WWI Digest 4060 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: tire color (again) by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 2) Re: Happy Birthday Marmite by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 3) Re: Eduard news by Tom Gourdie 4) Book Question by "Sandy Adam" 5) RE: tire color (again) by "ibs4421" 6) Re: Paints was Re: Re: Fokker F.1 ist Kaput . . Nicht!!! by KnnthS@aol.com 7) RE: tire color (again) (ot) by Mark Miller 8) =?GB2312?B?ytPGtbvh0uk=?= by abc@abc.com 9) RE: tire color (again) (ot) by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 10) Re: Eduard News Correction by "Bob Pearson" 11) Re: Eduard News Correction by KnnthS@aol.com 12) Re: Paints by "Michael Kendix" 13) Re: Eduard News Correction by Tom Gourdie 14) one more scale effect post by "Mordecai Sheftall" 15) Re: Eduard News Correction by "Steven Perry" 16) Re: Lozenge question Aviatik Berg D.I by "Muth and Zulick" 17) message for Ken Acosta by "Sandy Adam" 18) RE: A request and an update by Crawford Neil 19) RE: A request and an update by Crawford Neil 20) RE: tire color (again) by Crawford Neil 21) How Many Times? by "Brent Theobald" 22) Schnieder Tank kit FS by Myles Miller 23) Decals by "Brent Theobald" 24) Re: Decals by "Brent Theobald" 25) Re: Schnieder Tank kit FS by GRBroman@aol.com 26) Hey Ernie by "Brent Theobald" 27) Dang! was Hey Ernie by "Brent Theobald" 28) Re: Book Question by "Lance Krieg" 29) Camo Colors- Munsell conversion by "Mark Shannon" 30) Re: How Many Times? by "Lance Krieg" 31) RE: tire color (again) by Jan Vihonen 32) Re: How Many Times? by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:46:46 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: tire color (again) Message-ID: Now THAT'S a name I'd like on my CV. I know it is a perfectly normal word, just sounds funny in English. Sorry.... N >.. Again the Continental Gummiwerke... -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:48:00 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Marmite Message-ID: >Yeah, Vegemite has overtaken it all over the world - WRONG!!! N Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:04:49 -0000 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Eduard news Message-ID: The difficulty here I suppose is that the numbered certificate you get with a Blue Max product does not necessarily signify the number actually sold to modellers since this takes no account of those supplied to retailers and which could be sitting gathering dust on some shop shelf. My Pfalz DXII was certificate number 1473 (or thereabouts) and I bought that via Hannants some three years ago. It is only recently that Chris Gannon said on his website that the Pfalz was now sold out so my 1473 (or whatever the number was) was obviously one of a batch sold to Hannants away back in 1997 or 1998 and does not actually reflect the order in which the models reach us ie the punters. So I reckon I've probably destroyed my own suggestion! Tom -----Original Message----- From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au [mailto:Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au] Sent: 10 January 2002 23:10 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Eduard news Tom et Al I bought a BM Se5a in around August last year - the numbering was about 1200 and something, which would suppose that he has sold 12XX kits before that one. In relation to Hannants sale, its no surprise, given Pegasus' low profile in the modelling community generally (seen a review of a BM or a Pegasus kit in a SAMI or FSM lately? Add that to the fact that many modellers (unless otherwise motivated) will steer away from limited run kits of obscure subjects due to the poor reputation for moulding quality many limited kits have (Despite BM and Pegasus generally being better than that). I regard the German thing as being an extension of the 'German + Me10thingie" boom that Shane mentioned earlier - the reasons for why that occurred are complex and getting outside of OT too much maybe. All the Best Neil E ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. 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UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:24:21 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Book Question Message-ID: <008701c19a8b$1dceac60$25e8b094@sandyada> I've got several of these multi vol sets and I think I've got this one, Lance - its in 13 vols from Amalgamated Press Ltd and edited by a guy called HW Wilson? Its the sort of general history that was prevalent at the time - lots of stuff about the victorious allies and our noble friends, but a good source of rare pictures although most are reproduced in a blurry of pixel dots and not too sharp. I should imagine the reissue might be the same. There are some good chapters on the aerial war, and some good pics - some ID charts of allied and central - but a set for the WWI book collector rather than modeller. I knew of a complete 13vol set in a book shop in Blairgowrie which was for sale for 65 pounds if I remember correctly - but I did pass this on to the list about a year ago and it may have gone by now. I haven't been over there for ages so don't know. If you are interested I can find out for you. Problem is that the cost of shipping to US would be pretty high - the complete set weighs a ton! LMK Sandy --------------------- Having gotten no joy on my pitot tube question, here's another: Anyone familiar with this book? "The Great War: Illustrated History of the First World War" Supposedly it has12,500 photographs and 400 maps in 13 volumes, and was originally published over a period from 1914 - 1919. It is being re-published by Trident. I'm tempted, but have never heard of this... anyone? TIA Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:57:12 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: RE: tire color (again) Message-ID: <000901c19a8e$b9debb60$7a3dfad1@dwfjv01> > Now THAT'S a name I'd like on my CV. I know it is a perfectly normal > word, just sounds funny in English. Sorry.... > N > > >.. Again the Continental Gummiwerke... Nigel has an image of a CV being flown by Gummi-Bears with tires of the same color/consistency. Sorta "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds"-ish isn't it? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:16:36 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paints was Re: Re: Fokker F.1 ist Kaput . . Nicht!!! Message-ID: <196.e84bde.29702394@aol.com> Len writes: << Citadel, however, are formulated for painting snip designed from the start to be properly brushed. snip hardly any of which are useable from the pot on WW1 aircraft. This forces you to mix-your-own>> I backed into this hobby again starting with painting figs from Citadel for my two children when they were tykes. (big fun-wonderful stuff). They grew up and I regressed. Somebody has to cover the job description......WW1 fit perfectly. So- I agree. Here is where Citadel is an excellent compadre: Soft greys - a nice range from cool to warm and in mid to lighter value - perfect for us. Wood colors - some of their browns are pretty good to go right from the pot as the various choices for woods in cockpit area - they wash and glaze wonderfully. Work from light to dark and you are staring at 'wood' without decals or labor. Vivid colors - reds, yellows and some blues These often require mixing, but I would rather start 'true' and then knock it down from there. Obtaining a color is harder than knocking it down. So a good baseline, here. Most of all--the pigment (if not a dye color) is non-existent. They never chalk or lump. The only other water-based paint of this quality I know is WinsorNewton watercolors. Citadel makes first rate paint from the fundamentals, up. Their 'Bone white' is a great base to use for CDL. A spot of a warm tan, a bit of white and you are looking at soemthing that dries out to a pretty good facimile. Otherwise? The old stand-bys in acrylics...and- Am looking to better acquaint myself with MisterKit paints. Ken ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 2002 03:17:47 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: tire color (again) (ot) Message-ID: <20020111111747.1324.cpmta@c016.snv.cp.net> On Thu, 10 January 2002, "Lee M." wrote: > Some guy named Goodrich did it. Goodrich got rich because of that. > > Lee M. oh yeah I guess I should have known that - considering I work for Goodrich Aerospace. But, the truth is, Goodrich doesn't make tires anymore. They sold the tire division to Michelin (including the name and logotype). Which is why you still see BFGoodrich tires on the market. But people think tires when they see the name, we still get people driving up to the facility looking to get their tires rotated and balanced :-) Corporate desided to go through the pain and expense of a name/logo change to try and rectify the situation. so they dropped the BF. I don't think it worked... Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:27:39 +0800 From: abc@abc.com To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: =?GB2312?B?ytPGtbvh0uk=?= Message-ID: <200201111127.GAA24059@mustang.sr.unh.edu> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:31:32 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: tire color (again) (ot) Message-ID: > considering I work for Goodrich Aerospace...................... >But people think tires when they see the name, we still get people >driving up to the facility looking to get their tires rotated and >balanced :-) Good grief what in? F-18's? N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:36:08 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Eduard News Correction Message-ID: <101073829301@smtp.vphos.net> I thought all Pegasus/BM kits were in runs of 2000 Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:49:47 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Eduard News Correction Message-ID: <118.ac349a3.2970396b@aol.com> Bob writes: << I thought all Pegasus/BM kits were in runs of 2000 >> "No. 0244 in a Limited Editon of 1500" (this case, a Camel sheet am looking at) Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:28:04 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paints Message-ID: >From: "Len Smith" >The difference between Citadel and most other acrylics for >modelmaker's >use is that the latter are formulated for use in that >invention of the >Devil - the airbrush. Len: Well, I like the airbrush and other instruments of the devil such as motor cars, washing machines and electric guitars. Acrylics are actually quite fiddly for airbrushing because they tend to dry quickly and clog up the mechanism. Enamels are preferable because they actually "flush" the mechanism as they go through it; unfortuantely, they have to have a venting system. Have you used Mister Kit paints? If so, could you say how they compare to Citadel? Finally, I keep two jars of Marmite in the house just in case I run out. It takes me a while (at least 3 weeks) to get through an extra-large jar because nobody else in the house or any of my friends will go near it. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:30:37 -0000 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Eduard News Correction Message-ID: Bob Pretty certain they are 1500 Tom -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson [mailto:bpearson@kaien.net] Sent: 11 January 2002 12:40 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Eduard News Correction I thought all Pegasus/BM kits were in runs of 2000 Bob This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. 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The color up close is darker, deeper, more saturated, more the "real" color (sorry to throw all these technical terms around). To toss a grossly ot example (it's not even about planes!) out here for everyone's perusal, think about the Wehrmacht "Panzer Grey" color used on pre-1943 vehicles (sorry, I forgot the RLM number -- is it 63?). I just can not and will not -- EVER -- believe that seeing a tank painted in that through a range finder at 500 yards is gonna look that black. No way. And yet, the Reichswhatchamacallit paint chips for that scheme are still in existence, and Tamiya, Gunze, etc. used them as the base for their RLM colors. I don't know. Must be a gestalt thing or something. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:05:33 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Eduard News Correction Message-ID: <005c01c19aa9$0914e780$0fe82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Bob > > Pretty certain they are 1500 > > Tom Perhaps now, but the BM Nie.11 has no. 7XX of 1500 on the sheet. It was an early release . Thats good news, 500 more per run on the new releases. More the merrier. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:26:40 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Lozenge question Aviatik Berg D.I Message-ID: <000001c19aae$edc0b120$0100005a@ptd.net> > Personally, I think the colors are unacceptable and would replace them with > Americal decals, or use a non-hex scheme. I did mine in Autumn Leaf from Americal....very cool looking. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:34:11 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: message for Ken Acosta Message-ID: <00ed01c19ab5$6c807300$25e8b094@sandyada> Ken I have been trying to send you Triplane rigging pic for some time but all mail keeps bouncing - is there another address I can send to? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:06:50 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: A request and an update Message-ID: So you're making a pair of white and rabbit coloured lion cubs, whisky and soda, they should be Black&White I think I've gone wrong somewhere! /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Ugulano [mailto:Uggies@compuserve.com] > Sent: den 10 januari 2002 19:40 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: A request and an update > > > >> I love Uggie's guessing games - remeber no 100 ?! << > > What excellent guesses but not close. > > Here are two more clues. > > I met with a client yesterday and they had 5 Arabian > horses and > three were white. A little brushing and I had all of the > supplies I needed > for my project. That and the rabbit fur and I'm all set. > > A better clue than Nieuport 28 is N. 124 Lafayette Escadrille. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm > Page Revised 10/13/01 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:08:26 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: A request and an update Message-ID: It just hit me, you're doing an indian chief! /Neil C, > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Ugulano [mailto:Uggies@compuserve.com] > Sent: den 10 januari 2002 19:40 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: A request and an update > > > >> I love Uggie's guessing games - remeber no 100 ?! << > > What excellent guesses but not close. > > Here are two more clues. > > I met with a client yesterday and they had 5 Arabian > horses and > three were white. A little brushing and I had all of the > supplies I needed > for my project. That and the rabbit fur and I'm all set. > > A better clue than Nieuport 28 is N. 124 Lafayette Escadrille. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm > Page Revised 10/13/01 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:27:40 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: tire color (again) Message-ID: In the copy of Avions I'm reading there is a pic of a I15 or I16 (Matt alert) in Roumania, there are no tyres, and the reason (if my understanding of french is correct) is that they were made of Katchouk (sp?), and the roumanian soldiers had pinched them to use as chewing gum! /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Miller [mailto:albatros1212@altavista.com] > Sent: den 10 januari 2002 22:33 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] tire color (again) > > > I know we have discussed this before > And I realize that in the WW1 time frame that they did not > add black pigment to rubber which resulted in a much lighter > tire color. > But, I guess I figured the color would be sort of like a > rubber cement ball - kind of a light grey/tan/??? > indiscriminant color. > I was a little surprised to see this picture: > http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Ger/Halb_ClIV/ClIV14.jpg > > which shows a gleaming pearly white tire. Now I'm sure just a > couple of days of use would knock the edge off. But even so, > this is far lighter than I had imagined. > And it seems a little odd that in many B&W photos the tires > seem quite dark. > Different formulas? > > Mark > > > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:35:49 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: How Many Times? Message-ID: Howdy Gang! I am interested in hearing back from you scratchbuilding types. It seems when I scratchbuild detail items I make them three times. The first attempt is the learning curve. The sophmore attempt is to verify the methods and the third time is the charm. Or is it that I am sick of this little b88l$*#t part and am ready to move on? I need my skills to grow such that I can build pieces I can be happy with on the first attempt. I think I am going to have to make a fourth pilot's seat for my Gotha. I know how I want it too look, but I can't quite get there. The problem is getting believable stretch marks in it. How many times, on average, do you make a part before deeming it acceptable? Later! Brent (who actually lost the Gotha instrument panel #2 due to a large sneeze al la Lance) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:42:11 -0800 From: Myles Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Schnieder Tank kit FS Message-ID: <4.1.20020111095609.009f8220@pop.thc.state.tx.us> Hello everyone: I saw this posted on Missing Links website, and thought some of the OT Armor builders and BBQ participants among the list membership would be interested: > January 10 2002 at 5:55 PM Bob Collignon > I've got about 350 years of models ahead of me and only about 30 years left time to downsize???? > Rules; I'll ship anywhere, you pay S+H, about $4 for first kit in the US, I ship priority US mail in the US, > checks OK but MO's faster, International MO's only from out of the US. > 2. Commander's WW1 french Schneider Tank, full kit' $35 or both for $50 > That's it thanks for looking and hopefully buying(lots):):):) Best Bob C > cjltd@adelphia.net I'm very interested in this kit and his quoted price is very reasonable. Unfortunately, after XMas, a couple recent winning ebay bids, and some misc. purchases, I'm running a domestic budget deficit at the moment. (if anyone buys both kits, save one for me sometime in the future !!!) Enjoy, Myles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:42:46 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Decals Message-ID: Hi Volker, I wanted to let you know your money is on the way to you. Hopefully you will receive it shortly. Thank you very much for doing the decals and please keep me posted on any others that you bring out. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:47:17 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Decals Message-ID: Ooops! Obviously that was supposed to be off list! I'm not sending anybody else any money, excpet Bob, I'm all out! :-) Brent _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:47:27 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Schnieder Tank kit FS Message-ID: <24.1f219e98.2970711f@aol.com> In a message dated Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:39:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, Myles Miller writes: > Hello everyone: > I saw this posted on Missing Links website, and thought some of the OT Armor > builders and BBQ participants among the list membership would be interested: > January 10 2002 at 5:55 PM Bob Collignon > > I've got about 350 years of models ahead of me and only about 30 years left > time to downsize????> > > 2. Commander's WW1 french Schneider Tank, full kit' $35 or both for $50 I have this kit and it is very nice, I picked up some great Commanders OT stuff at teh US Nationals for an absolutely great price. I recommend this kit. My only problem was launching the bowplate across the room when I was using my dremel to cut off the casting plug. Although it's a tank, the aerodynamics were spectacular. I've pretty much stuck to my Xacto saw since then. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:01:08 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hey Ernie Message-ID: Hey Ernie! How is it going there in NO? I tried calling a few times a couple months ago. Since then I have lost your email address and phone number. As you can surmise I am severly lacking in organizational skills. Why don't you send your mailing address to me so I can get this vinyl warrior chick out of my garage. :-) I have a load of stuff to take to the post office anyway and I'd like to include yours. How's everything going? Family all right? The new single life meeting with your expectations? School? Stay in touch! Brent _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:09:28 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Dang! was Hey Ernie Message-ID: Dang! Twice in one day! Those organizational skills are really showing... Sorry group, Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:30:41 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Book Question Message-ID: Thanks, all for the input. Sandy, it looks like there are enough of these sets floating around that we needn't mail them from the UK. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:32:05 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Camo Colors- Munsell conversion Message-ID: When or Matt is clear, I have a small informational .jpg file to send. We were talking earlier this week about the Munsell conversion program. I used it to do some screen renderings of the colors in 5-color lozenge. What this jpg file shows is the colors from the Datafiles and website for top and bottom on the left half, and the colors from Hans Trauner's e-mail this week for the repro fabric. The values were run through the converter, and a couple of renderings made. Matt, are you accepting this type of thing while Alan is snowed? .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:35:51 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: How Many Times? Message-ID: Brent, it's clearly your organizational skills that force you to remake these parts multiple times. But for what it's worth, I often end up needing two attempts, and some things resist fabrication indefinitely! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:51:38 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: tire color (again) Message-ID: <3C3F262A.C31ED74B@helsinki.fi> Neil wrote: > In the copy of Avions I'm reading there is a pic of a I15 > or I16 (Matt alert) in Roumania, there are no tyres, and the > reason (if my understanding of french is correct) is that they > were made of Katchouk (sp?), and the roumanian soldiers had > pinched them to use as chewing gum! Err. Caoutchouc? That would be rubber in French. Of which the tyres are generally made. ;-) Jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:55:17 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How Many Times? Message-ID: <24.1f1da651.29708105@aol.com> --part1_24.1f1da651.29708105_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brent, one of the joys of scratch building is that you CAN make the same part over and over again until you are satisfied (I won't say happy). You don't have to ditch half your stash because Tamigawa bring out a better kit that the ones you have. You don't have to burn joss sticks at the four corners of your modeling board in hopes that Sierra or Koster will do you a favour. There is of course a downsideI to all of this in the "Shane Effect"; ie: If you build it, the kits will come. But you have freed the slaves, so enjoy it cheers Peter L --part1_24.1f1da651.29708105_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brent, one of the joys of scratch building is that you CAN make the same part over and over again until you are satisfied (I won't say happy). You don't have to ditch half your stash because Tamigawa bring out a better kit that the ones you have. You don't have to burn joss sticks at the four corners of your modeling board in hopes that Sierra or Koster will do you a favour. There is of course a downsideI to all of this in the "Shane Effect"; ie: If you build it, the kits will come. But you have freed the slaves, so enjoy it

cheers

Peter L --part1_24.1f1da651.29708105_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4060 **********************