WWI Digest 4062 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: ALPS printer qn by Volker Haeusler 2) Word Wrap Function on AOL by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 3) RE: ALPS printer qn by KnnthS@aol.com 4) Re: ALPS printer qn by "Bob Pearson" 5) Aurora box tops by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" 6) Re: Aurora box tops by KarrArt@aol.com 7) RE: ALPS printer qn by KarrArt@aol.com 8) RE: A request and an update by Dennis Ugulano 9) Re: Word Wrap Function on AOL by "Lee M." 10) Re: ALPS printer qn by "Lee M." 11) Re: Word Wrap Function on AOL by "Lee M." 12) Australian listees request by "D Charles" 13) Re: Australian listees request by "Ross Moorhouse" 14) RE: ALPS printer qn by "ibs4421" 15) RE: ALPS printer qn by "Bob Pearson" 16) Airfix Bristol Fighter by "cameron rile" 17) RE: ALPS printer qn by KarrArt@aol.com 18) Re: Airfix Bristol Fighter by Rory Goodwin 19) Re: How Many Times? by Rory Goodwin 20) Eduard 1/48 Albatros DII by "David Layton" 21) RE: You know you're a (male) modeler when... by "Nigel Rayner" 22) Searchable Database # 1FE by "Vincent Cinny" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 02:17:36 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: On the ALPS questions: "So for non-decal work, how does the Alps compare with regular inkjet printers for speed, quality, operating cost, reliability, etc." The following is true for my OKI DP 5000, which is the same as the ALPS MD 5000 (itīs only the name for it in Europe) speed: slower than other printers (due to the printing system, which uses one color cartridge after the other quality: The ALPS/OKI resin wax colors produce an effect unlike anything else I know. The second application beside decals where the printer excels are photos - an excellent addition, if you have a digital camera. The prints really look like a printed photograph, the colors are much more intensive. operating cost: basically sky high. cartridges cost are something like 6 to 10 US $ per cartridge, you need cyan, magenta, yellow, black, white, finish, primer, the thereīs the metallics - and those cartridges do not last as long as a typical inkjet cartridge. Especially the white has a shorter ribboin, and is one of the most expensive. Iīd guess the operating cost are 4 to 6 times as high as those for a high quality laser or inkjet printer - at least. reliability: The printers are not very reliable, judging from reports on the ALSP decal list. the achilles heel of the printers is the print head, whiich consists of a number of elements which transfer the color. If one dies, you will have a "banding" problem, where there will be thin white lines in the print. The printer will last longer if you donīt overheat it (do not print to many things at a time), and if you carefully clean it "The decal fans think this is the greatest printer in the world. Why hasnt it caught on?" Iīd say: price, operating cost, relaiability problems. Plus you obviously need more than the printer itself (ie, graphics software) to produce the decals. "- is there an online site that has a comparative review of this printer?" None Iīm aware of, but there is the ALPSDecal site, where you find sooome useful comments under http://www.catskillarts.com/alpsdecals/index.html "- would you advice against buying it used, on say, eBay. What should I expect to pay. - I saw some postings on the list about it going out of production, do I have to worry about supplies?" These can be answered together: ALPS stopped selling these printers in early 2000. The MD 1000 and itīs sisters are AFAIK no longer in production. The OKI DP 5000 and 7000 are still in production. Therefore you will have to get a used one - EBAY is one chance, but you also find them sometimes on the ALPS decal mailing list. Or you get one from Europe or Australia. The cartridges are obviously still available. The question is more whether OKI will continue the series or not... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:00:11 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Word Wrap Function on AOL Message-ID: Hi AOL Users, I've been advised by a listee that my email sendings on the list are a pain to read because I am not using the word wrap function. I certainly don't want to cause any more pain and suffering than the content already does. My messages look ok from this end. I've looked under "preferences" for a word wrap option selection but don't see anything remotely like it. I'd appreciate any help. TIA, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:07:28 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: <142.7b4daf5.2970d840@aol.com> Volker writes: << operating cost: basically sky high. >> and there's your case to Mom. good lord. I'd rather paint..... Gives new respect for Bob Pearson, I can tell you. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:22:20 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: <101079521102@smtp.vphos.net> I have an Epson Stylus Colour 600 as my main printer ... The Alps is faster than the Epson when you print in hiqh quality modes, but takes forever to spool up. You need special paper and inks for the Alps, but it will print on normal paper as well. I used to think the Epson did nice colour work .. the Alps is head and shoulders above it when done in photo mode. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:43:19 -0600 From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "wwi-faq" Subject: Aurora box tops Message-ID: <003d01c19b02$5f23b4e0$3032b9cc@unionrai> > whether the airplanes are > entirely accurate or not, those renderings certainly had excitement. > RK After looking at these I could just 'feel' the .79 cents "....burning a hole in my pocket..." as my dad use to say. These kits along with the Profile series were the state of the art for us WWI modeling 13 year olds in the 1960's. I remember when the Albatros CIII came out in their series it was one of the last of the WWI kits and I thought after opening the box "...it can't get much better that this...." One has to appreciate the Copper States, Eduards, Blue Maxes, HiTech, Flashback, etc for developing the market and hanging in there when the WWII a/c and jets are where the 'big' money is. Charlie nb: 'nothing' into my annual basement cleaning (actually found a DML PE set missing from a triplane box! - in another kit I was putting away). I brought in the air compressor so I can paint year round vs., only 6 months. Building paint booth to move fumes out the window. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:42:22 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aurora box tops Message-ID: <183.1f9a42d.2970ee7e@aol.com> In a message dated 1/11/02 4:43:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, iiv000@mail.connect.more.net writes: << After looking at these I could just 'feel' the .79 cents "....burning a hole in my pocket..." as my dad use to say. These kits along with the Profile series were the state of the art for us WWI modeling 13 year olds in the 1960's. I remember when the Albatros CIII came out in their series it was one of the last of the WWI kits and I thought after opening the box "...it can't get much better that this...." >> A membership chain department store here in Southern California sold them for 59 and later 69 cents. Yeah- when that deluxe Albatros C.III came out along with the Breg14 I thought that was IT! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:42:23 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: <143.7b9e52f.2970ee7f@aol.com> In a message dated 1/11/02 4:02:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, haeusler@tm.net.my writes: << operating cost: basically sky high. cartridges cost are something like 6 to 10 US $ per cartridge, you need cyan, magenta, yellow, black, white, finish, primer, the thereīs the metallics - and those cartridges do not last as long as a typical inkjet cartridge. Especially the white has a shorter ribboin, and is one of the most expensive. Iīd guess the operating cost are 4 to 6 times as high as those for a high quality laser or inkjet printer - at least.>> It's got that "econoblack" cartridge which provides practically free "junk" printing- I use it alot when getting final sizings figured out and tested- also great for printing those quick e-mails when you need a hard copy to refer to. My wife was using the ALPS day-in day-out for printing her real estate appraisal reports . 7 to 10 pages each, legal size,loaded with photos, and it worked out cheaper than the Cannon she was using. <> It can get a little dirty from time to time, but ours has 3 1/2 years of heavy printing without a problem (the wife's use has far exceeded what a modeler would use by several life times). The "banding" problem can be a pain, mainly in the dye-sub mode (not recommended for decals BTW), but the regular mode has never shown this. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:55:10 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: A request and an update Message-ID: <200201112055_MC3-EDAD-B7FF@compuserve.com> Neil C, >> It just hit me, you're doing an indian chief! << You are so very close. Pictures by Sunday. It's 99% complete. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 10/13/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:22:08 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Word Wrap Function on AOL Message-ID: <3C3F9DD0.79B785A3@x25.net> I do not use AOL but Netscape. On my top line are the words File Edit then View. When composing a message the sixth line from the top says Wrap Long Lines. It is checked , meaning, Yes. I am sorry I can not say about AOL but they should have something like that.. Lee M New Braunfels, Tx CoolSpadLuke@aol.com wrote: > Hi AOL Users, > > I've been advised by a listee that my email sendings on the list are a pain to read because I am not using the word wrap function. I certainly don't want to cause any more pain and suffering than the content already does. My messages look ok from this end. I've looked under "preferences" for a word wrap option selection but don't see anything remotely like it. I'd appreciate any help. > > TIA, > Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:25:59 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: <3C3F9EB7.2C746D8B@x25.net> I am looking at a Minolta LASER printer that goes for about $1200. USD But supplies are much cheaper and it seems to be extremely reliable; I have asked for Info on Decal printing and have no answer yet. I can't really afford that, but then again, I doubt I could afford to run the ALPS. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX Bob Pearson wrote: > I have an Epson Stylus Colour 600 as my main printer ... > > The Alps is faster than the Epson when you print in hiqh quality modes, but > takes forever to spool up. You need special paper and inks for the Alps, but > it will print on normal paper as well. I used to think the Epson did nice > colour work .. the Alps is head and shoulders above it when done in photo > mode. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:30:46 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Word Wrap Function on AOL Message-ID: <3C3F9FD6.7D2D7F49@x25.net> In case you noticed I accidently switched the Wrap Long Lines function to off. It is back on now "Lee M." wrote: > I do not use AOL but Netscape. On my top line are the words File Edit then View. When composing a message the sixth line from the top says Wrap Long Lines. It is checked , meaning, Yes. I am sorry I can not say about AOL but they should have something like that.. > > Lee M > New Braunfels, Tx > > CoolSpadLuke@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi AOL Users, > > > > I've been advised by a listee that my email sendings on the list are a pain to read because I am not using the word wrap function. I certainly don't want to cause any more pain and suffering than the content already does. My messages look ok from this end. I've looked under "preferences" for a word wrap option selection but don't see anything remotely like it. I'd appreciate any help. > > > > TIA, > > Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:43:56 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Australian listees request Message-ID: <001801c19b12$fbc087a0$2a3c32d2@Charls> Anyone out there (in Australia) got a spare Sopwith Camel kit in 1/28 scale? Or does your local supplier have one? David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:49:50 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Australian listees request Message-ID: <002d01c19b13$ce0c96e0$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Sorry David, I looked on both hobbycos and frontline Hobbies sites and neither have it listed. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Charles" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:41 PM Subject: [WWI] Australian listees request | Anyone out there (in Australia) got a spare Sopwith Camel kit in 1/28 scale? | Or does your local supplier have one? | | David | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:05:38 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: RE: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: <00c701c19b16$041d4f20$983dfad1@dwfjv01> > My wife was using the ALPS day-in day-out for printing her real estate > appraisal reports . 7 to 10 pages each, legal size,loaded with photos, and it > worked out cheaper than the Cannon she was using. > Hmmmm. I've got a Sis-In-Law who's a commercial artist and does a lot of free-lance work. I wonder if I could convince her to get one. I know I won't get anything like this anytime soon. I asked the question originally 'cause i was wondering what guys like Bob are going to do when spare parts and cartridges are no longer available. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:39:15 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: <101080681501@smtp.vphos.net> Warren says ... > I asked the question originally > 'cause i was wondering what guys like Bob are going to do when spare parts > and cartridges are no longer available. Panic. . and then get out of the decal business. That is why I want to stock up on the ALPS cartridges while I can Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 102 23:33:24 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Airfix Bristol Fighter Message-ID: <86204AFCE710859489526AEE81397541@cameron.prontomail.com> Has anyone any opinions on the Airfix Bristol Fighter and what to look out for with it. The guns on it are pretty weak, what 1:72 after market Lewis's do people prefer? What other aftermarket stuff exists for the kit? cam www.australianflyingcorps.org ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:43:32 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: ALPS printer qn Message-ID: <43.4cea92f.297118f4@aol.com> In a message dated 1/11/02 7:43:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, bpearson@kaien.net writes: << > I asked the question originally > 'cause i was wondering what guys like Bob are going to do when spare parts > and cartridges are no longer available. Panic. . and then get out of the decal business. That is why I want to stock up on the ALPS cartridges while I can Bob >> Dat's my big fear- because of those dye-sub prints of my work that I hawk around airshows. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:38:21 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Airfix Bristol Fighter Message-ID: <3C3FCBCD.5F95552F@earthlink.net> I'll start this off - fin/rudder needs to be thinned a lot or removed from fuselage halves & replaced. Rib detail on horizontal stab/elevators needs to be reduced or removed. Fuselage locator pins on lower wing are way too thick and maybe off in other ways. Ejector pin craters on wings need careful filling & concealment. May want to remove & scratch new exhaust manifolds & pipes. Detail on radiator a bit soft...drill out port for Vickers. Hubs on wheels of my kits are caving in - replacements from spares box or maybe Aeroclub, who also make very serviceable white metal Lewis & Vickers guns... I'll hand this off to others who've built or at least studied the wiley pygmy Brisfit and are perhaps more familiar with its innards. cameron rile wrote: > Has anyone any opinions on the Airfix Bristol > Fighter and what to look out for with it. The > guns on it are pretty weak, what 1:72 after > market Lewis's do people prefer? What other > aftermarket stuff exists for the kit? > > cam > www.australianflyingcorps.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:45:29 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How Many Times? Message-ID: <3C3FCD78.542389A4@earthlink.net> I've scratched a few bits, but I'm far from being patient and skilled, so I'm usually satisfied with the first one or two tries. I also choose my battles and generally don't spend a lot of time on cockpit interiors, since they're the least visible aspect of most ac... Brent Theobald wrote: > Howdy Gang! > > I am interested in hearing back from you scratchbuilding types. It seems > when I scratchbuild detail items I make them three times. The first attempt > is the learning curve. The sophmore attempt is to verify the methods and the > third time is the charm. Or is it that I am sick of this little b88l$*#t > part and am ready to move on? I need my skills to grow such that I can build > pieces I can be happy with on the first attempt. > > I think I am going to have to make a fourth pilot's seat for my Gotha. I > know how I want it too look, but I can't quite get there. The problem is > getting believable stretch marks in it. > > How many times, on average, do you make a part before deeming it acceptable? > > Later! > > Brent (who actually lost the Gotha instrument panel #2 due to a large sneeze > al la Lance) > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 01:06:36 -0600 From: "David Layton" To: Subject: Eduard 1/48 Albatros DII Message-ID: <000c01c19b37$ad162220$416cd918@DavidLayton> Is it me or do the outboard wing struts seem long? (compared to Windsock 3 Views) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 07:44:48 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: You know you're a (male) modeler when... Message-ID: <000001c19b3d$02ebc240$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Peter M wrote: >..your wife says "God! That's so tiny!" > >..and you feel _good_ about that. 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