WWI Digest 4082 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) another decal idea by Myles Miller 2) bristol boxkite by "Harris, Mack" 3) Still bad luck with my Alb. DII... by "Hans Trauner" 4) Re: Dont you hate it when by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 5) Re: Dont you hate it when by "Lee M." 6) Re: Dont you hate it when by "ot811" 7) Re: Still bad luck with my Alb. DII... by KnnthS@aol.com 8) Re: Dont you hate it when by "ot811" 9) Re: Dont you hate it when by KnnthS@aol.com 10) Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals by "Bob Pearson" 11) Re: another decal idea by "Bob Pearson" 12) Re: -A-M-P by KnnthS@aol.com 13) Re: Dont you hate it when by "ot811" 14) Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals by "Brent Theobald" 15) Re: Don't you hate it when..... by "Mark Shannon" 16) Re: Dont you hate it when by KnnthS@aol.com 17) Re: Dont you hate it when by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 18) Re: Another decale idea by "Mark Shannon" 19) Re: Don't you hate it when..... by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 20) Vacu-form by "Tom Plesha" 21) Re: Don't you hate it when..... by "ot811" 22) Re: Don't you hate it when..... by "Mark Shannon" 23) Re: wire wheels.. you spoke some by "Ross Moorhouse" 24) Re: Don't you hate it when..... by "Brent Theobald" 25) Re: PKZ-2 by "Pedro Soares" 26) Re: Depth of field wasRe: My digital cam by "Laskodi" 27) RE: New addition by "Pedro Soares" 28) PKZ-2 by "Pedro Soares" 29) Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals by "Bob Pearson" 30) Re: Another decale idea by "Bob Pearson" 31) Re: wire wheels.. you spoke some by PetersList@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:40:19 -0800 From: Myles Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: another decal idea Message-ID: <4.1.20020117100550.009fad50@pop.thc.state.tx.us> Hello Bob and listmembers Here's another decal idea: This may be goofy, but how about personal logos and paint schemes for Fokker D.VII and other aircraft? A quick scan of the Windsock Fokker Anthologies finds several interesting personal schemes beyond the somewhat redundant markings that have been offered by Super Scale, Microscale, Aeromaster, etc. over the years. Starks' "Li" markings and Blumenthal's "Nickchen IV" would be just two of many possible depictions. The sheet(s) could include several personal markings, color bands, and tailplane stripe patterns, along with the necessary ID numbers. Just a thought - Myles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:40:05 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "World War I (E-mail)" Subject: bristol boxkite Message-ID: anyone know of any pictures of boxkite's serving in early wwi? Mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:49:03 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Still bad luck with my Alb. DII... Message-ID: <009401c19f7f$40ac9640$81bc72d4@FRITZweb> Hi, yesterday I have decalled my Eduard D.II. First problem: All those decals are slightly too large! Be aware! If they would be 96% of the size they would be perfect. On the top wing it's easier to use the underside crosses and for the underside those without white borders. For the fuselage and the rudder it's hard to find alternatives. I opted for the 'white goose' which is also too large, but it does not matter, at last. To enhance the panel lines I usually use oils. I made a mistake: After putting some black/umbra mix over the panel lines on the bird's decal I tried to remove the rest after a few minutes. And it did not work!! Unremovable! Oils! After 5 minutes! Then I used a brush dampened in white spirit..... and it dissolves the decal..... Yes, yes, I have heard about! Eduard decals are delicate and sensitive like a (censored). But I did not believe it.... All I can say, follow the advices which are age old: seal them, seal them... Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:49:37 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dont you hate it when Message-ID: Not being a chemistry guru, I would reverse the proces: drop the glob back into a suffiecient quantity of Laquer thinner and let it dissolve the plastic!! Good Luck! John "ot811" Sent by: cc: wwi@wwi-model Subject: [WWI] Dont you hate it when s.org 01/17/02 12:19 PM Please respond to wwi you drop your airbrush parts in lacquer thinner in a plastic cup, ... .. and come back next day to a solid glob of plastic. Question for the chemistry gurus: Can I rescue the nozzle parts ? This was a condiment cup you find in fastfood places, made of translucent plastic. The whole thing is now one solid mass with the needle etc firmly embedded in it. The whole thing is firmly stuck to the sink counter top. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:36:36 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dont you hate it when Message-ID: <3C4719B4.F51B2832@x25.net> Sanjeev First you must remove the counter top,from the glob, or, it may dissolve also. Then put it in more lacquer thinner contained in a more suitable container and try to pickout the parts with "nutpicks" or some other thin pointy tools. You have to do it while the parts are submerged. Chances are the counter top is a dead issue about now. SO Second solution Replace the counter tops and buy replacement parts for the air brush because they are usually not extremely expensive. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx ot811 wrote: > > you drop your airbrush parts in lacquer thinner in a plastic cup, ... > .. and come back next day to a solid glob of plastic. > > Question for the chemistry gurus: > Can I rescue the nozzle parts ? This was a condiment cup you find in > fastfood places, made of translucent plastic. The whole thing is now one > solid mass with the needle etc firmly embedded in it. The whole thing is > firmly stuck to the sink counter top. > regards > SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:40:36 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: Dont you hate it when Message-ID: <013201c19f86$77db2850$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Michael muses: > talking piece, though perhaps your wife has talked to you about it already. Er, no, not yet, the objet d'art is tucked away in a guest bathroom..... Why? you think she might see things differently ? (by the way, it does look like that Time-piece thing of Dali's) regards SSH ps: Resolved never ever again to sponge freebies and extra napkins from McDonalds ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:44:36 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Still bad luck with my Alb. DII... Message-ID: <110.bcc1d04.29787594@aol.com> someone wrote: << Eduard decals are delicate and sensitive >> well...this does give new meaning to X marks the spot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:48:48 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: Dont you hate it when Message-ID: <013e01c19f87$9bd05e50$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Lee, John, Thanks for the suggestions. I believe I might try it. Last time I looked, the countertop looked okay. Looks like I could get it off(the glob, not the counter) with a chisel. But, if things dont work out... Anybody got a room to rent while things cool down? regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:04:21 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dont you hate it when Message-ID: <69.209b7ff5.29787a35@aol.com> RE laquer thinner: << lacquer thinner >> eats anything except metals. b careful. nasty stuff, truly. wash and rinse is in play. IMO, wouldn't let it *near* plastic. >.. and come back next day you could come back in an hour and have found same outcome. effective cleaner, bad-news soaker. except for metal bits. Fireman Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:44:10 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <101129474701@smtp.vphos.net> I did cocardes for the Salmson last night, and used a blue on the darker side of French samples .. looks okay without the moire seen in the more blue/grey colours. So once I get some more white, perhaps a set of French roundels. I've also started laying out a sheet of specific aircraft markings .. some that people had specifically requested, others just because they are neat When I print them I'll let you know what is on it. Bob ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:59:24 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: another decal idea Message-ID: <101129475701@smtp.vphos.net> I have started on that by doing Hantlemann and Beaulieu-Marconnay's D.VIIs, The Fratz D.VI, Bertraß's D.III (with red/yellow comet), Berthold's Sword and will add others .. I was worried about doing redundant ones, but on further thought, the alps does the markings so much sharper that I suppose I shouldn't worry about it. I have a neat set idea that I have to clear with someone first, as it may be an article and I don't want to preempt him in showing them. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:17:11 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: -A-M-P Message-ID: <81.161d9544.29787d37@aol.com> VAMP-O-Riffic when somebody knows, will they throw it out on de list? spotting aircraft til then- a concerned lister ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:32:59 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: Dont you hate it when Message-ID: <017001c19f8d$c7cf20d0$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Hi Fireman Bill, Lacquer thinner is not ALL bad. I poured it in another plastic cup (different plastic) and that cup is still hale and hearty. Atleast, I hope so, I will check when I get home. But,... a lesson learnt for sure. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:32:52 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: Hey Bob! So, do you have a production schedule or are you just printing on a whim? I'd like to know what your schedule is so I can budget for it. I can't decide if I want you to speed up (more decals) or slow down (less money). I still need to send you another $10 for AEF and Salmson decals. Sheesh! Later! Brent "My wife and I have the secret to making a marriage last: Two times a week, we go to a nice restaurant, have a little wine, some good food and companionship. She goes Tuesdays, I go Fridays." _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:34:17 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Don't you hate it when..... Message-ID: SSH lamented: >Question for the chemistry gurus: >Can I rescue the nozzle parts ? This was a condiment cup you find in >fastfood places, made of translucent plastic. The whole thing is now one >solid mass with the needle etc firmly embedded in it. The whole thing is >firmly stuck to the sink counter top. Ok, if the plastic is what I think it is, you should be able to clean up the countertop with some acetone, nail polish remover, or lacquer thinner with Xylene in it. Be very careful about ventilation because this much solvent, especially acetone and xylene, is both 'not good for you' and highly flammable. You may leave permanent marks on the countertop, depending on what it is made of. You should be able to lift away the objet d'art and get most of it off without heavy chiseling and scraping, leaving just a thin layer to scrub off. As far as your airbrush parts, what kind do you have? If it is just the metal parts of say a Paasche or Badger 150/200, then they are recoverable. I'm assuming that you knew better than to soak them in lacquer thinner with the rubber parts attached. I'm not sure about other models of airbrush. Some have plastic parts to the nozzle that might be more resistant than the cup, but still suffer damage from being soaked in solvent. What you need to do to recover as much as possible, is to carefully cut away as much plastic as you can, and then soak the parts in acetone or lacquer thinner in a glass jar. The jar should not have a coated cardboard liner to the lid, but that may not be possible. As someone else said, buy a cheap nutcracker set, the kind with some nutpicks and the simple two-bars hinged at one end nutcracker. Every so often, come back and scrape bits of plastic off the soaking parts with a couple of the nutpicks. It might not be worth the effort, however, depending on the cost and availability of replacement parts. By the way, the nutcracker is very useful for opening stuck paintjars or the like. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:43:26 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dont you hate it when Message-ID: <131.74c817d.2978835e@aol.com> SSH writes: << I will check when I get home. >> I would *call* home..... yikes great schtuff but godzilla in a tin. a real howitzer of a solvent. on that note: I would correct fire before calling an FFE.... imho... -billy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:41:44 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dont you hate it when Message-ID: >Not being a chemistry guru, I would reverse the proces: drop the glob back >into a suffiecient quantity of Laquer thinner and let it dissolve the >plastic!! > >Good Luck! >John > .....In a stainless steel or glass container. Now repeat after me: unknownn plastics usually dissolve when you least expect it... N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:50:31 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Another decale idea Message-ID: Bob, What scale are you working on the 'Fratz' Fokker D.VI? I'd love to have those for the Eduard kit that is sitting in the to-do pile. (Yes, I do intend to finish another model, someday....). I suppose it is scalable, but I didn't know your plans. .Mark. Another one you might work on is the Bavarian Lion seal on Eduard von Schleich's D.V and Fokker D.VII. As an article about a year ago in "Over the Front" showed, this was not as depicted in the available aftermarket sheets - it is handed and the lion faces forward on both sides. This is a popular enough scheme we ought to do it right. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:48:26 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Don't you hate it when..... Message-ID: >By the way, the nutcracker is very useful for opening stuck >paintjars or the like. > >.Mark. ... not to mention nuts!!! N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:54:03 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Vacu-form Message-ID: <001501c19f90$b72a6340$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi All- Has anyone used the Kingston Vacu-form? Any comments? I'm thinking of ordering one. Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:09:08 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: Don't you hate it when..... Message-ID: <019e01c19f93$26c15d60$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Mark, Thanks. >>>> you should be able to clean up the countertop with some acetone, nail polish remover, or lacquer thinner with Xylene in it. --- I just pour some on the counter and wait until it loosens, right? >>>Be very careful about ventilation because this much solvent, especially acetone and xylene, is both 'not good for you' and highly flammable. ---- smells good though >>>that you knew better than to soak them in lacquer thinner with the rubber parts attached ---- I know better than zip. But no, no rubber. This is an aztec brush, and total replacement cost will be less than USD 15, so I wont put in too much effort on salvaging the parts. Thanks again SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:31:56 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Don't you hate it when..... Message-ID: SSH lamented: >>>> you should be able to clean up the countertop with some acetone, nail polish remover, or lacquer thinner with Xylene in it. --- I just pour some on the counter and wait until it loosens, right? Actually, it would be better to use the solvent on a rag or paper towel, and scrub. Refresh the rag or towel as needed. Pouring the solvent straight on the surface will cause more hazard and more possible damage to the counter material. >>>Be very careful about ventilation because this much solvent, especially acetone and xylene, is both 'not good for you' and highly flammable. ---- smells good though Ah-hum! Save your sniffing for roses (Four Roses? isn't that the whiskey?), your wife's cooking (if she is the one who does it), and perfume (especially hers). On the last two, compliment as often as possible, even find excuses to complement her, and maybe she might someday forgive you your sin (this one). Whatever you do, don't sit around sniffing this stuff - brain damage, liver damage, and general not good stuff can ensue. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:34:43 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: wire wheels.. you spoke some Message-ID: <002701c19f96$652f6440$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Peter try this page on Steve Cox's site http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/STEVE/OS/os.html Main page is here http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/framesetpm.html Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:15 AM Subject: [WWI] wire wheels | I am sure I remember one of our number having an article somewhere on the web | about making wire wheels. Can someone point me in the right direction please. | | cheers | | Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:37:11 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Don't you hate it when..... Message-ID: Howdy! >This is an aztec brush, and total replacement cost will be less than >USD >15, so I wont put in too much effort on salvaging the parts. Actually it ought to be free. The Aztek has an unlimited lifetime warranty. Just return it and they ought to give you another one. I gummed mine up with some laquer paint and it was replaced. However, I traded it for a Paasche that doesn't clog up when I spray laquers. Now if only acrylics worked better... Have a good one! Brent nb: I broke out some old, unfinished kits last night... Aero Club Re.8, Blue Max Brisfit - Good golly these Brits flew unrefined machines! Back to the Gotha! nl: Bad Religion nr: Enemy at the Gates (I know ot, but Stalingrad is dreadfully fascinating) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:39:16 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: PKZ-2 Message-ID: <008601c19f97$081d4aa0$ea7016d5@netcabo.pt> Thanks Tood. Some friends have e-mailed some pretty good info and it confirms what I though. The shaft and the fuel tanks were metal. Thanks a bunch Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Hayes To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:56 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: PKZ-2 > Hi Pedro, > > I don't know about the mini-DF, but the painting > instructions for the 1/48 Eduard kit gives gray as the > airframe color, including the observer's basket, and > dark gray for the aircushion. > > Todd > > > --- Pedro Soares wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone have the mini DF on this thing? I am > > curious about what colours > > it states for it because I don't agree with what > > Roden recommends, i.e, 4 or > > 5 different shades of grey. The pictures on the FMP > > A-H book make me think > > most of it it's different shades of metal...has > > anyone any clue? > > > > Thanks > > > > Pedro > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:44:58 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: Re: Depth of field wasRe: My digital cam Message-ID: <002801c19f97$d474ff80$483819d0@f4hn201> <<>> Good luck finding one! AFAIK, there are no digicams that go to f22 and I doubt you will be seeing any within the next five-ten years in your price range! Bottom line, my experience with my Nikon 990 (f11.1) produces comparable results (regarding depth of field) as my Nikon SLR that does shoot at f22. Of course, YMMV! ----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:48:31 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: New addition Message-ID: <008c01c19f98$52a3dac0$ea7016d5@netcabo.pt> > Matt says: > > > Just added Pedro's latest, a MAC Phonix D.I. Superb work, > > Pedro!! > > Yes indeed, very nice. Thanks a bunch Shane, > > Mind you, your desk needs a tidy up ;-) What do you mean?????!!!!!! I was careful to tidy it al up before taking the picture.... Now I would really prefer you would not voice so unfair remarks on a public forum... Francisca might read my mail and you'd be only fuelling her obsessive complaning about my alledged propensity for leaving my woorkroom in pig sty status, every time I came to finish a model. A couple of years ago we visited Len in London and I had to listen to her for a whole month.... "see... why can't you just be as organised and Len... everything so tidy and clean... no plastic dust... no paint on the ground, no tissues sticking of thinners lying around... no this... no that......" Women.... Well, there are exceptions.... Better shut up now..... ;-) Regards Pedro > > Shane > > (who should be the last person to cast aspersions on ones tidiness) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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It sure wastes a lot of each cartridge on each pass .. unlike an inkjet that just shoots ink when it is in the correct location, the alps cartridge is winding over the entire image whether it prints or not .. I rewound part of it to see how much was used and there were lots of missed spaces. .. However it is almost time to work on IM and WS again, so decals will shortly be on hiatus until the new month. As I am sure I have said before .. there are just too many ideas to do. One other idea is if someone wants to pay in advance by ordering some alps supplies, this amount can then be put against future orders. ie when I do a set that the buyer wants, I put it aside to be sent with the rest of their items when the total amount is reached. Special orders based on markings I have profiled already are available, but there is an added cost to doing them on demand as it does take time to get everything set up. Still trying to get pricing worked out to be fair to everyone. Hopefully by the time Chris and I get our new site going we will have this worked out. Bob ---------- >From: "Brent Theobald" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals >Date: Thu, Jan 17, 2002, 11:35 am > > Hey Bob! > > So, do you have a production schedule or are you just printing on a whim? > I'd like to know what your schedule is so I can budget for it. > > I can't decide if I want you to speed up (more decals) or slow down (less > money). > > I still need to send you another $10 for AEF and Salmson decals. Sheesh! > > Later! > > Brent > > "My wife and I have the secret to making a marriage last: Two times a week, > we go to a nice restaurant, have a little wine, some good food and > companionship. She goes Tuesdays, I go Fridays." > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:47:54 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another decale idea Message-ID: <101130057301@smtp.vphos.net> Everything I do is originally in 1/48 scale (except the SVAs for WS .. but that is another story - I still don't know what scale I did them at :-). these are done in vector graphics, so they can be scaled to whatever size desired provided I know the formula. Fratz contains the cowl, fuselage trim, name and tailplane stripes. no crosses or fuselage bands Yup. . too many ideas. .. Bob ---------- >From: "Mark Shannon" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Another decale idea >Date: Thu, Jan 17, 2002, 11:50 am > > Bob, > > What scale are you working on the 'Fratz' Fokker D.VI? I'd love to have > those for the Eduard kit that is sitting in the to-do pile. (Yes, I do > intend to finish another model, someday....). I suppose it is scalable, > but I didn't know your plans. > > ..Mark. > > Another one you might work on is the Bavarian Lion seal on Eduard von > Schleich's D.V and Fokker D.VII. As an article about a year ago in "Over > the Front" showed, this was not as depicted in the available aftermarket > sheets - it is handed and the lion faces forward on both sides. This is a > popular enough scheme we ought to do it right. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:52:08 EST From: PetersList@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: wire wheels.. you spoke some Message-ID: <10d.bedae1e.29789378@aol.com> In a message dated 17/01/02 20:37:27 GMT Standard Time, rossmoor@bigpond.net.au writes: << http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/framesetpm.html >> Thanks Ross. I just want to have a go to see if I can do it . cheers Peter L ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4082 **********************