WWI Digest 4112 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Vacform building by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 2) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by "David's Mail Lists" 3) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by PetersList@aol.com 4) Fw: OT book sale with Volume numbers by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" 5) Hi-Tech 1/48th kits by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" 6) Re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV enroute by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 7) Re: Revell DVII by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 8) re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV by Todd Hayes 9) re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV by "Brent Theobald" 10) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by "Lee M." 11) Re: OT figures by Rory Goodwin 12) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by PetersList@aol.com 13) Re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV enroute by Shane Weier 14) re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV by Todd Hayes 15) Kemph's tripes./ by "Thomas Solinski" 16) Re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV enroute by "Lee M." 17) Updates by "Matt Bittner" 18) RE: Updates by Shane Weier 19) Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 20) Colors by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Kempf's tripe(s) by "robert owens" 22) Re: Kempf's tripe(s) by "Bob Pearson" 23) Re: Colors by "Ross Moorhouse" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:44:17 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Vacform building Message-ID: <8d.12feff5e.29859672@aol.com> Lee, Try: http://www.aeroclub-models.com/Aeroclub/index.html Click on "modelling articles". HTH, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:45:09 -0600 From: "David's Mail Lists" To: Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <002101c1a762$bf88c610$0100a8c0@Jeanne> Go to Revell.de, plastic models, use their search enter fokker and you will find in the scroll down mesatb 1:48 Fokker D.VII and a picture. Looks like the ol' Monogram/Aurora kit to me. Hope I am wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII > David says: > > > > > I saw a picture of the D/VII on the Revell German Page. > > > > It does not appear to be the DML kit. :( > > > > It has a pilot figure, oversized guns and thick struts, a' la > > Aurora.... > > FWIW you *can't* post attachments here, including photos...... > > Better you post the link, since I've looked at the www.revell.de several > times in the last week, and again this morning without seeing the D.VII at > all > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 > Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:27:09 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <8f.162a5ed2.2985ae8d@aol.com> In a message dated 27/01/02 18:48:57 GMT Standard Time, davidlaytonwwi@earthlink.net writes: << Go to Revell.de, plastic models, use their search enter fokker and you will find in the scroll down mesatb 1:48 Fokker D.VII and a picture. Looks like the ol' Monogram/Aurora kit to me. Hope I am wrong. >> The kit illustrated is most definitely NOT the Dragon DVII , but is that the proposed release or a stock photograph? Actually it looks like the Smer kit rather than the Monogram. I remain optomistic,clinging to the price difference and the fact that the dimensions given are those of the DML DVII in support of my optimism. I also note a skill factor of 4 but have been unable to find the SE5 on site to make a comparison. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:39:18 -0600 From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "wwi-faq" Subject: Fw: OT book sale with Volume numbers Message-ID: <001b01c1a76a$51786060$1f32b9cc@unionrai> Someone asked for volume numbers here they are..... > The Scholars Bookshelf has a sale going on I want to pass along. > > Aviation Awards of Imperial Germany in WWI by Neil O'Connor. > The Eight Thuringian States and Anhalt Volume V list $40 sale $19.95 catalog number > 5xycd. > The Grand Duchies of Baden and Oldenburg Volume VI list $43 sale $19.95 catalog number 5xydd > Wurttembery Volume IV list $34.95 sale $17.95 catalog number 5xybd > shipping was $8.95 > phone orders 1--609-395-6933. > I just received all three yesterday and the books were packaged very well > and in perfect shape. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:02:29 -0600 From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "wwi-faq" Subject: Hi-Tech 1/48th kits Message-ID: <005b01c1a76d$8df98b60$1f32b9cc@unionrai> I have both the Br.14 and Roland DII. While not up to the speed of Eduard's current offerings they resemble Eduard's early releases, lots of PE to make up for lack of expensive injected molded machinery. Have the Roland underway interoir detail is almost nil but am using the DF on the Roland C.II as a guide. Wing rib tapes need work. Reference SAMI Volume 7 Issue 10. I'm just glad to see another 1/48th manufacturer doing OT kits. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:15:21 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV enroute Message-ID: <3C545FD8.4651B713@verizon.net> Actually, the Hi-Tech Roland I finally finished last October was pretty good. What took me forever to finish was researching the cockpit interior. I still don't know if it had a full cockpit floor or just footboards mounted over the fuel tank (the way I did it). The plastic is somewhat soft and grainy but the finished product looks quite nice. Alvie Steven Perry wrote: > > No doubt the 1/48th scalers are excited at this prospect, however, hasn't > > there been some issue with Hitech products' quality in the past? I only > > heard about them from a few "Explosive" reviews by a less than stable > > entity, so not much is really certain there. > > I saw an incompletely molded stab on an OT hi-Tech kit. Nothing a piece of > card coulsn't cure. The rest of the kit looked quite buildable. > > Of course you devoted teeny scalers can be smug, you always have the Merlin > AEG if you want an AEG.....(Veeerrrryyyy badly) > > All kits are only starting points, some just start a little farther from the > finish line than others. > sp > sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:26:40 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Revell DVII Message-ID: <3C54627F.B1E101B3@verizon.net> Was at my favorite plastic emporium yesterday and saw WWI OT figures. A german Sturmpionier and a British Highland Division Private. Very nice. I have been rather disdainful of this adult mens GI Joe line in the past but I may just have to acquire these. I'm sure if they sell we'll see aviators in the line up in due time. Alvie Rory Goodwin wrote: > If you're into Steve Volstad art, WWII German infantry, Fallschirmjager, or SS > camo in particular, these figures won't necessarily depress you. DML has > really done its homework -they're nearly museum quality miniatures suitable as > reference for modelling projects. > > PetersList@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 26/01/02 23:01:28 GMT Standard Time, > > janah@worldnet.att.net writes: > > > > A visit to the DML website is not recomended for > > anyone on anti-depressants. It's been wall to wall action figures for a > > couple of years > > cheers > > > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:41:50 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV Message-ID: <20020127204150.14710.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Well Brent, I was rained on, but it looks like there's a rainbow now judging by the latest posts. Todd --- Brent Theobald wrote: > Howdy! > > >Squadron has photos of the PE and resin parts for > the > >AEG G.IV. Looks like it might actually be almost > >ready. > > Not to rain on your parade... Those are the same > pictures they have had > posted since before Christmas. Keep waiting. > > Later! > > Brent > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 20:52:40 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV Message-ID: Howdy! >Well Brent, I was rained on, but it looks like there's >a rainbow now judging by the latest posts. No doubt! I can't wait to see it. Anyone want to race to see who can build it first? Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:04:34 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <3C546B62.5DB6B618@x25.net> Went to Revell.de adnd revell.de and that got nothing. must be the wrong URL for them. Lee M. David's Mail Lists wrote: > > Go to Revell.de, plastic models, use their search enter fokker and you will > find in the scroll down mesatb 1:48 Fokker D.VII and a picture. Looks like > the ol' Monogram/Aurora kit to me. Hope I am wrong. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shane Weier" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:09 AM > Subject: [WWI] Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII > > > David says: > > > > > > > > I saw a picture of the D/VII on the Revell German Page. > > > > > > It does not appear to be the DML kit. :( > > > > > > It has a pilot figure, oversized guns and thick struts, a' la > > > Aurora.... > > > > FWIW you *can't* post attachments here, including photos...... > > > > Better you post the link, since I've looked at the www.revell.de several > > times in the last week, and again this morning without seeing the D.VII at > > all > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > > > For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 > > Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > > Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 > > International ++61 7 38338042 > > ********************************************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:09:24 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT figures Message-ID: <3C546C84.74532A16@earthlink.net> I have to concur with Alvie. I''ve also seen the Bayonets and Barbed Wire 1/6 figures and they are truly stunning, right down to the lenses in the German Sturmpioneer's gas mask and the boodshot eyes of the Black Watch Highlander. Almost broke down and bought the set myself on Friday. "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" wrote: > Was at my favorite plastic emporium yesterday and saw WWI OT figures. A german > Sturmpionier and a British Highland Division Private. Very nice. I have been > rather disdainful of this adult mens GI Joe line in the past but I may just have > to acquire these. I'm sure if they sell we'll see aviators in the line up in due > time. > > Alvie > > Rory Goodwin wrote: > > > If you're into Steve Volstad art, WWII German infantry, Fallschirmjager, or SS > > camo in particular, these figures won't necessarily depress you. DML has > > really done its homework -they're nearly museum quality miniatures suitable as > > reference for modelling projects. > > > > PetersList@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 26/01/02 23:01:28 GMT Standard Time, > > > janah@worldnet.att.net writes: > > > > > > A visit to the DML website is not recomended for > > > anyone on anti-depressants. It's been wall to wall action figures for a > > > couple of years > > > cheers > > > > > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:18:11 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: In a message dated 27/01/02 21:05:09 GMT Standard Time, lemen@x25.net writes: << Went to Revell.de adnd revell.de and that got nothing. must be the wrong URL for them. >> Try http://www.revell.de/cgi-bin/kat/katalog.pl?cmd=search&KOSCHL=&grp=9998&ARARTN =04574&modellsuche=fokker the actual image is at http://www.revell.de/katalog/400/04574.jpg Once again, certainly not the DML as illustrated, but possibly not the Monogram either. The struts are too thick for the re-work. Clutching at straws perhaps, but I do wonder if it's just a stock photo cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:01:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV enroute Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDAD1@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael says: > Regarding "Australia day" - I was going to wish our > Australian folks a > "Happy One" when I saw it mentioned on Hyperscale. However, > I was uncertain > whether Hyperscale was having an "Australian" special - in > other words just > Australia-related topic for enjoyment, or if it was really a National > holiday. I was going to look it up before possibly showing > my ignorance. Saturday (26th) was the 214th anniversary of the arrival of Captain Arthur Phillips little fleet at Botany Bay. Not universally approved as our national day, especially by the original inhabitants some of whom consider it the anniversary of an invasion. Most (but not all) states get a holiday even when it falls on a weekend, so I'll be lazing about at home today (Monday) in Brisbane and Neil in Melbourne will be at work ;-) *I* may even get some modelling done.... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:05:22 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV Message-ID: <20020127220522.10509.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> I though maybe we could try that with the CSM Gotha! --- Brent Theobald wrote: > Howdy! > > >Well Brent, I was rained on, but it looks like > there's > >a rainbow now judging by the latest posts. > > No doubt! I can't wait to see it. Anyone want to > race to see who can build > it first? > > Later! > > Brent > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:37:34 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Kemph's tripes./ Message-ID: <001401c1a783$3707d8a0$9eb40c44@ok.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1A750.EC211D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Captain, a slow-building overweight Polish American is de-lurking off = the port quarter!"\ "Open a hailing channel Mr. Worf." Hi listees! sorry too much STTNG on TNN today. Any way browsing through the Squadron Signal book on the DR-1, on page = 15 there are two pictures of two tripes belonging to Lt. Kemph. The = only distinguishable difference is that one bird has a white left-hand = stabilizer and the other one has a white right hand stab. Anyone know = what serial no goes with which? TIA TomS ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1A750.EC211D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Any way browsing through the Squadron Signal = book  on the=20 DR-1, on page 15 there are two pictures of two tripes belonging to Lt.=20 Kemph.   The only distinguishable difference is that one bird = has a=20 white left-hand stabilizer and the other one has a white right hand = stab. =20 Anyone know what serial no goes with which?
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1A750.EC211D60-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:20:01 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org, Shane Weier Subject: Re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV enroute Message-ID: <3C548B21.A773425C@x25.net> May you and your descendants experience 214 years more. Hopefully with Happiness and pleasure. Lee M. Shane Weier wrote: > > Michael says: > > > Regarding "Australia day" - I was going to wish our > > Australian folks a > > "Happy One" when I saw it mentioned on Hyperscale. However, > > I was uncertain > > whether Hyperscale was having an "Australian" special - in > > other words just > > Australia-related topic for enjoyment, or if it was really a National > > holiday. I was going to look it up before possibly showing > > my ignorance. > > Saturday (26th) was the 214th anniversary of the arrival of Captain Arthur > Phillips little fleet at Botany Bay. Not universally approved as our > national day, especially by the original inhabitants some of whom consider > it the anniversary of an invasion. > > Most (but not all) states get a holiday even when it falls on a weekend, so > I'll be lazing about at home today (Monday) in Brisbane and Neil in > Melbourne will be at work ;-) > > *I* may even get some modelling done.... > > Shane > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 > Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:25:40 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Updates Message-ID: Hans Trauner sent in images of a real Albatros B.I, so that has been added to the Photo Archive. Thanks, Hans! Maire Jean-Pascal sent in images of his Halberstadt Cl.II that is very nicely done. Superb! Now for me to go work on some models, assuming I don't get more interruptions. ;-) Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:19:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Updates Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDAD3@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > Hans Trauner sent in images of a real Albatros B.I, so that has > been added to the Photo Archive. Thanks, Hans! In his comments Hans says: >Please note the wood colouring, the clearly visible nailing and the >'suck-in' effect on the underside of the top wing ribs. http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Ger/Alb_BI/AlbBIstrebe.jpg This is easily the best photo demonstration I've seen of why raised ribs on the underside of period wings are *usually* wrong. Probably the B.I has fairly highly undercambered wings which accentuates the effect, and the absence of rib tapes to partially disguise things is helpfull Nice pics Hans. Any chance that one day you will be able to photograph the interior? Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 20:15:16 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I'm Afraid It's the Aurora Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <3C54A623.74A75078@verizon.net> Having finally looked at the picture and comparing what I saw to a DML D.VII kit right here by the computer, I believe it is indeed the DML Kit. The thick struts are where they replaced photoetched interplane struts with injection molded ones. The propeller is definitely that of the DML kit. I'm very encouraged by this. Alvie PetersList@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 27/01/02 21:05:09 GMT Standard Time, lemen@x25.net writes: > > << Went to Revell.de adnd revell.de and that got nothing. > must be the wrong URL for them. >> > > > Try > > http://www.revell.de/cgi-bin/kat/katalog.pl?cmd=search&KOSCHL=&grp=9998&ARARTN > > =04574&modellsuche=fokker > > the actual image is at http://www.revell.de/katalog/400/04574.jpg > > Once again, certainly not the DML as illustrated, but possibly not the > Monogram either. The struts are too thick for the re-work. Clutching at > straws perhaps, but I do wonder if it's just a stock photo > > cheers > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 20:34:50 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Colors Message-ID: Oh, to get everyone riled up. ;-) Well, thanks to Tomasz and a wild hair, I added a "Colors" section to the site. While there isn't a lot up there yet, I see it growing in the foreseable future. I wanted some place to put Tomasz' wonderful French five-color PDF files, and looking over the site I noticed - in general - there was no place that specifically catered to colors. So, I made one. ;-) Here's the direct link: http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/Colors/index.html Like I said, I see this area growing. There was some information already there that I added, plus a link to my Polly Scale French five-color page on top of links to Tomasz' files. If anyone has anything to contribute, then by all means go right ahead. As in everything WW1-ish, it's a definite area for debate. However, one thing I will *not* add, is whether Voss' cowl was yellow, olive or red... As my high school economics teacher used to say, I couldn't give three flying dead bears... :-) Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 20:39:25 -0600 From: "robert owens" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Kempf's tripe(s) Message-ID: Flying Colours p22 says tht Kempf's tripe w/ white left half of stab (and Maltese Crosses)was 213/17. find it hard to believe there were two acft, as repainting crosses was a matter of tech order, and I seem to recall reading somewhere that black/white split was not uniform within Jasta Boelke (see Osprey's Fok Dr.1 Aces,p56). _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:51:34 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Kempf's tripe(s) Message-ID: <101218633701@smtp.vphos.net> Kempf flew two different Triplanes .. 213/17 and 493/17. The former had a white K, while the latter had a black outlined yellow K, the tail striping was reversed and the different crosses were used. These aircraft are covered in OTF 4/4. I forget if both had the 'Kempf etc etc' on the wings. Side views of both are on my CD. Does the Flying Colours book have Raben's Dr.I in red or blue? Regards, Bob Pearson Colours & Markings of the World's Air Forces 1912-20 http://www.internetmodeler.com/cd-roms/RNP_CD/index.htm ---------- >From: "robert owens" > Flying Colours p22 says tht Kempf's tripe w/ white left half of stab (and > Maltese Crosses)was 213/17. find it hard to believe there were two acft, as > repainting crosses was a matter of tech order, and I seem to recall reading > somewhere that black/white split was not uniform within Jasta Boelke (see > Osprey's Fok Dr.1 Aces,p56). > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:56:13 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Colors Message-ID: <006701c1a7a7$59335d40$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Great stuff Matt. Thanks heaps for this addition to the site. Could I ask that you maybe have a link to Adobe's site in case someone hasnt got the Adobe reader installed. Just trying to save you some emails about this sort of thing. ;-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: [WWI] Colors > Oh, to get everyone riled up. ;-) > > Well, thanks to Tomasz and a wild hair, I added a "Colors" > section to the site. While there isn't a lot up there yet, I see > it growing in the foreseable future. > > I wanted some place to put Tomasz' wonderful French five-color > PDF files, and looking over the site I noticed - in general - > there was no place that specifically catered to colors. So, I > made one. ;-) Here's the direct link: > http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/Colors/index.html > > Like I said, I see this area growing. There was some information > already there that I added, plus a link to my Polly Scale French > five-color page on top of links to Tomasz' files. If anyone has > anything to contribute, then by all means go right ahead. As in > everything WW1-ish, it's a definite area for debate. > > However, one thing I will *not* add, is whether Voss' cowl was > yellow, olive or red... As my high school economics teacher used > to say, I couldn't give three flying dead bears... :-) > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4112 **********************