WWI Digest 4128 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Captured SPAD VII by Shane Weier 2) Re: Captured SPAD VII by "Pedro Soares" 3) Re: Captured SPAD VII by Shane Weier 4) RE: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was by "Gaston Graf" 5) Re: Tom's 1/48 Nieuport detail set #212 by "Steven Perry" 6) Re: Tom's 1/48 Nieuport detail set #212 by "Steven Perry" 7) Re: Models to Pass on to the List by Rory Goodwin 8) OT reading alert by "Thomas Solinski" 9) Scratch FE 8? by "robert owens" 10) Re: Scratch FE 8? by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 11) Re: Scratch FE 8? by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 12) Fokker Anthology Question by "Laskodi" 13) Re: Scratch FE 8? by "Bob Pearson" 14) Re: Hi-Tech 1/48 AEG G.IV WW I German Bomber in Stock! by "Limon3" 15) Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line by "Limon3" 16) Re: Scratch DH2 by "robert owens" 17) Re: Hi-Tech 1/48 AEG G.IV WW I German Bomber in Stock! by EPMyles@aol.com 18) Re: Scratch DH2 by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 19) Re: Fokker Anthology Question by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 20) Re: Scratch DH2 by "robert owens" 21) Barry Berman FMP IRAS book deal by Rory Goodwin 22) Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line by "ibs4421" 23) Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was by Shane Weier 24) OT Book from 1916 by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 25) Re: Wings Level by "ibs4421" 26) Albatros Font again by "Mike Franklin" 27) Re: Albatros Font again by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 28) Re: Crowood book by Ray Boorman 29) ot Hard Days Work WAS : Re: Albatros B.I in Vienna was: RE by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:38:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Captured SPAD VII Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDAFF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brent, > What happened? Did the secret handshake change? There wasn't > one response to > my question concerning the SPAD VII captured and flown by > Jasta 4. Do any > pictures exist for this aircraft? > Matt was ignoring you for wanting to build a French aircraft in German markings Everyone else was ignoring you for wanting to build a French aircraft, period. What's so unusual about that ? ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:52:15 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Captured SPAD VII Message-ID: <00c401c1aaa9$edbbfe40$fb7116d5@netcabo.pt> Brent The SPAD VII aces book by osprey features 2 photographs of captured SPAD VII that were flown by germans. According to the book on one of them Ritter Von Schleich (sp) pulled quite a stunt and flew into the midst of a French SPAD formation just to see how long it would take to the French to notice the crosses on his wings. It so happens that the French were pretty quick in finding it out and he had to run to his lines only to be shot at by german AA who thought there was a French coming in.... Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:53:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Captured SPAD VII Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB01@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brent, > My only reference is the new decal sheet on Jasta 4 from A/G. > So, I don't > know if it existed or not. I just know Dr. Merrill told me so. In my experience that's a pretty good indication that it existed. *And* that A/G either has, or had, proof to that effect. In general, their instructions will say so if there's *any* element of speculation in any scheme. Of course, like everyone else, they sometimes need to modify things in the light of new information, but that sort of thing tends to happen with schemes that were already flagged as potentially incorrect in some way. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:53:36 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was Message-ID: > > Otherwise, I don't think that size were an important factor. > > D. > > a mere 16 cm. > > *WAY* too much information..... > Remember: NEVER believe everything that a journalist writes! There is always only a certain percetange of truth contained in the information. Gasterix www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:01:11 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48 Nieuport detail set #212 Message-ID: <001b01c1aaab$2d7a3dc0$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> Riordan I have a Smer and an Aurora Nie.11. LMK sp > available in exchange for Smer Bebe (Nie. 11). Set includes spoked > wheels, stitching, prop boss, throttle, lap belts, access panels, seat & > support etc. and even Vickers gun parts & Lewis drum detail. If > interested, please contact me off list. > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:02:15 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48 Nieuport detail set #212 Message-ID: <001f01c1aaab$530ee860$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> Sorry, D-A here forgot to change the addy line before hitting send. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:09:12 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Models to Pass on to the List Message-ID: <3C59CE98.670E3364@earthlink.net> Yes, Sam was up to no good, but I don't know if Bugs can be considered innocent. I believe the quote was "Nobody will vote for a flattened-out rabbit hide"... Brent Theobald wrote: > Howdy! > > >This year's first 'Good Joe' award goes to Brent. > > > >"I like you, rabbit. You're a good joe." > > > >-Yosemite Sam, ~1949 > > I have a bad feeling about this... Isn't that the one where Sam ends up > trying to shoot the innocent bunny? > > Hah hah! > > Later! > > Brent > > still building: Pegasus Halberstadt D.II > waiting to build: Gotha G.III - I'm waiting for my Waldrun punch set. > fiddling with: Aeromaster Re.8, Blue Max Brisfit > Now reading: ot Enemy at the Gates > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:17:43 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: OT reading alert Message-ID: <013b01c1aaad$7cde6ba0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> While we're ironically on the subject of large scale reproductions, the ultimate in modeling. The latest edition of KITPLANES magazine has a report on one of these 7/8 Nieu. s at an airshow in Gardner Mo. along with a full scale SE-5 and another 66% Fok D-VIII. AND!!! A great article on the building of the 1:1 Vickers Vimy. Has a fantastic side bar on just how damned hard this beast is to fly. tom S chiming in at just long enough, so my wife tells me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:16:35 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Scratch FE 8? Message-ID: Recall seing a scratch-built FE 8 in my internet wanderings, but can't find it now that I need it. I'm planning to scratch a DH2 in 1/32 and need pointers on VACing the nose. Also need info on markings/serial for Lanoe Hawker's DH2. Thanks, Rob _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:17:12 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Scratch FE 8? Message-ID: <32.21a53934.298b3889@aol.com> Rob, The recently released Osprey "British and Empire Aces of World War I" has a profile labeled: Airco D.H.2 flown by Major L.G. Hawker of the No. 24 Sqn RFC, 1916. It does not show a number. FMP's "DeHavilland Aircraft of World War 1, Vol. 1" has two profiles of 24 Sqn DH-2s, nos. 5930 and 6000. A quick look didn't turn up any photos of Hawker and his DH-2. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Thu, 31 Jan 2002 6:25:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, "robert owens" writes: > Recall seing a scratch-built FE 8 in my internet wanderings, but can't find > it now that I need it. I'm planning to scratch a DH2 in 1/32 and need > pointers on VACing the nose. Also need info on markings/serial for Lanoe > Hawker's DH2. Thanks, Rob > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:28:52 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scratch FE 8? Message-ID: <3C59E144.32CAF00E@verizon.net> Hawker's DH2 was 5964 in standard 24 squadron livery. When I finish my current Eduard Albatros D.II in Richthofen's markings I'm goind to do my second Blue Max DH 2 as Hawker's. Oh boy another 107 individual rigging wires. Fun! Alvie CoolSpadLuke@aol.com wrote: > Rob, > > The recently released Osprey "British and Empire Aces of World War I" has a profile labeled: Airco D.H.2 flown by Major L.G. Hawker of the No. 24 Sqn RFC, 1916. It does not show a number. > > FMP's "DeHavilland Aircraft of World War 1, Vol. 1" has two profiles of 24 Sqn DH-2s, nos. 5930 and 6000. A quick look didn't turn up any photos of Hawker and his DH-2. > > HTH, > Mike Kavanaugh > > In a message dated Thu, 31 Jan 2002 6:25:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, "robert owens" writes: > > > Recall seing a scratch-built FE 8 in my internet wanderings, but can't find > > it now that I need it. I'm planning to scratch a DH2 in 1/32 and need > > pointers on VACing the nose. Also need info on markings/serial for Lanoe > > Hawker's DH2. Thanks, Rob > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:41:58 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: Fokker Anthology Question Message-ID: <002901c1aab9$41afda80$1c3819d0@f4hn201> I just got the 1/32 Battle Axe Fokker D.VII. It is about the quality level of very early Eduard, rough limited run injected molding, fair quality PE, and suspect lozenge decals. It has cowls for only early and late Fokker variants. I need to compare it to some drawings but I don't have any of the datafiles. Ideally, I would like to buy the Anthology version that has ALL of the drawings for the many manufacturers (but I am obviously most interested in Fokker built), I am less interested in profiles. So which version do I buy? TIA -------------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:31:06 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scratch FE 8? Message-ID: <101252420901@smtp.vphos.net> Or ... take a look at the CD. I have Hawker's 5964 on it. There are a few things that should be changed in light of new information. Gravity tank should be on top of the wing, nacelle may have grey metalwork not PC10 Bob > "robert owens" writes: > >> Recall seing a scratch-built FE 8 in my internet wanderings, but can't find >> it now that I need it. I'm planning to scratch a DH2 in 1/32 and need >> pointers on VACing the nose. Also need info on markings/serial for Lanoe >> Hawker's DH2. Thanks, Rob >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:54:01 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Hi-Tech 1/48 AEG G.IV WW I German Bomber in Stock! Message-ID: <002a01c1aaba$f1780c20$a100decf@i7e2z6> I ordered one right away as well, anyone have one in their sweaty palms yet and care to comment? :-) Gabe ----- Original Message ----- From: Courtney Allen To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:45 PM Subject: [WWI] Hi-Tech 1/48 AEG G.IV WW I German Bomber in Stock! > Did anyone notice that Squadron has the Hi-Tech 1/48 AEG G.IV WW I German > Bomber in stock and being shipped! I have one on order. Can't wait to see > it. > > Courtney > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:57:55 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line Message-ID: <004001c1aabb$7d1021a0$a100decf@i7e2z6> Gaston, I heard somewhere (on a t.v. program) that MvR was 5'6". Gabe ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaston Graf To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: [WWI] tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line > > > > about the flying Nieuport kits.....most of those flying real > > people around > > are 7/8 scale based on graham Lee plans. Put a rotax in it an > > off you go. I > > bought the full scale Nieuport plans for a look see and to pass > > by my local > > EAA chapter. It should fit a pilot up to 6'2", do 100 Kts > > cruise with a 65 > > HP rotax, and take approx 800 to 1000 hrs to build. Im > > tempted...most are > > built without engine for as little as 8000 to 12 000 US without > > engine. With > > engine add about 6 to 9000 more. Not bad for a flying WW1 replica. > > Huh, that means I would still have some air left in the cockpit with my > 6'1"... Does anybody have details about the sizes of real WW1 pilots? On > pictures of the Richthofen bros, one can see clearly that Lothar was taller > than his "big" brother Manfred was but he sure was not too tall to fit into > a Dr.1. What about other? Captain Eddy does not appear to have been a little > man either - and he flew Nieuports. Was the ac of the tall pilots maybe > build to fit their size? > > After Achim Engels, the costs for the materials to build a Dr.1 are not that > expensive and should stay within the 12 000$ limit. As usual, the most > expensive thing will be the engine. A genuine URII in good condition can > easily cost around 35 000$, plus the insturments. > > Oh and speaking about sizes, this reminds me a radio converstaion I've heard > in Thionville a while ago. Marie - the signal lady at the signal tower of > Thionville station - had asked a French engineer with her very clear voice: > "driver, can you give me your length please? > "Uhmmm......17cm" > "Please say again" > "DIX-SEPT CENTIMÈTRES" (seventeen centimeters = something close to 7") He > spoke very slowly and I was almost ROTFLMAO. > > all quite for a while > > then Marie said: > "driver, can you give me the length of your train please" > "aaaah, that really makes a difference" > > Gaston > www.jastaboelcke.de > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:14:52 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scratch DH2 Message-ID: Bob, Mike, Alvie (et. al), info noted and appreciated. Bob, Gimme a break! I'm still drooling over the Fokkers, Albatroses, and Aviatiks, on ur CD. It could be hours (or eons) before I get to the Commonwealth Acft!! And where were "Y'all" ten years ago, when I busted my hump making the Hobbycraft Camel into Olieslager's kite, only to get the sawtooth on the cowl red/white instead of green/white??? Jeesh! All needling aside, my wife thinks we need a computer to do that face-to-face thing with friends... Ha, Ha , Ha! But one final thought, am I hallucinating the scratch FE 8? Thanks, Rob _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:08:48 EST From: EPMyles@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hi-Tech 1/48 AEG G.IV WW I German Bomber in Stock! Message-ID: >From: Todd Hayes >To: wwi@wwi-models.org >Subject: Perfect Companion for the CSM Gotha >Squadron told me my Hi-Tech AEG kit was shipped >yesterday. >Todd From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hi-Tech 1/48 AEG G.IV WW I German Bomber in Stock! >Howdy Gang, >I did call SMO today. They are shipping the Hi-Tech G.IV. I'll try and pick >one up tomorrow and let you know how it looks. >Later! >Brent Hey out there Todd, Brent and everyone: Mine was waiting at the doorstep upon my return from work this evening. Xmas a month late! Paper, packing material, and shrink wrap went flying..... Looks like a usual HiTech kit (e.g., Breguet 14, Roland D.II) - needs some flash removal, etc. I'll leave the detailed reviews to those who have seen more kits than I. I will be interested, however, in reading the comments on the rib detail of the upper wing surfaces ...... Myles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:41:49 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Scratch DH2 Message-ID: I firmly believe that the origins of all scratch builds involve a certain amount of hallucinating. Otherwise, no one would ever attempt them and the modeling gods would miss out on one of their greatest sources of amusement. ;-) Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Thu, 31 Jan 2002 8:16:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, "robert owens" writes: > (snip) > one final thought, am I hallucinating the scratch FE 8? Thanks, Rob > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:52:15 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Fokker Anthology Question Message-ID: <153.8286454.298b5cdf@aol.com> Bob, Windsock Fokker D.VII Anthology 1 is what you want for Fokker-built D.VIIs. Both Anthology 1 and 2 have profiles, but I believe Anthology 1 has more photos and drawings showing detail. Anthology 2 is mainly concerned with O.A.W.-built D.VIIs. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Thu, 31 Jan 2002 7:44:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Laskodi" writes: > I just got the 1/32 Battle Axe Fokker D.VII. It is about the quality level > of very early Eduard, rough limited run injected molding, fair quality PE, > and suspect lozenge decals. It has cowls for only early and late Fokker > variants. I need to compare it to some drawings but I don't have any of the > datafiles. Ideally, I would like to buy the Anthology version that has ALL > of the drawings for the many manufacturers (but I am obviously most > interested in Fokker built), I am less interested in profiles. So which > version do I buy? > TIA > -------------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:31:50 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scratch DH2 Message-ID: Mikey, u shud be Kavan(l)augh!!! Kidding aside, I think u r right, all of us go to bed dreaming "Damn, If I could only...." May the Modeling Gods smile on you and all those aspiring engineers/historians/craftsmen/artists whose comments grace these e-pages!! Rob _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:17:35 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Barry Berman FMP IRAS book deal Message-ID: <3C5A16DF.64FDB7D0@earthlink.net> Anyone successfully acquire the Russian book from this guy? TIA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:30:14 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was RE: RE: 1917 Lewis Gun Manual On-Line Message-ID: <00a301c1aad9$25c558c0$973dfad1@dwfjv01> Gaston, I know that when I was doing interpretation at Civil War battlefields,and working at the museum I got so tired of people telling me, "Well . . . people were so much smaller back then." Well, yes and no. Smaller doesn't always translate into shorter. I have seen original CW uniforms that would fit a man of moderate size, but had such a small chest size that a modern child would barely be able to get into it. My old boss at the museum also mentioned a study he had seen where an individual did a comparison study of the heights and weights of a company/regiment of Ohio soldiers, and a random selection of males from our time. There was a height difference, but not nearly as great as you might think. There WAS a much more substantial weight difference. That is easily understood considering how much time people here spend in front of the TV eating junk. I know a few years back that Great War Militaria printed out on the back of their reproduction catalog the "size spread" of 1,000 US Army uniform tunics. This would show, for the most part, the size of the average male of military age since the Army would not have contracted for uniforms they could not use. The great majority were size 36" to 38" chest, with a relative, and smaller number on either side of that in 34" and 40" chests. >From there, the incidence of larger and smaller sizes drops off quite dramatically. One saw many fewer size 42's and hardly any 44" at all. I hope this may shed some light on the subject. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:36:54 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: tall men and their tiny little flying machines was Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB05@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Warren > out on the back > of their reproduction catalog the "size spread" of 1,000 US Army uniform > tunics. This would show, for the most part, the size of the average male of > military age since the Army would not have contracted for uniforms they > could not use. The great majority were size 36" to 38" chest, with a > relative, and smaller number on either side of that in 34" > and 40" chests. > >From there, the incidence of larger and smaller sizes drops off quite > dramatically. One saw many fewer size 42's and hardly any 44" at all. I > hope this may shed some light on the subject. Bear in mind that the purchasers will have erred on the side of buying larger than necessary. A soldier in an oversized greatcoat looks silly, but stays warm, in the reverse he looks silly and freezes. FWIW in my Army career the joke was that all uniforms were avialble in two sizes - #2large and #2small Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:57:03 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: OT Book from 1916 Message-ID: Hi Everyone; I was looking through an old book store here in Melbourne on the weekend and bought an American 'boys own' air adventure book published in 1916. The title is "Our Young Aeroplane Scouts In England" by (IRC) J.L. Porter. Cast includes a young American pilot, his French ace sidekick, and the ever faithful Sgt.. Other titles mentioned on the frontispiece include "Our Young Aeroplane Scouts In.....(1) France, (2) Russia, (3) Germany, (4) Egypt" . My one sees our intrepid heroes tackling the Zeppelin menace and joining a hand-picked group of predominantly French(!) fliers who are brought in to tackle the zepps by the RFC (who seem unable to do it themselves). Anyone know anything else about this series? I would'nt mind catching up with the others - they are a hoot to read - full of "husky subalterns", "plucky sergeants" etc. All the best Neil E _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:09:00 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Wings Level Message-ID: <00f101c1aade$901a7840$973dfad1@dwfjv01> > I'm re-subscribed again, and recieving posts from the list. New location, > bigger desk and better coffee!! It's good to be back. > Greg That Greg! Puttin' the "ogue" in "Pogue". Warren A fromer consumer of pogey bait in the field. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:45:18 -0800 From: "Mike Franklin" To: Subject: Albatros Font again Message-ID: <000501c1aae3$a27bb940$8becfc9e@picker> Do not be shy, send for your free True Type Font of Albatros Serial Numbers. Only 10 have asked for it, and they got it pretty pronto. And, yes, I'm looking into doing a Nieuport Serial Number Font. Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA USA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:51:53 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Albatros Font again Message-ID: Hi Mike; I missed this thread - are these 1/48 or 1/72? (hoping they are 1/72). Also, how will you send them? All the Best Neil E _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. 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If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:00:38 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: Re: Crowood book Message-ID: <20020201060356.YXGL16355.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> To be more specific the Crowood is 168 pages. It has chapters on the Early Sopwiths, Schneider and Baby, 1 1/2 Strutter, Pup, Triplanes including some picture of the other Triplanes. F1 Camel, Shipboard Sopwiths (the 2F1 Camel is covered here), Dolphin, Snipe and Dragon, Ground Attack Sopwiths (Camel TF1, Salamander TF2, Buffalo), There is a chapter on the final Sopwiths including ones built in 1919. There are sections on Serials but for the more widely produced aircraft these are blocks of numbers. There are histories on the individual early aircraft and some of the final aircraft. The Rainbow for example. This book is highly recommended along with the RAF and Airco books. They are not as detailed as say the Camel file or SE5 files, but then these books cover an entire manufacturer. Couple these books with say the datafiles and you have a very good set of references imho. The only one of these books i have had a problem with is the Fokker book, but I think that might be the fact that I take issue with the author for rehashing much of Weyls has misleadingly written. In fact the author even states he used Weyls book and research. On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:38:54 -0500 (EST), Steven Wood wrote: >Does the Crowood Sopwith book go into the combat details of specific >aircraft and serial numbers, like the Camel File book? > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:41:40 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: ot Hard Days Work WAS : Re: Albatros B.I in Vienna was: RE Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDB0A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Diego worries: > "A large Box jellyfish contains enough poison to kill 60 adults > The Box jellyfish can kill an adult in four minutes. (snip) > Well, after all, Shane's snorkeling tour doesn't look as fanciful as > before... ;-) > Be careful mate! Never saw a one. And I find out that the English tourist who *died* yesterday after being stung on Wednesday was stung by an Irukandji which is a small relative of the Box Jelly. They usually don't come so far down the coast and while they're dangerous he's the first known fatality - from a pre-existing heart condition. Poor bugger.... Mike worries too: > Don't know whether your mask is > prescription ground, if not, you better take a seeing-eye > guide with you on the dives. LOL - I used soft contacts, which gave me sore eyes as I rarely use them nowadays. > I have found you will need the > extra bottle of sunscreen . . . the elderly configuration > usually requires more of the same as the surface area to be > protected grows. Yah, three bottles, two for the body and an extra for the top of my head. In fact the only (slight) burn I got was on my right arm, driving back to Mackay to take a flight home. Ray was worried I'd look like a lobster - but not this time! Mark is jealous: > I, for one, am EXTREMLY jealous > Anybody who has done any snorkeling knows that the great > barrier reef is supposed to be the ultimate destination. I've only ever snorkeled on the reef here, and along the NZ coastline. Dunno about elsewhere, but if it comes better than where I spent yesterday, then it's gotta be unbelievable. Had wonderful conditions and never saw so many varieties of fish even in an aquarium. If you like diving/snorkelling - come visit. SP wants a ticket: > About a couple hundred of his Northern modeling buddies to > share the fun & sun with him ;-) Hell. Can you imagine 250 (or whatever we number now) of this crew disporting themselves semi naked and simultaneous. Now *I* am - to put it mildly - a revolting sight, but do you really want to see the whole lot of us so attired? (bear in mind that those frightened of the jellyfish will probably be wearing ladies nylon stockings!!) Tom needs no aircon: > We are under a Winter Storm Watch/Warning/Etc. with freezing > rain, snow, more freezing rain, more snow, etc. > Sure makes me feel good knowing you are having a hard, cold > and rough time of it. Would a postcard from the reef warm you some? Neil is an enthusiast: >> what more could an aging modeller want? > > To be modelling! Agreed ! Just as soon as I get outta here in an 20 minutes I'm off home for a busy modelling weekend! Just what a hard week at work deserves - a lazy modelling weekend. Incidentally, I fly to Darwin on Monday morning for a couple of days in Crocdile Dundee territory. I will NOT be swimming up there, cos the crocs are bigger and hungrier than I. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. 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