WWI Digest 4162 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: SPAD A2/A4 A-model Le Rhone by Witold Kozakiewicz 2) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by Shane Weier 3) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by "Michael Kendix" 4) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by Shane Weier 5) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by Shane Weier 6) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by Shane Weier 7) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by "Ross Moorhouse" 8) Re: SPAD A2/A4 A-model Le Rhone by Todd Hayes 9) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 10) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by "Michael Kendix" 11) Voisin type 3 LAS and Farman MF.11/ 1/48 Drawings by Todd Hayes 12) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by "Ross Moorhouse" 13) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 14) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 15) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by Shane Weier 16) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by Shane Weier 17) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 18) Re: bumps on head by Shane Weier 19) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 20) RE: Never say Never by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 21) Re: ExtraTech PE for Roden Gotha IV/V by Shane Weier 22) RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... by KnnthS@aol.com 23) RE: Never say Never by KnnthS@aol.com 24) Now what do I charge WAS: Got a look..... by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:33:24 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SPAD A2/A4 A-model Le Rhone Message-ID: <3C66F534.4080100@bg.am.lodz.pl> Thanks for all comments, I have got drawings from Jan and Mike, that clears all my doubts and I can see that pe set is correct in this part. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:46:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB92@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> John, > More whine than Rothchild's cellar.... LOL Just mildly amused at the variation in opinion on this kit. Incidentally, I was not one of those whining about the kit - I prefer to reserve my opinion until I've seen it. FWIW Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. 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Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:50:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB93@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross, > Maybe you should buy a copy and see for yourself.. ;-) Man > thats alot of > AUDs for a 50 50 chance of getting a warp... Yes. More than I can afford at the moment, but I'll probably buy one eventually. I've got to wonder what the price will be here. On the basis of previous HiTech kits you'd guess about A$120, but the US$ price most quoted is SMO's which is usually on the high side. Maybe A$100-A$110 ? Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:52:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB94@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael, > In my view, far easier to do a > decent vac with add-ons. Sierra Scale beckons. I await with bated breath your conversion to 1/48 modelling ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:54:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB95@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael, > >(wondering *which* listees opinion I should have faith in ;-) > > All of us. Obviously there's a slight inconsistency in wing > shape:). Yes. Anyone taking notice of where the kits with unwarped wings were bought, versus those with warped wings? I have an idea - unsupported by careful research - that the majority of the straight wings were not bought direct from SMO Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:58:59 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <00be01c1b286$865eb500$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Is that with postage added in ??? Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:52 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... > Ross, > > > Maybe you should buy a copy and see for yourself.. ;-) Man > > thats alot of > > AUDs for a 50 50 chance of getting a warp... > > Yes. More than I can afford at the moment, but I'll probably buy one > eventually. > > I've got to wonder what the price will be here. On the basis of previous > HiTech kits you'd guess about A$120, but the US$ price most quoted is SMO's > which is usually on the high side. Maybe A$100-A$110 ? > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 > Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:03:25 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SPAD A2/A4 A-model Le Rhone Message-ID: <20020210230325.28827.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Steve- Is that real praise or sarcasm? Real praise, I hope. --- Steven Perry wrote: > > > > I'm convinced. When I do the Spin kits, I will > never place the parts on a > drawing. Ignorance is bliss, etc. ,etc. > > I did the Spin kit a while back and you'll have good > fun building it. > sp > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:13:08 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <3C66FE84.3DE5E019@tac.com.au> Ross Moorhouse wrote: > > Is that with postage added in ??? > > Ross Unlikely. I think Shane is talking about when it actually hits the country. As in is imported by some model shop or other who thinks they can sell enough of them. Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:08:15 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: >From: Shane Weier > > > In my view, far easier to do a > > decent vac with add-ons. Sierra Scale beckons. > >I await with bated breath your conversion to 1/48 modelling ;-) Have you keeled over yet? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:15:48 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Voisin type 3 LAS and Farman MF.11/ 1/48 Drawings Message-ID: <20020210231548.60957.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, I would like to know who produced the best 1/48 drawings of a Voisin LAS and a Farman MF.11? Are they still available? Also, what are some good references for these two aircraft? Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:21:21 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <00db01c1b289$a6c0c740$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> GASP.. I would never spend that much on a model.. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane & Lorna Jenkins" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... > Ross Moorhouse wrote: > > > > Is that with postage added in ??? > > > > Ross > > Unlikely. I think Shane is talking about when it actually hits the > country. As in is imported by some model shop or other who thinks they > can sell enough of them. > > Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:34:52 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <3C67039C.A90F7B33@tac.com.au> Ross Moorhouse wrote: > > GASP.. I would never spend that much on a model.. > > Ross Learn to scratchbuild ... it may take longer but you get more "hours of modelling pleasure" and it is certainly cheaper :-) Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:27:02 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <133.92d4a8c.29985bc6@aol.com> In a message dated Sun, 10 Feb 2002 5:16:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Shane Weier writes: > (wondering *which* listees opinion I should have faith in ;-) You mean you still do?!! Technical data, museum info and modeling technique advice certainly so. . . kit evaluations, except formal review in IM, etc. with photos, fall into the realm of what is the color of V***'s cowl. I misremember the quote, something like, what one person's food is another person's poison!? Mike Kavanaugh Again, a slow Sunday ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:26:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB96@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross, > Is that with postage added in ??? > What? The A$110 price? No, that's what I expect to pay at H&MC in Brisbane. You buy from SMO, it'll cost you A$125 give or take $1 Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:38:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB98@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross says (about my contention the kit will cost A$110): > > GASP.. I would never spend that much on a model.. > Happily for me that isn't true of everyone. Just sold a very ot model I built two years ago for A$200 :-( Car gets new water pump. Shane gets the shaft :-) Going to see a man tonight who wants me to build WW1 aircraft models for him for actual money. I have to tell him that I have other commitments to fulfill first, and that he may not live so long as to see a result unless he offers *vast* sums ...... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:45:33 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <135.9225174.2998601d@aol.com> In a message dated Sun, 10 Feb 2002 6:21:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Ross Moorhouse" writes: > GASP.. I would never spend that much on a model.. Obviously, you have not gotten into the spirit of this hobby. One of the basic tenets is to never say "never" when it comes to kit acquisitions. A "long-term doubtful" is acceptable, but such an absolute, never! Something in the nature of some James Bond movie theme, I think. ;-) Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:47:21 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: bumps on head Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB9A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Peter, > << Trans. I think you're a nutter! >> > > That's Ozzies for you. Direct ;) David spent part of the weekend swanning around in his tiny wood and fabric aeroplane with a bloke not used to flying such proper (tail dragging) aeroplanes. He has very little cause to accuse another of being a nutter ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:52:48 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: <59.174ef8ee.299861d1@aol.com> In a message dated Sun, 10 Feb 2002 6:40:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, Shane Weier writes: I have to tell him that I have other commitments to > fulfill first, and that he may not live so long as to see a result unless he > offers *vast* sums ...... Please define "vast sums". Once the idea of the requirement is accepted, only the price is negotiable.. . . or am I thinking of some other sort of thing? ;-) Mike Kavanaugh Still a slow Sunday here, but probably Monday in Australia! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:05:33 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Never say Never Message-ID: <3C670ACD.17A10763@tac.com.au> CoolSpadLuke@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated Sun, 10 Feb 2002 6:21:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Ross Moorhouse" writes: > > > GASP.. I would never spend that much on a model.. then Mike writes > Obviously, you have not gotten into the spirit of this hobby. One of the basic tenets is to never say "never" when it comes to kit acquisitions. A "long-term doubtful" is acceptable, but such an absolute, never! Something in the nature of some James Bond movie theme, I think. ;-) Well, I certainly wouldn't spend that amount of money on a Hi-Tech kit. However if I actually felt up to doing it justice, I would spend *more* on a Marco's Miniatures kit ... and of course books are a whole different ball of wax :-) Miss Moneypenny wanted a "diamond in a ring" from 007. I'd like a pile of them so I could afford my modelling habit Mistress Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:57:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: ExtraTech PE for Roden Gotha IV/V Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB9C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> SP > > As an aside, my first order from NKR. (odered 1/28 - sent > 1/30, arrived > in > > DC-USA on 2/7) > > Earl is Oz's answer to Speedy Gonzales. Now what does "Ariba! Andele! > Andele! sound like in an Aussie accent?.....Naw, I don't wanna know. > ...and of course, he didn't wait two days to send it since the order was actually sent 29 Jan *Aussie* time. One thing Earl really knows about is mail order service...... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:02:34 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Got a look at the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV....... Message-ID: Shane peers: << I prefer to reserve my opinion until I've seen it. >> as I understand it...you have a dilemmmmumnna. they do and do not warp. inside every box is a toy surprise. inside the one *you plunk down for* is your toy surprise. straight or warped. sounds to me like you personally careless about warp and are after other particulars in this kit.... fwiw Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 19:06:16 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Never say Never Message-ID: <18f.32551b5.299864f8@aol.com> The Good Mistress writes: << Miss Moneypenny wanted a "diamond in a ring" from 007. I'd like a pile of them so I could afford my modelling habit >> and Q was constantly saying: "DON'T TOUCH THAT, BOND!" Ken, up since last night watching Bond films on a slow Sunday ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:22:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Now what do I charge WAS: Got a look..... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB9D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mike says: > > I have to tell him that I have other commitments to > > fulfill first, and that he may not live so long as to see a > > result unless he offers *vast* sums ...... > > Please define "vast sums". Yeah, well, that's the question. It's one thing accepting a A$200 offer for an (ot alert!!) Spitfire built as a holiday OoB project, and another thing altogether tying your enjoyable hobby down as a money earning *job* > Once the idea of the requirement > is accepted, only the price is negotiable.. . . or am I > thinking of some other sort of thing? ;-) I've asked to meet him at his display cabinet. I want to see just what standard he expects and I anticipate being offered bugger all to build the things. The negotiation will be brief to the point of non existence if I'm expected to build to highest standard within anything even slightly recognisable as a close deadline. A year ago I turned down an offer of A$1500 for the Biff in a moment of madness. OTOH - if I needed another water pump....... > Still a slow Sunday here, but probably Monday in Australia! Indeed. Happily, a slow Monday at work. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4162 **********************