WWI Digest 4141 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Obukhov was: Multi-things by Jan Vihonen 2) Re: WG vs HG by "Brent Theobald" 3) RE: More updates (Andreas Martin's models) by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 4) Re: IM Article Question by Mark Miller 5) Re: WWI Games by "Lee M." 6) Re: WWI Games by "Lee M." 7) Re: IM Article Question by Allan Wright 8) drill bits by "Tom Plesha" 9) Re: Sorry for the ot by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 10) Re: drill bits by "Brent Theobald" 11) Re: 1/24 Gotha Plans by "Thomas Solinski" 12) Re: vector graphics by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 13) Re: Nieuport 27 by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 14) RE: IM Article Question by Shane Weier 15) Re: Nieuport 27 by "robert owens" 16) Russian wording: by Robert Horton 17) RE: Yet another paint question by Shane Weier 18) RE: 1/24 Gotha Plans by Shane Weier 19) RE: Yet another paint question by GRBroman@aol.com 20) Hi-Tech AEG G.IV by Todd Hayes 21) Back Again...Also NW Hobby Exposition by C.O.Goebel@att.net 22) Re: HOBEY BAKER/ ELLIOT SPRINGS by "ibs4421" 23) Re: 1/24 Gotha Plans by "Steven Perry" 24) RE: Yet another paint question by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 19:57:48 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Obukhov was: Multi-things Message-ID: <3C5ECB9C.5A5CF51@helsinki.fi> Bob, > lastly, does anyone on the list have access to anyone that can translate > Russian? I have a two letter phrase from the breech of what I believe > is a Model 1891 Russian cannon...would like to know what the engraved > inscription says... ObyXOB 3ABOnpA in the inscription in the > last word the "n" and "p" are more or less reversed from the english > letter form ...in other words the n faces left and the round part of the > p is facing left.....I am making an assumption that this is indeed > Russian...I have a Greek friend that assures me it isn't Greek.....TIA > folks....best to all....Go Rams......Bob Horton, Not that I know Russian any better than you but I'm sure that the first word is Obukhov. That's one of the most famous pre-revolution steel works in Russia. Famous for it's cannons. The second word. I cannot figure out that n and p thing, but otherwise it resembles word zavod, or factory. Which makes sense. HTH, Jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 18:05:54 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WG vs HG Message-ID: Howdy! >Does anyone know the story of how Willi Gabriel got on the wrong side >of >Herr Georing? I think it all began at dinner one night... Hermann politely inquired "Does anyone want the last schnitzle?" When Willi responded "Yeah! I'll take it!" and proceeded to swipe the morsel from the tray and wolf it down in front of the disappointed Hermann. Georing never forgave Willi his rudeness. :-) Apparently Willi would tease Hermann about his frilly undergarments too. :-) Later! Brent (who's going to play hookey in order to put another coat of paint on the Halberstadt D.II.) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 13:26:36 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: RE: More updates (Andreas Martin's models) Message-ID: In a message dated Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:21:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Harris, Mack" writes: > Any references that you know of on the triplane? > thanks > Mack I've been digging for reference materials on the Avro Triplane for several months. The replica in the Shuttleworth collection is the aircraft flown by "Sir Percy", the villain played by Terry-Thomas in the "Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines." (VHS available from Amazon). WWI AERO sells Air Commodore Allen Wheeler's "Building Aeroplanes for "Those Magnificent Men" which records the construction and filming of the aircraft in the movie and "The Brooklands Story", A.V.Roe & Company 1910/11, Ian Turney-White built a 50% scale flying model patterned after the Shuttleworth aircraft. Click on "featured aircraft" at: http://members.lycos.co.uk/LMASite/ There's a good in-flight photo at: http://www.thestewarts.greatxcape.net/pages/avro_triplane_9.htm Another static display photo is at: http://home.clara.net/kpanter/pictures.htm The best references I have found to date are two sets of "walk around" type color photos taken of the Shuttleworth replica. The Shuttleworth museum referred me to Mr. David Boddington, "Ivycrest" The Avenue, Wellingborough, Northants, NN8 4ET, UK. I purchased 30 6x4 and 7x5-inch photos from him. The second set of photos was purchased from Bob Banka's Aircraft Documentation and Resource Guide. Find at: http://www.bobsairdoc.com/ For dimensions, I'm using about four pages of materials covering the four triplane models from a book on Avro aircraft. Don't know the title. I believe I got it from Hans Trauner. If it wasn't Hans, please forgive me whoever you are. I also got some kit plans from Tom Solinski which I enlarged to 1:12 but I don't think they will be of much use on the Inpact kit. :-) Sorry about the length of this response. . . proves you should be careful about what you ask for. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 2002 11:31:58 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: IM Article Question Message-ID: <20020204193158.2810.cpmta@c016.snv.cp.net> On Mon, 04 February 2002, tbittners@sprintmail.com wrote: > For example, that leaves out - for the time being only - Robert Karr's superb O-400, Shane's awesome Biff, etc. Does this hold well with the rest of the list? Matt Bittner OK guys consider this an official complaint I agree that you should back-burner the articles on out of production kits. But IMHO the scratch build articles should be high on the priority list because they contain the most useful and globally applicable information. Outlining methods and techniques which everybody could use regardless of what particular model (or scale) they happen to be working on. And yes I'm willing to help - if i can I'm not exactly an html wizard, but I'll give it a try Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 13:40:46 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: <3C5EE3BE.E9CB90DF@x25.net> All I really need to do is get the Graphics card and a full copy of Win 98 or 98 SE. My present MB/Computer will handle 98 and up and it has ME installed from the full disk program. Maybe one of my aquaintances has full 98 on CD. My computer started out as a Win 98, top of the line, computer. With an Intel Celeron 400 CPU. It will handle a Pentium III 800. It already has 378 mb of Ram and 2 Firewire 40Gig HDs plus the small one that is the Start up HD with 10Gigs. Two 5 Gig partitions. (I also have a 60 Gig HD that has never been installed. It can be used with a Firewire converter) I also have on hand two 30 Gig/7200 Ultra DMA that I am not using at present. (I got them and the 60 for my next computer.) (I have been saving for a new 1.6 Athlon and new M/B set up.New Case and all.) So you see it is not a matter of money. I just did not know why the RB 3D would not work well. The original RB worked great. Now I know. It is the Glide feature that was messing with my head. I thought it was compatible with what I had. My RB 3D box says it was Glide compatible, but, it does not say it was required... I have a Logitech and I did not get the "feedback type", I di mot care for that feeling. I just put in better springs and it feels more like air pressure on the stick and I like that. It is just a little harder to move than it was before. The rudder moves about right with the control but it is a bit odd to do it by hand. I have both of the newer Combat Flight sims but I just do not like Microsoft. They seem to be "twitchy" and move in jerks sometimes instead of real smooth. I was never a "jerky" pilot it is to hard on the plane. (I have had two (real) emergency landings and even then it was smooth and slick all the way. One was in an Alfalfa field and the other on a sandy beach along the shore of Lake Michigan.) I have available (never used) a Visiontek Geforce 2MX400 w/64MB AGP. It will support Open GL ICD, Direct X, but I never asked about Glide. It will work with my present TYAN Tsunami M/board. So I do thank you for the assist. It may be a while before I get that up and running but I wll check on a VooDoo 3-5000 card starting now.. Lee M. Gaston Graf wrote: > > Lee, > > if it were only to play RBII with, and maybe the MS Combat Flightsims I > would suggest you to spend little money and build you a Win98 computer based > on a 3Dfx VooDoo Graphics board. Reason: RB3D is one of the very few games > that only support Glide. It won't run in OpenGL, and looks ugly in D3D while > it looks brilliant in Glide. Take a mainboard based on an Intel BX chipset > with a PIII 800 and 256Mb RAM plus a VooDoo3-5000 or at least a > VooDoo3-2000. Make sure the power supply is sufficient with at least 300W. > For HD I would install 2 20GB or one 40GB but you must be sure the mainboard > BIOS will support HDs bigger than 30GB. > > 3Dfx was swallowed by Nvidia so there are no new drivers developed for the > VooDoo chipsets but the latest available drivers work perfectly with Win98 > and there are always single programmers who keep the drivers updated to let > them run even under WinXP. I had recently changed my old VooDoo3-2000 16Mb > card for an ASUS GeForce2 Ti with 64Mb DDR because I had to many problems in > other games with my old card, but for the sims it was perfect. > > Make sure your graphics card comes with a cooler fan. In case there is none > you can easily srew on a 486CPU cooler that is available for a few bucks > only. 3Dfx cards can also be tweaked for a bit of extra power but need good > cooling in that case. > > Ah yes, the most important part for playing sims are joysticks. Get you an > MS SideWinder Force Feedback stick. The rudder function is build in the > handle so you won't need to buy expensive rudder pedals. To use the rudder > on the stick, twist the handle. And the Force Feedback is really a wonderful > invention that gives you a feeling for the crate you are flying plus the > vibrations caused by the guns are also fine. > > Tally-Ho! > > Gaston > www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Gaston and all, > > > > Not OT but tilted that way. > > > > The WW I computer flying is far more fun than the super speed demons fom > > most of the new Flight Sims. Even a lot of the WW II is more real fun. > > > > It will be a while before I am on with 2000 Pro. I am collecting > > hardware and stuff to construct a new computer. I need to see if all > > the stuff I have learned in the past couple of years was really worth > > while. > > > > I certainly hope RB II 3D will operate on the newer one. The one I am > > using now went "argumentative" as soon as it was built, (using Win 98), > > and I have never found out what was wrong with the thing. I have Win Me > > on it now and nothing changed for the better, except, it has not gotten > > nasty about having four hard drives attached. > > > > I use a lot of USB and Firewire. Extra HDs are FW and I have two > > removable floppies on USB and my second CD R/RW. > > > > So if there are any suggestions about the planned set up. > > > > I need to know. > > > > Lee M. > > New Braunfels, Tx > > > > Gaston Graf wrote: > > > > > > I guess if it runs on XP it will also run on 2000 because XP is > > based on the > > > core of 2000. But that's no guarantee indeed. > > > MS should have a compatibility list, but I have no idea where > > to find it. > > > > > > Get that thing running so we can meet for a dogfight, and > > exciting chases > > > under bridges, through valleys and over hills ;o). > > > > > > Gaston > > > www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > > > > > > > Question for anyone. Does anyone know how RB II 3D will run > > on Win 2000 > > > > Pro. I plan on that instead of XP and I will be changing to a (Fresh) > > > > HD from Me. > > > > > > > > Lee M. > > > > New Braunfels, Tx > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 13:58:31 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: <3C5EE7E7.EBF1E6CC@x25.net> Sorry about that one it was inteded to go personally to Gaston only. "Lee M." wrote: > All I really need to do is get the Graphics card and a full copy of Win 98 or 98 SE. My present MB/Computer will handle 98 and up and it has ME installed from the full disk program. Maybe one of my aquaintances has full 98 on CD. Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:56:18 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: IM Article Question Message-ID: <200202041956.OAA56837@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Matt, If you're able to give Mark the information on doing the IP uploads I'm willing to give him an FTP account as IM Liason Officer. Al > > On Mon, 04 February 2002, tbittners@sprintmail.com wrote: > > > > For example, that leaves out - for the time being only - Robert Karr's superb O-400, Shane's awesome Biff, etc. Does this hold well with the rest of the list? > Matt Bittner > > OK guys > consider this an official complaint > > I agree that you should back-burner the articles on out of production kits. > > But > IMHO the scratch build articles should be high on the priority list because they contain the most useful and globally applicable information. > Outlining methods and techniques which everybody could use regardless of what particular model (or scale) they happen to be working on. > > And yes > I'm willing to help - if i can > I'm not exactly an html wizard, but I'll give it a try > > Mark > > > > > > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:20:33 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: drill bits Message-ID: <000701c1adca$2a9b3ba0$ae913c44@macmb101.mi.comcast.net> Hi All- Just ordered a few tools from Model Expo. If you haven't noted, they have #61-#80 drill bits on sale at $2.00 for a pack of ten of each size. FWIW Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:23:15 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sorry for the ot Message-ID: <3C5F09D3.C59D9420@verizon.net> Congradulations John, It was a great game. By the way the decales came in the mail today. Beautiful. They are going to make for a great model. Alvie John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > It was bound to happen. I am a New Englander that has been waiting 28 yrs > to say this in public - We Won!! > > Sorry, > Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 22:47:36 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: drill bits Message-ID: Howdy Tom, Thanks for the tip! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:49:07 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: 1/24 Gotha Plans Message-ID: <00f201c1adce$2cdaf5a0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> > I found this on Ebay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1699589403 > > Does anyone on the list have a copy of this? I'd like to get one. Hey Brent Don't get too excited over the ebay deal, they can be bought NEW for 14.95 plus shipping from http://www.clevelandairline.com/ASP/PRODUCT.asp Notice they are available up to 1/4 scale or 234 inch wingspan, now THAT's a Gotha! Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 18:22:35 -0500 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: vector graphics Message-ID: <3C5F17BB.F82CC8E3@mars.ark.com> I just scan them in as a jpg. Just a couple of tricks - scan them fairly large (400dpi) and then reduce, and make sure the program you use can rotate the image so the final result is square. A good set of filters is invaluable as drawings rarely scan well without some adjustment. Mike F. PetersList@aol.com wrote: > > First, thanks again to all who responded to my plea for drawings of the > Deperdussin 1913 Schneider Cup monoplane. As well as drawings I got shedloads > of photos, mostly of related aircraft rather than my specific request but > extremely useful all the same. > > Three drawings are in circulation, each differing significantly from the > others and none wholly accurate. The most common of them is apparently the > least accurate and the best of them combines a substantially accurate > fuselage and floats with less accurate wings and tail. As my Gordon Bennett > racer drawing for the Sopwith cookup shows I am not the > worlds greatest draftsman, but I think I can put together a > reasonable GA drawing sufficient for modeling purposes and the 1913 > Deperdussin is in the works. > > I do have a vector graphics program,"Freehand 9", but it's workings are a > total mystery to me so I continue to plod on in pen and ink. This is > perfectly fine as my main aim is to build a model based on what I hope will > be a more accurate drawing (at least in terms of outline). But if I should > take leave of my senses and decide to publish it on the web I would like it > to look a little more snazzy. My question to the list vector graphics > whizz-kids is this; Is there any advantage in importing a pen and ink drawing > into a vector graphics program such as Freehand? If so, how the heck do I do > it? Or am I better off just scanning it in as a JPEG? > > cheers > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 18:25:18 -0500 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport 27 Message-ID: <3C5F185E.D10F6613@mars.ark.com> http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/GermanDWG_Nieuport27m.jpg Mike F. Diego Fernetti wrote: > > Can someone give me the dimensions of the Nieuport 27 (lenght and span) I > have some drawings I'd like to scale down correctly. > TIA! > D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:43:50 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: IM Article Question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB34@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt, > For example, that leaves out - for the time being only - > Robert Karr's superb O-400, Shane's awesome Biff, etc. Does > this hold well with the rest of the list? Keep in mind that > not only do I update the site, but I also would like to model as well. > > Would that offend the scratch builders? FWIW I don't give a rats. Yesterdays news. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 18:36:34 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport 27 Message-ID: Diego, I have an old article from Air Classics which gives Span: 26 feet 11&9/64 inches Length: 18 feet 10&5/32 inches for Nie. 24/27 Can't swear to accuracy of this, though. Alles Gute, Rob Owens _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 20:26:54 -0600 From: Robert Horton To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Russian wording: Message-ID: <3C5F42ED.4C79E6E8@netexpress.net> Hi Gang: Just a quick note to thank those that helped with the two Russian words that were troubling me....all thoughts were " on the same page," and much appreciated....usually when you run into "foreign language" terms on these guns, we chase down, we can figure out what is meant but this one really threw me and wasn't absolutely certain of country of origin....again, the help was greatly apprecoated...Bob Horton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:26:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Yet another paint question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB36@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Warren asks: > > How many on this list use a spray booth? How many, like a > > lot in the article, just use a spare room with the window(s) open? No spray booth. I spray outside, under the sky. If it's raining, I spray under the eaves of the garage. If it's a little windy, I don't wear a mask (tch, tch) > I have my own room, I use a gas-mask when spraying, then I leave the > room for a while, or I open the window. I can't open the window > during winter because my wife complains that the frost kills the > plants. My God! FROST! SEND SOME IMMEDIATELY! I'm at McArthur River Mine, a zinc/lead mine about 100km from the Gulf of Carpentaria (look at a map of Oz, follow the East coast up to the northern point (Cape York) and around to the South on the west side, the big "U" shaped piece of water you're in is the Gulf) Temperature here is - wait for it - 48C in the *shade* (at the Met station, confirmed) That's 118.5F folks....... Thank Fujitsu for airconditioners and DHC for the Dash-8 outbound. I spent last night in a room in the MGM Casino in Darwin, and fly back there at 8pm tonight. This place is near enough to hell, I won't be staying to sightsee ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:35:12 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: 1/24 Gotha Plans Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB37@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brent says: s on Ebay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1699589403 > > Does anyone on the list have a copy of this? I'd like to get one. > > Eric, do you want to release a resin version of this model? > The wingspan will be 38"!!! It will dwarf the 1/48 Staaken you are doing. Dwarf? Not by much, IIRC my 1/48 Staaken plans are nearly 36" across (and well hidden too - I don't want to see THAT look on my wife's face again any time soon. OTOH, wouldn't it be luvverleeee Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:38:00 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Yet another paint question Message-ID: <16d.8461733.29909f88@aol.com> --part1_16d.8461733.29909f88_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2002 5:49:00 AM Central Standard Time, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: > > How many on this list use a spray booth? How many, like a > > lot in the > > article, just use a spare room with the window(s) open? > > > I'm seriously wondering if Diego is opening the window when he sprays. ;) Glen --part1_16d.8461733.29909f88_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/4/2002 5:49:00 AM Central Standard Time, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes:


>    How many on this list use a spray booth?  How many, like a
> lot in the
> article, just use a spare room with the window(s) open?
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I'm seriously wondering if Diego is opening the window when he sprays. ;)
Glen --part1_16d.8461733.29909f88_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV Message-ID: <20020205025017.21604.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, How many of you that have bought the new AEG kit received one that has severely warped wing panels? In my kit, all of them are. The rib detail is heavy to say the least. Still, with some work, it has definite possibilities. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 02:51:43 +0000 From: C.O.Goebel@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Back Again...Also NW Hobby Exposition Message-ID: <20020205025143.CEHG5540.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Been keeping up with the posts the day after. Thought I'd re-up my subscription and read them the same day. A lot has happened in the last year. Second wife left last March after 18 years..pain lessens each day, especially when I'm able to go to the Northwest Hobby Exposition in Puyallup, WA this past weekend and buy whtever I wanted without the least bit of guilt! I met Lou Buffardi, who writes the model column for WWI Aero, and he had several of Copperstate's latest offerings up for grabs. I picked up the G.III & the Dolphin as well as several Datafiles to add to the ever increasing hoard. Was also able to drool over the built up quarter-scale WWI models over at the Proctor Booth. Someday I WILL build that Nie.28 I couldn't resist at the Expo Swap meet a couple of years back. OT aircraft entered for judging or display included a quarter scale Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, a Proctor Nie.28, and quarter scale Sommer monoplane 1912 being the standouts. All in all a great inspiration to get back to modeling and glad to be back! Thanks for all the great tips and advice served up daily by all of you contributing list members. Craig Goebel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:12:08 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: HOBEY BAKER/ ELLIOT SPRINGS Message-ID: <00cc01c1adf2$e6028420$9b3dfad1@dwfjv01> Also, there is a biography that the U. of > North Carolina Press put out, sorry, I don't remember title or author. but > it should be too hard to find. > hth > Mike Muth "Warbird: The Life and Times of Elliot White Springs" by Burke Davis, Univ. of North Carolina Press, c. 1987, ISBN0-8078-1752-X Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 22:10:47 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: 1/24 Gotha Plans Message-ID: <009101c1adf2$b5bdf2e0$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Don't get too excited over the ebay deal, they can be bought NEW for 14.95 > plus shipping from > > http://www.clevelandairline.com/ASP/PRODUCT.asp > > Notice they are available up to 1/4 scale or 234 inch wingspan, now THAT's a > Gotha! Browsing the old Cleveland plans, it's gonna take a lot of balsa dust to sop up all the drool. Somebody PLEASE tell me why one of those 1/4 scale working rotary engines could never be used to power a 1/4 scale DH.2. Some half convincing nonsense about scale sise and power to weight ratios would do. I simply MUST be disabused of this notion or my "When I win the Lottery" fantasys will dwell on this for the next 6 months. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:37:31 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Yet another paint question Message-ID: Shane says: >I'm at McArthur River Mine, 100km from the Gulf of >Carpentaria >Temperature here is - 48C in the *shade* Wot! - no luxurious swimmin'? - Croc's got you scared? >I spent last night in a room in the MGM Casino in Darwin, MGM Casino? - Next stop Monte Carlo perhaps - sounds rough up there! >This place is near enough to hell, I won't be staying to sightsee Wot about the world's largest stubby then? not exciting enough for you? - Better watch out Shane, they'll send you to Sydney next.... ;-) All the Best Neil E ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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