WWI Digest 4073 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Aircraft dimensions by "Lee M." 2) RE: Spandaus, . . again! by "ibs4421" 3) RE: Spandaus, . . again! by Crawford Neil 4) Re: Aircraft dimensions by Crawford Neil 5) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "Graham Hunter" 6) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "Lee M." 7) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "Lee M." 8) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "Lee M." 9) Re: Aircraft dimensions by Crawford Neil 10) RE: Spandaus, . . again! by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 11) Hello by a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) 12) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "ot811" 13) Ni 17 front fuselage panels by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 14) RE: Spandaus, . . again! by Crawford Neil 15) RE: Rotary Air Intakes; was Oberusel... by "Graham Hunter" 16) Re: Hello by "Lance Krieg" 17) Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels by "Lance Krieg" 18) Re: Books on flying early aircraft, construction, etc by "ot811" 19) R: Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 20) Re: Hello by Witold Kozakiewicz 21) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "Lee M." 22) RE: Red or Yellow by David Fleming 23) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by "ot811" 24) Re: Hello by tbittners@sprintmail.com 25) Re: Hello by "ibs4421" 26) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "Bob Pearson" 27) Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. by KnnthS@aol.com 28) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by tbittners@sprintmail.com 29) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "Bob Pearson" 30) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "Bob Pearson" 31) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by KnnthS@aol.com 32) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by tbittners@sprintmail.com 33) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by "Bob Pearson" 34) Re: Hello - Salmson decals by tbittners@sprintmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:32:35 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aircraft dimensions Message-ID: <3C444B93.ED83907C@x25.net> Tom, I could be off a bit but I believe the height of an aircraft is from the wheels on the ground to the top of the wing when measured with the fuselage in a level flight position. With modern aircraft having no top wing the tip of the propeller would be the highest measurement, or, the highest spot on the fuselage of a Jet powered aircraft. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX Tom Gourdie wrote: > > This must seem a very basic question but when the height of an aircraft is > provided in a table of dimensions what are the measuring reference points > ie, is it the height of the airframe or the height to the tip of the > vertically postioned propellor or is it influenced by the attitude of the > aircraft ie, sitting on its tailskid or in an in-flight attitude? > > Probably a silly question but its been niggling me...! > > Thanks. > > Tom > > Tom Gourdie > Regional Group Coordinator > Outreach Department > Universities and Colleges Admissions Service > (UCAS) > Registered Office Address : Rosehill > New Barn Lane > Cheltenham > Gloucestershire > GL52 3LZ > UK > E-mail : t.gourdie@ucas.ac.uk > Direct telephone number: +44 (0) 1242 544 878 > Direct fax number: +44 (0) 1242 544 963 > Registered Company No: 2839815 > Registered Charity No: 1024741 > Website: www.ucas.com > > This message is confidential. 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I'm thinking of seeing if the guy in our machine shop at work can make me me a "rolling pin" as the little drill bit I used wasn't quite small enough. Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Spandaus, . . again! > > Hi Folks, > > I have tried Eduard, Tom's Modelworks, Fotocut and CSM and I'd have to give > Tom's an edge over CSM as the top 2. Eduard is good and Fotocut is good > also. Tom's gives you just about every piece there is on a Spandau in 1/72 > scale as well as 1/48!!!! I had to assemble these using my Optivisor's > Loupe!!!! I wanted to see which sets were the most flexible so I tried them > all!! The CSM's are nice especially for 1/72 as the resin saves a lot of > assembly time. All you really need to do is roll the jackets, add a barrel > and glue to the resin stock. By the way, annealing the jackets really > helps, especially if you screw up and need to flatten them again. I just > wave them in a candle flame until orange and let them cool. I also use a > "rolling pin" made of the correct diameter for each scale. A neat tip that > was passed to me By Eric Hight of CSM is to roll the jackets by rocking > them back and fort around your rolling pin on a very stiff piece of packing > foam, like the kind that is used to pack PC components. This really makes > getting perfectly round jackets less difficult. So, IMHO, if you want every > bit of detail and don't mind spending the time and detail work go with > Tom's. If you want more than acceptable detail, especially in 1/72 and you > want a faster assembly time, go with CSM's. Either way, you can't lose.. > > Regards, > John > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:36:38 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Spandaus, . . again! Message-ID: I'm thinking of seeing if the guy in our > machine shop at > work can make me me a "rolling pin" as the little drill bit I > used wasn't > quite small enough. > > Warren > > Try cutting the head off a pin, or a bit of wire. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:38:33 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Aircraft dimensions Message-ID: Imagine the logistics of measuring something like a Gotha or a HP 0/400, it's not just something you put a tape measure to! /Neil C: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:46:53 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <000801c19ddb$dae31b80$770101c0@ghunter> < To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <3C445198.DAF7A0BE@x25.net> They are air intake tubes. That is why they are directed forward into the airstream. The flow of air goes to the end of a very good sized tapering tube, (inside the fuselage forward area) with a carbureture on the end. The air is directed to a box like affair on the end and it pressurizes the carburetor, and the tube, so it helps put the Fuel/Oil/Air mixture into the crankcase of the rotating engine without depending totally on vacuum inside the crankcase. It works almost exactly like a 2 cycle model plane engine except the little engine has a better vacuum The only exhaust system on rotaries are the holes in the cowling to let air and stuff get out. On a DR-1 it is (about) the bottom third of the cowling. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx ibs4421 wrote: > > Lee, as usual, teaches me a great deal by writing this: > > > The exhaust goes directly into the air inside the Cowling and then the > > unburned Castroil drips for hours after the plane lands. > > > > So there are no exhaust systems to be found or seen. > > > > Not a point for argument. They simply do not exist. > > > > OK Fellers, you could put my knowledge of rotaries on the head of a pin. > The above being stated and taken as fact, my question is this: What are > those two holes/outlets/pipe thingees on each side of the fuselage of a Dr.1 > for? > > Slowly Becoming Less Ignorant, > > Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:00:30 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <3C44521E.635B8A41@x25.net> Ken, I caught it going by. Answered just moments ago. Gave the whole lesson. Lee M. New Braunfels,TX KnnthS@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 15/1/02 6:43:16 am, ibs4421@commandnet.net writes: > > << What are > those two holes/outlets/pipe thingees on each side of the fuselage of a Dr.1 > for? >> > > this is all about breathing: > carbs breathe in--pipe thingies---check a sopwith camel kit > and out the backdoor--Lee's School > > Lee? > > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:04:03 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <3C4452F3.E3FDECF6@x25.net> On these tubes there might be an absence of Castor oil just behind them a very short distance. I see it sometimes on the Tommy Morse. But the fuselage is wiped clean very soon after landing so the paint is not damaged. Inside of the cowl and the wheel spreader get a lot from the drips while it sits around. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx Graham Hunter wrote: > > Warren, > > Those pipes are air intakes and you will see them in the same area as the > Dr.I on most rotary powered A/C. > > DOH not put exhaust stains by these as I did on my first WWI build (Sopwith > Tripe). > > HTH, Graham ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:46 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Aircraft dimensions Message-ID: Mark wrote amongst a lot of other interesting stuff: > And one final note, what are the weather conditions and which > aircraft is it. The former is important with these wood and > linen aircraft, where even doped and varnished materials > swell enough to change the last few inches in overall > dimensions. The latter is very important with the hand-built > WWI mass production, where tolerances were set more by > craftspersons than stamping machines. And the same applies to the weight and performance figures we see. I imagine that if you weighed each of a line-up of Camels you would see variations of up to a percent or two. There would be explanations for most of it, amount of fuel,oil,water,armament on board, how many layers of dope, pilot in or out, wet or dry , equipment fit, if the latest mods were on etc. etc. We have nothing better, but I'd take a lot of the figures in specifications with a large pinch of salt. /Neil C. PS. Did you mention tyre pressure Mark? That could do a few inches on a big aircraft. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:21:46 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: Spandaus, . . again! Message-ID: <002801c19de9$38365470$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Warren, > that is no surprise, as I > have never worked > with something like this before. Now, that is no problem, > for there area a > number of aftermarket 1/72nd scale Spandaus available, and > practice makes > perfect, right?? I'm in the same situation! Both D. and Steve Perry sent me CSM Spandaus (thanks guys!), I was assembling one for my ESCI Albatros D.III, the carpet gods requested two small pieces and now I'll have to use both sets to get the machine guns (sorry guys!). Well, they don't look perfect, but I like the way they are now (even without using all pieces available in the set) > Now, from where I sit, it seems there are three makers of > these "devils > paintbrushes": CSM, Fotocut, and Tom's Modelworks. I read that Foto-Cut has something around 15 pieces. It seems too much detail to me, and I want to give Foto-Cut a try. I guess I'll buy a couple of each one, (try to) build them and make my choice. You're not alone, friend! All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:12:35 +0100 From: a.r.martin@t-online.de (Rita) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hello Message-ID: <16QWCR-1gSvxoC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> Hello, I am Andreas from Germany. Now I build WWI-aircraft models since about 10 years. If you are interested, visit my homepage under: http://fly.to/jasta I search for decals in 1/48 for a Salmson 2A2. Has anyone an idea if such decals exists and from whom I can get them? Greetings Andreas Martin Frankfurt/M., Germany ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:26:25 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <004501c19de1$63ae1500$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Lee, You wrote: > pressurizes the carburetor, If I remenmber right, Rotaries did Not have a carburettor, just a simple needle valve. Maybe I should go home and check my book regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:16:34 +0100 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: Ni 17 front fuselage panels Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F370@SERVER1> I have always believed that the front fuselage panels of the Ni 17, and especially the lateral ones, were fabric covered. At least one contemporary picture suggests that I am wrong. Thanks to Ing. Maurizio Longoni, I got a copy of a close-up picture of a Ni 17's external nose surfaces, which clearly shows the typical wooden strips which made those panels and which I was used to see in pictures of cockpits only. Was this standard practice ? If so, were there differences in this respect between French and Italian productions ? Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:28:56 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Spandaus, . . again! Message-ID: Marcio wrote: > I read that Foto-Cut has something around 15 pieces. It seems too much > detail to me, You are correct, most of it is invisible under a layer of paint, and then under the wing of a Fokker you can't see much either. I'm saving one up for the Junkers D1. If they hadn't been such fun to build, I'd say that all but the jackets are a waste of time. Build them as models in their own right, and you will enjoy them. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:46:30 -0600 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Rotary Air Intakes; was Oberusel... Message-ID: <000901c19de4$2f6a8960$770101c0@ghunter> Lee wrote; < To: Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: Andreas want Salmson decals in 1/48... First off, welcome from Iowa in the US! If you want American squadrons, the Wings 48 kit has every one on a 15-color sheet. Some of the colors selected are a little gaudy, but... If you're after French markings, it gets harder. This is a good ALPS project, eh, Bob? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:52:36 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels Message-ID: Alberto believes (as do I): "...that the front fuselage panels of the Ni 17... were fabric covered." They certainly were on the Belgian N.21(?) that is in Brussels; the fabric shows up in many photos. Also N.28s. "... were there differences in this respect between French and Italian productions ?" I don't know. But I believe that the fabric "skin" would be a valuable layer in providing strength to the structure, helping to glue the strips together. I would think the Italians would continue the French practice. IMHO, of course. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:55:36 -0500 From: "ot811" To: "wwi-list" Subject: Re: Books on flying early aircraft, construction, etc Message-ID: <006f01c19de5$76f342d0$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Lee, If it is any help: My mail provider, myrealbox, claims to be very strict about spam. It is operated by Novell, and so I tend to believe them. Also, I have not received a single SPAM on these accounts. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:51:21 +0100 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: R: Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F372@SERVER1> Lance: Thanks for the prompt reply. As for Italians continuing the French practice, I seriously doubt this, as A-H inspection technicians reported that Italian-built Nieuports were definitley better built than French ones. Of course, this does not imply that Italians used different techniques (they may simply have built better using the same methods), but Italian firms which built French designs under license often departed from French practices in various ways. Alberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Lance Krieg [SMTP:lance.krieg@amerus.com] Inviato: martedi 15 gennaio 2002 17.55 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: [WWI] Re: Ni 17 front fuselage panels Alberto believes (as do I): "...that the front fuselage panels of the Ni 17... were fabric covered." They certainly were on the Belgian N.21(?) that is in Brussels; the fabric shows up in many photos. Also N.28s. "... were there differences in this respect between French and Italian productions ?" I don't know. But I believe that the fabric "skin" would be a valuable layer in providing strength to the structure, helping to glue the strips together. I would think the Italians would continue the French practice. IMHO, of course. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:08:02 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <3C4461F2.2030807@bg.am.lodz.pl> Rita wrote: > Greetings > Andreas Martin > Frankfurt/M., Germany Hello neighbor Making decals on ALPS/OKI printer has been very popular topic here for few days. In Poland (much closer than Canada) with Tomasz Gronczewski we got one. So if you want any particular plane just contact Tomasz at gronczewski@post.pl. Regards. -- Witold Kozakiewicz, Poland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:15:27 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <3C4463AF.99BE7251@x25.net> SSH, Basically that is the carburetor. There is a control that makes a slight change in RPM on some of them. I am sure you will agree there has to be an accomodation to mix the Fuel/Oil and Air in proper proportions. That is called a carburetor, (in modern times), Fuel/Oil/Air mixing area or what ever. But it does the job. Most of the time people will say the Rotary has no throttle as well. If you get a Williams Bros. Le Rhone kit is has parts named Air Fuel Intake tube, Throttle slide block, Throttle Arm & Link, Throttle Case and Throttle Case Cover. So you see there is a means of controlling fuel flow. What ever it may be called. All these things put together in a bunch are the equivelant of a Carburetor. They control the handling of the Fuel/Air Mixture. It can be called what ever you wish but it does the job. About the only thing missing is a butterfly valve inside a venturi but the long tube to the engine is the venturi, and, the system mangement is done all along that tube. There is a lot more to it than just a "simple needle valve". On the very tail end of the device is a thing called and Air Intake and an Air Intake Cover plate. That is where the tubes going outside end up to pressurize the system. Basically it is a globe with pipes sticking out of opposite sides for connecting to the intake tubes. The Williams Clerget 9B has the same stuff but a very different arrangement all along different areas of the big tube. Engines require certain elements to run at all, and, fuel control is essential no matter what you call it. I remember when I believed the Rotaries had no throttle or carburetor also. But that was along time ago. Now that I can touch them it comes out differently. If you wish I can take some photos of the Le Rhone down at the shop and it will equal the Williams Bros'. model quite nicely. I think we may have more than one but I have not looked around upstairs lately. By the way would you like to see a photo of our latest creation. In flight... Lee M. ot811 wrote: > > Lee, > You wrote: > > pressurizes the carburetor, > If I remenmber right, Rotaries did Not have a carburettor, just a simple > needle valve. Maybe I should go home and check my book > regards > SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:10:11 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Red or Yellow Message-ID: <3C446273.EA1A391E@dial.pipex.com> "Flake, Marc" wrote: > Fraser May wrote: > > < warm...>> > > (I whack my forehead) I'd heard that! I used Fuji film on my last > photo-taking session. No wonder ... > > It's Kodak for me from now on. (But aren't Kodak films a little blue?) I > guess that would also explain the brown and green SE 5, one photo was taken > with Kodak, the other with Fuji. > Try Fuji Reala, it gives pretty natural colours, I use it a lot for portraits etc. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:32:12 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <008b01c19dea$936ff2a0$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Lee, You are right. The rotary did not have a venturi and floats, but it did have the eqv mechanism to do carburetion. I must have read about something else. Thanks for the offer, but instead I might ask you for more details on their working. Are you by any chance, familiar with the Beardmore 120HP inline-6? I had some qns. Also, I am reading the Piston engine book by Herschel Smith. Have you read it? regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:39:50 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <20020115173950.B741F4683A@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:46:47 -0500 (EST), Lance Krieg wrote: > If you're after French markings, it gets harder. This is a good ALPS project, eh, Bob? With the upcoming release of the MPM/Azur kit, also in 1/72nd!!!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:02:23 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <003b01c19df1$2f8355a0$9f3dfad1@dwfjv01> Andreas, Guten Tag und Wilkommen!!! You have come to the right place. If anybody can find, or make, the decals for you, they are on this list. Welcome to the list Andreas from Kentucky. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:26:14 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <101111944501@smtp.vphos.net> Could be .. actually I have done profiles for four different French Salmsons and a Polish one, so those are possibilities for decals. They should be in an issue of Internet Modeler last year. I'll also be doing some USAS ones in the future Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:36:57 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oberusel attn: Neil E.............. Message-ID: <109.bd39032.2975d0c9@aol.com> In a message dated 15/1/02 8:28:14 am, ot811@myrealbox.com writes: << just a simple needle valve. >> that and a jet ->that is a carb--that and a throttle body for air and you mix gas with air and boom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:40:18 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <20020115184018.D04694683A@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:32:31 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > Could be .. actually I have done profiles for four different French Salmsons > and a Polish one, so those are possibilities for decals. They should be in > an issue of Internet Modeler last year. I'll also be doing some USAS ones in > the future Only four French? Get profilin', slacker. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:45:41 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <101112043501@smtp.vphos.net> I Just checked and I have the following Salmsons profiled SAL.1 - L'Escargots SAL.32 - Stylized seagull SAL.33 - Halberd SAL.59 - really neat art deco bug All are generic for the units with no extra markings. If there is demand for these in 1/48 and 1/72 I'll do them up .. same deal as the USAS ones $5 each set. Bob ---------- >From: "Bob Pearson" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Hello - Salmson decals >Date: Tue, Jan 15, 2002, 10:32 am > > Could be .. actually I have done profiles for four different French Salmsons > and a Polish one, so those are possibilities for decals. They should be in > an issue of Internet Modeler last year. I'll also be doing some USAS ones in > the future > > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:46:47 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <101112049701@smtp.vphos.net> Better watch it or I'll go back to the Flowers Bob ---------- >From: tbittners@sprintmail.com > > Only four French? Get profilin', slacker. :-) > > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:49:05 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <15c.6d603ba.2975d3a1@aol.com> Bob drops this hankie: << Could be .. >> there's this: I am never sitting down to poker with you jokers.... -Steve McQueen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:59:19 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <20020115185919.ECECE4683A@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:49:57 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > I Just checked and I have the following Salmsons profiled > SAL.1 - L'Escargots > SAL.32 - Stylized seagull > SAL.33 - Halberd > SAL.59 - really neat art deco bug > > All are generic for the units with no extra markings. If there is demand for > these in 1/48 and 1/72 I'll do them up .. same deal as the USAS ones $5 each > set. Awesome!! What a great guy - I don't care what anyone else says. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:06:28 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <101112167901@smtp.vphos.net> Okay. .. Salmson decals are set up .. just need the demand now to print some. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:21:42 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hello - Salmson decals Message-ID: <20020115192142.6F59946845@eclipse.qis.net> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:09:22 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > Okay. .. Salmson decals are set up .. just need the demand now to print > some. I'm probably shooting myself in the foot, but... Okay, I *DEMAND* you print them. There, how's that? ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4073 **********************