WWI Digest 4113 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Updates by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by "ibs4421" 4) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by "Ross Moorhouse" 5) Re: Colors by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 6) Re: Colors by KnnthS@aol.com 7) Re: Colors by "ibs4421" 8) re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV by "Brent Theobald" 9) Re: Colors (Testors approximations) by Rory Goodwin 10) Jacques Allez's Nie. 17 by Rory Goodwin 11) Eduard Roland C.IIa by Todd Hayes 12) Re: Eduard Roland C.IIa by REwing@aol.com 13) No Digests? by jasta@webtv.net (Steven Wood) 14) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by PetersList@aol.com 15) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by PetersList@aol.com 16) RE: WWI digest 4112 by "Nigel Rayner" 17) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by "Ross Moorhouse" 18) Pre-folded P.E. will aircraft kit makers follow suit..... by "Ross Moorhouse" 19) RE: Pre-folded P.E. will aircraft kit makers follow suit... by "Pedro N. Soares" 20) RE: Updates by "Steven Perry" 21) back on the saddle again by "Diego Fernetti" 22) OT News by "Gaston Graf" 23) R: back on the saddle again by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 24) RE: OT News by Crawford Neil 25) RE: back on the saddle again by Crawford Neil 26) RE: Pegasus news by Crawford Neil 27) RE: OT News by "Gaston Graf" 28) RE: Pegasus news by "Matt Bittner" 29) RE: R: back on the saddle again by "Diego Fernetti" 30) oops! by "Diego Fernetti" 31) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by Scottfking@aol.com 32) Revell D-VII by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 33) Contest in Sao Paulo - The report by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 34) R: RE: R: back on the saddle again by a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it 35) Re: back on the saddle again by "ibs4421" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:05:39 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Updates Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/02 4:20:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Ger/Alb_BI/AlbBIstrebe.jpg This is easily the best photo demonstration I've seen of why raised ribs on the underside of period wings are *usually* wrong. Probably the B.I has fairly highly undercambered wings which accentuates the effect, and the absence of rib tapes to partially disguise things is helpfull >> Eerie- this has been a family discussion around the house the last couple of days. The Kid and his "work gang" at school are building a wind tunnel for their science project. They need an assorment of sections, so Kid took the wing drawings from the NASM Albatros book, enlarged them three times and built a 6 rib section of the wing. Today he slopped on some medium weight silkspan and when it dried- there was that ever-so-hard to demonstrate shape that fabric assumes when it goes up under the camber. I kept jumping up and down and telling "See! See! there it is! That wierd thing about fabric that no kit has been able to exactly capture!" RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:05:40 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <113.b8efc76.29861a04@aol.com> In a message dated 1/27/02 9:27:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, PetersList@aol.com writes: << << It has a pilot figure, oversized guns and thick struts, a' la Aurora.... >> That's a fair diescription of the old Aurora kit and it's clones, but not the Monogram re-tooling which has improned detailing and particularly fine struts.I'm still hopeful, but hanging on to some of my DML stash just in case ;) cheers Peter L >> I've never sat down at the ol' drawing table and worked with the Aurora fuselage, but there's a revisionist view going round that it's more accurate than the DML. The DML wings are on the money though. Some guy wanted to do up a resin wing correction set and wanted me to make the master. I grabbed a DML set of wings and set to work using everything I find about D.VII wings- 20 years worth of WW I Aero, the various Albatros Pubs plus bits and pieces of junk I've gathered over the decades. After getting a pretty good drawing of my own worked up, it turned out the DML wings are as close to exact as any kit part is ever likely to be, aside from a needed nick here and a scrape there with a file to take care of a few errant minor curves and edges. The guy wasn't too happy. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:12:44 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <003e01c1a7a9$a8609ca0$793dfad1@dwfjv01> > If this is true this could mean that the DML D.VIIs sold on ebay will go up > in price even futher. !^( > > Ross Just walk towards the light Ross. In 1/72nd there are a great many DVII's available now for MUCH less than a DML DVIII. Leave the "dark side" Ross, walk towards the light. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:18:50 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <008401c1a7aa$81de6840$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> But I am happy to model in either 1/48th or 1/72nd. So click, off goes the light ;-) Ross.. Its takes more than those mind games young Darth.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ibs4421" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII > > > > If this is true this could mean that the DML D.VIIs sold on ebay will go > up > > in price even futher. !^( > > > > Ross > > Just walk towards the light Ross. In 1/72nd there are a great many DVII's > available now for MUCH less than a DML DVIII. Leave the "dark side" Ross, > walk towards the light. > > Warren > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:28:28 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Colors Message-ID: <176.2bcd75a.29861f5c@aol.com> Oh well, it's a slow Sunday night here so here goes. . . Matt, I'm not riled in the least. You are so unpredictable. How could you ever conceive a "color" section for the WWI site and have the imagination to start it off with some French five color stuff? I would have expected perhaps a pedestrian treatment of some NIVO, PC-10, PC-12 or even some examples of the German varnished over "sky blue" or "turquoise" controversy. With whatever respect is due high school economics teachers, I believe the eternal Voss' cowl color debate to be highly entertaining and it cannot be ignored! It has assumed proportions akin to the question, "What is the meaning of life?" I am amused to see the lengths to which advocates will go in trying to prove their case. Of course, the foregoing is in jest. It will be interesting to see if or how, you exercise editorial judgment/control regarding some of the more controversial color questions. Good luck! Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sun, 27 Jan 2002 9:35:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Matt Bittner" writes: > Oh, to get everyone riled up. ;-) > > Well, thanks to Tomasz and a wild hair, I added a "Colors" > section to the site. While there isn't a lot up there yet, I see > it growing in the foreseable future. > > I wanted some place to put Tomasz' wonderful French five-color > PDF files, and looking over the site I noticed - in general - > there was no place that specifically catered to colors. So, I > made one. ;-) Here's the direct link: > http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/Colors/index.html > > Like I said, I see this area growing. There was some information > already there that I added, plus a link to my Polly Scale French > five-color page on top of links to Tomasz' files. If anyone has > anything to contribute, then by all means go right ahead. As in > everything WW1-ish, it's a definite area for debate. > > However, one thing I will *not* add, is whether Voss' cowl was > yellow, olive or red... As my high school economics teacher used > to say, I couldn't give three flying dead bears... :-) > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:43:08 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Colors Message-ID: <14b.7ea6da9.298622cc@aol.com> The High School Teacher writes: << I couldn't give three flying dead bears... >> yes. But what color is it if they when they do it in the woods? -O. Rootie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:58:33 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Colors Message-ID: <00c101c1a7b0$0ee42540$793dfad1@dwfjv01> Every time I go there to view the French Five-color stuff Matt put up there, my PC locks up. It shouldn't do that. God is trying to tell me to build just German and British a/c methinks. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 04:11:55 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV Message-ID: Howdy! >I though maybe we could try that with the CSM Gotha! What!?! You mean we're not? I thought I was winning too! The fuselage still isn't closed, but I am closer all the time. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:30:15 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Colors (Testors approximations) Message-ID: <3C54E1E7.67BAEAD2@earthlink.net> Who's riled? Before torturing yourself with mixing, try these Testor's colors: Chesnut Brown ~ WWII Italian Dk. Brown/FS? Light Green ~ Pale Green/FS34227+ silver or metalizer Dk. Green ~ Euro I Dk. Green/FS34092 Beige ~ ? maybe Tan/FS20400 These are not merely my WAGs (wild-assed guesses), but based on relatively close examination of fabric samples from U.S. Aero Sq. Nieuport 28s and SPAD 13s at the San Diego Aerospace Musem (admittedly under less than ideal lighting conditions)l, followed by color studies with Testor's and other colors on templates from the Butterly articles. The Light Green is surprisingly light and has a decidely metallic sheen to it which may not be an issue in 1/72nd... I have already sprayed the Italian Dk. Brown on a Smer Nie. 11, and it looks good to me. If WWII German colors are descended from the Great War, then also perhaps WWII French colors? FWIW Matt Bittner wrote: > Oh, to get everyone riled up. ;-) > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:33:11 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Jacques Allez's Nie. 17 Message-ID: <3C54E297.E0600F77@earthlink.net> is pictured on pg. 383 of the French FMP book. Anyone have any other photos or bio info ? TIA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:28:51 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Eduard Roland C.IIa Message-ID: <20020128052851.10728.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All, I don't know if anyone's noticed yet, but Rosemont is advertising the new Roland as available. $22.49. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 01:10:40 EST From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Eduard Roland C.IIa Message-ID: <174.2c217c1.29864560@aol.com> Todd wrote: "I don't know if anyone's noticed yet, but Rosemont is advertising the new Roland as available. $22.49." Got mine the other day, but not at that price. Only one color scheme, but a very nice kit. Some day I'll get it built! -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 00:20:49 -0600 (CST) From: jasta@webtv.net (Steven Wood) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: No Digests? Message-ID: <7901-3C54EDC1-169@storefull-113.iap.bryant.webtv.net> I have not received any Digests for several days. Am I off the list or is something wrong? Steven ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 02:08:29 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: In a message dated 28/01/02 03:07:26 GMT Standard Time, KarrArt@aol.com writes: <> Nah! Been there, done that. It starts by being way over scale so shortening, narrowing and reducing i depth are the first order of the day. After that everything else. Except that the struts are nicer I might as well have started with the SMER kit. And the wings on my model are about 50% miliput cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 03:42:50 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <136.7feb6cb.2986690a@aol.com> In a message dated 28/01/02 01:16:44 GMT Standard Time, sm5192@verizon.net writes: << Having finally looked at the picture and comparing what I saw to a DML D.VII kit right here by the computer, I believe it is indeed the DML Kit. The thick struts are where they replaced photoetched interplane struts with injection molded ones. The propeller is definitely that of the DML kit. I'm very encouraged by this. >> Then it must be a composite model because the wings are certainly not DML. To me it looks like a SMER kit still clutching at straws Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:02:34 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: WWI digest 4112 Message-ID: <000001c1a7da$8657e1a0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Peter L asked: >I also note a skill factor of 4 but have been >unable to find the SE5 on site to make a comparison. According to the Revell Germany site, the SE5a is skill level 3, more evidence pointing tothe Fokker DVII being of DML origin (if that is indeed a 4). Cheers, Nigel R. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:09:15 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <006401c1a7db$7a498700$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Come April and we will all know for sure what it's heritage is when it's released. ;-) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:44 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII > In a message dated 28/01/02 01:16:44 GMT Standard Time, sm5192@verizon.net > writes: > > << Having finally looked at the picture and comparing what I saw to a DML > D.VII kit > right here by the computer, I believe it is indeed the DML Kit. The thick > struts > are where they replaced photoetched interplane struts with injection molded > ones. > The propeller is definitely that of the DML kit. I'm very encouraged by > this. >> > > > Then it must be a composite model because the wings are certainly not DML. To > me it looks like a SMER kit > > still clutching at straws > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:41:19 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Pre-folded P.E. will aircraft kit makers follow suit..... Message-ID: <006f01c1a7df$f09dbee0$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> I read a reveiw today that said the latest AFV kit by AFV Club comes with pre-folded P.E. parts. Will this spread to say Eduard with their P.E. bits? No more having to roll it for the MG jackets. Or would this take some of the fun,fumble factor out of kit building?? Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:40:53 -0000 From: "Pedro N. Soares" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Pre-folded P.E. will aircraft kit makers follow suit... Message-ID: <12AEB3D996DDD311B98A00508B6D75B3013AC3DE@TUFAO> Yeah. One day they'll send the all kit perfectly assembled so everybody can get a prize at the Nationals.... Oh boy, How I admire guys like Alberto... Pedro -----Original Message----- From: Ross Moorhouse [mailto:rossmoor@bigpond.net.au] Sent: segunda-feira, 28 de Janeiro de 2002 9:41 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Pre-folded P.E. will aircraft kit makers follow suit..... I read a reveiw today that said the latest AFV kit by AFV Club comes with pre-folded P.E. parts. Will this spread to say Eduard with their P.E. bits? No more having to roll it for the MG jackets. Or would this take some of the fun,fumble factor out of kit building?? Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:55:39 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: Updates Message-ID: <009801c1a7ea$535bde40$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> That wierd thing about fabric that > no kit has been able to exactly capture!" Haven't tried this, but would it be possible to emboss the top ribs from the inside of the skin and then turn the card over and emboss the underside ribs lightly from what would be the outside of the skin. Have you tried this Robert? sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:08:05 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: back on the saddle again Message-ID: <00e301c1a7ec$0f86d6a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey guys! I'm back to the usual battle station. During the vacations I finally managed to complete the rigging of a Sopwith Camel and as the original Academy propeller was too weak, I added my first hand-carved wood propeller. It was a pleasure to make! (I'll take pictures of this as promised, Pedro!) Also the Albatros D.II is done, even after the interplane struts were damaged on the closing stages when I picked it up a bit roughly. I replaced the bent struts with Strutz and now it looks as good as new. I drew, I painted, I sanded wings, I glued guillotine parts, I've danced, and slipped the surly bonds of earth and done a hundred things you have not dreamed of... Now I'm back to work. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:09:19 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: OT News Message-ID: Friends, got the new issue of the German "Fliegermagazin" yesterday and found some interesting OT news inside. Mikael Carlson, a commercial pilot from Sweden is about to finish his rebuild of a very nice Fokker D.VII. He has build the ac as accurate as ever possible. It will be powered by an original 160hp Mercedes D.IIIa engine that he found in Norway where it was waiting 60 long years for its reincarnation. After WW1 it was powering the Marine Trainer MF-8 until it was send to rest at a farm where it now was discovered. I don't know what an MF-8 trainer is so our Scandinavian members may add additional information about this. It is said the D.VII is almost completed. Only the engine needs to be fitted after it was completely overhauled. There are two pictures in the magazine. One shows the fuselage without wings and canvas with the pilot in the seat and the other shows the ac completed with wings but still no canvas on the fuselage. The wings and tail are lozenge covered, tail fin and rudder are white. There was already an article about Mikael Carlson in an issue of the past year, featuring his beautiful Blériot XI from Swedish production. The Febraury issue of the Aeroplane magazine features a fantastic 5 pate article about the Shuttleworth Bristol MC.1. The article comes with a lot of very nice color pictures and describes the construstion of this masterpiece in detail. A must read for everybody interested into WW1 aircraft. Happy landings! Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:06:47 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: back on the saddle again Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F043D@SERVER1> It sounds as nice holidays, Diego, well done ! And welcome back ! Alberto Casirati -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Diego Fernetti Inviato: lunedì 28 gennaio 2002 12.09 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] back on the saddle again Hey guys! I'm back to the usual battle station. During the vacations I finally managed to complete the rigging of a Sopwith Camel and as the original Academy propeller was too weak, I added my first hand-carved wood propeller. It was a pleasure to make! (I'll take pictures of this as promised, Pedro!) Also the Albatros D.II is done, even after the interplane struts were damaged on the closing stages when I picked it up a bit roughly. I replaced the bent struts with Strutz and now it looks as good as new. I drew, I painted, I sanded wings, I glued guillotine parts, I've danced, and slipped the surly bonds of earth and done a hundred things you have not dreamed of... Now I'm back to work. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:32:46 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: OT News Message-ID: Thanks Gaston, nice to hear that the DVII is getting close to finished. Mikael Carlsson is a genius! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:34:46 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: back on the saddle again Message-ID: And about time too! It's been a bit boring after lunch;-) /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:52:15 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Pegasus news Message-ID: Didn't say anything about the Spad VII :-( /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:53:53 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: OT News Message-ID: I guess he's one of the people to contact when the time will come to start planning on my Dr.1 Project. There was another report about a Dr.1 that is about to be finished in Italy. I think that was published in a last years issue of either the Aeroplane magazine, or the "Fliegermagazin". IIrc, the Dr.1 will be finished in the colors of Carl Bolle. I think of the D.VII as an alternative to the Dr.1 in case it won't be possible to find an engine for the Dr.1. Achim Engels said there are still more Mercedes or BMW engines available for the Dr.1 than there are rotaries for the Dr.1. And off course the D.VII should be easier to fly than the flying gyroscope on thriple wings. But the D.VII will be more complicated to build since it included a lot of different ribs, while the Dr.1 had about 60 ribs all of the same size. ot news: I had informed the Aeroplane Magazine of the death of Tony Jonsson, Icelandic WWII Ace who passed away on December 30, 2001. Now Micheal Oackley replied to me, telling me they plan to bring a report about him in the next issue if possible. I guess the people in Iceland will be very happy about this. Tally-Ho! Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > Crawford Neil > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:35 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: OT News > > > Thanks Gaston, nice to hear that the DVII is getting close > to finished. Mikael Carlsson is a genius! > /Neil C. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:58:40 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Pegasus news Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 06:53:26 -0500 (EST), Crawford Neil wrote: > Didn't say anything about the Spad VII :-( Probably won't be released until late Spring, at the earliest. Which is good, because it gives Omega to get a small "hold" on the market before hand. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:59:00 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: R: back on the saddle again Message-ID: <014301c1a7f3$2c745ec0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks caro Alberto! I've been checking the net quite often while I was on holidays (I've not traveled this year) and I saw the new pictures of your models with great admiration. I also received a note from Mr. Rimell who told me that a modelling tip that I sent for his mag was appointed to be used on the next issue and in payment he'll send a Gotha G.IV! I'm very glad Best regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:02:48 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: oops! Message-ID: <015801c1a7f3$b6d6b360$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sorry list, the latest message was intended for Alberto only. Seems like my brain/finger connections are still rusty. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:12:56 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <20.22e0e271.29869a48@aol.com> In a message dated 1/27/02 7:23:38 AM EST, gronczewski@post.pl writes: << More bad news. SAMI lists Revell Fokker as 'ex Aurora kit' :o((( >> If that is the case, it will probably mean that in the long run Revell will never release any more WWI kits, whether they are new tooling or ex Aurora. scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:57:00 -0600 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Revell D-VII Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A24907803EC9561@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Greetings all, I have a Monogram D-VII that I built before joining this list, and its upper wing is upswept at the ends. I don't see that in the Revell photo. Was this upsweep common to all Monogram models, or were there different revisions of it? FWIW, HTH, YMMMV, LSMFT, etc. Ken Zelnick 0 BS MS PhD (Three degrees below zero) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:01:51 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Contest in Sao Paulo - The report Message-ID: <00be01c1a80c$b76de0f0$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Hello, folks! Last Friday was a holiday here, city anniversary. So GSPM, one of the two modeling groups in Sao Paulo city, had its open contest from 25th to 27th. I went there on all days and had much fun. Lots and lots of nice works, which shows the high quality of Brazilian modelers. Among all beautiful things I saw there, I'd like to tell you about a (ot warning) 1/72 F-14 built by a 6-y.o. girl. Not the most perfect thing of the world, of course, but the painting job was great. "Great-period", not "great-for-a-girl-with-her-age". Next to the model there was a picture with the little girl paiting the jet with an airbrush. I hope one day God blesses me with children like her... :-)))))) Now to the OT category. Once again we had a split for WWI and biplanes, which means we also had non-WWI models competing in this category. 10 models, including one from Spanish Civil War and a Boeing biplane painted in Brazilian markings. All others were WWI: my Fokker and Pfalz, a Heller Roland C.II by unknown modeler, the habitue Sopwith Camel which won the category (I see this model since Campinas contest in August) and 5 kits by Luiz Claudio (you remember him from December contest): the new entries by him were two MAC Phonix. The others were the LVG (2nd place), the Hannover and, hm, memory starts to fail. I'll tell you when I remember. Unfortunately our friend Adriano Baumgartner couldn't come, but he had wonderful reasons, since luck is smiling to him in his job and he's flying a lot now – Adriano, I hope you don't mind that I'm telling this to the list, but folks will be happy to know! I got not a medal, but a small bottle of Future brought by Luiz Claudio! And my two little birds received many compliments from Mr. François Durand, a very funny Frenchman who writes the build reviews for "Asas" magazine. Guess what is going to his bench soon... the Gotha G.V! Also had the pleasure of meeting Edney Pin from Campinas and Sidney Pagotto from Rio Claro. Both got the WWI virus and are building a D.VII and a Dr.I respectively. I'm helping both with references and Edney said he may write to the List with some questions to be answered off-list. Sidney is also director of Rio Claro modeling club and he told me that the special category in aviation for their contest in November will be "biplanes" (WWI or not). Already in my agenda: another contest in Sao Paulo on Feb. 23rd-24th, and in distant Catanduva, Mar. 10th. You want pictures, I know. Me too. They are already in laboratory - another one, after the disaster with the pink pictures of December contest. All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:50:04 +0100 From: a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it To: Subject: R: RE: R: back on the saddle again Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E90F043F@SERVER1> Well done, Diego ! You really deserve the prize ! Alberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]Per conto di Diego Fernetti Inviato: lunedì 28 gennaio 2002 13.00 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] RE: R: back on the saddle again Thanks caro Alberto! I've been checking the net quite often while I was on holidays (I've not traveled this year) and I saw the new pictures of your models with great admiration. I also received a note from Mr. Rimell who told me that a modelling tip that I sent for his mag was appointed to be used on the next issue and in payment he'll send a Gotha G.IV! I'm very glad Best regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:20:19 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: back on the saddle again Message-ID: <005601c1a806$eaac11e0$9c3dfad1@dwfjv01> Amigo, Welcome back! Yer Pard, Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 5:09 AM Subject: [WWI] back on the saddle again > Hey guys! > I'm back to the usual battle station. During the vacations I finally managed > to complete the rigging of a Sopwith Camel and as the original Academy > propeller was too weak, I added my first hand-carved wood propeller. It was > a pleasure to make! (I'll take pictures of this as promised, Pedro!) > Also the Albatros D.II is done, even after the interplane struts were > damaged on the closing stages when I picked it up a bit roughly. I replaced > the bent struts with Strutz and now it looks as good as new. > I drew, I painted, I sanded wings, I glued guillotine parts, I've danced, > and slipped the surly bonds of earth and done a hundred things you have not > dreamed of... > Now I'm back to work. > D. > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4113 **********************