WWI Digest 4158 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: I just fixed the damn wings..... by "Brent Theobald" 2) Roden Albatros D1, Jadar Alb CV by Paul Thompson 3) RE: Roden Albatros D1 by Volker Haeusler 4) RE: Cylinders and fins by PetersList@aol.com 5) Re: ExtraTech PE for Roden Gotha IV/V by Witold Kozakiewicz 6) RE: Interesting Tidbits: Siemens-Halske and AEG by "Hans Trauner" 7) Re: A serial search...... by Shane Weier 8) Re: Roden Albatros D1, Jadar Alb CV by "Michael Kendix" 9) Re: Roden Albatros D1, Jadar Alb CV by "Matt Bittner" 10) MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. by "Michael Kendix" 11) Stuff by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. by "Matt Bittner" 13) Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. by "Michael Kendix" 15) Re: I trust you'll all forgive.... by "Thomas Solinski" 16) Re: ExtraTech PE for Roden Gotha IV/V by "Mike Maddeford" 17) Bad Karma Albatros by "Hans Trauner" 18) Back in business by "Pedro Soares" 19) 新年中大奖，全靠彩票龙 by sales@tongke.net 20) Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. by "Pedro Soares" 21) Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. by "Michael Kendix" 22) Re: Bad Karma Albatros by PetersList@aol.com 23) Re: Bad Karma Albatros by "Gaston Graf" 24) Re: Bad Karma Albatros by KnnthS@aol.com 25) Re: I trust you'll all forgive.... by KnnthS@aol.com 26) Re: Bad Karma Albatros by "Steven Perry" 27) Re: Bad Karma Albatros by "Pedro Soares" 28) Books for sale by "Bob Pearson" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 06:48:24 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I just fixed the damn wings..... Message-ID: Howdy! >There must be something wrong with me because I really didn't mind the >instructions that much either. Yup, I figure the DF will show me where everything goes. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Join the world抯 largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:07:57 +0100 From: Paul Thompson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roden Albatros D1, Jadar Alb CV Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020210084028.009f5ba0@pop.xs4all.nl> Hi all, If you've not noticed yet, there are ahots of the Albatros D1 sprues up on the Roden web site, and the kit has been moved from the pending list to the top of the news list (although not billed as released yet). ...in other news - I just got the Jadar Albatros CV in 1/72. This is a wonderful kit as far as I tell withot building it. Some heavy detail, but otherwise Ardpol quality resin with very thin trailing edges anf very good rib details. Like Ardpol they even have location pins/holes (that line up) on major components. A large PE sheet does a complete interior and loads of details for the outside. Includes a fine Parabellum with 3 ammo cans, harness and cushions for the seat and observers bench, that sort of stuff. Also a film with 3 instruments on for the PE control panel.Sorry to waste bandwidth with the description but I was blown away by this one (and although I prefer PC10 allied stuff, I confess to a weak spot for Albatrosses) Decal sheet is just national markings (no serials). The only downsides are a large number of pinholes (although none on my sample break the surface- I will puncture the tops of the larger ones near joints and flood with thin CA to fill, then leave for a very long time. There's one in the top wing that will need a plastic disc in to be sure) and the price. We've gone from guilders to euros here, and on my way to the checkout I forgot that, so the rather nice 39 guilders (just over 10 quid, sterling) turned out to be just over twice as much. But by that time I'd got too used to the idea that it was mine and couldn't put it back. I think it was worth the money anyway (especially when considered that the Ardpol DH9 gost me 95 guilders, or nearly 30 pounds - I now order their kits from Aeroclub since even with postage it works out half that price. I just finished the Omega Farman F30, Eduard Alb Dr1 and a Phoenix vac of the Albatros C1. Thanks to all who answered my queries on the former, in particular Steve Perry. nb Blue Max DH2, ot (just) Hit Kit Schreck,CM DH5 and Ardpol DH9. Oh, and I'm still working on the DH1a......... And Eric's Gotha. nu Glencoe and Blue Max Nie 28, then the big Revell Spad (as Baracca's mount). Chiz Paul T. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 12:23:42 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Roden Albatros D1 Message-ID: Just checked Paul磗 discovery: "If you've not noticed yet, there are ahots of the Albatros D1 sprues up on the Roden web site, and the kit has been moved from the pending list to the top of the news list (although not billed as released yet)." And those sprues look promising. The kit obvioulsy is the same as the later D II kit (you can see the different struts. Three center sections - an early one witout radiator, one with the German radiator, one for the AH radiator. Different cowling sections for the German and Austro-Hungarian versions as well. There磗 also a later style fin and rudder, so that this sprue might also come with the Albatros D III (for the OAW variant). However, I think one sprue is missing in the pic磗: There is no engine and no cockpit, and the side radiators are also missing. Oh yes: Interesting decal sheet, and the cover shows the Prinz Friedrich-Karl aircraft we are just discussing. *They* show it overall mid green, but with the wrong header tank (no criticism intended). On another matter, the next in the D VII series, a late Albtros build Fokker D VII. New fuselage and radiator, as well as Decals. The cover shows von Greim磗 nice D VII. The decals also have Rosenstein磗 and Frodien磗 Jasta 40 aircraft that are also on my sheet-. However, it should be noted that these aircraft both were *no* late series Albatros aircraft - the decals should be useful nonetheless.... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 05:26:50 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Cylinders and fins Message-ID: Does anyone know whether there might be washers and shims already available in suitable sizes? cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 13:35:39 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ExtraTech PE for Roden Gotha IV/V Message-ID: <3C65179B.5040705@bg.am.lodz.pl> John Huggins wrote: > Witold > Do you have access to the RHVP sets for the following kits? AD-4Q, > C-2 COD and the TA-7L. If so, what do they cost. > Sorry but in Poland we do not have Czech resin kits or pe sets (except Eduard, Aires, and MPM). That is very strange, but our hobby shops are not interested in suply RVHP, HR models, Alliance or any other. I have to go to Czech Rep. or ask firends to ger some of their stuff. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 14:44:44 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Interesting Tidbits: Siemens-Halske and AEG Message-ID: <003501c1b16f$ee97da60$d5a272d4@FRITZweb> Yes, so it is. But be aware. The Siemens aircraft are 'Siemens-Schuckert' , originally the Schuckert Werke in Nuernberg, taken over by Siemens. Engines are Siemens-Halske, Berlin, I guess. Due to time restrictions I was not able to give you a full research. But it's roughly comparable to 'Mercedes', 'Mercedes-Benz' , Daimler-Benz, Daimler-Chrysler. Messr. Benz and Daimler never met. As already told a hundred threads ago, , the Siemens-Schuckert works airfield of 1916/18 is now my bow shooting training ground.. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Interesting Tidbits: Siemens-Halske and AEG > Hi Gaston, > > That's pretty good for any company to have survived > for over 150 years including at least 5 major wars, a > revolution, a depression, and international > competition. Besides producing some of the most > interesting aircraft of WW1 (I'm getting the Spin > Models SSW DDr.I and can't wait to see it. If an > aircraft was ever designed to look like it should > crash instead of fly, the DDr.I is it!), my brother, > the audiophile, tells me Siemens still makes the best > vacuum tubes for stereo receivers. They are one of > the few companies that still make them. I've see > their ads on American TV. > > Todd > > --- Gaston Graf wrote: > > Still today, Siemens is one of the German top > > manufacturers of all sorts > > electric and electronic equippment. Since a lot of > > our kitchen equippment > > decided to die in the past months, we changed to > > Siemens and we are > > satisfied with their products. Only with their > > locomotives they still have > > some little technical problems. The choochoo-freaks > > among you might be > > interested to have a look at www.dispolok.com. While > > the engines are > > offering a great comfort to the driver and the > > mechanical parts are of first > > class quality, it are always little electronic > > problems that provoque > > failures. Apart of this, mobile phones made by > > Siemens are very popular too. > > > > Gaston > > www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > > > > > > While reading a history of Europe between > > 1815-1914, I > > > came across two familiar company names. The > > chapter > > > covered the industrialization of Germany after > > 1871. > > > Siemens-Halske was founded by Werner von Siemens > > in > > > 1847! I knew Siemens was an old German company > > > (electric railroads and trolley cars systems) but > > I > > > had no idea they went back that far. AEG was > > founded > > > in 1881, dealing in that new fangled product - > > > electric power. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 23:52:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: A serial search...... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB8C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Nigel says: > >So the serials at least are fictitious. > Of course they are, he was a fiction writer...... :) Correct, but also a nonfiction OT fighter pilot who flew Be2c's at one time (subject in one painting is a Be2c) and was posted to Hendon in 1920 (subject of the other is Snipes at the Hendon Air Pageant) But.....he probably picked numbers out of his head. After all, what sort of no life loonies eighty years later would *care* ? Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 15:11:00 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Albatros D1, Jadar Alb CV Message-ID: >From: Paul Thompson > >I just finished the Omega Farman F30, Eduard Alb Dr1 and a Phoenix >vac >of the Albatros C1. Sounds like you've been busy. I am most interested in your description of the Farman kit and how it went. Did you replace all the resin struts etc? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:32:04 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Roden Albatros D1, Jadar Alb CV Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 03:09:58 -0500 (EST), Paul Thompson wrote: > I just finished the Omega Farman F30, Eduard Alb Dr1 and a Phoenix vac of > the Albatros C1. Thanks to all who answered my queries on the former, in > particular Steve Perry. Okay, now how about some photos? Especially of that Farman. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 15:46:45 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. Message-ID: >From: "Ross Moorhouse" > > >Also for Neil if you are reading this. When we all get together watch >out >for the PINCH.. Mistress L was in fine form today with the PINCH.. >Its >hard to sit down now. ;-) Ross: Yet another reason to visit Australia! On a more relevant topic. I was most impressed by the MAC Fokker D.VII on Brent's Roll Model's site. I'm not complaining about the other manufacturers' efforts (Roden, Revell etc.) but it seems to me that despite the higher price, you get a decent deal with the MAC. The photoetch seems OK for the frame etc and the molding looks a bit cleaner than the competitors'. Also, the decals look decent and they give you lozenge rib tapes (how humane). The issue of whether 4-colour lozenge goes with the Albatros Works version is still a question REQUIRING AN ANSWER PLEASE:) - I do not have any of the Datfiles for the D.VII. It's my observation that MAC kits have progressed to the point where they are almost at the Eduard/Hasegawa level. Yes, I think Eduard's D.V's are as good as the 3 Hasegawa kits I've built (Ki-44, Ki-61, A6M2 Type 21) and the MAC Ph鰊ix DI and D.II are close. No locating pins and a bit more flash (hardly any though). So, given there is less need for aftermarket photetch with the MAC kits, they aren't that much more expensive. Michael _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:55:46 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Stuff Message-ID: My condolonces to those in the UK. For those who haven't heard, Princess Margaret passed away this morning. For those looking over the Roden site, be sure to check out the photogallery. New images include a Soviet D.VII and the PKZ-2. Neat! FWIW, from the few photos I have seen of the Soviet squadron that flew the D.VIIs, Roden has the rudder markings right, while Blue Rider - I don't think - does. A couple of photos definitely shows what appear to be a bunch of grapes, which Roden has captured. There is one photo (that shows Kozhevnikov's machine) where it's extremely difficult to tell the grape "demarcation". And, for those curious, I'm still researching Kozhevnikov, but it's difficult finding information. Has anyone found anything broken on the new IM stuff I uploaded last night? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 10:00:25 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:47:24 -0500 (EST), Michael Kendix wrote: > On a more relevant topic. I was most impressed by the MAC Fokker D.VII on > Brent's Roll Model's site. I'm not complaining about the other > manufacturers' efforts (Roden, Revell etc.) but it seems to me that despite > the higher price, you get a decent deal with the MAC. The photoetch seems > OK for the frame etc and the molding looks a bit cleaner than the > competitors'. Also, the decals look decent and they give you lozenge rib > tapes (how humane). The issue of whether 4-colour lozenge goes with the > Albatros Works version is still a question REQUIRING AN ANSWER PLEASE:) - I > do not have any of the Datfiles for the D.VII. A quote from Volker's awesome Jasta 40 sheet: "it should be noted that in spite of claims to the contrary, a number of early Albatros build D.VII's used 5 color lozenge". I think it's great when we can quote between list members. ;-) I also think that if you haven't picked up Volker's J40 sheet you're missing out on awesome decals and an extremely well research area. If you're used to the level of research Dr. Merril puts into his A/G sheets, then you'll be doubly impresses with Volker's. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 10:08:13 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:59:36 -0500 (EST), Matt Bittner wrote: > A quote from Volker's awesome Jasta 40 sheet: "it should be noted > that in spite of claims to the contrary, a number of early > Albatros build D.VII's used 5 color lozenge". Gee, what a dink. So yes, although five color was used, it appears the majority of Albatros-built D.VIIs used four color. One of these days, I'll get a new brain... :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 16:13:48 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. Message-ID: >From: "Matt Bittner" > > > A quote from Volker's awesome Jasta 40 sheet: "it should be noted > > that in spite of claims to the contrary, a number of early > > Albatros build D.VII's used 5 color lozenge". > >Gee, what a dink. So yes, although five color was used, it >appears the majority of Albatros-built D.VIIs used four color. > >One of these days, I'll get a new brain... :-) I was wondering about that - sort of went off track there:)! So, it appears MAC has it down right. Good. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world抯 largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:36:47 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: I trust you'll all forgive.... Message-ID: <00a801c1b187$f7bdd8c0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> Actually Robert I think the appropriate shout this year is To the rest of the world "Welcome to the USA!" Let's have fun playing in the snow may each of you have fun playing to win! good luck and safety to all Tom S ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert owens" Subject: [WWI] I trust you'll all forgive.... > > an expression of nationalistic pride.... GO USA!!!!! > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 11:27:50 -0500 From: "Mike Maddeford" To: Subject: Re: ExtraTech PE for Roden Gotha IV/V Message-ID: <003001c1b186$b7c72420$f1b2fea9@pentium> Hello Witold Kozakiewicz. I see you from Poland. How far are you from Cracow ? Have you been to the museum there ? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 18:07:46 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Bad Karma Albatros Message-ID: <000901c1b18c$4b96db00$5ba072d4@FRITZweb> Listees, my bad Karma Albatros has taken his toll again. After finger-printing, too-large-decals, not-oversprayed-leading-edges, odd-problems-during-spray-job and CA-cracking-white-spirit-washing I had the 'marriage' the night before. This means the upper wing was clued on struts etc. The thing was complete, sans rigging. Ha! I was proud. Now, after over 24 hours drying time I started to rig it. I wrapped the fuselage with kitchen dowel to avoid any finger-printing-adventure. For a short moment I hold it on the top wing through this process. Yes, you guess it. Luckily the struts remains unbroken. The undercarriage lost the axle, but it can be repaired. Prop and guns came loose, but can be fixed again. Some small paint jobs will be necessary, but nothing real serious. But, really, when the fuselage/ lowerwing unit fell away from my fingers and banged on the desk, I was nearly to weep. I love my hobby. It's so relaxing! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:14:28 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Back in business Message-ID: <001301c1b18d$3b91cac0$d87116d5@netcabo.pt> Good People, I managed to fix my computer. So everything's back to normal again. 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-- ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C18194.8891E450-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:34:14 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. Message-ID: <005301c1b18f$fe48ad20$d87116d5@netcabo.pt> > On a more relevant topic. I was most impressed by the MAC Fokker D.VII on > Brent's Roll Model's site. Micahel Searched Roll Models site all over and coudn't find it. Could you point me to it? Thanks Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 17:47:10 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: MAC Fokker D.VII reaction/ was: OT seen at todays APMA meeting. Message-ID: >From: "Pedro Soares" >Searched Roll Models site all over and coudn't find it. Could you >point me >to it? > http://www.rollmodels.net/mac.htm _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:01:49 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bad Karma Albatros Message-ID: Hans, I don't know whether it's a good idea to ask you for pics of this one when it's finished. It will probably turn the film black. Check with your Feng Shui advisor that the model board is properly aligned. If all else fails have the model excorcised. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:46:08 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: Bad Karma Albatros Message-ID: > If > all else fails > have the model excorcised. That means to carefully put it on the floor and jump with two feet onto it until nothing is left of it anymore but its own silhouette embossed in the carpet or wood. In case you got tiles on the floor you must jump a bit harder to emboss it. Alternatively you can do what I did as I was a boy - put one of these medium size red fireworks crackers into the cockpit, light up its fuse and let it dive down from the 3rd floor of a building. Additionally you can apply some patches of glue to the cowling and light it up too so it will go down in flames like a "real" fighter. The 1/72 Me109 from Matchbox that I excorcised that way as a 13 year old had a beautiful last flight. Right after the impact in the snow it exploded. And if you don't like to play with fire you can always shoot it up with an airgun or with your bow ;o). have fun Gasterix www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:51:27 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bad Karma Albatros Message-ID: <4f.185b4835.2996c9af@aol.com> Hans: << I love my hobby. It's so relaxing! >> This is more enjoyable than actual history, which, come to think, it is. Laughing with you- Ken -somehow, I think this must have happened all the time with real period airframes. Hopefully, not in-flight, such as poor Herr Gontermann... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:53:15 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I trust you'll all forgive.... Message-ID: <114.c2b80d8.2996ca1b@aol.com> Tom S sez: << "Welcome to the USA!" >> I'd give three cheers on that one. Much better. "Hooray for everyone" is a bit over-the-top.... A good host is a good host. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 14:22:51 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Bad Karma Albatros Message-ID: <002101c1b19f$2afc9fc0$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > > If > > all else fails > > have the model excorcised. > > That means to carefully put it on the floor and jump with two feet onto it > until nothing is left of it anymore but its own silhouette embossed in the > carpet or wood. I got frusterated with an ot Hustler-thingie at age 9 when the half a tube of cement I had used on the spindly U/C legs melted them and it kept kneeling down. I "ORDERED" it to assemble itself by the count of 10. It didn't, so I threw it into the wall. It was a pretty robust kit, except for the U/C, and not much damage resulted. Then I jumped on it ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:10:21 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Bad Karma Albatros Message-ID: <004b01c1b1a5$cd304f20$d87116d5@netcabo.pt> .> > I love my hobby. It's so relaxing! > > Hans > > Absolutely, Hans. Keep up the spirit. You're NOT alone. :-) P.S. When You eventualy finish it It'll taste as good as vintage Port Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 12:44:10 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Books for sale Message-ID: <101328762201@smtp.vphos.net> For the books I am just going to say it is a flat $25 USD for each one. .. many cost far more than that, some may have been less .. all are hardcover unless stated otherwise. to this list I have a first edition of Diary of an Unknown Airman with the colour plates. .. this is $100 if anyone wants it Wings of War: Stark 1972 Red Knight of Germany: Gibbons 1933 Doubledecker C666: Heydemarck 193x Max Immelmann 193x German Warbirds: Vigilant 1933 An Airman Remembers: Schroder Ace of the Iron Cross: Udet Flying Dutchman: Fokker Heroes of the Sunlit Sky Fighting Airman: Biddle Flight into Hell: Parsons Wings Over France: Hartney Fighting the Flying Circus: Rickenbacker Guynemer, Knight of the Air: Bordeaux 1918 Ace of Aces: Fonck With the Earth Beneath: Kingsford 1936 Days on the Wing: Coppens (dated xmas 1939) An Airmans Outting: Contact (Alan Bott) 1917 The RFC, a History : Norris 1965 Fall of an Eagle - Udet: Van Ishoven 1977 Germany's Last Knight of the Air: Degelow 1979 Albert Ball VC: Bowyer The Fledgling: Whitehouse Fighter Pilot: McScotch Sagittarius Rising: LEwis Flying Fury: McCudden 193x Sailor in the Air: Bell-Davies, VC Naval Eight: Johnston King of the Air Fighters: Jones The Spider Web: Hallam No Parachute: Lee Flying Minnows: 'Roger Vee' Recollections of an Airman: Strange Into the Blue: MacMillan Offensive Patrol: MacMillan Wings over the Somme: Lewis Years of Combat: Douglas Air of Battle: Fry Brief Glory - APF Rhys Davids: Revell Night Raiders of the Air: Kingsford Darkness Shall Cover Me: Wynn Courage of the Early Morning: Bishop Winged Warfare: Bishop Billy Bishop- Canadian Hero: McCaffrey. . this one is only worth $10 An Airfighter's Scrapbook: Jones (softcover) Captain Albert Ball VC, DSO: Kiernan Aeroplanes and Flyers of the First WW: Phelan Illustrated History of WWI in the Air: Ulanoff PROFILE PUBLICATIONS. . I paid $6 each for these ($252), but I will sell the works for a flat $200 #1 SE5a: J M Bruce 1971 Blue #5 Vickers F.B.27 Vimy: J M Bruce 1965/1971 #9 Albatros D.V: Peter Gray 1965 #13 Sopwith Pup: J M Bruce 1965 #17 SPAD XIII C.1: C F Andrews 1971 Blue #21 Bristol F2b Fighter: J M Bruce 1971 Blue #25 Fokker D.VII: #31 Sopwith F.1 Camel: J M Bruce 1965 #38 Fokker Monoplanes: J M Bruce 1965 #43 Pfalz D.III: Peter L Gray 1965 #49 Nieuport 17: C F Andrews 1971 Blue #50 Sopwith 7F.1 Snipe: J M Bruce 1965 #55 Fokker Dr.I: J M Bruce 1965 #61 Ansaldo SVA Scouts: Gianni Cattaneo 1966 #62 deHavillland DH 9: J M Bruce 1965 #67 Fokker D.VIII: J M Bruce 1966 #68 Thomas Morse Scouts: Frank Strnad 1966 #73 Sopwith Triplane: J M Bruce 1966 #74 Short 184: J M Bruce 1966 #79 Nieuport N.28C-1: Peter M Bowers 1966 #85 RE8: J M Bruce 1966 #86 Siemens-Schuckert D.III/IV: Peter L Gray 1966 #97 American DH4: Peter M Bowers 1966 #103 SE5: J M Bruce 1966 #109 Hanriot HD.1: J M Bruce 1966 #115 Gotha G.I-G.V: Peter M Grosz 1966 #121 Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter: J M Bruce 1966 #127 Albatros D.I-D.III: Peter L Gray 1966 #133 BE2, 2a, 2b: J M Bruce 1966 #139 Bristol Scout: J M Bruce 1967 #145 deHavilland DH 10: J M Bruce 1967 #151 O. Aviatik (Berg)D.I: George Haddow 1967 #157 Breguet Br14: J M Bruce/Jean Noel 1967 #163 Roland C.II: Peter M Grosz 1967 #169 Sopwith 5F.1 Dolphin: J M Bruce 1967 #175 Ph鰊ix Scouts: George Haddow 1967 #181 deHavilland DH5: J M Bruce 1967 #187 Junkers Monoplanes: Hugh W Cowin 1967 #193 Bristol M1a-d: J M Bruce 1967 #199 Pfalz D.XII: Peter M Grosz 1967 #200 Martinsyde Elephant: J M Bruce 1967 #237 Bristol F2b 1918-1932: Chaz Bowyer 1972 Blue Regards, Bob Pearson bpearson@kaien.net ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4158 **********************