WWI Digest 4109 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Background ideas by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Re: Pfalz D 4 was: Speaking of Pfalzes by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: Postal jackpot by KarrArt@aol.com 4) re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV by Todd Hayes 5) Re: Background ideas by "Diego Fernetti" 6) More uploads by "Matt Bittner" 7) Re: Background ideas by "Lee M." 8) AmGryph by "Sandy Adam" 9) Revell DVII by "Sandy Adam" 10) Re: Background ideas by "Hans Trauner" 11) re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV by "Brent Theobald" 12) Very Attractive Rates #4541 by "Bradford Clint" 13) Re: AmGryph by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 14) Batch of Models at Local Shop by "Brent Theobald" 15) fonts for decals wasRe: RE: ARRRRGH by "D Charles" 16) Re: AmGryph by "Michael Kendix" 17) SPAD VII Help by "Brent Theobald" 18) Re: More uploads by "Ross Moorhouse" 19) Help with Shanghai Dragon's Fokker Dr.1 by "snbpink" 20) Re: Help with Shanghai Dragon's Fokker Dr.1 by "John & Allison Cyganowski" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:19:23 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Background ideas Message-ID: <151.7d3c74f.2983965b@aol.com> In a message dated 1/25/02 7:22:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes: << In your neck of the woods it probably isn't a far drive and you can get a shot across a tree lined pasture with maybe still a two wire phone line or a barn on the horizon. A color print of this or maybe a panoramic of two or three shots taped together can make a realistic background for a western front airfield scene. sp >> Years ago I had a poster made from a nice "generic" landscape photo I had taken on vacation- had it done at a drug store. I don't remember the cost, but it wasn't too bad as I recall. I haven't used it in a long time- Lately I've been using a low-horizon quickie landscape I painted just for the purpose. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:19:26 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pfalz D 4 was: Speaking of Pfalzes Message-ID: <123.ab31346.2983965e@aol.com> In a message dated 1/25/02 5:39:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, d_fernetti@hotmail.com writes: << Volker! Also other interesting picture in the Pfalz booklet is the one showing Peter Grosz... fresh from High school or so! Makes you think as how many time it takes to become an expert on any field... D. >> That photo is as much an artifact of its time as any of the airplane material in the book! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:19:28 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Postal jackpot Message-ID: <71.196fc524.29839660@aol.com> In a message dated 1/24/02 10:34:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, krychski@earthlink.net writes: << And finally, "Eisernes Kreuz und Balken Kreuz" Markings of German Aircraft in WWI, by Nowarra and Hoffmann. Fortunately, the text is both German and English. Lots of lists of Jasta leaders and the organization of German aviation units. 30 pages of color side views, most of them fairly well-known but there are a couple of zingers I hadn't seen before. About half the book is photos, three to a page with brief captions--small, but quite good quality on the slick paper. Again, many familiar faces, but some shots of early planes not often seen: Tauben, DFW Mars biplane, Ottos and Agos, and a Rumpler G.I and G.III (now there's two I'd love to see kitted...) >> I have a sentimental attachment to that book. With my very first check from my very first job as a teenager I got a money order and claimed a pre-publication copy from John Caler Mail Order Books. I waited and waited and Caler waited and waited and the book never appeared.......a few months later I got a refund and an apology. When the book finally emerged, I was on to other things. Almost 35 years later I spotted the book at a collector show and finally got my greedy fingers on a copy. A lot of information has since been gathered and a lot of the book is woefully out of date, but it's still a classic, and on sheer pleasure level, it's great to flip through the damn thing and muse. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:38:47 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV Message-ID: <20020126063847.93488.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, Squadron has photos of the PE and resin parts for the AEG G.IV. Looks like it might actually be almost ready. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:11:22 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Background ideas Message-ID: I have another question regarding this "scenery" thread... does need the background image to be installed making a gentle curve behind the model, or it can be left just as a flat background? D. >From: "Matt Bittner" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Background ideas >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:41:03 -0500 (EST) > >Now that I have this nifty digital cam, I want to mimic a bunch >of listees, and shoot my models against a "scenic" background. >Ideas? TIA! > > >Matt Bittner > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:54:42 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: More uploads Message-ID: Just uploaded three new ones to Karen Rychlewski's page. Awesome, especially the diorama! Totally cool Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:35:14 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Background ideas Message-ID: <3C52E8D2.8B835F6@x25.net> I have done it either way. Lee M. Diego Fernetti wrote: > > I have another question regarding this "scenery" thread... does need the > background image to be installed making a gentle curve behind the model, or > it can be left just as a flat background? > D. > > >From: "Matt Bittner" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Background ideas > >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:41:03 -0500 (EST) > > > >Now that I have this nifty digital cam, I want to mimic a bunch > >of listees, and shoot my models against a "scenic" background. > >Ideas? TIA! > > > > > >Matt Bittner > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:55:19 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: AmGryph Message-ID: <002001c1a692$bbdc5660$30efb094@sandyada> Anybody know if Americal can accept PayPal? Has Dr Merrill an e-address to ask? thanks Sandy (Fancying buying a stack of Revell SE5a's to build as 56 Squadron doing a scramble!!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:52:45 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Revell DVII Message-ID: <001f01c1a692$bb23b4c0$30efb094@sandyada> Sounds like the DML kit to me - but can anybody expalin to me why DML would sell/ anybody would buy, only the one kit from the set of 4 that DML did? ie - would you not sell/buy the Dr1, DVII, DVIII & Spad as a group? I know that Hasegawa had the DVII mould for a time, but it defeats me that any company would do a deal on one WWI plane and not the rest. Of course why Revell are doing the SE5 but omitting the cleaned up Aurora Camel is equally incomprehensible! I wonder why they never cleaned up the Bebe ( & the Dr1 and Albatros) at the same time - the Bebe was a reasonable kit to start with! Eternal thanks to a sensible company like Eduard - and please make the Camel, SE5/5a soon! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:40:28 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Background ideas Message-ID: <001101c1a698$ed751e40$8aad72d4@FRITZweb> There are several variants to make backgrounds: a) make a photo and enlarge it in the conventional way. As Matt prefers 1/72, it does not need to have a large size. I have done this but never was happy as it is surprisingly hard to find a appropiate subject! In March I'll go to Oberschleißheim, a real WWI landing ground which is still in business today and will try it again. b) take a look to large size photo calendars with landscape themes. They can be cutted to the right size and if the ground / earth is not suitable, simply use your airbrush to create one. c) take a look for backgrounds in the model railway department. Subjects are sometimes 'kitschy', but there are simple Sky subjects also. To create earth, follow b) d) What I did: I went to the Deutsches Museum, Munich. This Museum holds a first class Jasta 5 scenario as a diorama. I took several ( conventional) photos. I had those photos enlarged to the max. size my scanner could handle. After scanning I retouched them with Photopaint and for a 'sky plus earth' background I 'removed' several parts of my photo scans and stitched them together to one background. I printed this in photoquality on my HP deskjet. The max. printer size is good for 1/72, for 1/48 I put this print on a colour xerox machine and enlarged it to A3. These prints / copies were mounted with a spray glue on 'cardboarded foam', it's a foam core with cardboard on both sides. e) The need to curve the background depends on lightning conditions. If you avoid shadows with your light equipment, there is no need to curve it. f) What I did also: Take a photo a) or d) and scan it. Take your model and make a pic with light grey background. Take Photopaint/Photoshop and mount your model into the background... Samples d) and f) on request! Just send me a mail off-line. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:29:04 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Hi-Tech AEG G.IV Message-ID: Howdy! >Squadron has photos of the PE and resin parts for the >AEG G.IV. Looks like it might actually be almost >ready. Not to rain on your parade... Those are the same pictures they have had posted since before Christmas. Keep waiting. Later! 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------=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0-- ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:53:05 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: AmGryph Message-ID: <189.260dc4d.29846321@aol.com> Sandy, I don't believe Glen Merrill at Americal Gryphon accepts any kind of credit card/plastic payment arrangement. For ordering and payment instructions, plus the AG catalog,look at: http://home.sprintmail.com/~tbittners/AG/ If you have a problem trying to order, perhaps you can work out a deal with a U.S. Listee for a trade or in return for a UK same type transaction. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:58:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Sandy Adam" writes: > Anybody know if Americal can accept PayPal? Has Dr Merrill an e-address to > ask? > thanks > Sandy > > (Fancying buying a stack of Revell SE5a's to build as 56 Squadron doing a > scramble!!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:03:19 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Batch of Models at Local Shop Message-ID: Howdy Gang, I went and perused a collection of models earlier in the week. It was a sad illustration of what happens to an avid modeler/collector's stash after he/she passes away. In this case the poor widow was left with 6 large pickup truck loads of kits (obviously not all were OT). If the shop knows her well I might give her one of the kits once I complete it. I don't know if she'd appreciate it or not. I never know how to handle bereaved people.... Anyhow, the collection is so large that the proprieters haven't had a chance to go thru and price everything. I went thru and selected what I might be interested in if the price was right. I thought I'd list some of the other items in case some of you were interested. Some of this stuff is relatively hard to find. There are multiples of many of these. There is more I didn't see or remember. If there is something you are looking for let me know off list. I'll look again when I go back next week. I have know association with this company. If you would like to call them they are MAL Hobbies, Irving Texas (972) 438-9233 Happy hunting, Brent ======================================================================== Meikraft: Albatros C.III (nice decals) Albatros D.I/D.II (nice decals) Merlin: Junkers J.I (not too bad, but thick trailing edges) Halberstadt D.II (actually quite nice) Airfix: it looked like he had several of all the old OT kits. Original boxes too. Pegasus: Salmson Albatros C.III LVG C.VI Halberstadt Cl.II Formaplane: Fredrichshaven G.III (buildable - but not as good as the Sierra Scale or Modelbud kits) Halberstadt Cl.II (nice kits - probably as easy as the Pegasus kit and lots cheaper) Rumpler C.VI (?) (floatplane - looks pretty good) Eagle Talon Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (nice kit - I've built one) Eastern Express: Morane Salnier (I forget which one - mid wing monoplane) Aurora All the old ones - even the Breguet (sp?) and the 1/32 or 1/28 D.VII Classic Plane DFW C.V _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 06:09:22 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: fonts for decals wasRe: RE: ARRRRGH Message-ID: <004e01c1a6a5$681c8a00$5b108aca@Charls> I usually mix them in and use two or three different fonts in the same group. It's time consuming but, the results are better than using just one font which "almost" matches letters and numerals. David ----- Original Message ----- > I'll let you know what font I use and how it works out. This is my primary > project for the weekend aside from painting my Albie D.II. > > Alvie > > ibs4421 wrote: > > > Alvie, > > I am interested in possibly doing this with my laser printer. > > Please let me know how it works out. > > > > Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:05:09 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: AmGryph Message-ID: >From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:54:03 -0500 (EST) > >Sandy, > >I don't believe Glen Merrill at Americal Gryphon accepts any kind of credit >card/plastic payment arrangement. For ordering and payment instructions, >plus the AG catalog,look at: > >http://home.sprintmail.com/~tbittners/AG/ right, which says that: "Payment by cheque in £ Sterling or in DM or EURO should be made payable to Glen K. Merrill. All checks in U.S. funds should be made payable to AMERICALS. Due to excessive bank charges we reserve the right to return checks drawn on overseas banks without U.S. routing codes." So, if it has sucha code, you can write a sterling denominated cheque (Look how nicely Professor Merrill spells the word "Cheque":)). Michael _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:17:25 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: SPAD VII Help Message-ID: Howdy gang! I know, your thinking "What? Brent wants to know about French aircraft?!?!" Yes, I know. It's one of the signs the end is near. Rivers running blood, Brent and French aircraft. I expect Diego to get a visit from Britney Spears any moment... (Watch out Wanda!) Ah, but I digress... Since I have very little information on French aircraft I have no way to research the SPAD VII that was captured and flown by Jasta 4. I know it says "Good People" on the wings but that's it. Any help? The Lone Star 1/48 SPAD may well come under the knife soon. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 07:57:45 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: More uploads Message-ID: <003101c1a6ac$1ae3b180$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Again Karen great work. Soon you will get that letter from the Queen asking you to travel to the Palace and making you a Lady of the Models not just a Dame. ;-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:55 AM Subject: [WWI] More uploads > Just uploaded three new ones to Karen Rychlewski's page. > Awesome, especially the diorama! Totally cool > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Page > Assistant Editor > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:19:14 -0500 From: "snbpink" To: "WWI Modeling" Subject: Help with Shanghai Dragon's Fokker Dr.1 Message-ID: <001401c1a6b7$8021a880$808b393f@computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1A68D.941FDC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am skeptical of the kit's painting instructions for the cockpit. = Being short of references and rather new to WWI aircraft could someone = please let me know what the cockpit colors should be. TIA ! Chris Bernique ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1A68D.941FDC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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