WWI Digest 4138 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II by Dennis Ugulano 2) Re: LtGen Frank Peterson USMC by "robert owens" 3) Re: bad news by "David Watts" 4) Re: HB C.I vac by "Matt Bittner" 5) Re: WWI Games by "Gaston Graf" 6) Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) by "Pedro Soares" 7) Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) by "Pedro Soares" 8) R: bad news by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 9) Re: bad news by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 10) RE: Compass Cutter and swivel blade refills by "Pedro N. Soares" 11) Re:bad news by "Diego Fernetti" 12) Re: WWI Games by "ibs4421" 13) ICMH : Breaks the Price Barrier HXTDLG by ICMH4126@eudoramail.com 14) Sorry for the ot by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 15) where the sprues grow and the styrene roams by "Diego Fernetti" 16) RE: where the sprues grow and the styrene roams by Crawford Neil 17) RE: where the sprues grow and the styrene roams by "Pedro N. Soares" 18) RE: Yet another paint question by Crawford Neil 19) re: where the sprues grow and the styrene roams by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) Re: LtGen Frank Peterson USMC by Balzer Mr Gregory P 21) RE: A rigging idea by KnnthS@aol.com 22) RE: A rigging idea by Crawford Neil 23) Re: Sorry for the ot by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:52:41 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II Message-ID: <200202032253_MC3-F074-5FB3@compuserve.com> Pedro, >> Anybody out there with more references on the HB CI UFAG than the FMP book? << I built the kit using Color Profiles of World War 1 Combat Planes by Apostolo and Begnozzi. There are no photos of the plane but there are two profiles of two different types of pulpits. And it appears that the gunner did go down through his pulpit because I don't know how the pilot got in the plane, much less the gunner. There were two versions. Br C.1 UFAG 64.01 had two windows in the pulpit. Br C.1 Phonix 26.17 had a different shape pulpit and the pilot had an experimental isenglass canopy. Neither version was developed. This was my third vac and I remember using the double thickness wings. Big mistake and I have never repeated it. I also remember it being a very difficult kit to build. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 01/12/2002 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 22:49:06 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: LtGen Frank Peterson USMC Message-ID: Mike, Ponyal, i spasiba Tovaritsch! (roger and thanks, Comrade!) Rob Owens _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:02:42 -0500 From: "David Watts" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: Most sincerest condolences and keep her best memories in mind as she is there with you through these memories. Best, Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 23:14:52 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: HB C.I vac Message-ID: I think I hit upon a gold mine reference for those wanting to do the HB C.I. OFH from Austria put out a book devoted to the HB C.I. While it only has four photos - none of the machine wanted - it does have a number of pen and ink drawings showing most of all the ones flown. Unfortunately meine Deutsch ist nicht so gut, so I can't translate it. LMK if this interests anyone building the kit. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:28:59 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: Lee, if it were only to play RBII with, and maybe the MS Combat Flightsims I would suggest you to spend little money and build you a Win98 computer based on a 3Dfx VooDoo Graphics board. Reason: RB3D is one of the very few games that only support Glide. It won't run in OpenGL, and looks ugly in D3D while it looks brilliant in Glide. Take a mainboard based on an Intel BX chipset with a PIII 800 and 256Mb RAM plus a VooDoo3-5000 or at least a VooDoo3-2000. Make sure the power supply is sufficient with at least 300W. For HD I would install 2 20GB or one 40GB but you must be sure the mainboard BIOS will support HDs bigger than 30GB. 3Dfx was swallowed by Nvidia so there are no new drivers developed for the VooDoo chipsets but the latest available drivers work perfectly with Win98 and there are always single programmers who keep the drivers updated to let them run even under WinXP. I had recently changed my old VooDoo3-2000 16Mb card for an ASUS GeForce2 Ti with 64Mb DDR because I had to many problems in other games with my old card, but for the sims it was perfect. Make sure your graphics card comes with a cooler fan. In case there is none you can easily srew on a 486CPU cooler that is available for a few bucks only. 3Dfx cards can also be tweaked for a bit of extra power but need good cooling in that case. Ah yes, the most important part for playing sims are joysticks. Get you an MS SideWinder Force Feedback stick. The rudder function is build in the handle so you won't need to buy expensive rudder pedals. To use the rudder on the stick, twist the handle. And the Force Feedback is really a wonderful invention that gives you a feeling for the crate you are flying plus the vibrations caused by the guns are also fine. Tally-Ho! Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > Gaston and all, > > Not OT but tilted that way. > > The WW I computer flying is far more fun than the super speed demons fom > most of the new Flight Sims. Even a lot of the WW II is more real fun. > > It will be a while before I am on with 2000 Pro. I am collecting > hardware and stuff to construct a new computer. I need to see if all > the stuff I have learned in the past couple of years was really worth > while. > > I certainly hope RB II 3D will operate on the newer one. The one I am > using now went "argumentative" as soon as it was built, (using Win 98), > and I have never found out what was wrong with the thing. I have Win Me > on it now and nothing changed for the better, except, it has not gotten > nasty about having four hard drives attached. > > I use a lot of USB and Firewire. Extra HDs are FW and I have two > removable floppies on USB and my second CD R/RW. > > So if there are any suggestions about the planned set up. > > I need to know. > > Lee M. > New Braunfels, Tx > > Gaston Graf wrote: > > > > I guess if it runs on XP it will also run on 2000 because XP is > based on the > > core of 2000. But that's no guarantee indeed. > > MS should have a compatibility list, but I have no idea where > to find it. > > > > Get that thing running so we can meet for a dogfight, and > exciting chases > > under bridges, through valleys and over hills ;o). > > > > Gaston > > www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > > > > Question for anyone. Does anyone know how RB II 3D will run > on Win 2000 > > > Pro. I plan on that instead of XP and I will be changing to a (Fresh) > > > HD from Me. > > > > > > Lee M. > > > New Braunfels, Tx > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:41:46 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) Message-ID: <000701c1ad4f$65e654e0$b17116d5@netcabo.pt> Thanks Tom. You can send them to pnsoares@netcabo.pt Regards Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Plesha To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:35 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) > Hi Pedro- > I do have a photo of 64.01 I'll scan for you. The color schemes for the C.I > appear to range from CDL wings with varnished fuselage to cammo. The photo > I'll scan for you it appears to be light grey or blue, there is a white > background for the crosses. The other C.I's are without the turret? with > the gunner/observer in the traditional position. > If you'll send me an e-mail off-list I'll start taking photo's and scans of > the things I have for you. > Later > Tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pedro Soares" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:56 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) > > > > Tom, > > > > In particular, can you see if there's anything on how the gunner entered > the > > "capsule"? Also have you any photos of 64.01 on any of the references > cited? > > > > Ans what about colour schemes? > > > > TIA > > > > Pedro > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tom Plesha > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:45 AM > > Subject: [WWI] Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) > > > > > > > Hi Pedro- > > > What exactly are you looking for. I have the references you cited and > > have > > > found the C.1 in them. > > > Later > > > Tom > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Pedro Soares" > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:24 PM > > > Subject: [WWI] Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather > long) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Michael Kendix > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 10:24 PM > > > > Subject: [WWI] Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather > > long) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that going through the top of the tower seem a likely > option. > > > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > > > I wonder.... The poor guy would have to use a long ladder and then he > > > would > > > > have to "jump" into the compartment, through the ring mount.... > > > > > > > > > > >As to references, all I have is the A-H FMP and as you say it's > > rather > > > > > >scarce. > > > > > > > > > > Compunding the confusion is the problem that the A-H tome has only > > > > pictures > > > > > and a profile of the 26.17, whereas the kit is the 64.01. > > > > > > > > No. Check page 273 for a nice picture of 64.01. Unfortunately it's > taken > > > > from behind, so we can't see the front of the compartment :-( > > > > > > > > The 26.17 had a > > > > > more squared shape to the aft end of its gunner canopy. The > > references > > > on > > > > > the kit's instruction sheet are somewhat ancient: > > > > > > > > > > Aero Modeler Feb 1967 > > > > > Air Progress Summer 1961 > > > > > Color Profiles of WW1 Combat Planes by Apostolo and Begnozzi - > > Crescent > > > > > Books 1974 > > > > > Reconnaissance & Bomber Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War - Harleyford > > > > > Storia Dell Aviazione- No.14 > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any of these things and can see the reference to the > > > > HB-C1/UFAG? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please, please.... > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Sad but you'll probably do a better job than the kit's wings. Note > > that > > > > the > > > > > kit's wings come in port and starboard sections - the HB-C1 and B1 > top > > > > wings > > > > > were both joined in the centre by a couple of rods. > > > > > > > > Thanks for pointing that out. It's very clear on a copule of pictures > in > > > the > > > > A-H book but I was getting carried away and was planning to do an > entire > > > > upper wing in one go. now I'll do it right. > > > > > > > > The bottom wings are already cut and sanded. Tomorrow I'll add the > tapes > > > and > > > > scribe the undersides. And yes you're right. They look much nicer than > > the > > > > kit's wings. I'm still afraid of the scallops though, which I'll > attempt > > > to > > > > do only after glueing the tapes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:44:16 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) Message-ID: <001501c1ad4f$bf130180$b17116d5@netcabo.pt> Mike, Tom is going to send me some images. If they won't include the profile from your book, I'll ask you then, if you don't mind. Thanks a lot Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:27 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) > Sorry about stumbling into the middle of the thread and misunderstanding what you needed. I do have the "Color Profiles of World War I Combat Planes, which show profiles of both 64.01 and 26.17, but I don't think they will provide much information as to the interior structure. I will be glad to send a scan should you want. I do not like to send unsolicited attachments. > > HTH, > Mike Kavanaugh > > > In a message dated Sun, 3 Feb 2002 5:31:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Michael Kendix" writes: > > > Mike: > > > > I don't have that book since I hoped that the FMP tome would be sufficient. > > Perhaps it has been unclear in our previous postings, but Pedro is building > > this HB-C.1 that has a gunner's tower in which he sits and can fire over the > > top of the wing unobstructed. They were built by UFAG and Phönix, each was > > different, I gather. > > > > Does this help or make things more confused than ever? > > > > Michael > > > > >From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com > > > > > >Hi Pedro and Michael, > > > > > >I'm probably pooling ignorance here but, "Die Flugzeuge der k.u.k. > > >Luftfahrtruppe und Seeflieger 1914-1918" has several photos and profiles of > > >the HB C.I, one photo with the crew aboard. I'm not so sure that there > > >isn't just one crew enclosure for both crew members, pilot's seat facing > > >forward and, whatever the observer sits on (a folding seat?) rear of that. > > >The coaming around the cockpit extends back almost to the observer's gun > > >ring in some photos/drawings and even beyond the forward part of the gun > > >ring by several inches on others (a later modification?. If not aware of > > >the question of a separate observer's cockpit and entry to it, I would have > > >assumed from looking at the C.I photo with the crew aboard that it was a > > >single compartment for both crew members. > > > > > >FWIW, > > >Mike Kavanaugh > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:12:51 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: bad news Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F0474@SERVER1> My deepest simpathy, Bob. I will pray for your mother. Alberto Casirati -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Bob Pearson Inviato: domenica 3 febbraio 2002 11.07 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] bad news After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final arrangements are made. Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:31:40 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: Bob, please accept my sincere condolences. I am very sorry for the loss of your mom. Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:59:24 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Compass Cutter and swivel blade refills Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301410689@TUFAO> Ray, I have an e-xacto compass, that uses the same type of blades. The problem is that I can't cut a decent circle with it since the blade tends to cut in spirals because of the swivel. I know this doesn't seem right but it happens. The fault may also lie in the compass itself which is a contraption that uses 2 plastic disks to hold a normal (thin type) cutter handle, holding the blade and a plastic piece that acts as the pivot. Will have to give your method a try Taks Pedro > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Boorman [mailto:Ray_Boorman@telus.net] > Sent: segunda-feira, 4 de Fevereiro de 2002 3:42 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Compass Cutter and swivel blade refills > > > I had to be nice today and go with SWMBO to the local craft store. > Usually this is boring since there are way to many smelly candles and > other perfumed stuff that I usually get a headache and don't look > round. For once I avoided the smelly candle wax section and I now > have two new and useful tools. Plus some browny points with SWMBO. > > I already have an Olfa Compass Cutter for cutting circles 1 > centimetre or larger. Great tool, you never have to use a decal > roundel again. Anyway the drawback with the Olfa is it cuts circles > from 1cm to 15cm. Great for 1/48 I guess but 1/72 roundels and other > small circles can be a problem. > > X-Acto have a tool called a Swivel blade. It looks like a #11 handle > with a tiny blade on the end in what appears to 2 or 3 mm tubing to > hold it in the handle. > Now you can buy the replacement blades in the tubing. I was looking > at the blade and realised that the tubing could be made to fit in a > normal set of compasses. > > Basically you take the lead out of the compass and then cut the > tubing to the same size and width. This takes about 2 or 3 minutes, > just make sure you have the tubing held in a small clamp and be > careful. Once you have shaved the excess width off the tubing cut the > tubeto the right lenght, insert the tube and blade into the compass > instead of the lead. You can now cut circles down to a mm or so. > Just thought I would pass this on, since its an easy and cheap way to > cut circles accurately. > > I also found a 10 piece leather punch set, just the thing for cutting > dials in instrument panels. > > Ray > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:26:10 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Cc: "Bob Pearson" Subject: Re:bad news Message-ID: <015801c1ad66$5d88cb40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dear Bob: We're very sad for your loss, and we'll pray for your mother's rest, knowing that she'll be always guiding you in hard times. A big hug from your friends in the south Wanda & Diego ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 04:36:06 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: <001501c1ad67$c13cab60$983dfad1@dwfjv01> Gaston wrote: Yeah Lee, what Gaston said. I would like to get an older PC just to play RBII3D on myself. > Ah yes, the most important part for playing sims are joysticks. Get you an > MS SideWinder Force Feedback stick. I love mine. Really nice when you get a serious hit on your wing and it gets snatched out fo your hand, wakes a feller up! The rudder function is build in the > handle so you won't need to buy expensive rudder pedals. To use the rudder > on the stick, twist the handle. Really strange for me at first, but now it is second nature. And the Force Feedback is really a wonderful > invention that gives you a feeling for the crate you are flying plus the > vibrations caused by the guns are also fine. Especially when taking off from PSP matting on MSCFS II! Blue Skies and Check Your Six! Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 04:48:43 -1800 From: ICMH4126@eudoramail.com To: Subject: ICMH : Breaks the Price Barrier HXTDLG Message-ID: <000012bc1193$00004e25$000012a6@mx1.eudoramail.com> SPECIAL ALERT
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------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 06:00:00 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Sorry for the ot Message-ID: <009901c1ad6b$182cf530$f238183f@cyrixp166> It was bound to happen. I am a New Englander that has been waiting 28 yrs to say this in public - We Won!! Sorry, Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:36:23 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: where the sprues grow and the styrene roams Message-ID: <03b101c1ad70$2c538ce0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mike wrote: > Sure! It's only logical. . . . cause and effect, whichever way you look at it. Italians like spaghetti so that's where the trees grow. Like people living along seacoasts eat more seafood than the inlanders. People living in the Alps eat goat cheese because the goats like to climb the mountains. Ain't natural science wonderful. . . it explains everything! Makes me remember a song... called "Big Rock Resin Mountains" One evening as the sun went down and the Hobby Shops were closing, Down the mall came a mod'ler hiking, and he said "Boys, I'm not turning. I'm heading for a land that's far away beside the crystal fountains So come with me, we'll go and see the Big Rock Resin Mountains In the Big Rock Resin Mountains, there's a land that's fair and bright, The decals grow on bushes and you don't need to sleep at night Where the kit shelves all are plenty and the airbrushes cleans theirselves Oh the bristols and the biffs and the photoetched trees, The future wax springs where the Dremel sings In the Big Rock Resin Mountains In the Big Rock Resin Mountains, all the judges are colour blind And the nosy wives are kept away and there's no silvering decals The shops are full of kits and the attics are full of stacks Oh I'm bound to go where there ain't no lawn to mow Where the parts don't fall, the spray cans don't blow In the Big Rock Resin Mountains I'll see you all this comin' fall in the Big Rock Resin Mountains! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:39:54 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: where the sprues grow and the styrene roams Message-ID: Well done D, one of your best! /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:40:21 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: where the sprues grow and the styrene roams Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B301410822@TUFAO> and the airbrushes > cleans theirselves Just this would make me happy for life.... > And the nosy wives are kept away Ah, shut up D., you don't know what you are talking about.....yet... ;-) Um abraço Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:46:08 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Yet another paint question Message-ID: > How many on this list use a spray booth? How many, like a > lot in the > article, just use a spare room with the window(s) open? > > Curisously, > > Warren > I have my own room, I use a gas-mask when spraying, then I leave the room for a while, or I open the window. I can't open the window during winter because my wife complains that the frost kills the plants. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:56:40 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: where the sprues grow and the styrene roams Message-ID: <001f01c1ad73$0386e160$0200a8c0@x.pl> That #$@%ed List is incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've just came back from winter vacations, turned on my comp, noticed that I was unsubscribed from the list (not by myself!), subscribed again, and.... ...and first message I've got was that Diego's song!!! I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!! (but some of them a little more) :-) Grzegorz (in a first days of spring, which came 2 months earlier this year - since Friday we have temperatures higher than in Spain, no snow, full sun, singing birds and even first flowers in green, beautifull Poland) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:06:49 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: LtGen Frank Peterson USMC Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C9760169D056@TECOM03E> Rob, The Separations & Retirement Branch is over in the Manpower building. They maintain a contact list for all retired 0-6s and above. As you can well imagine, they are very reluctant to pass out personal contact info on anyone, especially retired general officers. I'm willing to call over and see what I can do, but I need a little more background as to why you want to contact him. Get in touch with me offlist. Greg ????????????????>??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????? I know this isn't WWI, but saw History Ch special on Black Aviators this P.M., and am interested in in contacting LtGen (ret) Frank Peterson, USMC. According to HC he flew F-4's in 'Nam. I tried USMC web site, but got no help there. Thanks, Rob Owens _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:36:56 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: A rigging idea Message-ID: Neil sed: << I can't open the window during winter because my wife complains that the frost kills the plants. >> Neil, there may be a solution here: Rig the plants. Sprue, guitar string or mono--she won't be picky. Just work fast so she comes home and finds all her favorites rigged like a pusher and the window wide open with a couple a beers on the sill. just a thot- Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:42:46 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: A rigging idea Message-ID: Nutcase! Best regards Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: KnnthS@aol.com [mailto:KnnthS@aol.com] > Sent: den 4 februari 2002 14:39 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: A rigging idea > > > Neil sed: > > << I can't open the window during winter because my wife > complains that the > frost kills the plants. >> > > Neil, there may be a solution here: > Rig the plants. > Sprue, guitar string or mono--she won't be picky. Just work > fast so she comes > home and finds all her favorites rigged like a pusher and the > window wide > open with a couple a beers on the sill. > > just a thot- > Ken > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:43:22 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sorry for the ot Message-ID: <200202041343.IAA53828@mustang.sr.unh.edu> > It was bound to happen. I am a New Englander that has been waiting 28 yrs > to say this in public - We Won!! Normally as list Admin I'd squelch this off-topic but since this is all payback for having to watch Tony Eason suck all those years I'll let it slide :-) Al - List admin and lifetime Patriots fan WHOOOO! =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4138 **********************