WWI Digest 4074 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Red or Yellow by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 2) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "ibs4421" 3) Re:Top wing diamond, was Tire Color for Pfalz D.III by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "ibs4421" 5) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by tbittners@sprintmail.com 6) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 7) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "Bob Pearson" 8) Re: Hello by "Steven Perry" 9) RE: Aircraft dimensions by "Thomas Solinski" 10) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by David Fleming 11) RE: Red or Yellow by David Fleming 12) Re:Top wing diamond, was Tire Color for Pfalz D.III by KnnthS@aol.com 13) Alb J.I & "Horses Don't Fly" by Morg17ms@aol.com 14) Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 15) Re: Aircraft dimensions by Shane Weier 16) RE: How Many Times? by Shane Weier 17) RE: Spandaus, . . again! by Shane Weier 18) Re: Salmson decals by Morg17ms@aol.com 19) albi landing gear color lowdown by "Mordecai Sheftall" 20) Re: Hello by "Tom Plesha" 21) Re: Aircraft dimensions by "Thomas Solinski" 22) Re: Hello by "Thomas Solinski" 23) quiet ? by "Tom Plesha" 24) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 25) Re: quiet ? by "Ross Moorhouse" 26) Re: Hello by "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" 27) Re: quiet ? by "Bob Pearson" 28) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "Bob Pearson" 29) Bertra=?ISO-8859-1?B?3w==?= Albatros D.III by "Bob Pearson" 30) RE: Spandaus, . . again! by Ray Boorman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:51:44 -0800 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: Red or Yellow Message-ID: > < warm...>> > > (I whack my forehead) I'd heard that! I used Fuji film on my last > photo-taking session. No wonder ... > Another problem with Fuji film is that they push the saturation up a bit as well. So colors are more vibrant and contrast is a bit higher. This can also be accentuated by developing Fuji film at a Kodak plant. Fuji is great if you want your photos of fuchsias to really pop out, but for trying to capture accurate colors, go Kodak. In fact, for film I'd go Kodak slide film. You can get a very decent slide scanner for around $250 or so these days, and slides are much more true to the original. Sincerely, Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Illustrator Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:54:18 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <002f01c19dfe$6b73f4e0$8a3dfad1@dwfjv01> How's about some French roundels in 1/72nd Bob? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:53:25 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re:Top wing diamond, was Tire Color for Pfalz D.III Message-ID: <13c.7c113ae.2975e2b5@aol.com> In a message dated 1/14/02 11:01:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, muzu@ptd.net writes: << If you look at some of the colors that are considered "tan" they very easily could also be described as "pink". Tan wheel covers were fairly common in the early 20's... I remember in 1959 seeing my grandfather drive a car with tan wheels (or maybe just sidewalls????) >> It's all making me think about pink erasers, tan "art gum". I guess there are precedents for rubber in strange colors. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:02:21 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <005301c19dff$8b6a37e0$8a3dfad1@dwfjv01> Bob, For that matter, how's about some really killer French Nie. 17 decals for the Revell Nie. 17 that I'll be modifying just to prove to Matt I'm not a pansy. See waht you started Andreas? You haven't been on the list but a couple of hours, and you got us a new set of decals! :) Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:04:37 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <20020115200437.0B523467CE@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:54:32 -0500 (EST), ibs4421 wrote: > How's about some French roundels in 1/72nd Bob? YES!! Time to dump the A/G ones!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:11:27 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <80.1604cb7e.2975e6ef@aol.com> In a message dated Tue, 15 Jan 2002 2:24:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:09:22 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > > I'm probably shooting myself in the foot, but... > > Okay, I *DEMAND* you print them. > > There, how's that? ;-) In dinky scale, it's somewhat like a chihuahua trying to emulate a bull mastiff. :-)) Mike Kavanaugh Bob, I like both USAS and French in 1/48. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:22:18 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <101112623601@smtp.vphos.net> Right now I'm trying to just do decals for those aircraft have illustrated already .. I'm really supposed to be working on a book on Fre .... whoops. . almost said it .. due in a month from now. However I do have the following French Nieuport 17s done Ni.17 N2442 N.87 Chat Noire Ni17 Dorme N.3 a/c 12 with a blue/white cicogne on two tone camo Ni17 Lemaire N.3 outline of a head on the rudder, red cigogne Nieuport 17 3509 bee on the fuselage And the following British ones Nieuport 17 A213 Nieuport 17 A6684 (29Sqn) Nieuport 17 B1546 (29Sqn) Nieuport 21 BINKY Just too damn cool for words NIEUPORT Ni.17 B1552 (40 Sqn) Nieuport Ni.23 B1575 (60 Sqn) Bob ---------- >From: "ibs4421" > Bob, > > For that matter, how's about some really killer French Nie. 17 decals > for the Revell Nie. 17 that I'll be modifying just to prove to Matt I'm not > a pansy. > See waht you started Andreas? You haven't been on the list but a couple of > hours, and you got us a new set of decals! :) > > Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:49:51 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <005701c19e06$30d76760$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > I am Andreas from Germany. Now I build WWI-aircraft models since about 10 years. > If you are interested, visit my homepage under: http://fly.to/jasta > > I search for decals in 1/48 for a Salmson 2A2. Has anyone an idea if such decals > exists and from whom I can get them? Andreas Welcome to the List from St. Pete Florida. I have the Wings 48 kit of the Salmson which has all the decals for USAAS Salmsons. I am going to do mine as the 1st Aero Sqdn, so you are welcome to the markings from any of the other USAAS squadrons who used Salmsons. Contact me off list at sperry03@tampabay.rr.com and we can exchange snail addresses. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:25:23 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: RE: Aircraft dimensions Message-ID: <007801c19e1b$e7ec1940$a6a20d41@okcnc1.ok.home.com> is it the height of the airframe or the height to the tip of the > >vertically postioned propellor or is it influenced by the attitude of the > >aircraft ie, sitting on its tailskid or in an in-flight attitude? > It has been my humble 25 years of experience that we in the industry usually talk about projected dimensions. That is with the aircraft in the normal ground sitting position how big of a hangar do you need. In the case of height, to the top of the vertical fin, unless like in the case of a biplane the top wing is the highest point. The propellers aren't normally counted because you can turn them to a lower position. Can't do that with a fixed surface. But then you may often see an "engineering" picture with the aircraft raised to an in-flight level position with the tail up on a saw horse. Now you get a projected dimensions equal to the actual length of the airplane , but you get the tail higher than you will ever get it in any other configuration. Simple answer to the highest fixed point on the airplane in a at rest position. That determines the hangar dimensions. HTH Tom S your local FAA engineer. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:38:35 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <3C44BD7A.F1AB9264@dial.pipex.com> Bob Pearson wrote: > > However I do have the following French Nieuport 17s done > Ni.17 N2442 N.87 Chat Noire > Ni17 Dorme N.3 a/c 12 with a blue/white cicogne on two tone camo > Ni17 Lemaire N.3 outline of a head on the rudder, red cigogne > Nieuport 17 3509 bee on the fuselage > Not for me > > And the following British ones > Nieuport 17 A213 > Nieuport 17 A6684 (29Sqn) > Nieuport 17 B1546 (29Sqn) > Nieuport 21 BINKY Just too damn cool for words > NIEUPORT Ni.17 B1552 (40 Sqn) > Nieuport Ni.23 B1575 (60 Sqn) > I'd buy those - in fact I'd go halvers with any one who wanted only the French in 1/72 . Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:39:14 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Red or Yellow Message-ID: <3C44BDA2.146F3BC@dial.pipex.com> Chris Banyai-Riepl wrote: > > < > warm...>> > > > > (I whack my forehead) I'd heard that! I used Fuji film on my last > > photo-taking session. No wonder ... > > > Another problem with Fuji film is that they push the saturation up a bit as > well. So colors are more vibrant and contrast is a bit higher. That's why I like Reala for record photos & portraits. Velvia etc is great for landscapes & vivid colours, but Reala keeps things "real" and properly balanced. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:47:34 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re:Top wing diamond, was Tire Color for Pfalz D.III Message-ID: In a message dated 15/1/02 11:55:21 am, KarrArt@aol.com writes: << I guess there are precedents for rubber in strange colors. >> well, and jade-look at the filling stations.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:53:13 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Alb J.I & "Horses Don't Fly" Message-ID: <7d.20adabb0.29763709@aol.com> --part1_7d.20adabb0.29763709_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just got my Jager Albatros J.I and I'm impressed! Appears well cast but haven't had time to check dimensions against GAs. The 'neatest' little thing that caught my fancy were the exquisite Albatros logo decals - man they are nice! Too bad there aren't a couple dozen for other projects. Finished reading "Horses Don't Fly" by Frederick Libby - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!! Althought the first 101 of 270 pages is ot it is still worth reading, as it sets the tone and character of the book. Much first hand info on flying and observing in the RFC, especially good details re FE2b's.... eg. describes the pilot's "peter tube" (no, I don't mean pitot) being shot away - pilot needed some way of releaving himself on long flights (several hours in FE's).......I guess the observer just wizzed over the side!! Goes into much detail of kitting up, etc and how the boys delt with personal day to day issues.......read it! Tom Morgan --part1_7d.20adabb0.29763709_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just got my Jager Albatros J.I and I'm impressed!  Appears well cast but haven't had time to check dimensions against GAs.  The 'neatest' little thing that caught my fancy were the exquisite Albatros logo decals - man they are nice!  Too bad there aren't a couple dozen for other projects.

Finished reading "Horses Don't Fly" by Frederick Libby - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!   Althought the first 101 of 270 pages is ot it is still worth reading, as it sets the tone and character of the book.  Much first hand info on flying and observing in the RFC, especially good details re FE2b's.... eg. describes the pilot's "peter tube" (no, I don't mean pitot) being shot away - pilot needed some way of releaving himself on long flights (several hours in FE's).......I guess the observer just wizzed over the side!!  Goes into much detail of kitting up, etc and how the boys delt with personal day to day issues.......read it!

Tom Morgan
--part1_7d.20adabb0.29763709_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:06:36 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels Message-ID: <3C44B5FB.ABEB3264@verizon.net> Alberto, The forward fuselage of Nieuport fighters were covered in fabric covered (on the exterior surface) detachable wooden panels. These panels were made up of this strips of Tulip wood laid out in a fashion similar to that used in Pfalz aircraft. That is one layer laid out at a 45 degree angle, a layer of cloth and then a second layer of wood stripos laid at 90 degrees to the first layer. For strength, water proofing and to avoid splintering a layer of cloth was laid over the outside surface of the finished panels. Even the inspection hole covers were wood. Alvie "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" wrote: > I have always believed that the front fuselage panels of the Ni 17, and > especially the lateral ones, were fabric covered. > > At least one contemporary picture suggests that I am wrong. Thanks to Ing. > Maurizio Longoni, I got a copy of a close-up picture of a Ni 17's external > nose surfaces, which clearly shows the typical wooden strips which made > those panels and which I was used to see in pictures of cockpits only. > > Was this standard practice ? If so, were there differences in this respect > between French and Italian productions ? > > Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:42:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Aircraft dimensions Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA39@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mark says, in reply to Tom: > >Probably a silly question but its been niggling me...! > > Not a silly question and one that can cause some virtual > space knock-down-drag-out fights when new model kits issue. > I don't think there is any 'international standard' for > measuring dimensions on these or several other objects in the > world. An engineer, looking at the plans, would probably use > the same kind of measurements that he would on a ship - > 'between perpendiculars' from the nose of the fuselage itself > to the rudder post, and overall. Probably both of them taken > along the axis line of the aircraft fuselage. Um, yerrssss. But which axis? That *I* know of, we have Fuselage centre line Fuselage datum Thrust line ....all of which may vary depending on who is defining them. Then we have length over ground (in standing or in flight position) both depending on who is defining them too. And then we have the question of whether the length includes or excludes things like lights, spinners, static wicks (not OT though!) or not, and whether they include the rudder made at factory "X" which was a slightly rounder shape than that from "Y" and thereby a couple of inches/centimetres longer and so on.... Width too. Do *you* know whether the dimension you read is actually measured in correctly rigged position, or whether it's the sum of the length of two wings plus one centre section, taken from manufacturers drawings, and doesn't account for foreshortening by the dihedral? Biggest can of worms ever. I had a knockdown dragout snail mail argument with a magazine editor once, over reviews which decried the accuracy of models which were out by a millimetre or so, on the basis of dimensions taken from "The Boys Own Book of Nifty Aeroplanes" or another reference of similar reputation. I thought I lost, but the reviews changed.....eventually. Incidentally, the near impossibility of finding a reference which *does* tell you exactly how a quoted measurement was made has given me cause to cock an eyebrow at modellers who declare certain drawings to be inaccurately scaled because they don't match the published dimensions. *Which* published dimensions? How measured? Large discrepancies are one thing - but ....... Shane (the cynic, who believes in precise modelling but won't guarantee it's accurate - for ye engineers etc. who appreciate the difference) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:47:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: How Many Times? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA3B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Diego > D. > from abroad... Does Wanda know about her? Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:55:21 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Spandaus, . . again! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA3C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Volker says: > beside those you already mentioned there´s also a Eduard > Spandau set (maybe > now discontinued, but they should still be widely available), Reissued with a new number. However, one or other of Eduards 1/72 Spandau jackets (and I think it's the new ones) is well overscale. You get decidedly fat Spandaus unless you overlap the edges by quite a margin and then the ends won't fit. My advice - look carefully at any of these before buying Shane (stuck with 4 sets bought via the net) > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:08:27 EST From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Salmson decals Message-ID: --part1_f4.15217ac7.2976106b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, I'd take a set in 1:48. Tom Morgan --part1_f4.15217ac7.2976106b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, I'd take a set in 1:48.

Tom Morgan
--part1_f4.15217ac7.2976106b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:49:20 +0900 From: "Mordecai Sheftall" To: Subject: albi landing gear color lowdown Message-ID: <004601c19e2a$73976040$554f07d3@computer> Anybody have the lowdown on Albi D.II landing gear color? Some folks have it as light grey, others (Rimell, I think) have it as the same light blue dope as the lower wing surfaces and wheel covers. Your valuable opinions would be appreciated. Bucky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:27:31 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <000901c19e0b$712280c0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Welcome from Southeast Michigan Later Tom > > I am Andreas from Germany. Now I build WWI-aircraft models since about 10 > years. > > If you are interested, visit my homepage under: http://fly.to/jasta > > > > I search for decals in 1/48 for a Salmson 2A2. Has anyone an idea if such > decals > > exists and from whom I can get them? > > Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:32:56 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Aircraft dimensions Message-ID: <011901c19e1c$f64d0480$a6a20d41@okcnc1.ok.home.com> > > Imagine the logistics of measuring something like a Gotha > or a HP 0/400, it's not just something you put a tape > measure to! > /Neil C: > Oh but you do! I once "shot in" a KC-135 that had the entire nose broken off midway between the nosewheel and the wing LE. My tools were a surveyors theodilite, (the line that you shoot with this is called a transit) plumbobs and a 100 foot tape measure! With a little jacking and a lot of contractor personnel sweat, the nose and the rest of the airplane were with in 1/32 of where they were supposed to be so that we could patch them back together. Toms ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:41:55 -0600 From: "Thomas Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <013a01c19e1e$3754db00$a6a20d41@okcnc1.ok.home.com> > > I search for decals in 1/48 for a Salmson 2A2. Has anyone an idea if such decals > exists and from whom I can get them? Andreas, welcome from Oklahoma! Vac wings 48 of Grand Rapids Michigan produced a beautiful Salmson with markings for 10 different aircraft! I guess that's one way to influence multiple sales. I'd be willing to part with a set of squadron markings and the associated serial numbers. I need to keep the US cockades though. If you'll give me you home email I'll send you a scan of the available markings. Tom Solinski ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:57:55 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: quiet ? Message-ID: <000701c19e28$d5818440$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi- Is the list quiet or down ? Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:44:53 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <3C44B0E4.391E678F@verizon.net> Those are air intake pipes for the carburetor. HTH Alvie ibs4421 wrote: > Lee, as usual, teaches me a great deal by writing this: > > > The exhaust goes directly into the air inside the Cowling and then the > > unburned Castroil drips for hours after the plane lands. > > > > So there are no exhaust systems to be found or seen. > > > > Not a point for argument. They simply do not exist. > > > > OK Fellers, you could put my knowledge of rotaries on the head of a pin. > The above being stated and taken as fact, my question is this: What are > those two holes/outlets/pipe thingees on each side of the fuselage of a Dr.1 > for? > > Slowly Becoming Less Ignorant, > > Warren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:27:20 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: quiet ? Message-ID: <004d01c19e35$535acf00$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Just quiet mate. :-) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Plesha" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: [WWI] quiet ? | Hi- | Is the list quiet or down ? | Later | Tom | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:17:10 -0500 From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado, NSWCC" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <3C44B875.3359E15D@verizon.net> Andreas, Welcome from the Washington D.C. area. You'll really like this bunch of loonies. Alvie Steven Perry wrote: > > I am Andreas from Germany. Now I build WWI-aircraft models since about 10 > years. > > If you are interested, visit my homepage under: http://fly.to/jasta > > > > I search for decals in 1/48 for a Salmson 2A2. Has anyone an idea if such > decals > > exists and from whom I can get them? > > Andreas > Welcome to the List from St. Pete Florida. > > I have the Wings 48 kit of the Salmson which has all the decals for USAAS > Salmsons. I am going to do mine as the 1st Aero Sqdn, so you are welcome to > the markings from any of the other USAAS squadrons who used Salmsons. > > Contact me off list at sperry03@tampabay.rr.com and we can exchange snail > addresses. > sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:37:40 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: quiet ? Message-ID: <101114875601@smtp.vphos.net> Would appear to have been partially down ... I sent some messages a few hours ago that have yet to appear Bob ---------- > > > | Hi- > | Is the list quiet or down ? > | Later > | Tom > | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:38:07 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <101112718101@smtp.vphos.net> Only problem with roundels is to make them of a size that is usable on the various kits. I suppose I could add them to the generic aircraft sets for double the price :-) That way they are specific to that aircraft type. . and then rudder stripes would also be needed Bob ---------- >From: tbittners@sprintmail.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Hello - Salmson decals >Date: Tue, Jan 15, 2002, 12:05 pm > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:54:32 -0500 (EST), ibs4421 wrote: > >> How's about some French roundels in 1/72nd Bob? > > YES!! Time to dump the A/G ones!! > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:38:29 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Bertra=?ISO-8859-1?B?3w==?= Albatros D.III Message-ID: <101112720201@smtp.vphos.net> All, Does any kit provide the markings for Bertraß's D.III .. otherwise that could be done as part of an Albatros sheet. Bob (wonder if that funny German B which means double ss is going to turn out) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:38:33 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: RE: Spandaus, . . again! Message-ID: <20020116023912.NRPG3508.priv-edtnes16-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Warren, whilst you're there you can then solve the Machine Gunners on the grassy noll and the red triplane problem (dont forget to take a snip of the fabric btw) then stay around for a year or two and solve the problem with Udets DVII, buy shares in Mercedes and BMW just after the war ends. Of course another thing to do would be to buy up a DH5, Fokker DR1, Sopwith Dolphin, and store them in a deep deep cave somewhere in the Australian outback or the far north of Canada Say Prince Rupert for example...... Ray >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ibs4421 [mailto:ibs4421@commandnet.net] >> Sent: den 15 januari 2002 15:39 >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: [WWI] RE: Spandaus, . . again! >> >> >> Well Neil, if I could jump into Peabody's "Wayback Machine" I >> could get >> some, but why waste a trip for PE Spandaus? I'd keep on >> truckin' to Voss' >> 'drome and solve the mystery once and fer all! >> >> Warren >> >> > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4074 **********************