WWI Digest 4084 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Lozenge color help please (long) by Shane Weier 2) RE: Lozenge color help please (long) by Shane Weier 3) Re: Depth of field wasRe: My digital cam by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 4) Re: Don't you hate it when..... by Crawford Neil 5) Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (and the plot by Volker Haeusler 6) RE: MUSEUM by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 7) Re: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (and the plot by "Ross Moorhouse" 8) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by Crawford Neil 9) Tidying up was RE: RE: New addition by Crawford Neil 10) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by Volker Haeusler 11) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell by Crawford Neil 12) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by "Ross Moorhouse" 13) Fokker DRI - 1/48 by Tom Gourdie 14) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell by Volker Haeusler 15) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell by Crawford Neil 16) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell by "Ross Moorhouse" 17) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by PetersList@aol.com 18) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by Volker Haeusler 19) Re: Don't you hate it when..... by Crawford Neil 20) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by Volker Haeusler 21) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by "Ross Moorhouse" 22) The Revell 1/48 D VII by Volker Haeusler 23) Another update by "Matt Bittner" 24) Hobbyshop.cz (ex VAMP) is opened now by Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz 25) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by "Thomas Solinski" 26) Re: R: Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels by "Diego Fernetti" 27) RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an by KnnthS@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:32:44 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Lozenge color help please (long) Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA62@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mark > Here in order of darkest to lightest are the values I got off > the photo matched to their color: > 1 blue-green, 2 ocher, 3 green, 4 purple, 5 blue > Am I the only one flabbergasted by this?? > Ocher is the second darkest color!! I'm afraid you've fallen right into a trap. My guess is that the photo was taken on ortho film. Ochre is *approximately* yellow and therefore has less effect on ortho emulsion than the brightness would suggest - so clear film, so darker on the print. > Only explanation could be the infamous effect of Ortho film. Absolutely correct. > When I compared these values to the ones I derived from the > photo they still didn't match - not even close. Not surprised - his methodology is a gross simplification, though probably on the right path. > So could somebody help me out here? > I would especially appreciate some input from anybody > familiar with the effects of Ortho film. I still have several boxes (probably well outdated) of 4x5 inch ortho film in my garage. I'll try to find the appropriate data sheets, and one for a panchro emulsion, so that you can actually see the graphs which show sensitivity versus wavelength - and note that because the graphs are nothing like straight lines with sharp bends in them trying to emulate it in the manner suggested will give you big headaches and dodgy results. >\ > BTW - I expect 2 more sets of color samples soon - maybe that > will help - I hope so IMO It won't - you'll just get two more irreconcilable samples. I hate sounding so like a wet blanket, but people have been trying to reconcile the multiple references for years and so far we have as many opinions as we have researchers. Most recently the Silberstrief fabric has introduced a new set of numbers with *two* new set of admirers - those who take the colours of the fabric right from the factory as "correct" and those who take the more saturated, darker colours of the *doped* fabric as "correct" (IMO the latter are closer, but even then I'd prefer to see the fabric doped with Cellulose acetate dope, something no museum would ever be so foolish as to do, because of safety issues) FWIW Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:01:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Lozenge color help please (long) Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA63@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mark asks< > Works like this: > In PhotoShop go to Image, adjust, Channel mixer then set the > red to 0% and the green and blue to 50%. > Then put a tick in the "monochrome" box at the bottom of the > screen. I then adjusted the brightness and contrast so that I > had a range, which was approximately equal to the values I > got off the photo. \(snip) > > So could somebody help me out here? > I would especially appreciate some input from anybody > familiar with the effects of Ortho film. I *know* I'll regret this but here goes.................... Originaly b&w films relied almost entirely on the light sensitivity of silver halide crystals. These silver salts are *blue* sensitive, and not affected at all by red and barely by green light. If you drew a graph, with a spectrum across the X axis (in other words, increasing wavelength) and a sensitivity scale on the Y axis and graphed the sensitivity of a silver halide emulsion versus colour, you'd get something like a bell curve centred on the blue part of the spectrum but with decreasing sensitivity to green and Ultra violet and almost none at all to the red end on the spectrum. *However* there are discontinuities in the curve for any film - little peaks and valleys - because a variety of interactions between emulsion components and carrier, so that (for example) the film will be extra sensitive to some very specific colours or less sensitive to others. It just isn't *absolutely* smooth, and it isn't always the same from brand to brand. By adding chemicals called colour couplers it is possible to increase the sensitivity of the emulsion to green and red. The effect is to broaden the bell curve, but each of the chemicals tends to up the sensitivity of a band (or a few non continuous bands) of wavelengths, so that the widened bell curve now has dips and peaks in the top. (AND almost invariably there will still be heightened sensitivity to the blue end and UV light. This is why photographers often use yellow filters when using B&W film - it corrects the over sensitivity to blue which causes overexposure of the sky) In any case - the reason that the theory propounded won't work is surely pretty clear. Ortho film is not *absolutely* insensitive to red, 50% insensitive to green and 100% sensitive to blue - sensitivity varies ina curve, has bumbs and bulges and is in any case further affected by the colour of ambient light. You have *way* too many variables for such a simplification to work (except in the case where the subject is coloured with *only* pure red, green and blue) FWIW Apologies in advance for any minor simplifications or omissions - I first learned this stuff as a kid 30 years ago, then at Uni 25 years ago and finally when the Armed Forces wanted me to work as a photo interpreter - my most recent theory revision is now 20 years old and fading faster than a polaroid print Shane The problem is this ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:00:57 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: Re: Depth of field wasRe: My digital cam Message-ID: Last week I added up the total number of shots I've taken with my digital camera over the last couple of months, then figured out how much it would have cost me in film & developing. Total: $735. Price of camera: $729. (Nikon 995) And that's only after two months' worth of shooting..... Sincerely, Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Illustrator Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:07:07 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Don't you hate it when..... Message-ID: Nuts, gentlemen? (James Thurber) /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard [mailto:nigelch@cheffers.co.uk] > Sent: den 17 januari 2002 20:51 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Don't you hate it when..... > > > > >By the way, the nutcracker is very useful for opening stuck > >paintjars or the like. > > > >.Mark. > > .. not to mention nuts!!! > N > -- > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:58:33 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (and the plot Message-ID: I received a mail from a friend in germany (and found the same news were already posted at hyperscale) on the Revell of Germany news for ´02. While the highlights are ot (a BV 222 (!) and a Breguet Atlantic in 72 scale, to name some), there are 3 OT aircraft: The SE 5 A and Fokker D VII already discussed and a "new" Magic Flight Fokker Dr I. Looking on the Revell Germany Webpage, the Fokker D VII is shown under skill level 4 (versus 3 for the SE 5 A), indicating again that this is a Dragon re-issue - maybe I should really redo my Jasta 40 decals in 48 scale? However, there is also one "new" OT issue in 72 scale: A "Magic Flight" Fokker Dr I. As already discussed last year on the list, "Magic Flight" is a new series from Revell that alows you to make your models "fly" (more precisely: hover) in the air. What you get is the model, a base, some transparent wire (fishing line, I guess) and two magnets. These magnets are installed in the base and the model, and because of the orientation of the magnetic field the model (with the transparent wire connecting it to the base) is forced to "float" or hover above the base. Isaw this technology a few years ago on a model show in Germany (I guess Revell got the idea from the same models) and tried it also on a (terribly ot, I admit) X 35 I build last year, and the effect is incredible... Well, while this is pure speculation, I guess the Dr I itself is not really new, but a reissue of the old kit, but I like the idea. And I think the potential is superb - aircraft coming in to land, or dioramas with ground straffing Camels, Halberstadts or Hannovers. Not to mention "finding the Lost Battalion" with a DH 4... All in all, I think that´s exciting news, especially in face of the rumours of Revell shutting down. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:49:46 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: MUSEUM Message-ID: <000601c1a016$3b70fdf0$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Martín, It's very nice to hear from you after the recent happenings! We all hope you're OK! Tell us more! What OT aircraft can we see in the museum? I'm always delaying a visit to the Museu Aeroespacial in Rio de Janeiro, already visited by some listees... I should put it in my New Year resolutions also... All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf > Of Martin > Héctor AFFLITTO ECHAGüE > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:44 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] MUSEUM > > > Hi!!!! > Get our aeronautical museum > http://www.faa.mil.ar/historia/sinopsisa.html > > it's from ARGENTINA > > Martin > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 21:54:15 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (and the plot Message-ID: <001701c1a00e$78b37e20$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Volker Haeusler" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: [WWI] Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (and the plot | Looking on the Revell Germany Webpage, the Fokker D VII is shown under skill | level 4 (versus 3 for the SE 5 A), indicating again that this is a Dragon | re-issue - maybe I should really redo my Jasta 40 decals in 48 scale? Yes please mate. They look so good in 1/72nd. | | However, there is also one "new" OT issue in 72 scale: A "Magic Flight" | Fokker Dr I. As already discussed last year on the list, "Magic Flight" is a | new series from Revell that alows you to make your models "fly" (more | precisely: hover) in the air. | | What you get is the model, a base, some transparent wire (fishing line, I | guess) and two magnets. These magnets are installed in the base and the | model, and because of the orientation of the magnetic field the model (with | the transparent wire connecting it to the base) is forced to "float" or | hover above the base. Isaw this technology a few years ago on a model show | in Germany (I guess Revell got the idea from the same models) and tried it | also on a (terribly ot, I admit) X 35 I build last year, and the effect is | incredible... | | Well, while this is pure speculation, I guess the Dr I itself is not really | new, but a reissue of the old kit, but I like the idea. And I think the | potential is superb - aircraft coming in to land, or dioramas with ground | straffing Camels, Halberstadts or Hannovers. Not to mention "finding the | Lost Battalion" with a DH 4... What a fantasic idea. Imagen being the first to show this sort of diorama at a club meeting. All those "How does it fly??" | | All in all, I think that´s exciting news, especially in face of the rumours | of Revell shutting down. Now this is news to me. | | Volker Cheers mate Ross | | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:57:46 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: Very interesting news from Volker, I suppose there is nothing to stop us from replacing the Revell Fokker with an Eduard Fokker (or a Spad!) /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:07:42 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Tidying up was RE: RE: New addition Message-ID: How often do people tidy up their modelling area? If at all! I usually do it when I've finished a major step in a project, like sanding, or painting, or decalling. Most of the time it's middling pigish, I've seen worse. /Neil C. Pedro wrote: > > A couple of years ago we visited Len in London and I had to > listen to her > for a whole month.... "see... why can't you just be as > organised and Len... > everything so tidy and clean... no plastic dust... no paint > on the ground, > no tissues sticking of thinners lying around... no this... no that......" > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:28:08 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: Neil: "Very interesting news from Volker, I suppose there is nothing to stop us from replacing the Revell Fokker with an Eduard Fokker (or a Spad!)" as already said: you can do the same thing on your own - all it needs is some fishing line and some *strong* magnets that you arrange in your model and the base - check whether they are strong enough before you hide them in the fuselage (and I´m speaking from experience on this one - I still got that heavy (from the magnets) but non-hovering Sea Harrier...) For my X 35, I used some copper wire "hooks" attached to the fishing line to connect to the undercarriage legs. Then again, whether the thin, low lift SPAD wings will sufficiently support the magnets... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:14:13 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell Message-ID: Do you mean that magnets have to be embedded in the wings? Fokker Dr1 wings are a little fatter, is that why they chose it? Or were you just taking the mickey! /Neil C. > Then again, whether the thin, low lift SPAD wings will > sufficiently support > the magnets... > > Volker > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:16:26 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: <003301c1a011$91c85cc0$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> To take the hover planes even further to make them look like they are flying, are there not those P.E. spinning props you can buy?? They look like they are spinning. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Volker Haeusler" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:11 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an | Neil: | | "Very interesting news from Volker, I suppose there is | nothing to stop us from replacing the Revell Fokker with an | Eduard Fokker (or a Spad!)" | | as already said: you can do the same thing on your own - all it needs is | some fishing line and some *strong* magnets that you arrange in your model | and the base - check whether they are strong enough before you hide them in | the fuselage (and I´m speaking from experience on this one - I still got | that heavy (from the magnets) but non-hovering Sea Harrier...) For my X 35, | I used some copper wire "hooks" attached to the fishing line to connect to | the undercarriage legs. | | Then again, whether the thin, low lift SPAD wings will sufficiently support | the magnets... | | Volker | | | | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:17:23 -0000 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Fokker DRI - 1/48 Message-ID: In the absence of the Dragon DRI (scarce as hen's teeth nowadays) does anyone know of any decent alternative in 1/48? I have an old unbuilt SMER at home which looks hideous but it seems to be the only offering there is and it isn't even 1/48 - its 1/44 or something equally odd. 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If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:36:51 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell Message-ID: "Or were you just taking the mickey!" I admit I could not resist... Sorry, but Matt is not around at this moment, so it had to be you... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:21:16 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell Message-ID: Doh! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:24:51 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell Message-ID: <004b01c1a012$bee94a60$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Neil, seems that he got me too.... That's it Volker, next time you are out here I am not taking you for a ride in our Kangaroo's pouch. ;-) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:15 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell | Do you mean that magnets have to be embedded in the wings? | Fokker Dr1 wings are a little fatter, is that why they chose it? | Or were you just taking the mickey! | /Neil C. | | | | > Then again, whether the thin, low lift SPAD wings will | > sufficiently support | > the magnets... | > | > Volker | > | > | > | > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 06:24:58 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: Does this meen the end of loosing etch to the carpet monster? I can imagine that after a few months my magnetic Fokker will resemble a disco glitterball. Great idea. Bring it on. cheers Peter L ps: Shhhhhhh! I've started peddling my Dragon DVII stash ob ebay. Just a little insider trading. Hanging on to a couple just in case. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:49:02 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: Ross, "To take the hover planes even further to make them look like they are flying, are there not those P.E. spinning props you can buy?? They look like they are spinning." Yes, there´s that stuff ( I think you fiond a discussion on it at modeling madness), but somehow I don´t ike the appearance. There are two other possibilities - one cheap and easy, one expensive and even more realistic: The cheap one: Take some clear plastic/acetate sheet, cut out a circle (using a circle cutter), fabricate a spinner from round plasic material and sandwich the "rotating blades" clear plastic sheets between the two pwart. To get an additional effect, put a pin in the center of the circle, attach some *rough* emery paper to the pin and rotate the acetate sheet over the emery paper - this produces some fine lines indicating the spinning prop blades. The expensive one: A frined of mine onece build a Dr I wit a very easile rotating propeller (the propeller being attached to a needle rotating in a copper tupe - no friction to speak of. He then took one of those compressors you get in Zoo shops (in the aquarium department) , connected it to a plastic tube ending in a fine needle like those used for injections, and did hide the needle in the "ground" of the diorama he build, with the needle pointing towarsds the prop. this made the prop spin like the real thing. Now easy, but the effect was really impressive. Finally, I remember seeig someone doing the effect of teh photo etched "spinning prop" thing with clear plasic cut out that way - much cheaper, and not looking that much different... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:42:05 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Don't you hate it when..... Message-ID: Brent wrote: ... Aero > Club Re.8, Blue > Max Brisfit - Good golly these Brits flew unrefined machines! Unrefined but fast! OK not the RE8, but the Bristol Fighter and DH4 were very fast for their time. It's difficult to believe when you look at them. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:02:13 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: Just as an additional remark, the efect of the "Magic Flight" concept can be seen at http://www.revell.de/cgi-bin/kat/katalog.pl?cmd=overview&KOSCHL=08&grp=12 (on an ot example, I have to say - the triplane is not yet in) Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:52:41 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: <006501c1a016$a225de80$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> PHEW.. I really thought I had been had. ;-) I still think this is a great idea.. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Volker Haeusler" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:46 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an | Just as an additional remark, the efect of the "Magic Flight" concept can be | seen at | | http://www.revell.de/cgi-bin/kat/katalog.pl?cmd=overview&KOSCHL=08&grp=12 | | (on an ot example, I have to say - the triplane is not yet in) | | Volker | | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:12:13 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: The Revell 1/48 D VII Message-ID: And further on the Revell ´48 D VII: - Release date is April ´02 - the Revell webpage shows a photo of a replica D VII with Udet "DDN" markings - the wingspan and length are shown as 185 and 145 mm respectivly - now this could be a clear indication, as the old Monogram D VII was somehwat overscale and should differ substantially from the Dragon kit - anybody out there to measure those kits? Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 06:03:11 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Another update Message-ID: Added another re-shot from Alberto. Nieuport, naturally. :-) Absolutely stunning. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Page Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:05:00 +0100 From: Lubos.Vinar@deltax.cz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hobbyshop.cz (ex VAMP) is opened now Message-ID: Hi all I'm very happy to inform you that HOBBYSHOP.CZ (VAMP mail order service in the past) is opened now. You can visit our new shop on the URL http://www.hobbyshop.cz I look forward to you. Best regards Lubos Vinar lubos@vinar.cz http://www.hobbyshop.cz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 06:12:11 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: <007001c1a019$5c152240$a6a20d41@okcnc1.ok.home.com> > PHEW.. I really thought I had been had. ;-) I still think this is a great > idea.. >> | Just as an additional remark, the efect of the "Magic Flight" concept can > be > | seen at > | > | http://www.revell.de/cgi-bin/kat/katalog.pl?cmd=overview&KOSCHL=08&grp=12 > | > | (on an ot example, I have to say - the triplane is not yet in) > | BUT... if you click on the MINI's button there is a very small Dr-I, which given that the other magic of flight aircraft are 1/144, then my guess at the OT candidate will be the tiny Dr Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:19:48 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: R: Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels Message-ID: Alberto wrote: >As for Italians continuing the French practice, I seriously doubt this, as >A-H inspection technicians reported that Italian-built Nieuports were >definitley better built than French ones. Of course, this does not imply >that Italians used different techniques (they may simply have built better >using the same methods), but Italian firms which built French designs under >license often departed from French practices in various ways. One more example of this is when you compare Laetitia Casta (french manufacture) to Maria Grazia Cuccinotta (italian manufacture) Wich one is better? D. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:21:46 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Magic Flight 2002 - the new Fokker Dr I from Revell (an Message-ID: <14.2105b8bb.29796d5a@aol.com> Volker: << with the needle pointing towards the prop. this made the prop spin like the real thing >> this is just about the coolest thing I have ever heard of.... very clever ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4084 **********************