WWI Digest 4079 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Fw: More Eduard WW-1 airplane kits 4 sale on eBay - links by "Mike Franklin" 2) Re: Oil stains was: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "Hans Trauner" 3) Re: French Roundels - was: Re: Hello - Salmson decals by Peter Fedders 4) C&C (US) on ebay by tbittners@sprintmail.com 5) Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals by tbittners@sprintmail.com 6) Re: Bertra=?ISO-8859-1?B?3w==?= Albatros D.III by "Bob Pearson" 7) MisterKit Christmas by "Muth and Zulick" 8) RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow by "Laskodi" 9) Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals by Peter Fedders 10) RE: Surfacer Qns by "Laskodi" 11) RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow by "Hans Trauner" 12) RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow by tbittners@sprintmail.com 13) RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow by "Lee M." 14) RE: Surfacer Qns by "ot811" 15) RE: Hello by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 16) RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 17) RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 18) Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals by "Michael Kendix" 19) Kurt Wolff's Albatros by "Laskodi" 20) Sopwith Triplane Middle Wing Template by "Brent Theobald" 21) Re: French Roundels - was: Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "Pedro Soares" 22) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 23) Re: Oil stains by KnnthS@aol.com 24) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=2020Re:=20[WWI]=20Bertra=DF=20Albatros=20?= by KnnthS@aol.com 25) RE: New addition by Shane Weier 26) Re: PKZ-2 by Todd Hayes 27) Re: "One Airmans War" by "cameron rile" 28) RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow by "Hans Trauner" 29) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bertra=DF_Albatros=2C_Jasta_30?= by "Hans Trauner" 30) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BWWI=5D_Re:_20Re:_=5BWWI=5D_Bertra=DF_Albatros_?= by "Hans Trauner" 31) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BWWI=5D_Bertra=DF_Albatros=2C_Jasta_30?= by "Hans Trauner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:01:27 -0800 From: "Mike Franklin" To: Subject: Fw: More Eduard WW-1 airplane kits 4 sale on eBay - links Message-ID: <004001c19eb7$d284b200$e4ecfc9e@picker> Eduard 1/48 Sopwith Triplane http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690208620 Eduard 1/48 Hannover CL.IIIa http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690212875 Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VI http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690215164 Eduard 1/48 Pfalz D.III Voss http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690216884 Eduard 1/48 Albatros D.V http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690218330 Eduard 1/48 Fokker D.VIII http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690221234 Eduard 1/48 Albatros D.III Red Baron Mkgs. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690223588 Eduard 1/48 Nieuport 117 Billy Bishop Mkgs. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690224975 Classic Airframes 1/48 SBC-4 Helldiver http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690226851 Fine Molds 1/72 1932 Nakajima A2N1-2 Biplane http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1690230968 -- Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA USA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:07:31 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Oil stains was: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <006701c19eb8$aafc0a20$6ead72d4@FRITZweb> > > > Sooooo.....One could expect the average used rotary to appear > > to be covered > > in a clearish brown oily film then? Hmmm, I don't think so. What about centrifugal force? The oil was thrown into the cowling and the fuselage. And please take a look at http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Ger/Fok_DrI/fok04.jpg. > > > > Also how much of this muck was regularly cleaned off? I have read somewhere that the residue was scraped off with wooden scrapers. And there seems to be some sort of development ( or , maybe, development in paint quality only). I have done recently some research on early Pfalz A types and Fokker E.I types. The fuselages are not only heavily stained, but the oil seems to crawl literally into the fabric. The fuselages are very dark and blotchy. And the pilots wore long, long woolen scarfs around the neck and the long ends stucked into the waist belt just to use the ends for cleaning the goggles! This amount of staining I never saw on a 1917 Fokker or any othe late rotary driven a/c. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:14:55 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Roundels - was: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Jan Vihonen wrote: > Matt, > > What was wrong with A/G roundels? The white printed only partly under > the red and showing through in two different shades? > > Could this problem be fixed if the decal is attached on top of white > painted circle of same diameter, do you think? Yes, I have tried it and it works. It removes 95% of the problem and the rest is removed if you eventually spray with dull or semigloss peter > > Just a thought (implying some extra work), > > Jan > > > Now here *is* a use for the A/G roundels, as he has the blue > > centers separate. Yes, it will be a lot more money, but since > > the A/G red/white is a huge problem, there's nothing we can do at > > the moment until we get decent French roundels. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:20:04 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: C&C (US) on ebay Message-ID: <20020116182004.256EB467C4@eclipse.qis.net> This was posted on the "other" forum. An almost complete set of C&C (US) for sale. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1062819255 Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:24:29 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <20020116182429.63B6D467C4@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:16:42 -0500 (EST), Peter Fedders wrote: > I have tried it and it works. It removes 95% of the problem and the rest > is removed if you eventually spray with dull or semigloss Really? Cool! Now, how did you cut your underlying white decal? Or, I wonder if spraying a circle of white would work? Hmmm...this does open up possibilities. (Although, if you're going to spray the white, why not spray the red as well. Just thinking out loud, here.) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:11:31 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bertra=?ISO-8859-1?B?3w==?= Albatros D.III Message-ID: <101120591301@smtp.vphos.net> Option/s gives you the ß on a Mac, and option/u u gives ü Bob ---------- >From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Bertraß Albatros D.III >Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2002, 6:27 am > > How did you do that? > > > In a message dated Tue, 15 Jan 2002 9:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Bob > Pearson" writes: > >> (wonder if that funny German B which means double ss is going to turn out) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:52:07 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: MisterKit Christmas Message-ID: <003901c19ebe$e889bbc0$0100005a@ptd.net> Sometimes, you just get lucky. I just got my Christmas present from my former exchange student , who lives in Milan. All of the MisterKit WWI paints. Guess I've got to dedicate myself to re-reading all the posts about undercoating now. ;-)) Mike Muth NL: Greivous Angel by Grahm Parsons NB: Esci D VII in 1/72 from Jasta Boelcke...almost finished ICM Pfalz E VI in lozenge....still have a bit to do rigging wise ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:49:54 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow Message-ID: <001b01c19ebe$966ec060$343819d0@f4hn201> <<>> In the sunny state of California, there are thousands of places that offer the Kodak Picture CD service that Dame K (and others rave about). All Wolf Camera stores (that now have been sold to Ritz) have it. And I must also offer my rave reviews of the Kodak Picture CD service, it is fantastic (better than anything you can do with your scanner), relatively cheap, and fast. So now you fellow listee's have no excuse for not posting pics of your stuff here! Before I converted to a wholly digital system, I did some test runs with it and the results were superb. However, I must say since converting to a digital system I am never going back to film! IMNSHO, for model photography there is no better way! ----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:53:23 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: I find that trying to mix a color to match that on a commercial decal to be impossible - at least for me. Thus I reject that idea. I use a good compass where a screw adjustment can change the radius by a small fraction of a mm and one arm of the compass is a knife. These are easily purchased in an art store. Then I measure the decal and set the compass radius accordingly. However, this is never quite right so I cut circular pieces of white paper and make adjustments until it is right. If the white circle is too big it will stick out like a sore thumb. If it is too smal the edge of the (red?) decal whil be ad fifferent color than the rest! After the adjustments I cut white circles from white decal paper. That's it. I put on the white decal and the colored one over it the next day. This also solves another problem especially with French 5-color wings. That is the decal looks different over dark and light paints which is bad if the same decal goes over both. I find this problem to varying degrees with all makes of decals - none cover perfectly. It is a bit of trouble but it works peter On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 tbittners@sprintmail.com wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:16:42 -0500 (EST), Peter Fedders wrote: > > > I have tried it and it works. It removes 95% of the problem and the rest > > is removed if you eventually spray with dull or semigloss > > Really? Cool! Now, how did you cut your underlying white decal? Or, I wonder if spraying a circle of white would work? Hmmm...this does open up possibilities. (Although, if you're going to spray the white, why not spray the red as well. Just thinking out loud, here.) > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:56:11 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: RE: Surfacer Qns Message-ID: <002301c19ebf$77923fe0$343819d0@f4hn201> <<>> Whoa, I have used both of these products and they are indispensable for my modeling. With regards to spraying, the Mr Surfacer 500 is far too thick to airbrush, I simply "paint" it on seams with an old paintbrush, let fully dry and then sand away. No problems whatsoever. I also airbrush Mr Surfacer 1000 with no problems but I do thin it with Mr. Color Thinner 50:50 first. Airbrushing it on allows you to cover small imperfections without sanding, just buff smooth (after drying!) with a clean cloth. This stuff is almost as important to me as CA and liquid cement! HTH ---------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:14:04 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow Message-ID: <001b01c19ec1$f71352c0$93ad72d4@FRITZweb> . However, I must say since > converting to a digital system I am never going back to film! IMNSHO, for > model photography there is no better way! > ----------Bob > Yeah, Bob, you maybe right. But I am looking still for the camera. My problem is depth of field. I could find only two types of cameras: Simple lenses with no way to adjust apertures ( and I would like to adjust f22!) or extremely good lenses with extremely high prices ( 4500 € / $ and above). Are there no cameras which I can afford and have acceptable lenses? Hans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:16:46 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow Message-ID: <20020116191646.18410467C4@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:13:13 -0500 (EST), Hans Trauner wrote: > Yeah, Bob, you maybe right. But I am looking still for the camera. My > problem is depth of field. I could find only two types of cameras: Simple > lenses with no way to adjust apertures ( and I would like to adjust f22!) or > extremely good lenses with extremely high prices ( 4500 € / $ and above). > Are there no cameras which I can afford and have acceptable lenses? The camera I received for Christmas could be the one you're looking for. It's a Fujifilm 2600Z that has a "macro" mode that appears to do really well for models (I have taken a few pics of models with it - more soon). It goes for around US$300 or less, so it may be more in your price range. When I start taking completed model pics with it, I'll post some. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:35:53 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow Message-ID: <3C45D619.50A4ABE6@x25.net> The Kodak places I am talking about is owned, run, and operated by Kodak or a professional processor franchise holder. There are usually only one or two per state. One in Dallas is called Qualex. The corner grocery store may have an automated device with a somewhat trained employee or a sub-lease arrangement with a private franchise holder but it is not run by Kodak. Big difference. Wolf and Ritz are excellent and to each his own. Lee M. In older times I sent the Film rolls, packs or cartridges directly to Eastman Kodak in Rochester, New York. If you go to Kinkos you can print your own digital photos and make copies of other photos on a Kodak machine. That doesn't make it Kodak processed. I must agree that properly done digital is really fine as long as you have the suitable camera and get educated as to the system needs and short comings.. I get along with my 990 Nikon just fine. I will never quit using 35 mm at the same time. With lenses up to 500 mm length it would be foolish to stop using them. Lee M. Laskodi wrote: > > << in some other place. They have one or two in each state so far as I > know. They make the CD at the time the film is processed and it is very > good work. >>> > In the sunny state of California, there are thousands of places that offer > the Kodak Picture CD service that Dame K (and others rave about). All Wolf > Camera stores (that now have been sold to Ritz) have it. And I must also > offer my rave reviews of the Kodak Picture CD service, it is fantastic > (better than anything you can do with your scanner), relatively cheap, and > fast. So now you fellow listee's have no excuse for not posting pics of your > stuff here! Before I converted to a wholly digital system, I did some test > runs with it and the results were superb. However, I must say since > converting to a digital system I am never going back to film! IMNSHO, for > model photography there is no better way! > ----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:42:40 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: RE: Surfacer Qns Message-ID: <01cb01c19ec6$093906d0$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Bob, Thanks (and whoa to you too). Can you elaborate a bit? I am probably not using the stuff correctly. For seam filling I find it shrinks a lot, and it dries very hard into ugly stubborn mounds that are difficult to sand down. Can you explain what you mean by small imperfections. I tried without success to paint S1000 on fine scratches caused by coarse grit sandpaper. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:44:55 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Hello Message-ID: > many thanks to all the guys and girl who send me > welcome-mails especialy that they have not been finished yet! ;o) Greetings from Poland Andreas! Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:24:30 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow Message-ID: Should be, their scanners cost around 175,000 quid! N >(better than anything you can do with your scanner), -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:27:40 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow Message-ID: Yes, they are called 35mm!.............. Seriously, if all the technology is screwed up because we can't get the aperture we want at a reasonable price, then the technology isn't right.... N >Are there no cameras which I can afford and have acceptable lenses? > >Hans -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:34:49 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French Roundels - was: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: >From: tbittners@sprintmail.com >On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:49:00 -0500 (EST), Michael Kendix > wrote: > >>I was wondering about this French blue colour. Is it really that >>light >>bluish-grey or just light blue? Doesn't age affect the light >>blue, >>fading it towards a grey? > >Take a look at Guynemer's SPAD 7. Looks bluish-grey to me. ;-) Yes, and the Caudron G.4 but those things are over 80 years old. I think it must be light blue but what shade? Did the French change the blue colour for WW2? I thought they used a light blue on their roundels during that war too? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:31:11 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: Kurt Wolff's Albatros Message-ID: <000901c19ed5$1e6f0720$1b3819d0@f4hn201> I am trying to locate a picture or profile of Kurt Wolff's Albatros. I do not know of any, can any one be of some help here? Thanks, -------------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:51:47 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Sopwith Triplane Middle Wing Template Message-ID: Howdy Gang! I had an idea recently (I know, it's a lonely one). Anyhow, we had a discussion recently about getting the rigging holes "just right". There was talk of fabricating blanks etc. There is a small stash of Eduard Sopwith Triplanes in the defect bin at Roll Models. Apparently the kits did not come with rotary engines but Mercedes. So, I was thinking if you wanted a wing to practice on, to find the exact location to drill, I could mail you one. I'm sure it's a bit late but it's better late than never right? Please contact me off list at brent@rollmodels.com Later! Brent "Did you hear the German snipers griping about the new Euro? Apparently they are missing their marks." _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:21:33 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: French Roundels - was: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <006b01c19edc$276f8be0$787116d5@netcabo.pt> YES!!!! too! ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:40 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: French Roundels - was: Re: Hello - Salmson decals > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:35:12 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > > > So .. for French roundels do folks want separate blue centres to enable them > > to be used or replaced as need be. > > YES!! :-) > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:32:00 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: Amen to that, Warren. As an EM in a (ot alert) B-45 bomber sqdn in England in the '50s, the "additional duty" assigned for minor goofups was spending weekends on a hydraulic lift type maintenance stand polishing the aluminum-skinned bombers. It seemed that the surface area of an aircraft could be measured in acres. Supposedly, polishing added significantly to the top airspeed. Mike Kavanaugh No wonder I have never enjoyed washing and waxing my car! In a message dated Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:37:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, "ibs4421" writes: > This "cleaning > bit" is the bane of EM the world over, and throughout time. It doesn't > matter if it will do any good to "clean it", or if "it" can be cleaned at > all, but by jove you had dang better sure be going through the motions of > doing so, or have some kind of proof to the Officer of the Day that you have > or it's extra duty for you. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:52:11 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oil stains Message-ID: <164.73c1353.29775e1b@aol.com> Hans writes: << I have read somewhere that the residue was scraped off with wooden scrapers. And there seems to be some sort of development ( or , maybe, development in paint quality only). I have done recently some research on early Pfalz A types and Fokker E.I types. The fuselages are not only heavily stained, but the oil seems to crawl literally into the fabric. The fuselages are very dark and blotchy. >> Barry @ Rosemount wrote me a few years back when I asked him where he was at with all the Voss cowl business. What he sent me back was a transcription of a conversation with the mechanic who worked on Voss' F1. His comment was pretty explicit regarding both color and the residue/matter all of us are describing. ok: I didn't save the damn e mail..... So I can't share.. "but that's what he said" Gooey stuff and wooden scrapers--some of it up to 1 1/2 inches thick. Go figure. The mechanic wasn't particularly 'wistful' in his recollection... ; ) Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:54:08 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=2020Re:=20[WWI]=20Bertra=DF=20Albatros=20?= Message-ID: <117.b022764.29775e90@aol.com> Hans says: << Please don't ask why. >> ok. then, "why not?" Ken, banking into cloud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:43:50 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New addition Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA4E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > Just added Pedro's latest, a MAC Phonix D.I. Superb work, > Pedro!! Yes indeed, very nice. Mind you, your desk needs a tidy up ;-) Shane (who should be the last person to cast aspersions on ones tidiness) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. 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The pictures on the FMP > A-H book make me think > most of it it's different shades of metal...has > anyone any clue? > > Thanks > > Pedro > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 102 18:58:00 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: "One Airmans War" Message-ID: Ross, >What are the photos in it like seeing >as there are 100 of them?? Lots of good rare shots of Martinsydes, some good shots of rare BE's. A couple of good shots of the RE8's. The Biff shots arent really anything new. But plenty of good shots of folks and life around the aerodromes. One of the main benefits of the book is Joe recorded serials of the aircraft in his diaries! He maps events to serials. cam www.australianflyingcorps.org ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:11:53 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Color films was:Red or Yellow Message-ID: <001301c19eeb$917bd700$95a072d4@FRITZweb> Exactly, Nigel! I am running several 35 mm models and for model photography my favourite is a 25 year old completely non-automatic, fully mechanic german 'Revue'. You get what you want. All you have to know is how photography works. ASA, time and aperture, ready. But on the other site I am bored about bad prints which I receive too late and with wrong colours at too high prices. And I want to be faster. Hans > Yes, they are called 35mm!.............. Seriously, if all the > technology is screwed up because we can't get the aperture we want at > a reasonable price, then the technology isn't right.... > N > > >Are there no cameras which I can afford and have acceptable lenses? > > > >Hans > > -- > Nigel Cheffers-Heard > photography + design > > tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 > fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 > mobile: 0771 261 4514 > nigelch@cheffers.co.uk > www.cheffers.co.uk > > Laburnums, Bridge Hill > Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:27:51 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bertra=DF_Albatros=2C_Jasta_30?= Message-ID: <002501c19eed$ccee6da0$95a072d4@FRITZweb> Ooops! Bob, do you mean Lt. von Betraß, Jasta 30? Dark fuselage and some sort of a comet with rippons? I have to correct me: Profipack Albatros D III by Eduard has it. Eduard described it 'german purple' fuselage and the rippon comet is printed in orange with white edgings. Nowarra says: Black fuselage with dark grey comet. I have seen this purple/orange version somewhere else, but my synapses do not work properly at the moment (01.25 a.m.). Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:34:26 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BWWI=5D_Re:_20Re:_=5BWWI=5D_Bertra=DF_Albatros_?= Message-ID: <003501c19eee$b81e8ee0$95a072d4@FRITZweb> Because I do not know why a letter can get 'sharp'. There are no male or female letters. Why do we need then a 'sharp' letter...? H. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: 20Re: [WWI] Bertraß Albatros > Hans says: > > << Please don't ask why. >> > > ok. > > then, > "why not?" > > Ken, banking into cloud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:35:39 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BWWI=5D_Bertra=DF_Albatros=2C_Jasta_30?= Message-ID: <004701c19eee$e36f1ec0$95a072d4@FRITZweb> Ribbons! Ribbons! I have to go to bed... H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:26 AM Subject: [WWI] Bertraß Albatros, Jasta 30 > Ooops! Bob, do you mean Lt. von Betraß, Jasta 30? Dark fuselage and some > sort of a comet with rippons? I have to correct me: Profipack Albatros D > III by Eduard has it. Eduard described it 'german purple' fuselage and the > rippon comet is printed in orange with white edgings. Nowarra says: Black > fuselage with dark grey comet. I have seen this purple/orange version > somewhere else, but my synapses do not work properly at the moment (01.25 > a.m.). > > Hans > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4079 **********************