask Shane tY, Lorna or Volker who have seen the model in question Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:00:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Making formers in 1/72nd scale... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDBD6@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross says: > I have tried this. But I am using .005" Sheet Styrene and my > cutting is not > very good so that some is not straight. Yikes. Chuck the 5 thou - that's only 0.36" in real life. Do yourself a favour, use 10 thou and with the sanding necessary to blend the bracing it'll be a scale 1/2 inch thick when done. Shane (A cowardy custard who'd use 15 thou if doing it himself) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4174 **********************