WWI Digest 4048 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Flying Leatherneck Ninacks by Balzer Mr Gregory P 2) USA Fokker D.VII another question... by "Ross Moorhouse" 3) Alps Decals and English as She is spoke by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 4) Re: ICM by Witold Kozakiewicz 5) Another victem by Allan Wright 6) Re: Rotherham Air Pumps Again by "Dave Burke" 7) 爱音乐! 爱 CD! 就爱CDHome! by "mycdhome@sohu.com" 8) Re: Dont you hate it when.. by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 9) Re: lps Decals and English as She is spoke by KnnthS@aol.com 10) Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1685946230: OLD RARETANKS VAC FORM A7U TANK WWI by GRBroman@aol.com 11) Re: Books by that *other* David Fletcher by GRBroman@aol.com 12) Re: Another victem by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 13) Re: USA Fokker D.VII another question... by "ot811" 14) Problematic German Camo Colors, was, Voss again!!! by "StefenK" 15) Re: USA Fokker D.VII another question... by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: Problematic German Camo Colors, was, Voss again!!! by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 17) Re: ICM by "Hans Trauner" 18) Re: Blue Max DH.2 wanted by "Hans Trauner" 19) Re: ARRRRGH by "Hans Trauner" 20) Re: Inside Eduard by "cameron rile" 21) Re: Dr. Goo-fee by KarrArt@aol.com 22) RE: OT reads by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: Luedemann (was Re: Wings in the Night-Caproni Bombers) by Karen Rychlewski 24) Above the Lines & Over the Front by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 25) Re: Alps Decals and English as She is spoke by "Bob Pearson" 26) Re: Alps Decals and English as She is spoke by "Bob Pearson" 27) Re: Alps Decals and English as She is spoke by KnnthS@aol.com 28) Lone Star Junkers Info and More by "Brent Theobald" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:45:52 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Flying Leatherneck Ninacks Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C976013C24D7@TECOM03E> The museum is closed over the winter months, but I'm trying to see if I can work a deal with some folks down at the Historical Branch to let me in during the off season. I'm almost certain they will. I will take photos of as many items as I can, and see if I can get some shots that Bob can use as references for decals, scans of any artwork etc. They also have an collection of WW I AFVs, so for you AFV Bar-B-Q types I'll see what I can get. /R/ Greg In a message dated 1/7/2002 8:15:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil writes: > Rory, > I work aboard Marine Corps Base Quantico. I believe they have a restored DH9 down in the hanger. If you want I'll stop > by and check. If it's there I'll take some digi photos, and see if they have any historical references to specific aircraft. > HTH > Greg Balzer > Hey Greg, while your at it, I could use some good close-up photo's of the Marine Corps Insignia's on the planes used over the years if possible, especially the earliest ones? Best Regards, Jon Semper Fi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 00:10:00 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: USA Fokker D.VII another question... Message-ID: <000c01c19845$c736b060$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Seeing that the outside of the USA Fokker D.VII was OD. What would the colour of the fabric on the inside, as seen in the cockpit, have been? TIA Ross ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:11:00 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Alps Decals and English as She is spoke Message-ID: <4f.16a2a75c.296c49e4@aol.com> --part1_4f.16a2a75c.296c49e4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amazing isn't it. I want to buy an Alps (called OKI over here) to release me from the constraints of available decals. But when someone says; "I've got one. What would you like?" I can't think of a bloody thing. Currently I would like an accurate Cigogne insignia to replace the road kill in the Hobbycraft kit, but that's just currently. Maybe that's the reason I need one; so I can act on modeler's impulse on a daily basis and just "save as..." without actually printing anything. That's it! I need a virtual Alps printer! Cheaper too. I feel much better now. As a Brit I suppose I should comment on Gaston's ill chosen words. It seems there is a history here that I somehow missed. Without reference to that however, I choose to take a more charitable view than most. English is a language full of nuances to trap the unwary none-native speaker. As Shane recently pointed out the nicest thing you can call an Aussie is a "baarst'd". I bet that confuses a few "new Australians". Change just one word in Gaston's original post, to say "bat" or "dear", and his immoderate remark is transformed into a good natured ribbing. SWMBO is terminally foreign and has a way of opening her mouth and putting her foot in it so maybe I see it differently Well, anyway, think about it. cheers Peter L --part1_4f.16a2a75c.296c49e4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amazing isn't it. I want to buy an Alps (called OKI over here) to release me from the constraints of available decals. But when someone says;

      
      "I've got one. What would you like?"


I can't think of a bloody thing. Currently I would like an accurate Cigogne insignia to replace the road kill in the Hobbycraft kit, but that's just currently. Maybe that's the reason I need one; so I can act on modeler's impulse on a daily basis and just "save as..." without actually printing anything. That's it! I need a virtual Alps printer! Cheaper too. I feel much better now.


As a Brit I suppose I should comment on Gaston's ill chosen words. It seems there is a history here that I somehow missed. Without reference to that however, I choose to take a more charitable view than most. English is a language full of nuances to trap the unwary none-native speaker. As Shane recently pointed out the nicest thing you can call an Aussie is a "baarst'd". I bet that confuses a few "new Australians".  Change just one word in Gaston's original post, to say "bat" or "dear", and his immoderate remark is transformed into a good natured ribbing. SWMBO is terminally foreign and has a way of opening her mouth and putting her foot in it so maybe I see it differently Well, anyway, think about it.

cheers

Peter L
--part1_4f.16a2a75c.296c49e4_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 14:15:22 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ICM Message-ID: <3C3AF0EA.4020202@bg.am.lodz.pl> I read on pl.rec.modelarstwo (Polish r.m.s) that ICM most probably will divide into two new firms. One in Ukraine and one in Russia. Old ICM T-28 tank appeared under new IDK label in November, so maybe this is only changing names like Toko -> Roden and EE. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:38:30 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Another victem Message-ID: <200201081338.IAA19969@mustang.sr.unh.edu> It looks like Kan Hagerup got booted for mail problems. If you know him tell him to call his ISP. Logs follow: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your message has encountered delivery problems to the following recipient(s): hagerupk@stratcom.mil Delivery failed 554 Invalid data in message Sent: (message data) Received:554 Invalid data in message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:00:07 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Rotherham Air Pumps Again Message-ID: <000d01c1984c$c8918140$6173fea9@s0024008072> > Can anyone help me with these questions.... > > All the Best > > Neil E > Hi Neil, Did you look to see whether the pumps had been relocated? Like as to the undercarriage legs? Many Sopwith Camels had this done as the vibration from the Rotherham pump could cause fractures in the cabane strut that it was mounted to. Also the vibration threw the gunnery aim off. To see the Rotherham pump that I cobbled up for my big Camel (NO it is still not done), go to the Photo Gallery and look me up and look at the Camel pics. One day I'll finish that Camel... DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:36:28 From: "mycdhome@sohu.com" To: Subject: 爱音乐! 爱 CD! 就爱CDHome! 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Message-ID: <5F4636CE02C4D511B0D600065B04EA090158F990@ITCREX002.tarrantcounty.com> I bought a pair of plastic tweezers from a computer store (Frye's) for picking up magnetized wire when rigging. They're not good enough for day-to-day regular work, but do well as a substitute when wire gets bipolar. You can find them in the section for those aficianadoes who like to fiddle with computer innards. Cheap, too. Marc Flake ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:49:54 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: lps Decals and English as She is spoke Message-ID: <9c.19115313.296c6112@aol.com> Peter L. moderates: << Well, anyway, think about it. >> Methinks you're on to something. I do that all the time, and in English, my *only* language. A thot for "Scaling the ALPS, on Impulse": Share the files one "saves as" to one who has said printer and on that basis, transact. Example, Bob Pearson sounds like he's recently got his hands full but is looking fwd to helping the list as well as a little compensation for his efforts. Reasonable enough...Is it possible there is a way to make this work better for all concerned? i.e. "Hey Bob, is there any way to help?" and etc. just a tho't. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 09:50:29 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1685946230: OLD RARETANKS VAC FORM A7U TANK WWI Message-ID: <109.b77d6f0.296c6135@aol.com> If any one wants one of these, and wants to save soem time and effort, make me an offer off list. I have one set of 2 unbuilt. I have another set that has one unbuilt. This was actually teh first vacform I ever made waaaaaay back in the early to mid 70's sometime. I still have it. Glen In a message dated Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:58:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, modelhound@earthlink.net writes: > I saw this item for sale at eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM, and thought that you might be interested. > > Title of item: OLD RARETANKS VAC FORM A7U TANK WWI > Seller: mikesmodelkits > Starts: Jan-03-02 22:54:49 PST > Ends: Jan-10-02 22:54:49 PST > Price: Starts at $15.00 > To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1685946230 > > > Item Description: > KIT NUMBER ? - SCALE IS 1/76 - MINT KIT IN GREAT PACKAGE. > ONLY 500 MADE! > On Jan-05-02 at 01:41:42 PST, seller added the following information: > > > > > > > After purchasing, pay instantly with your credit card through PayPal! > > > function dw(nu){document.write(s1+"ppslv"+nu+".gif"+s2+sA[nu]);}f1="document.links";s1="\","\"Winning bidder, click here to pay instantly by credit card!\"\","\"Winning bidder, click here to pay instantly by credit card!\"\");c1=c2=c3=c4=0;for(i=0;i=0){c1++;}else if((eval(f1+"["+i+"].search")).indexOf("BetterSeller")=0){c2++;}else if((eval(f1+"["+i+"].search")).indexOf("ListItemForSaleShow")=0){c3++;}else if((eval(f1+"["+i+"].hash")).indexOf("ListItemForSaleAutosShow")=0){c4++;}}}if((c1=2)||(c20)||(c30)||(c40)){dw(3);}else{dw(2);}f11="xclick-auction";f13="iid=";f14="";for(i=0;i0){s11=document.links[i].search;j=s11.indexOf(f13);if(j0){s11=s11.slice((j+(f13.length)));for(k=0;k=0){var p=new Array();p[0]=document.links[i].protocol;p[1]=document.links[i].hostname;p[2]=document.links[i].pathname;for(j=0;j > > > > > > > > > On Jan-05-02 at 04:54:33 PST, seller added the following information: > BidPay.com- auction payments made easy. www.BidPay.com > > Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 09:55:17 EST From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Books by that *other* David Fletcher Message-ID: <155.6f56b2c.296c6255@aol.com> I just got this bok for my birthday, I'll look through it tonoght and let you know. Glen In a message dated Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:23:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Bob Pearson" writes: > Hi All, > > Lately I have been seeing ads for a new book on WWI British armour by David > Fletcher. It is titled something like British Tanks 1915-1918 .. is this an > all new volume or a rehashing of his earlier volume which I also forget the > title of (its boxed up right now). > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 15:02:10 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: Another victem Message-ID: <1010502130.3c3b09f25fdf3@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Allan Wright : > It looks like Kan Hagerup got booted for mail problems. If you know him > tell him to call his ISP. Logs follow: > > hagerupk@stratcom.mil > With that ISP, you'd have to be brave to tell 'em anything !! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:12:47 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: USA Fokker D.VII another question... Message-ID: <001401c19856$f2a20b80$0800010a@cyberelan.com> For another and more clear picture of the sheep-herding device, see photo on pg 3 of Windsock Fokker DVII Anthology-1. Except the french call it peetoh regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:53:47 -0500 From: "StefenK" To: "WWI Modeling List" Subject: Problematic German Camo Colors, was, Voss again!!! Message-ID: <3C2A4F4800146877@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Mon, 7 Jan 2002 05:00:40 -0600 , Warren wrote: "If this is the case ['The varnish caused a yellow shift in the sky blue to turquoise.'], how come all the other German a/c that had sky blue undersides weren't/aren't listed as having been turquiose also?" And, "Unless someone comes up with the actual a/c, I think it will always be conjecture." Indeed, the identification of Fokker underside blue for both Dr. Is and early D.VIIs as "turquoise" is nothing but speculation and is not entirely consistent with the contemporary reports of which I am aware that use terms like sky blue, light blue, pale blue. Of course, such terms do not entirely exclude "turquoise" as one possible member of such color families. Furthermore, any of the hue identifications for German camouflage colors that are based solely on the supposed ability to match color chips to grayscale tones in period photographs must be considered to be highly suspect. Doing so to the precision of providing Methuen codes pretends to a level of specificity that is simply not achievable. Unfortunately, I believe this leaves the hue identity of most of the German camouflage colors (and probably all of the unit colors) rather less definitive than sometimes suggested. AFAIK there are no surviving examples of the following: Albatros light or dark green (olive), red-brown, metalwork gray; Idflieg "mauve" (aka lilac, purple); Fokker sky blue, strut gray (D. VIIs); various other light blues/grays, browns, and greens of other manufacturers (eg, Roland, Pfalz). Further, samples of Fokker green (olive) and Albatros metalwork green are extremely limited, aand drawing conclusions about them, therefore, should be less than dogmatic. With respect to the former, I am aware of only one report on the IWM Dr. I fabric sample by Paul Leaman (privately circulated?). We don't have an example of t he solid color as applied to cowlings, for instance. With respect to the latter, there is the AWM example and perhaps others (Gosse collection), but I unaware of whether controlled color matching has been reported for these. If other List members have additional information on the foundations for various color specifications, I would be grateful for their feedback. This leaves modelers and others free to choose their colors from rather broadly understood color families, consistent perhaps with the kinds of values known to be used for camouflage in better documented periods and air arms. Such freedom may not be so unfortunate after all. VBR to all, Stefen ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:42:57 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: USA Fokker D.VII another question... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/8/02 5:13:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, rossmoor@bigpond.net.au writes: << Seeing that the outside of the USA Fokker D.VII was OD. What would the colour of the fabric on the inside, as seen in the cockpit, have been? TIA Ross >> Fabric color. The same book quoted for O.D. also gave the whole doping scheme- four coats clear dope followed by the O.D., which was oil base enamel. So, the color coats wouldn't soak through the sealed fabric. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:00:28 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Problematic German Camo Colors, was, Voss again!!! Message-ID: <141.78a38ad.296c7fac@aol.com> --part1_141.78a38ad.296c7fac_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only sample of WWI German blue I have seen was that visible under the flaking red paint on a four or five inch square of fabric said to be from Manfred's 425/17. The specemin was in the RAF Museum but it was twenty some years ago and I cannot say whether there was a Rodney Gerrard connection. However, it was a blue only slightly paler than RAF Azure Blue from the second unpleasentness, not turquoise. dicta Ira Peter L --part1_141.78a38ad.296c7fac_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only sample of WWI German blue I have seen was that visible under the flaking red paint on a four or five inch square of fabric said to be from Manfred's 425/17. The specemin was in the RAF Museum but it was twenty some years ago and I cannot say whether there was a Rodney Gerrard connection. However, it was a blue only slightly paler than RAF Azure Blue from the second unpleasentness, not turquoise.

dicta Ira

Peter L
--part1_141.78a38ad.296c7fac_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:12:53 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: ICM Message-ID: <001d01c19867$b5817c20$fe78a8c0@FRITZweb> I will ask the guy who declares himself the general importeur for Germany. May be the moulds could be rescued. H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:13 AM Subject: [WWI] ICM > Hi all, > > Word from Earl at NKR (who deals with them all the time) is that ICM is out > of business. > > Probably true, and not just yet another rumour. > > Bugger. It's always bad to lose a model company, especially one that took a > few risks to produce something new. I guess the moulds will find a new > owner, but there won't be any new ones > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 > Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:31:40 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max DH.2 wanted Message-ID: <007d01c1986a$5584b3c0$fe78a8c0@FRITZweb> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! Please, not! H. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:43 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Blue Max DH.2 wanted > In a message dated 1/7/02 4:53:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, bucky@tokai.or.jp > writes: > > << > btw, has anyone noticed that the panel lines on the Eduard D.II are off (at > least according to Ian Stair)? Ditto, in fact, for D.III. > > Bucky >> > > Yep. When I converted the Eduard D.III to D.I using the CygResin D.II set, I > noticed the panel lines were goofy- not just by staring at Stair, but looking > at photos with a squinty pirate-eye. > RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:35:58 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: ARRRRGH Message-ID: <009901c1986a$ef5ba300$fe78a8c0@FRITZweb> As the other unofficial archaelogist I have to confirm that. Greek gods were satisfied when they got *models* of real objects! So nowadays models of models = Merlin will do it! H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Goodwin" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:45 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: ARRRRGH > Uh, sorry, but as unofficial list archaeologist, I'll have to pull rank here. > In many cases, pagan gods (all of whom were very well regarded in their time) > were thought to be perfectly satisfied with old or lame animals (especially in > prehistoric Ukraine) criminals (Britannum and Gaul) and war captives (Central > and South America). So I suppose it depends on which deity you're trying to > supplicate...many of the lesser deities of antiquity were much less demanding > than the Judeo-Christian big 'G'. > > Michael Kendix wrote: > > > >From: "Hans Trauner" > > >May be it helps when we sacrify a kit every month to keep the gods >calm? I > > >will donate my Merlin kits! > > > > I'm sorry but this may not do. Any deity worthy of the name knows what's > > what. So, when Cain did not offer up the best of his stash, he received a > > less than satisfactory response. > > > > Michael > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 102 12:36:34 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Inside Eduard Message-ID: <24F178D6F37F3604E851A4F3BD6B7070@cameron.prontomail.com> Fraser, >Should I fake up some Journo Credentials and >see if I can get an interview? Do an interview anyway, I am sure there are plenty of online e-model-zines that would publish such an interview. You could ask them questions about their operations, their plans, why they chose WWI initially, etc etc etc. I would definately be interested in reading such an interiew. Do it anyway since you are in the right part of the planet to take advantage of it . cam www.australianflyingcorps.org ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:20:59 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dr. Goo-fee Message-ID: <12d.a7b255a.296c928b@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/02 10:04:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, KnnthS@aol.com writes: << Rob't squints: << but looking at photos with a squinty pirate-eye. >> H'ar, I hopes it was a Ira eye, me hearty. >> H'ar..... 'twas the Ira eye......I keeps it in a mayonnaise jar full of formaldehyde and brings it out when I needs a bit of extra inspection power. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:21:01 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: OT reads Message-ID: <14.2084d555.296c928d@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/02 8:33:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, rorygood@earthlink.net writes: << I heartily concur with Nigel's review of this book. Required reading if you're building or thinking about building a G.IV or V. You will never again be able to see the squiggly Thames at the beginning of 'Eastenders' without picturing P.u.W. bombs falling... Nigel Rayner wrote:> > Another great OT read if anyone is interested is "The Sky On Fire" by > Raymond Fredette. This is a great account of the first battle of Britain > (Gotha and Giant raids) and is well researched and written. It really brings > the events and the people involved to life and I found it to be > "unputdownable" as they say. ...............Great book, highly recommended.>> One of the staples of Gotha lore. I bought it in hardback almost 30 years ago and it's still good to dip into from time to time. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 13:23:30 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Luedemann (was Re: Wings in the Night-Caproni Bombers) Message-ID: <3C3B3922.66EF14F3@earthlink.net> Goodness, you get up early, Matt... I don't dispute that the one you have has some flaws--everyone has a bad day, even resin casters. But the ones I have (12 at last count) are flawless. A random check just now of the Otto Doppeldecker, Gotha Taube, and Jeannin Stahltaube confirmed my opinion. A few, as I recall without rummaging through all the boxes, had some detail that was a bit softer, but certainly the whole flock of Tauben is very nice indeed. The 'instructions' leave a lot to be desired, but what the hey, who needs references to build an Otto... Maybe it's the Nieuport curse :-) BTW, I don't think the Caudron R.4 is by Luedemann; have a vague recollection that Detlef said it was a Czech kit--but it's been so long ago... Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:55:00 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Above the Lines & Over the Front Message-ID: Hi Folks, How good are the above titles by Norman Franks with respect to modeling reference???? Also, are they good historical reference??? Any thoughts are appreciated!! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 11:01:47 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Alps Decals and English as She is spoke Message-ID: <101051654301@smtp.vphos.net> >From: KnnthS@aol.com > A thought for "Scaling the ALPS, on Impulse": > Share the files one "saves as" to one who has said printer and on that basis, > transact. > Example, Bob Pearson sounds like he's recently got his hands full but is > looking fwd to helping the list as well as a little compensation for his > efforts. Reasonable enough...Is it possible there is a way to make this work > better for all concerned? > i.e. "Hey Bob, is there any way to help?" and etc. > just a thought. If someone has vectored artwork that is ready for printing, it could be a possibility. But that's not really fair to the person who contributes the artwork, since I am charging for doing the printing.and all they get is a set of decals. Right now I'm sorta snobbish about using my own artwork so there are no hassles over copyright down the road. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 11:01:39 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Alps Decals and English as She is spoke Message-ID: <101051653601@smtp.vphos.net> > Amazing isn't it. I want to buy an Alps (called OKI over here) to release me > from the constraints of available decals. But when someone says; > > "I've got one. What would you like?" > > I can't think of a bloody thing. Currently I would like an accurate Cigogne > insignia to replace the road kill in the Hobbycraft kit, but that's just > currently. It's as bad for those of us with one. ... just too many possibilities. However the Cicogne is already done .. so I suppose printing it in its various colour combinations is doable. Just have to decide if it should be other French insignias as well or do the various SPA.3 markings I have done. How sharp is the A/G sheet? the one I have of individual A-H markings is pretty jagged and not crisp edges at all. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:07:54 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Alps Decals and English as She is spoke Message-ID: Bob P writes: << Right now I'm sorta snobbish about using my own artwork so there are no hassles over copyright down the road. >> understood. thanks, Bob Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:29:44 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Lone Star Junkers Info and More Message-ID: Howdy Gang! After getting caught up in the bidding war for the Lone Star Junkers J.I (which I thankfully lost) I decided to see what could be done about making the Lone Star Junkers kits more available. I emailed Mike West of Lone Star Models: "There seems to be a fair amount of interest in your Junkers D.I and J.I. How many people would you need to commit to purchasing a kit before you would consider re-releasing it?" His response was: "I have already re-released the D-I kit. The J-I is available too except that I have been unable to get an order of the brass parts for it from my supplier." I also asked: "I haven't been able to find reference to either the Junkers D.I or J.I on your web site. I'd like to quote price and availability before getting back to the WWI list." Mike's response: "The J-I should be listed but I may have taken it off. The D-I will be relisted when the site is redesigned, which will be soon. It sells for $45.00 and is all resin now. I will have the 1/48 Gotha G-I and Halberstadt D-V out this year too." So, it sounds as if both Junkers kits are, or soon will be available. The Gotha G.I and Halberstadt D.V will make great additions to the 1/48 WWI arsenal. It wouldn't hurt to encourage Mike about the Gotha G.I and Halberstadt. He can be contacted at:lsmodels@pdq.net or you cab visit his web site at http://www.lonestarmodels.com I have no affiliation with Mike West or Lone Star Models. He is a nice guy that I have spoken to and I also like to help promote the production of WWI kits. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4048 **********************