WWI Digest 4129 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Scratch FE 8? by Paul Thompson 2) Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line by "Gaston Graf" 3) Peter Plattner has a new homepage by Hans.Trauner@n-ergie.de 4) RE: The ending story of a lonely Albatros.. by Crawford Neil 5) Re: L-39 Information by "Sandy Adam" 6) A plethora of Nieuportie by "Nash, Graham" 7) Re: Scratch FE 8? by Crawford Neil 8) Re: L-39 Information by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 9) February IM by "Bob Pearson" 10) I knew it by "Bob Pearson" 11) Re: Captured SPAD VII by David Fleming 12) Re: BE12a question by David Fleming 13) RE: February IM by "Diego Fernetti" 14) RE: A plethora of Nieuportie by "Diego Fernetti" 15) RE: Peter Plattner has a new homepage by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: Captured SPAD VII by "Bob Pearson" 17) Naval lozenge colors by Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz 18) Re: Wings Level by Balzer Mr Gregory P 19) Latest Internet Modeler by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 20) Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line by "Diego Fernetti" 21) RE: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was by "Diego Fernetti" 22) RE: strut to fuselage joint by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Re: The ending story of a lonely Albatros.. by "Muth and Zulick" 24) Re: BE12a question by "Michael Kendix" 25) R: RE: strut to fuselage joint by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 26) Re: Dumb question #491 by "Muth and Zulick" 27) Re: R: RE: strut to fuselage joint by tbittners@sprintmail.com 28) R: Re: R: RE: strut to fuselage joint by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 29) Re: Captured SPAD VII by a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) 30) "Overpainting" decals by tbittners@sprintmail.com 31) Re: "Overpainting" decals by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 32) Thanks Tomasz by Balzer Mr Gregory P 33) RE: More updates (Andreas Martin's models) by a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 08:18:46 +0100 From: Paul Thompson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Scratch FE 8? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020202081628.009f54d0@pop.xs4all.nl> Robert, I'm in digest mode, so apologies if this is already answered. A 1/72 scratch built Fe 8 is on the WW1 site by Gabrielle Zenoni, and it is one cool beastie. HTH, Paul T. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:52:40 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line Message-ID: Thanks Gabe - will save the info. That means the great man was of small physical size. But this was at the same time his advantage. Small pilot = less weight = agile aircraft. Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > I heard somewhere (on a t.v. program) that MvR was 5'6". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:46:54 +0100 From: Hans.Trauner@n-ergie.de To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Peter Plattner has a new homepage Message-ID: Peter Plattner, the man with the AH models with real wood planked fuselages has a new homepage. http://62.178.164.35/~hannes/PP/index.html?links2.html&1 German text only. But look at these Taube photos.... Any possibility to get argentine finger chopping machines trough EU customs? Hans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:03:47 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: The ending story of a lonely Albatros.. Message-ID: Looks like you've had a hard time with this one Hans, surprising thing is that perseverence usually pays off, and you will finally sit there with a finished little beauty in front of you. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:20:19 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Cc: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Re: L-39 Information Message-ID: <000b01c1ab01$acfc08c0$0ee8b094@sandyada> Hi Larry I'm afraid I can't help you here, but will forward the request to the discussion group and see if anybody else can. Best regards Sandy Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry E. Montague" To: Sent: 31 January 2002 20:06 Subject: L-39 Information > I came across your email address in some kind of discussion group where > mention was made of the Aero L-39 airplane. There was something mentioned > particularly about "photographic instrument panels" of the L-39. I am in > the process of purchasing an L-39 in the United States and would like to > locate a few items relative to it. > > I am looking for a source of posters or high-resolution photographs from > which posters could be created. I would also like to obtain pictures of the > cockpits and instrument panels and desks that are made perpendicular to the > panels so there won't be any oblique error. My objective is to make > full-size posters of the panels. > > I am also looking for a source of models of the L-39. These would need to > be pre-assembled. First, a display model, probably made of wood, > approximately 12" to 18" in length. Secondly, I am also looking for > die-cast or similar models approximately 4" to 6" in length. > > If you know where I might obtain any of these items I would appreciate the > information. > > Thanks for your time and consideration. > > Sincerely, > > Larry E. Montague, President > L-39, Inc. > 1019 Boones Hollow Drive > Memphis, TN 38018-5887 > > Phone: (901)757-4264 > Cell: (901)428-4264 > > lmontague@l39memphis.com > http://www.l39memphis.com (Website "VERY" preliminary) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:22:54 -0000 From: "Nash, Graham" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: A plethora of Nieuportie Message-ID: <07720BA40FFED2118E03002048403D020876F357@exchuk08.eu.ssmb.com> > Just to let the list know, I'm still live, but lurking :-( > > Saw some traffic about the Nieuports - The HR Model resin versions are old > news-they have been available at Hannants for quite some time. Somewhat > more interesting is that the latest Scale Aviation Modeller International > (Vol 8 No 2 February 2002) shows the following as coming soon from > Choroszy Modelbud. > > Aircraft Kit No > Albatros C.Ia A50 > Nakajima Ko 3 A47 (Japanese Nie 24) > Nakajima Ko 3 A48 (With Skis) > Nieuport 25 A45 > Nieuport 27 A46 > Nieuport 24 A43 > Albatros C.I A49 > Nieuport 24bis A42 > Nieuport 17bis A42 > > Yokosho Ro-Go Ko-GATA floatplane 3 versions 41, B40 and 42 (OT Japanese > floatplane) > > All of the above have box art in the Choroszy style, so it looks fairly > certain that these are coming out - Perhaps Mr R meant that Nieuports were > coming from Eastern Europe rather than Eastern Express? > > Regards > > Uncle Sniffy > > > > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:51:55 -0600 > From: "ibs4421" > To: > Subject: Re: new nieuports next month! > Message-ID: <001d01c1a824$7d337d60$773dfad1@dwfjv01> > > > > > Monsieur Rimell from Albatros sent me this Email: > > " Yes, EE are to release six Nieuports - 17, 21, 23, 24, 25 27 all to > 1:72 > > and so are HR in resin!! Should be out in Feb/March." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:26:32 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Scratch FE 8? Message-ID: Great idea, apart from the nose it's probably fairly straightforward (if you can say that about any scratchbuilld). For the nose I'd make a male mold of balsa, then heat some plasticard over a cooker-plate, till it gets floppy, and then just lay over the mold. If that doesn't work I'd up the ante and make a female mold (just a hole in a piece of hardboard, the same shape as the male mold only a little bigger). Then clamp the plasticard to the female mold, and push the male mold through. Do a dozen, then use the best parts of them to glue a nose together, or you might be lucky and get a decent one immediately. /Neil C. I'm planning to scratch a DH2 in > 1/32 and need > > > pointers on VACing the nose. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:28:38 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: Re: L-39 Information Message-ID: Um, the Aero L-39 is a modern (well, sorta modern; first flew in 1968) jet trainer. Don't think it'd be quite in the era of the WWI list. That said, Wings & Wheels Press just came out with a very nice photo reference on the plane. See it in the February Internet Modeler in a few minutes.... Sincerely, Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Illustrator Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Sandy > Adam > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:23 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: L-39 Information > > > Hi Larry > I'm afraid I can't help you here, but will forward the request to the > discussion group and see if anybody else can. > Best regards > Sandy Adam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 02:10:45 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: February IM Message-ID: <101255827201@smtp.vphos.net> Hi all, Time for another issue of everyone's favourite online publication. .. and this time we are heavy with OT content. Builds by David Calhoun and Michael Kendix. Reviews by Michael Kendix, Matt Bittner, Chris B-R, Shane Jenkins and myself .. and of course there is something for the gardeners amongst us. No doubt I have forgotten someone. .. sorry Regards, Bob Pearson Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 02:14:30 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: I knew it Message-ID: <101255849301@smtp.vphos.net> I forgot to mention Karen Rychlewski also did a review Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 09:53:48 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Captured SPAD VII Message-ID: <3C5A65AC.7054539D@dial.pipex.com> Shane Weier wrote: > Brent, > > > My only reference is the new decal sheet on Jasta 4 from A/G. > > So, I don't > > know if it existed or not. I just know Dr. Merrill told me so. > > In my experience that's a pretty good indication that it existed. *And* that > A/G either has, or had, proof to that effect. In general, their instructions > will say so if there's *any* element of speculation in any scheme. > There is an ex-Spa.86 Spad in German marks in the Datafile. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:06:00 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE12a question Message-ID: <3C5A6888.7003FBB9@dial.pipex.com> Michael Kendix wrote: > Yes, sorry, not a very sexy topic I'm afraid. None of your garish lozenge > scheme with red and purple fuselages etc. > > I'm attempting to construct the Tom-M kit, which has a few omissions. One > is this bulging thing on the underside of the front fuselage. It shows up > in the profile on the back of the BE12a/b Datafile. I believe it is > asymmetrically located - nearer to the port side. Does anyone have any idea > what this is and better still, some reference photos aside from those in the > Datafile, which I own? haven't found anything not covered by the Datafile, but curiously there are two shapes to this - a small round fairing (DF photo 57) and a long one (DF 56). Definitely asymmetric. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:42:44 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: February IM Message-ID: <00cc01c1ab15$907c1b40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Great issue, as always. It's refreshing to see that the GOOD twin Michael has written an article again. He did a wonderful job on those albatrosen. I liked the Flower website as well, Bob, I do hope that it may grow soon! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:12 AM Subject: [WWI] February IM > Hi all, > > Time for another issue of everyone's favourite online publication. .. and > this time we are heavy with OT content. Builds by David Calhoun and Michael > Kendix. Reviews by Michael Kendix, Matt Bittner, Chris B-R, Shane Jenkins > and myself .. and of course there is something for the gardeners amongst us. > > No doubt I have forgotten someone. .. sorry > > Regards, > Bob Pearson > > Managing Editor / Internet Modeler > http://www.internetmodeler.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:44:58 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Cc: Subject: RE: A plethora of Nieuportie Message-ID: <00db01c1ab15$e05def80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Excellent news, Graham, thanks for the update. A new nieuport 17... hmmmmm.... intriguing! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nash, Graham To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:27 AM Subject: [WWI] A plethora of Nieuportie > > Just to let the list know, I'm still live, but lurking :-( > > > > Saw some traffic about the Nieuports - The HR Model resin versions are old > > news-they have been available at Hannants for quite some time. Somewhat > > more interesting is that the latest Scale Aviation Modeller International > > (Vol 8 No 2 February 2002) shows the following as coming soon from > > Choroszy Modelbud. > > > > Aircraft Kit No > > Albatros C.Ia A50 > > Nakajima Ko 3 A47 (Japanese Nie 24) > > Nakajima Ko 3 A48 (With Skis) > > Nieuport 25 A45 > > Nieuport 27 A46 > > Nieuport 24 A43 > > Albatros C.I A49 > > Nieuport 24bis A42 > > Nieuport 17bis A42 > > > > Yokosho Ro-Go Ko-GATA floatplane 3 versions 41, B40 and 42 (OT Japanese > > floatplane) > > > > All of the above have box art in the Choroszy style, so it looks fairly > > certain that these are coming out - Perhaps Mr R meant that Nieuports were > > coming from Eastern Europe rather than Eastern Express? > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:01:32 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Peter Plattner has a new homepage Message-ID: <00ef01c1ab18$3077b1c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I'll have to put up several subisdiaries all over the world. D. Excellent job, this guy Plattner! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:56 AM Subject: [WWI] Peter Plattner has a new homepage > Peter Plattner, the man with the AH models with real wood planked fuselages > has a new homepage. > http://62.178.164.35/~hannes/PP/index.html?links2.html&1 > German text only. But look at these Taube photos.... > Any possibility to get argentine finger chopping machines trough EU > customs? > > Hans > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 04:08:56 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Captured SPAD VII Message-ID: <101256536701@smtp.vphos.net> That's the one I illustrated for OTF Bob ---------- >From: David Fleming > There is an ex-Spa.86 Spad in German marks in the Datafile. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:24:25 +0100 From: Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Naval lozenge colors Message-ID: Hi all, Sorry for my stupid question. I working on 1/144 lozenge and I looking for exact CMYK codes for lozenge colors. I need naval lozenge (blue and brown variant) and A-H "lozenge". Is there any source for these colors on the web? TIA Lubos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:06:42 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Wings Level Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C9760169D04E@TECOM03E> The sad part Warren, I'm starting to develop that REMF (rear echelon MF) gut roll to go with the job as well. It's a real blow to the ego when full bird colonels pass you on the street and greet you with a "good morning sir!" The threat is no longer small arms, land mines and artillery, but coffee spills, ink stains and paper cuts!!! ????????????????>??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????? > I'm re-subscribed again, and recieving posts from the list. New location, > bigger desk and better coffee!! It's good to be back. > Greg That Greg! Puttin' the "ogue" in "Pogue". Warren A fromer consumer of pogey bait in the field. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:08:28 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: "Wwi Modeling List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Latest Internet Modeler Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F046D@SERVER1> As usual (and happily so !), a very fine issue of this nice magazine. Bob Pearson and the rest of the IM staff are to be complimented on the quality of their work: thank to you all ! And many thanks to all the List's contributors, who also did a very fine job. I especially liked Michael Kendix's Albatroses. All the very best, Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:24:33 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line Message-ID: <011f01c1ab23$c95b6660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Warren was tired of: > people telling me, > "Well . . . people were so much smaller back then." Well, yes and no. > Smaller doesn't always translate into shorter. -snip- There WAS a much > more substantial weight difference. Some years ago I borrowed a pictorial french book on the "Grande Guerre" and it was amazing to see the difference in the looks of the fresh american troops arrived to France to those battle-tired peasants that were the french army of 1918. American young men were closer of the image of a young man we have nowadays: full chest, strong legs and cheerful face. Their French comrades seemed little and old compared to them, but I bet that they had about the same age, but they were worst fed all his life. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:48:06 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was Message-ID: <017f01c1ab27$13e789e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Shane wrote: > Stan Dallas was 6'3" tall, about 1,90 metres and a rather bulky build as > well. He had to have the seat of his Sopwith Triplane modified IIRC, but I don't > believe he was badly handicapped by his size Certainly, just a matter of comfort and to adjust the trim to the airplane. Anyway, a snug fit in an aircraft can be as good as a well fitting glove. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:49:57 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: strut to fuselage joint Message-ID: <01cb01c1ab27$562abc00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks to all who answered my question, I'll try to use this knowledge when I'll fit the undercarriage to the Nieuport 28 D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:58:08 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: The ending story of a lonely Albatros.. Message-ID: <000a01c1ab28$82dc4600$0100005a@ptd.net> I used Cyano to fix the > complete gear. After that I washed the grey gear with a oil / white spirit > mix. > Did you know that white spirit cracks cyano? Hans.....Reading that this monring cracked me up ! Found myself laughing out load at 8:30 AM. Mike Muth...gearing up for the move back into the refurbished model room tomorrow ;-)))) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 14:01:17 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: BE12a question Message-ID: >From: David Fleming > >haven't found anything not covered by the Datafile, but curiously >there >are two shapes to this - a small round fairing (DF photo 57) and >a long >one (DF 56). > >Definitely asymmetric. Dave: Many thanks for trying and pointing out these to me. I think that, in the end, I'll have to guess at it. It turns out that this "issue" is not the only "Challenge" for this kit. Of course, being resin, the kit presents all the difficulties associated with that but the stitching detail on the front fuselage sides was done roughly, so I sanded it down and will have to rescribe. Also, the cockpit walls are so thick that I couldn't fit the seat in. When I Dremel'ed down the cokpit sides, I came upon an air bubble in the resin and a small hole appeared in the fuselage side. No big deal - it was easily filled but this ain't no "Mr. Tamigawa neighbourhood". Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:54:04 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: RE: strut to fuselage joint Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F0470@SERVER1> Sorry for being late on this, but my favourite method is to drill out small oval holes at the legs location point, scratchbuilding the latter with HS Contrail extruded material keeping them slightly longer than required and then inserting them in the holes. A little adjustment follows and tiny drops of white glue (thinned down with water) are placed in the part of the holes which remains opened after inserting the legs. When white glue has dried tiny drops of CA glue, applied with a thin length of HSS, complete the job and give a quite strong assembly. Of course, if the legs are stretched to scale thickness, rigging is essential to assure the required rigidity to the whole complex... All the very best, Alberto Casirati -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Diego Fernetti Inviato: venerd́ 1 febbraio 2002 14.50 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] RE: strut to fuselage joint Thanks to all who answered my question, I'll try to use this knowledge when I'll fit the undercarriage to the Nieuport 28 D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:15:11 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Dumb question #491 Message-ID: <00bf01c1ab2a$dc6b9a20$0100005a@ptd.net> ----- So, here comes the question: what planes must have the interior fuselage > painted in wood color? And what ones must be painted in linen color? Marcio As an aside, I like using very thin wood for the framing on CDL interiors. Looks way cool. I get the wood from my neighbor who smokes cigars that come in tubes with a very thin wood wrapper. Easy to cut and goes on with white glue. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:14:23 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R: RE: strut to fuselage joint Message-ID: <20020201141423.98235467CE@eclipse.qis.net> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:08:40 -0500 (EST), a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it wrote: >Of course, if the legs are stretched to scale thickness, rigging is >essential to assure the required rigidity to the whole complex... Funny. I was adding parts to one of the Triplanes (Jacobs), now that it's in its final phases, and the rigging is going to be necessary to keep its landing gear rigid. The Roden Dr.I gear is a bit flimsy, and the rigging will definitely help. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:14:36 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: Re: R: RE: strut to fuselage joint Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F0472@SERVER1> Nice, isn't it ? Sort of an operating undercarriage, at least in some respects.... Alberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di tbittners@sprintmail.com Inviato: venerd́ 1 febbraio 2002 15.17 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Re: R: RE: strut to fuselage joint On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:08:40 -0500 (EST), a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it wrote: >Of course, if the legs are stretched to scale thickness, rigging is >essential to assure the required rigidity to the whole complex... Funny. I was adding parts to one of the Triplanes (Jacobs), now that it's in its final phases, and the rigging is going to be necessary to keep its landing gear rigid. The Roden Dr.I gear is a bit flimsy, and the rigging will definitely help. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:30:52 +0100 From: a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Captured SPAD VII Message-ID: <16WeiK-2BomgqC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> Hi Mark, I have find a picture of a Spad VII in German markings. The serial at the fin must be B3508. But I don't know if taht is the Spad are you looking for? Andreas Matt Bittner schrieb: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:45:17 -0500 (EST), Brent Theobald wrote: > > > What happened? Did the secret handshake change? There wasn't one response > to > > my question concerning the SPAD VII captured and flown by Jasta 4. Do any > > pictures exist for this aircraft? > > What does it look like? There was a Windsock issue that covered > Allied types captured and flown by the Germans. There were at > least two SPAD 7s in there. > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:10 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: "Overpainting" decals Message-ID: <20020201153610.0B3FE46890@eclipse.qis.net> I have some decals that I don't agree with the colors. I'm trying to come up with some way of "overpainting" them after they're on the model. However, I don't think paints are the way to go because of the brush strokes left behind (especially acrylics). Instead, I'm thinking of using inks. Anybody do anything like this that can give me some pointers? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:01:56 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: "Overpainting" decals Message-ID: Hi Matt, I have had some success with this using Future with ink to make a translucent mixture similar to the Gunze and Tamiya clear colors. I have, for example, used a little india ink in future to create a "smoke" colored mixture and used this to tone down Japanese Hinomarus to a more blood red than the bright red they usually come in. It also works well on Russian stars. VERY little ink, very light coats..I have not tried brushing it. Only airbrushing. Also, depending upon how opaque the decals are, you may be able to adjust their tone by underpainting. I did this with some home made lozenge on Tango Papa clear decal paper(very thin). Paint dark grey underneath to darken and light gray, yellow, white ,etc. to lighten. I have tried this twice on two different scrap wings; one with dark grey undercoat, one with white and got 2 noticeably different looking wings from the same sheet of 4-color lozenge. YMMV. Good Luck! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:09:11 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Thanks Tomasz Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C9760169D052@TECOM03E> Sorry for taking up bandwidth. All of my email addresses were destroyed during my recent office move. Tomasz, the decals arrived ~ beautiful!! Many thanks. Awhile back someone requested a set of MvR's 425/17 decals for a friend. Lance has forwarded me a set, and I have those, plus additional Fok. Dr. 1 numbers. Whoever it was please contact me off list if you're still interested. Greg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 17:36:36 +0100 From: a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: More updates (Andreas Martin's models) Message-ID: <16Wgg0-13t8ZEC@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> You are right, the Brisfit is the better model. But the Inpact-kits have a special attraction for me. Andreas Shane Weier schrieb: > Al says: > > > Another one from Andreas Martin - Avro Triplane. > > Which is glorious. First class paint job too. > > I *really* have to build all those oldies, they're terrific subjects and the > models have stood up well to passing time - they were positively superb for > their time. > > *However* I think the Bristol Fighter is even better. Very, very nice Biff > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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