WWI Digest 4063 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Aurora box tops by Artur Golebiewski 2) RE: nuts and bolts by "Nigel Rayner" 3) Need help from UK listee by "Pedro Soares" 4) RE: tire color (again) by "Hans Trauner" 5) RE: tire color (again) by "Hans Trauner" 6) RE: tire flavors (again) by KnnthS@aol.com 7) re: Airfix Bristol Fighter by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 8) RE: ALPS printer qn by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 9) Alps and OKI banding problems by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 10) RE: ALPS printer qn by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 11) Re: SWMBO wants to build a kit! by "Steven Perry" 12) Re: SWMBO wants to build a kit! by KnnthS@aol.com 13) Re: SWMBO wants to build a kit! by "Steven Perry" 14) Re: SWMBO wants by KnnthS@aol.com 15) Alberto new photos by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 16) RE: How Many Times? by Shane Weier 17) Re: How Many Times? by Shane Weier 18) Re: How Many Times? by KnnthS@aol.com 19) My sweet Caproni!!!! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) RE: How Many Times? by "Steven Perry" 21) RE: My sweet Caproni!!!! by Shane Weier 22) Re: My sweet Caproni!!!! by Dennis Ugulano 23) RE: My sweet Caproni!!!! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 24) Ink Jet Decals by "Laskodi" 25) Deperdussin 1913 Schneider Cup winner: by Robert Horton 26) Re: Ink Jet Decals by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 27) Nieuport prop logo info sought by "StefenK" 28) Re: Paints by "Len Smith" 29) Re: Paints by "Len Smith" 30) Re: Nieuport prop logo info sought by "Lee M." 31) Revell 1/48 DVII - the plot thickens !! by David Fleming 32) Re: Deperdussin 1913 Schneider Cup winner: by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:49:07 -0800 (PST) From: Artur Golebiewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aurora box tops Message-ID: <20020112074907.67066.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com> --- KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/11/02 4:43:50 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > iiv000@mail.connect.more.net writes: > > << > After looking at these I could just 'feel' the .79 > cents "....burning a hole > in my pocket..." as my dad use to say. These kits > along with the Profile > series were the state of the art for us WWI > modeling 13 year olds in the > 1960's. I remember when the Albatros CIII came out > in their series it was > one of the last of the WWI kits and I thought after > opening the box "...it > can't get much better that this...." >> > > A membership chain department store here in Southern > California sold them for > 59 and later 69 cents. Yeah- when that deluxe > Albatros C.III came out along > with the Breg14 I thought that was IT! > RK The box art for the Fokker EV is what actually got me into WWI modeling. The scene depicts Stec's monoplane Fokker over snowy mountainsl...beautiful piece of work...a classic. Artur __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 07:56:44 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: nuts and bolts Message-ID: <000101c19b3e$ad90a520$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Mack, >Has anyone used Copperstate's nuts and bolts? How would you compare them to >say Grandt line products? I have both, I've used neither. CSM's are etched nuts and bolts (two separate teeny tiny pieces), whereas the Grandt line products are solid plastic representations in one piece on a little plastic spigot. The Grandt line pieces look easier to work with but it's more difficult to find the right scale (ie they don't do them as 1/48, you have to eyeball loads of them til you find what looks right). The CSM bits will drive you crazy and most will probably get eaten by the carpet monster, but are probably more in scale. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:33:01 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Need help from UK listee Message-ID: <000701c19b5c$e4697ea0$0f7316d5@netcabo.pt> Hi, Is there any UK listee planning on ordering something from Hannants soon? I would like to buy the Pegasus W29 which is currently on sale but Hannants has a minimum order tag of 30 Pounds and I really only want the W 29 to get the wings and the decals... Anyone wants to help? Thanks in advance Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:05:24 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: tire color (again) Message-ID: <004101c19b61$6b004f80$2aaa72d4@FRITZweb> ;-) H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Cheffers-Heard" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: tire color (again) > Now THAT'S a name I'd like on my CV. I know it is a perfectly normal > word, just sounds funny in English. Sorry.... > N > > >.. Again the Continental Gummiwerke... > -- > Nigel Cheffers-Heard > photography + design > > tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 > fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 > mobile: 0771 261 4514 > nigelch@cheffers.co.uk > www.cheffers.co.uk > > Laburnums, Bridge Hill > Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:07:48 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: tire color (again) Message-ID: <004f01c19b61$c051bdc0$2aaa72d4@FRITZweb> Are they really called Gummi-Bears? O.K. we call them Gummibären also, but Gummi = rubber.Just for constistence, not for the taste... H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ibs4421" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: tire color (again) > > > > Now THAT'S a name I'd like on my CV. I know it is a perfectly normal > > word, just sounds funny in English. Sorry.... > > N > > > > >.. Again the Continental Gummiwerke... > > Nigel has an image of a CV being flown by Gummi-Bears with tires of the same > color/consistency. > > Sorta "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds"-ish isn't it? > > Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 07:21:26 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: tire flavors (again) Message-ID: <71.18bea287.29718446@aol.com> Hans, Warren and Nigel writes, they does: << Are they really called Gummi-Bears? O.K. we call them Gummibären also, but Gummi = rubber.Just for constistence, not for the taste... >> gives new meaning to: "That mission was a real nail-biter" I can see the crew chief now: "Ok, aces *are* pretty high-strung - but now this guy is biting the tires! First, it's paint some bent image on the side - now it's eating the wheels!" Is this a diorama...? Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:48:42 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Airfix Bristol Fighter Message-ID: <013e01c19b67$792fd840$0200a8c0@x.pl> Eduard's Scarff gun ring and Nieuport gun ring PE sets includes very nice Lewis guns (barrels you must scratchbuilt) G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:53:10 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: > The question is > more whether OKI > will continue the series or not... Exactly. Volker touched the point. As far as I know OKI continues working over Alps. They have already developed slightly modified OKI DP-5000S printer, which is supposed to print long banners but has no other advantage as regards our purposes. Even more, Oki has developed new ribbons - green, red and dark blue spot colors. Although they are intended for OKI DP-7000, every DP-5000, MD-5000 user can use them provided that he is cheating printer. Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:53:11 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Alps and OKI banding problems Message-ID: Folks, I have got a small utility developed by OKI to resolve problem with empty lines between bands. It is line feed adjuster. It adjusts space between bands for three media settings: laser paper, VP photo film and dye-sub paper. If anybody is interested, mail me off list. Unfortunatelty it is PC version only. If you have got Mac, contact OKI Europe at europe.oki.com to ask for the adjuster. I believe it exist as long as OKI officialy supports Mac versions as well. Tomasz P.S. Note that the adjusting utility is tiny (7kb) but sample reference image to be printed is huge (2mb as zip file). Please note if you would like whole package or an ultility only (it works without smaple image as well) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:07:07 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: RE: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: <006401c19b6a$0b032a40$0f39183f@cyrixp166> Robert Karr recommended to me these folks a a source of ALPS ink cartridges and they are pretty good: http://prices411.com/alps/index.htm Interestingly enough, Comp USA also seems to continue to carry the ink cartridges although Staples (offics supply chain) has dropped the line. Regards, John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:33:49 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: SWMBO wants to build a kit! Message-ID: <00b601c19b6d$c497ae60$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> And soon, she will be telling you what's wrong with your model building techniques! BvB has never laid glue to plastic, but that doesn't stop her from passing comment on my techniques. I just stifle a yawn and say. "Thanks dear, you're right" and then go on doing it my way. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:38:16 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SWMBO wants to build a kit! Message-ID: <51.174884ca.29719648@aol.com> sp stifles: << I just stifle a yawn and say. "Thanks dear, you're right" and then go on doing it my way. >> and this is why they love us. ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:44:42 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: SWMBO wants to build a kit! Message-ID: <00be01c19b6f$49f2ab40$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > sp stifles: > > << I just stifle a yawn and say. "Thanks dear, you're right" and then go on > doing it my way. >> > > and this is why they love us. And I thought it was because size didn't matter. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:49:56 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SWMBO wants Message-ID: <182.1fd009b.29719904@aol.com> sp writes: << "Thanks dear, you're right" >> best advice ever given or taken! ; ) Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:24:05 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: Alberto new photos Message-ID: <023001c19b74$cbf18800$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi Matt! About Alberto's news I feel cheated, as I watch his models average once or twice weekly. But I understand you, my friend in scale!!! G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 00:25:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: How Many Times? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA12@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brent, > How many times, on average, do you make a part before deeming > it acceptable? 92? ..or more.... Nah, it kind of depends. Some parts I can knock out okay at attempt number one. Others take forever. I lost count at 20 trying to get the Biffs cowl forward of the pilot right - three different masters for the mould, several attempts to force each to the right shape and multiple crash moulds on each to get a perfect cowl. Maybe as many as 40 attempts for one part (but this was by far the worst bit of the Biff to make. The engine undercowl worked first time!) FWIW I have a neato set of 1/48 Caproni wings now. They're St Harry style styrene envelope on balsa cores and I made three sets of envelopes - cracked the LE of the first set, second set came off the building board after laminating and instantly formed a curve like an F-4U and third set are perfect. I usually get the wings okay at the first attempt, but these are long suckers. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 00:37:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: How Many Times? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA13@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Peter says: > There is of course a downsideI to all of this in the "Shane > Effect"; ie: If > you build it, the kits will come. Gee, I have something named after me. I wonder if I get a prize? Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:44:14 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How Many Times? Message-ID: <13d.7996dc4.2971a5be@aol.com> Shane hazards: << I wonder if I get a prize? >> We're all rooting for you (and our favorite kit). Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:56:02 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Gabriele Zenoni" , "wwi lista" Subject: My sweet Caproni!!!! Message-ID: <024201c19b79$42ef1f40$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi! I've got yesterday resin parts of the Caproni Ca.3 bomber, directly from Terni in Italy, from world smallest and also most exclusive model manufacturer - Gabriele Zenoni's Magnificent Resins (I invented that name). They are great!!!! But a lot of scratchbuilding is needed, as it is not complete model, but only some most important parts. But that is even better!!! If someone is interested, all parts and completed model you can see here: http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Zenoni/Ital/index.html My set differs only with that it has ailerons attached to wings. GABRIELE!!!! GRAZIE MILLE!!!! Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:08:52 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: How Many Times? Message-ID: <00ca01c19b7b$0bcab040$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > > > How many times, on average, do you make a part before deeming > > it acceptable? It depends on the part and the technique used in making it. Another major factor is your level of experience with the given technique. The main thing about scratching is to get over the the fear of messing up a part. As a kid I was in fear of loosing parts because then you had to write off for a replacement. Scratchbuilding is exactly opposite of this total demendence on the kit. A very different way of looking at a model. Since all parts have to be fabricated, they are all equal hinderences to progress. The value of a part is proportional to the time invested in it. This makes scratched sub-assemblies very valuable and a disaster if lost or broken. And since they usually must wait a while for the rest of the model to be fabricated, protective storage is a must. Shane has nentioned having something to store sub-asemblies in, I am adicted to Altoids and have stacks of the tins and use them for this purpose. (My "spare parts box" is currently a stack of 17 Altoids tins labeled, props, seats, engines etc, etc, Saves on rummaging time.) Average number of attempts? As many as it takes, while that varys greatly with the part, you can generally count on doing more than you expected to. Remember, the result is 100% YOU. The finished kit part is something you may have graciously improved or it may be the kit's barely acceptable rendering. You can always say "I built it OOB" Not so with a scratchbuilt, What they see is what you built, so you do as many attempts as necessary till you are satisfied with the part. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 01:09:19 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: My sweet Caproni!!!! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCDA14@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Grzeg says: > I've got yesterday resin parts of the Caproni Ca.3 bomber, directly > from Terni in Italy, from world smallest and also most exclusive > model manufacturer - Gabriele Zenoni's Magnificent Resins (I invented > that name). That figures :-( Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:12:18 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: My sweet Caproni!!!! Message-ID: <200201121012_MC3-EDB5-985F@compuserve.com> Grzegorz, What a beautiful work of art. Excellent work. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 10/13/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:40:11 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" , "Shane Weier" Subject: RE: My sweet Caproni!!!! Message-ID: <026401c19b7f$6e7381a0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Shane! Don't worry, it is not kit, it is scratchbuild. Gabriele made masters in plastic and wood, and copied it in resin, at first for himself. And later for me. I have the only copy. One tailboom is even original plastic! Exactly like on photos on our list page. But, there is Caproni available from Ludemann, but this one is not my fault :-) G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:41:29 -0800 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: Ink Jet Decals Message-ID: <000901c19b87$fce46000$4d3819d0@f4hn201> Faced with a decal "disaster" (and a deadline!) I tried making my own decals using my Epson Stylus Color 600 inkjet printer and using Bare Metal Foils' Experts Choice decal material. After spraying a light coat of Microscale Flat coat on the sheet (as stated in the instructions) I ran them through the ink jet printer at 1440 dpi using the high quality photo paper option. The decals were letters (a specific font used by an ot aircraft) and the results were not acceptable to me as they did not produce a "crisp" letter. However, for decals not requiring "crisp" edges (such as lozenge) they may be acceptable for use. If you would like to see a JPEG of the final result so you can make your own decision, just send me an e-mail off list. FWIW & YMMV ------------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:08:20 -0600 From: Robert Horton To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Deperdussin 1913 Schneider Cup winner: Message-ID: <3C406D83.385BCCD2@netexpress.net> Hi list and expecially Peter Leonard...I have a three view in 1/8 in to foot, out of the old 3 volume Mendenhall set....I can try to scan and send if this is what you are looking for....drawings look pretty good but not any detail pictures on the page......Bob Horton ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:09:08 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Ink Jet Decals Message-ID: <9e.206a22fc.2971c7b4@aol.com> Bob, I received an order of decal paper from Bare Metals two days ago but haven't tried it yet. It was listed as being specifically for inkjet printers. Was yours? I'd appreciate a copy of the JPEG. TIA, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:44:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Laskodi" writes: > Faced with a decal "disaster" (and a deadline!) I tried making my own decals > using my Epson Stylus Color 600 inkjet printer and using Bare Metal Foils' > Experts Choice decal material. After spraying a light coat of Microscale > Flat coat on the sheet (as stated in the instructions) I ran them through > the ink jet printer at 1440 dpi using the high quality photo paper option. > The decals were letters (a specific font used by an ot aircraft) and the > results were not acceptable to me as they did not produce a "crisp" letter. > However, for decals not requiring "crisp" edges (such as lozenge) they may > be acceptable for use. If you would like to see a JPEG of the final result > so you can make your own decision, just send me an e-mail off list. > FWIW & YMMV > ------------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:19:12 -0500 From: "StefenK" To: "WWI Modeling List" Subject: Nieuport prop logo info sought Message-ID: <3C2A4F4F001C11EC@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Many (most?) Ni 17s have a prop log of a light (white?) circle surrounding a light device (wing/). Who is the manufacturer and soes anyone have a good image or more information on this logo? TIA to all, Stefen ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:23:35 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Paints Message-ID: <000201c19b8e$363ccc60$9e5808c3@oemcomputer> Michael, No, I haven't tried Misterkit paints yet, I am waiting to get to a show and see them 'in the flesh'. I doubt if I will change in any case, I am now set in my ways and I can also use them on the occasional Historex model. Regarding the Marmite, have you tried it in a cup of hot milk as a bed-time drink. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kendix" > Len: > > Well, I like the airbrush and other instruments of the devil such as motor > cars, washing machines and electric guitars. Acrylics are actually quite > fiddly for airbrushing because they tend to dry quickly and clog up the > mechanism. Enamels are preferable because they actually "flush" the > mechanism as they go through it; unfortuantely, they have to have a venting > system. > Have you used Mister Kit paints? If so, could you say how they compare to > Citadel? > Finally, I keep two jars of Marmite in the house just in case I run out. It > takes me a while (at least 3 weeks) to get through an extra-large jar > because nobody else in the house or any of my friends will go near it. > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:31:50 -0000 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Paints Message-ID: <000301c19b8e$370dd800$9e5808c3@oemcomputer> Ken, Great to 'meet' some-one else who appreciates the best paints around. I have used nothing else for the last five years, and I doubt that I will change to Misterkit, the chap in our Club who introduced me to Citadel has tried them, passed them on to another member and gone back to Citadel. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Paints was Re: Re: Fokker F.1 ist Kaput . . Nicht!!! > Len writes: > > << Citadel, however, are formulated for painting > snip > designed from the start to be properly brushed. > snip > hardly any of which are useable from the pot on WW1 aircraft. This forces > you to mix-your-own>> > > I backed into this hobby again starting with painting figs from Citadel for > my two children when they were tykes. (big fun-wonderful stuff). They grew up > and I regressed. Somebody has to cover the job description......WW1 fit > perfectly. > So- > I agree. > Here is where Citadel is an excellent compadre: > Soft greys - a nice range from cool to warm and in mid to lighter value - > perfect for us. > Wood colors - some of their browns are pretty good to go right from the pot > as the various choices for woods in cockpit area - they wash and glaze > wonderfully. Work from light to dark and you are staring at 'wood' without > decals or labor. > Vivid colors - reds, yellows and some blues > These often require mixing, but I would rather start 'true' and then knock > it down from there. Obtaining a color is harder than knocking it down. So a > good baseline, here. > Most of all--the pigment (if not a dye color) is non-existent. They never > chalk or lump. The only other water-based paint of this quality I know is > WinsorNewton watercolors. Citadel makes first rate paint from the > fundamentals, up. > Their 'Bone white' is a great base to use for CDL. A spot of a warm tan, a > bit of white and you are looking at soemthing that dries out to a pretty good > facimile. > Otherwise? > The old stand-bys in acrylics...and- > Am looking to better acquaint myself with MisterKit paints. > > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:42:57 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport prop logo info sought Message-ID: <3C4083B1.B03B2FF7@x25.net> I have sent you two photos which may not be exactly what you had in mind but it is at least very good information. It what I happen to have and I know they made propellers for Nieuport for a very long time. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx StefenK wrote: > Many (most?) Ni 17s have a prop log of a light (white?) circle surrounding > a light device (wing/). Who is the manufacturer and soes anyone have a > good image or more information on this logo? > > TIA to all, > Stefen > ---------------------------------------------------- > Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today > Only $9.95 per month! > http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:20:14 +0000 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Revell 1/48 DVII - the plot thickens !! Message-ID: <3C408C6E.45FA8071@dial.pipex.com> Further to previous posts, the Hannants site is listing the Revell Germany future release of the SE5a at £6.99 and the Fokker DVII at £13.99, which suggests to me that they may well be of differing origin (ie Aurora and Dragon respectively) mmm Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:39:59 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Deperdussin 1913 Schneider Cup winner: Message-ID: <9e.2076c499.2971eb0f@aol.com> --part1_9e.2076c499.2971eb0f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THAT'S IT!!!! Please, oh yes please. Peter L --part1_9e.2076c499.2971eb0f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THAT'S IT!!!!    Please, oh yes please.

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