WWI Digest 4135 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Inside the Pulpit of the Spad A2... by "Ross Moorhouse" 2) Re: sad ot news by "Gaston Graf" 3) Re: bad news by a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) 4) Re: Inside the Pulpit of the Spad A2... by "Steven Perry" 5) WWI Games by "Magnus" 6) Re: New Airmo by Witold Kozakiewicz 7) Re: New Airmo by "Steven Perry" 8) Re: bad news by "David's Mail Lists" 9) Re: bad news by "Lee M." 10) Re: bad news by "Dale Sebring" 11) Re: bad news by Carlos Valdes 12) Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) by "Michael Kendix" 13) Re: WWI Games by "ibs4421" 14) Re: bad news by "ibs4421" 15) Re: LtGen Frank Peterson USMC by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 16) Re: bad news by "Tom Plesha" 17) Re: New Airmo by "Matt Bittner" 18) Re: bad news by "Matt Bittner" 19) Re: bad news by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 20) Re: New Airmo by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Inside the Pulpit of the Spad A2... by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: WWI Games by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 23) Re: WWI Games by "ibs4421" 24) Re: Internet Modeler Website by Al Superczynski 25) Re: WWI Games by "Gaston Graf" 26) Re: bad news by "Gaston Graf" 27) Re: bad news by "Courtney Allen" 28) Re: WWI Games by "ibs4421" 29) Re: bad news by Ray Boorman 30) Turkish Earthquake by "Kenneth Zelnick" 31) Re: bad news by "Shannon Mark" 32) Re: Overpainting decals by "John Impenna" 33) Re: New Airmo by Witold Kozakiewicz 34) Re: bad news by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:09:45 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Inside the Pulpit of the Spad A2... Message-ID: <001501c1acab$ab8527a0$76492dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> I am working on an AModel Spad A2. Started it tonight. Great little kit in fact. What I would like to know is what side on the inside of the pulpit did the ammo cannisters go? As I would like to add a bit of detail to the inside. TIA Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:25:03 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: sad ot news Message-ID: He was at the Duxford show last year together with Bud Anderson... It's really sad to see them go one by one. Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > > Carlos, > That bums me out, I had a poster of his plane when I was a kid. > Got it from Monogram. Always was one of my heroes. Now "he > belongs to the > ages". > > Warren > > > > I've just gotten notice of the death of WWII ace Francis Gabreski at > > the age of 83. Another great one gone. > > Carlos > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:24:03 +0100 From: a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <16XLgh-1REe12C@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> Dear Bob, my thoughts are with you. Andreas Bob Pearson schrieb: > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > arrangements are made. > > Regards, > Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 07:37:35 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Inside the Pulpit of the Spad A2... Message-ID: <002501c1acaf$8eb586c0$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > I am working on an AModel Spad A2. Started it tonight. Great little kit in > fact. > > What I would like to know is what side on the inside of the pulpit did the > ammo cannisters go? As I would like to add a bit of detail to the inside. Not much info on the interior of the pulpits. I stuck a couple of ammo drums on the right side and a "black box" with various knobs of indeterminate function on the left just to add detail. The ducting that passes next to the seat may or may not be in that kit, Matt can speak to that. Basically the pulpit interiors are Dicta Ira sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:44:30 +0100 From: "Magnus" To: Subject: WWI Games Message-ID: <000b01c1acb0$87a5dbe0$648d42d5@magnus> Was thinking of buying myself a new computer, and was thinking of the use for all that performance. The last time I bought a new one, back in ´96, I decided on which CPU, just so I could play the newest games. My lowest demands was to be able to play Panzer General. After that I have uppgraded this machine several times, just to play newer games. Some years ago when the newer flight simulator games started to hit the stores, I thought, -"non of them can give me as much fun as I had with Wings". Did any of you play that game? I loved it! My ex-girlfriend hated it! We used to have my old Amiga in the bedroom, and she really hated it when I sat up all night trying to defeat the germans in the french skies. She especially hated the soundtrack, and my noicy Joystick. Do you know if this game ever was released for IBM-PC? Are there any good WWI flight simulators around? With todays performance, you could make them absolutly stunning! And if they could give it the feel of that old Wings game, I would be willing to pay anything. Magnus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 14:04:52 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Airmo Message-ID: <3C5D3574.2020606@bg.am.lodz.pl> Matt Bittner wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 19:19:50 -0500 (EST), Witold Kozakiewicz > wrote: > > >>And Ardpol latest OT news is Halberstadt C.V. superb. I must have it. >> > > Okay, now that Ardpol has decided to do a lot of German > two-seaters, what about the allied side? Not German. Ardpol releases planes used in Polish AF. In fact most of them was ex-German or AH. But one of the first kits was superb DH-9 (still inbox). Another line of their products are prototypes of Polish planes which would be produced in early 40's if not WWII. Something like Luftwafe'46. > For one idea, the > Planet SPAD 11 is far from perfect. A two-seat SPAD from Ardpol > would be most awesome. I doubt, we had IIRC only one SPAD.11 More probably is Salmson 2.A2 and Bre.14. But with MPM roumors and othe resin kits already released chances are very low. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 08:24:37 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: New Airmo Message-ID: <003601c1acb6$20a9aa60$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Another line of their products are prototypes of Polish planes which > would be produced in early 40's if not WWII. Something like Luftwafe'46. A Polish "Luft '40". How cool! It is neat to see the irrepressable pride that seems to be a national characteristic of all our Polish members. I see the same thing in Polish kits. The international nature of this List brings so much more to us than good WWI modeling advice. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 07:48:29 -0600 From: "David's Mail Lists" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <005501c1acb9$7638b680$0a16d918@Jeanne> Bob, I am terribly sorry about your loss. I will remember you and your mother in my prayers. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: [WWI] bad news > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > arrangements are made. > > Regards, > Bob Pearson > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 08:27:50 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <3C5D48E6.18125828@x25.net> Bob, Please accept my most sincere condolences at this sad time. May she rest in peace and tranquility. I am sure she has earned that and more. Lee M. Bob Pearson wrote: > > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > arrangements are made. > > Regards, > Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 07:29:25 -0700 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <001a01c1acbf$2f11a0e0$b4a58dd0@RDS> I'm so sorry Bob, please accept our thoughts & prayers. All our love, Dale & Gloria Sebring ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 10:05:38 -0500 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <3C5D51C2.A7681EA3@conted.gatech.edu> My condolences, Bob. Take care of yourself. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 15:30:10 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: HB C.I vac/ was: Kits to Pass On: Part II (rather long) Message-ID: >From: "Pedro Soares" > >I started yesterday the Eagles Talon HB C1 UFAG and I've already cut >and >glued the bottom wing. I used both upper and lower sides and it >does make >into a very acceptable wing. >Yes, but if I were to use only the upper side I'd have a lot of trouble >getting the LE right. Pedro: I am interested as to what references you a re using for this kit. In particular, the gunner's enclosure thing. I see a couple of pictures in the A-H FMP tome but it's not entirely clear to me where the openings for this turret are located and what they look like. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 09:46:10 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: <001b01c1acc9$e7b9c500$913dfad1@dwfjv01> Magnus, The latest WWI flight sim to my knowledge is Red Baron II 3D. The bad news? Sierra killed off Dynamix, the division which produced it, and it is no longer in production. I got a copy back in September for $19.95 when they were selling it off. I does not work well with Windows XP, and I have heard of some having problems geting it ti run with Windows ME, but I have had none so far to amount to anything. The good news in all of this? There is a very dedicated group of enthusiasts out there who are keeping this game going, and there are sooo many planes available that people have creatd for the game that did not come with it. We are in the midle of a war right now, Great War V, and I am having a blast with it. Please e-mail me off-list if you would like, and I can send you some links. If I had the room, I would pick up an old PC slower than mine, and dedicated it soley to RBII3D. I know Wal-Mart was selling some 500Mhz machines around Christmas for $300.00. I would then find a Voodoo 3D card. LMK if you need any more information. Warren Who can't wait until our Squadron gets rid of those Morane Bullets! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magnus" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:42 AM Subject: [WWI] WWI Games > Was thinking of buying myself a new computer, and was thinking of the use > for all that performance. The last time I bought a new one, back in ´96, I > decided on which CPU, just so I could play the newest games. My lowest > demands was to be able to play Panzer General. After that I have uppgraded > this machine several times, just to play newer games. Some years ago when > the newer flight simulator games started to hit the stores, I thought, -"non > of them can give me as much fun as I had with Wings". Did any of you play > that game? I loved it! My ex-girlfriend hated it! We used to have my old > Amiga in the bedroom, and she really hated it when I sat up all night trying > to defeat the germans in the french skies. She especially hated the > soundtrack, and my noicy Joystick. > Do you know if this game ever was released for IBM-PC? Are there any good > WWI flight simulators around? With todays performance, you could make them > absolutly stunning! And if they could give it the feel of that old Wings > game, I would be willing to pay anything. > > Magnus > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 09:53:16 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <006101c1acca$e571db60$913dfad1@dwfjv01> Bob, Please accept our condolences and prayers for you and your family. This is not an easy time. Warren & Esther Dickinson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:19:13 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: LtGen Frank Peterson USMC Message-ID: <159.84ac2e9.298ebd01@aol.com> Rob, There are at least a couple of USMC type listees. Greg Balzer, in particular, may be well situated to help you. The weekend is usually not a good time to address this sort of thing because most listees (notably excepting myself) have better things to do with their lives on the weekends. If you don't receive any responses in a few days, why don't you ask again? Regards, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:31:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, "robert owens" writes: > > I know this isn't WWI, but saw History Ch special on Black Aviators this > P.M., and am interested in in contacting LtGen (ret) Frank Peterson, USMC. > According to HC he flew F-4's in 'Nam. I tried USMC web site, but got no > help there. Thanks, Rob Owens > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 11:22:57 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <005c01c1accf$0b088500$ae913c44@macmb101.mi.comcast.net> Bob- My sincere thoughts and prayers are for you. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:06 AM Subject: [WWI] bad news > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > arrangements are made. > > Regards, > Bob Pearson > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 10:29:58 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: New Airmo Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:22:02 -0500 (EST), Ray Boorman wrote: > I can think of some other French ........ But since this is a > family list I'll shut up! ;0) That'll be a first. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 10:31:47 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 05:06:32 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > arrangements are made. My condolences and prayers are with you and her. Chin up, mate! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:29:05 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <57.5f187b5.298ebf52@aol.com> Bob, My condolences. No apologies are necessary. That's the last thing you need to be thinking about. Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sun, 3 Feb 2002 5:07:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Bob Pearson" writes: > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > arrangements are made. > > Regards, > Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 10:34:36 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: New Airmo Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 08:08:19 -0500 (EST), Witold Kozakiewicz wrote: > Not German. Ardpol releases planes used in Polish AF. In fact most of > them was ex-German or AH. But one of the first kits was superb DH-9 > (still inbox). > Another line of their products are prototypes of Polish planes which > would be produced in early 40's if not WWII. Something like Luftwafe'46. Now that makes a lot of sense. :-) Does that even include the US 'tweeners? ;-) > I doubt, we had IIRC only one SPAD.11 More probably is Salmson 2.A2 and > Bre.14. But with MPM roumors and othe resin kits already released > chances are very low. Good point. Hmmm...did the Poles ever use the Morane Saulnier Type P? There's another we sorely need kitted. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 10:39:40 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Inside the Pulpit of the Spad A2... Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 07:38:01 -0500 (EST), Steven Perry wrote: > Not much info on the interior of the pulpits. I stuck a couple of ammo drums > on the right side and a "black box" with various knobs of indeterminate > function on the left just to add detail. Ah yes, the infamous "what's inside the SA nacelle". The only thing we can be certain of is a seat. Everything else is left to your imagination. > The ducting that passes next to the seat may or may not be in that kit, Matt > can speak to that. It is. Believe it or not, the Amodel nacelle is the most accurate of all three kits - Amodel, Omega and Roseplane. Omega's cockpit is the most accurate, but still falls short. > Basically the pulpit interiors are Dicta Ira Definitely! For me, I bought the Omega "Russian bombs and camera" set, and stuck one of the camera's over the nacelle underside window. I hollowed out where the lens should be, and glued on an MV Lens from my armor collection. Might not be accurate, but there's no one that can tell me any better. That way my interior is extremely cluttered. :-) If you want to know more about the Amodel kit, definitely LMK. I just scraped off the "grills" on the nacelle sides and will add some photoetch screen to the area. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:41:05 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: <39.21df5272.298ec221@aol.com> In a message dated Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:46:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, "ibs4421" Warren writes: > Who can't wait until our Squadron gets rid of those Morane Bullets! :) Doesn't your squadron write them off after you crash them or they are shot down? Then, of course, I guess they would have to write off the prople flying them. So, is each episode self-contained? Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 11:24:10 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: <001d01c1acd7$9889d340$913dfad1@dwfjv01> Mike, Yes we do write them off. The "war" started Fri. night, and we had a n allocation of just a couple of Nie. 17's, some Nie. 11's, a couple of DH 2's (why that I don't know), and a complement of recon bomber types (Sop. 1 1/2 Strutters). Out attrition rate Fri. night was pretty high between escorting our own recons and trying to repel theirs. As of last night we had: 2 Nie. 17's 5 Nie. 11's 22 Morane Bullets 26 bombers/recon a/c Being the most junior and inexperienced member, I naturally draw a Morane. This is what we have to work with until such time as the manufacturers and our gov't. resupply us. Whe a new a/c type comes along, we can turn in old/obsolete a/c for new ones at a pre-determined ratio. It really is a lot of fun to play this, it is so open ended. If you are curious, the rules are posted at this website: http://www.greatwars.org/ Look along the left hand side for the rules, etc. I hope to find some fellow modelers in this group. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:28:52 -0600 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Internet Modeler Website Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 06:11:00 -0500 (EST), Chris wrote: >Anybody having problems accessing IM website? I couldn't get it last night but everything seems to be normal now. Al ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:43:06 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: Warren, glad to read you find so much excitement and fun with RBII wars. I never participated in a war because I found the rule system way to complicated and there was always problems gathering the people together for playing. Some was always too late, others said they come and play but never showed up - that was very frustrating. But we can always meet for a fun game at one of the regular servers. Grzegorz will certainly participate and maybe I can get Achim Engels into the game as well, if his time will allow it to play. It would be a pleasure to disassemble your little Morane above the cyber front ;o). Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:52:10 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: Dear Bob, I send you my sincere condolences for the loss of your beloved mother. My thoughts are with you in this hard time. I hope you will get over it all soon and keep your mother in fond memories. Her body may have died but in your heart she will live forever, and so she never really dies. in friendship Gaston ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 09:48:35 -0800 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <001f01c1acdb$016cb000$5444510c@worldnet.att.net> Dear Bob, My best thoughts go with you. regards, Courtney Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 2:06 AM Subject: [WWI] bad news > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > arrangements are made. > > Regards, > Bob Pearson > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 11:59:12 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: WWI Games Message-ID: <007d01c1acdc$7d76ba00$913dfad1@dwfjv01> Gaston, I would love to. Ya'll will probably enjoy it when you are pressed hard for time as it won't take you long! :) When I play RB on the PC here at home, I do so with all the "stops" pulled out for the most experience possible. I have found out that going against other people is a completely different ball game, much, much harder. We have one Aussie in our squadron, and he is having to get up very early to playwith us. It is hard to get everyone together. I am going to ask the CO for leave on the Saturday night following Valentine's Day. I may have some action in a different sector. :O Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaston Graf" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: WWI Games > Warren, > > glad to read you find so much excitement and fun with RBII wars. I never > participated in a war because I found the rule system way to complicated and > there was always problems gathering the people together for playing. Some > was always too late, others said they come and play but never showed up - > that was very frustrating. > > But we can always meet for a fun game at one of the regular servers. > Grzegorz will certainly participate and maybe I can get Achim Engels into > the game as well, if his time will allow it to play. It would be a pleasure > to disassemble your little Morane above the cyber front ;o). > > Gaston > www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:21:20 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: , Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <20020203182424.OODY28767.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> We know from meeting you last summer Bob, that you are very close to your family. Please accept our sincere condolences on your loss. Your Mother has gone to a better place, but in your heart she will never be gone. All the best Gillian, Ray and Ryan Boorman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:30:52 -0600 From: "Kenneth Zelnick" To: Subject: Turkish Earthquake Message-ID: <002401c1ace0$e9beec60$482bb4d0@zelnick> I Just saw that there has been a major earthquake in central Turkey. Hope Bulent, and any other listees in the area, are OK. Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:35:53 -0600 From: "Shannon Mark" To: Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <00a201c1ace1$9d507780$661efea9@maincomp> You can be sure that you are in all of our thoughts and prayers. My deepest sympathies at this time to you and your family and friends. .Mark. > Bob Pearson wrote: > > > > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > > arrangements are made. > > > > Regards, > > Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 14:37:27 -0500 From: "John Impenna" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Overpainting decals Message-ID: <002801c1acea$365a5920$4be4a4d8@cable.rcn.com> Hi Warren, >>I remember asking the list if they undercoated/painted the wings a particular color before applying lozenge decals. Did your results have to do with the decals being very thin??<< Yes, it was due to how thin the decal paper that Papa Tango offers is, as well as the translucence caused by the color photocopier. I have found that decals made this way(print out a quality master on glossy paper and take to Staples and have it photocopied on the decal paper) can be varied by the tone of the undercoat(primer). A neutral gray and you basically get the actual color. White or yellow and they are brighter, dark gray and they are subdued. I like to do this so say 3 a/c with the same 4 color lozenge on the upper wing will appear noticeably different. Of course, this doesn't work with opaque decals or decals printed on white-background decal paper. Regards, John Impenna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 20:51:20 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Airmo Message-ID: <3C5D94B8.9040109@bg.am.lodz.pl> Matt Bittner wrote: > Does that even include the US > 'tweeners? ;-) > US tweeners started Silesian Eagle with Curtiss A-3. Owner of SE cooperate with Ardopl and next kits of US planes they decided to release under Ardpol label as I wrote you off-list. > Good point. Hmmm...did the Poles ever use the Morane Saulnier > Type P? There's another we sorely need kitted. I'm not sure, Is MS-3 or MS-4 the same as P type? There were very few types of French planes in our service. Bre.14 (about 150), Salmson (53) and Spad VII (66), XIII (40)were one of the most importand. Other we had: Farman F-30 and F-XVI (10) Morane MS-3 (3), MS-4 (2), MS-29(5), MS-30(21) Vosin III (2), V (4) Nieuport 11 (2), 16 (1), 17(7) 17 bis(2) 21(5), 23 (14), 24 (1) 24bis(5) and 4 more fighter of unknown type, 81D2 (21), 80E2(15) 83E1(22) Caudron G.IIIE2 (59) So you see, very few planes of each type. Most of them were ex-Russian or bought in France for training. Morane P was released by Joystick - vac kit -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 15:04:51 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: bad news Message-ID: <3C5D97E3.34AC4B55@verizon.net> Sincerest condolences from Sharon, Jenna and Myself, Bob. I know its tough. Remeber the good times. Alvie Bob Pearson wrote: > After sitting by her bedside for the last 41 hours, my mother has finally > passed away. I would like to apologize to anyone I have promised work to in > the near future, and say that it will not be forthcoming until final > arrangements are made. > > Regards, > Bob Pearson ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4135 **********************