WWI Digest 4037 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: aircraft accident and Euros was RE: Re: Going Metric by "Gaston Graf" 2) Re: Euro by "Hans Trauner" 3) Re: Manfred,s silk things by Volker Haeusler 4) Re: decals by "Gaston Graf" 5) RE: WWI digest 4034 by "Nigel Rayner" 6) Re: Brass heft, encased in silk by KnnthS@aol.com 7) Re: Manfred,s silk things by "Hans Trauner" 8) Re: Euro by "Gaston Graf" 9) Re: decals by "Courtney Allen" 10) Re: Manfred,s silk things by Volker Haeusler 11) Re: Manfred,s silk things by "Gaston Graf" 12) The Yellow Peril Strikes Again!! by "Dave Burke" 13) Re: Euro by "Hans Trauner" 14) Re: Euro by "Gaston Graf" 15) Re: Manfred,s silk things by "Hans Trauner" 16) Silky Dr1 at Jasta Boelcke by "Gaston Graf" 17) Manfred,s silk things by "Fraser May" 18) Re: Manfred,s silk things by "Gaston Graf" 19) Going Metric by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 20) Books on flying early aircraft, construction, etc by knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 21) RE: Manfred,s silk things by "Gaston Graf" 22) Re: decals by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 23) Re: Silky Dr1 at Jasta Boelcke by "Hans Trauner" 24) Re: decals by "Hans Trauner" 25) Re: Wings in the Night - Flying the Caproni Bomber by "ibs4421" 26) Re: decals by David Fleming 27) Jacob decals by "Rick Milas" 28) Re: Manfred,s silk things by "ibs4421" 29) RE: WWI digest 4034 by "ibs4421" 30) Inside Eduard ( german text only, sorry) by "Hans Trauner" 31) gliding Mouse by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:02:49 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: aircraft accident and Euros was RE: Re: Going Metric Message-ID: Yes, that's the story! Thanks a lot for the additional details. Did Captain Pearson later move to an island, spending his time painting color profiles? Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > > That was one of Air Canada's first 767s. The event happened shortly > after Canada's conversion to metric. The pilot, a Captain Pearson, dead > sticked it onto a go kart track (former airbase) Gimli, Manitoba. > The event > is refered to in Canadian aviation lore as the "Gimli Glider" incident. > Incidently I seem to recall that Captain Pearson retired up the west > coast of Canada somewhere to play his guitar and frighten the > neighbourhood > children by wearing shorts in public, even in January! > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:07:47 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Euro Message-ID: <00db01c1960b$7fb72440$63ad72d4@FRITZweb> Is there any European list member who wants to trade a Euro > Starter kit from his country against a kit from Luxembourg? Sorry, Gaston! I teared my kit open to buy a kit... H. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:26:43 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: Hans, "I always wonder where the story of the silk Fokker came from and what evidence is used. All I know is a photo from the Nowarra collection (sic!) which shows a silky smooth paint job. That's all. Or not?" Actually, the story comes from a far more relaible source. It was discovered by peter Grosz in Fokker factory documents. First published (I think) in "The Fokker Dr I - A Reappraisal" by Pete grosz and the late AE Ferko in Air Enthusiast Quarterly 8 (the same story was also published in a number of other publications, eg the French "Le Fana dīAviation"). To quote from AEQ 8: "In April 1918, 5 production Dr I triplanes were each covered with silk (obtained through Seekatz in Budapest) and sent to Jage I for evaluation, where it was found that they were faster, the silk remained tout longer and the gummy castor oil was easier to remove from the silk surface". Incidentally, the same article identifies "one of Richthofens red triplanes" as one *possibly* covered with silk, given itīs shiny look and the absence of the wing stacking bumps. The problem with this aircraft is as follows: The photo (the same later used by Nowarra) shows the aircraft with the famous "inverted V" on the cockpit side (in itīs early form with Iron Crosses, biot there are also photos of it with Balkennkreuze). Now this aircraft is usually identified as 425/17, and that one (as can be proven from existing fabric samples) was *not* covered with silk. There are obviously 2 possibilities: - Ferko/Grosz were wrong in their (anyway tentative) assessment or - the aircraft is actually not 425/17, but (the later) 477/17 - a theory some have already forwarded Whatever is true for the photo, the Fokker records clearly show the existence of the "silk tripes". Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:18:02 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: decals Message-ID: As far as I know, ALL European currencies are still valid until February 28. You may still pay in the countries currency but you will receive the change in Euros. After February 28th you may change old currencies only at the central bank of the respective country. If you live in Europe, you should use Euros to faciliate things. Even the Brits accept Euros, except but for the old hag on their throne who refuses to progress. happy shopping Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > > Slight correction on the A/G thing: he says he accepts payment in UK > Sterling, Deustchmarks and Euros. Obviously, the Deustchmarks no longer > apply. The pound, Swedish Krona, Danish Krone are still around. > Remaining > major European have disappeared into the EU bureaucratic mist. > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 17:34:19 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: WWI digest 4034 Message-ID: <000201c1960f$3509e000$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Bob wrote: >I feel inspired right now, so I am wondering would people rather choose >individual markings or buy sets of a theme .. ie USAS squadron insignias, >Jasta 15 etc etc ... It may be boring, but what I need most are lift here logos, strut stencils, prop logos, manufacturers badges etc etc for central powers and allied in 1/72 and 1/48. Oh and some Palmer Cord Aero Tyre (or whatever it was exactly) as well. That would be guaranteed to get the greenbacks flying out of my wallet. Anything else is interesting, but the decal pile is already so high there is nothing I really need. But obviously whatever you choose to do will still be of interest. I guess I would say allied more than central powers, because there are already so many central powers sets available (except Turkish, night be interesting...). Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:30:16 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brass heft, encased in silk Message-ID: <97.20fd2bdb.29689228@aol.com> Hans asked: << Why Anthony F. got his bad reputation as a 'scroogy' businessman? >> The ancedote I read is that *no one* was better at outfumbling for the check at any luncheon. Business or other. Further, Anthony is recorded observed as having done this at business lunches where he was *hosting* the client/prospect!!! Big Brass Ones-apparently no weight was spared on his undercart. Starting One's Own Business: Rule #1 Never use your own money. If this is true, Tony may have helped write the book. I think the silk issue was one of vanity. Everything I've read about Manfred indicates a pretty 'high-service' individual..... fwiw- Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:33:50 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: <010b01c1960f$23717b00$63ad72d4@FRITZweb> Volker, danke! >First published (I think) in > "The Fokker Dr I - A Reappraisal" by Pete grosz and the late AE Ferko in Air > Enthusiast Quarterly 8 I am getting old. I have this, of course. > The photo (the same later used by Nowarra) shows the aircraft with the > famous "inverted V" on the cockpit side To be honest, I can not see it. What's the story behind this V? >Now this aircraft is usually identified as 425/17 I think that's made me think 'be careful, Junge!' Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:37:03 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: Euro Message-ID: Aaah yes, I remember that you people only got "one kit or none" - that's what my father in law was to be told at the bank in Magdeburg as he asked for 3 kits because he wanted to give one to each of his grandchildren. Luxemburgers received as many as they wanted to have, so we bought 13 kits. Each of us openend two kits to have some money for the start, one received our oldest daughter and the rest will be kept closed. If the value will raise for collectors, this will be good and we may sell them later. If not, well then the coins still can be used normally. It was said that our kit was quoted 50 Euros already on Januray 2. Collectors also are after the Euro coins of the Vatican because there won't be as many produced as for the big European countries. Hey - no need to break in our house now. We got a huge black dog with huge white teeth and deep brown eyes plus seven old cats... btw, did you know: - that it was an idea from the Brits to have each of the Euro-Zone countries publishing their own design of coins? - that it was a Swedish idea to create bi-colored coins and avoid the use of too much Nickel? Unfortunately neither the Swedes nor the Brits participate in the change to the Euro. - that it was a German designer who created the Euro sign already years ago? (Me old man forgot his name, sorry) - that the former Luxemburgish Premier Minister Pierre Werner is counting as the mental father of the Euro? All in all a true European creation. Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Hans > Trauner > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 6:06 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Euro > > > Is there any European list member who wants to trade a Euro > > Starter kit from his country against a kit from Luxembourg? > > Sorry, Gaston! I teared my kit open to buy a kit... > > H. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:38:43 -0800 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: decals Message-ID: <004101c1960f$d298f540$cc4d510c@worldnet.att.net> No great preference, but I would like to see themes. Thanks for asking, Courtney. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:45 PM Subject: [WWI] decals > Hi all, > > I feel inspired right now, so I am wondering would people rather choose > individual markings or buy sets of a theme .. ie USAS squadron insignias, > Jasta 15 etc etc ... > > Regards, > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 20:02:44 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: "> The photo (the same later used by Nowarra) shows the aircraft with the > famous "inverted V" on the cockpit side To be honest, I can not see it. What's the story behind this V?" No story - itīs just there... Itīs a small mark/blemish/stitching line/whatever below the cockpit, consisting of a horizontal line and an inverted "V", and acting as an identifier for that aircraft. Quite prominent. Itīs on the photo on p. 25 in AEQ, but also (just) visible for example on the upper right photo on p. 36 of the "Dr I in Action" booklet. Both photos are also in the Albatros/GvW publication on "von Richthofenīs Flyinb Circus" (photos152 and 159). From memory, thereīs at least one more photo of that marking (or whatever it is), but I canīt remember where (well, weīre all getting older...) Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:48:56 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: I think that I have that photo with the inverted "V" underneath the cockpit in the book "The day the Red Baron died" by Dale M. Titler. Taking a close look at the cockpit aera reveals more such traces than the one that looks like an inverted "V". This let's me assume that the inverted "V" in fact is nothing else but a scratch - a place where a bit of paint was slightly scratched. The other traces really look the same way. Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > > The photo (the same later used by Nowarra) shows the aircraft with the > > famous "inverted V" on the cockpit side > > To be honest, I can not see it. What's the story behind this V? > > >Now this aircraft is usually identified as 425/17 > > I think that's made me think 'be careful, Junge!' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:01:21 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: The Yellow Peril Strikes Again!! Message-ID: <002901c19612$fc953860$6173fea9@s0024008072> Hello Please for to pardon we send you letter without you permission. If wish no more e-mail message send mail to dieyankeerunningdog.chi.com and we no more send message. %^^#$)+_:KJ#HRBHR#U#RY&#BINBVT&CGD#BDH#!@!%%R#BHFDHFOF(EGYFE HDFYE)*&^#GR#YBIH$IFY*(Y*(Y*Y(FWEY(OY&^&EE#@F#RH:K{$(&*{$(UF*T^ HGGFEUYU&%%#TF#F&VUUYDF&E&^HHD FKJFEUFEW&()*#&%#@%%R**@ GDCTWQ#GYO#D(G VDTWGOGYUYGUYYWRUYIGFFGYIYGGI(*#@UKBR#&FERF&T! 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DB ...Dunno where that came from... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:56:08 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Euro Message-ID: <012601c19612$40d89cc0$63ad72d4@FRITZweb> No, Sir! I simply wanted only one, and even bought it not on my 'home' bank. You could get as much as you wanted... > Aaah yes, I remember that you people only got "one kit or none" - that's > what my father in law was to be told at the bank in Magdeburg as he asked > for 3 kits Ex-GDR habit? Hans ( .... running for cover.... and beware of the ot police!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:00:58 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: Euro Message-ID: Oh well, so this was only one stupid person who said that at an Ossi-Bank... ...as for the ot cops, well we all pay our models, so money will always be part of the OT content of this list. No money - no models ;o). Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > > > No, Sir! I simply wanted only one, and even bought it not on my > 'home' bank. > You could get as much as you wanted... > > > > Aaah yes, I remember that you people only got "one kit or none" - that's > > what my father in law was to be told at the bank in Magdeburg > as he asked > > for 3 kits > > Ex-GDR habit? > > Hans > ( .... running for cover.... and beware of the ot police!) > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:20:13 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: <017a01c19615$9e7c2420$63ad72d4@FRITZweb> Itīs on the photo on p. 25 in AEQ, but also (just) visible for example on the upper right photo on p. 36 > of the "Dr I in Action" booklet. Here I can see it! To make things worse: Which colour do you guess for that bird....? Yellow? Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:39:02 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Silky Dr1 at Jasta Boelcke Message-ID: Friends, I just scanned and uploaded two pics of the Dr.1 for you. At one picture, the inverted "V" is clearly visible. I scanned the page from my book but did not edit the pictures - they are provided as is. The size of the file is 79kb. Note the other scratches at the root of the middle wing as well as at the cowling. happy modeling Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:42:00 +0100 From: "Fraser May" To: Subject: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: <001101c19618$bf4a8cc0$64c51bd4@m1i9c9> Gaston wrote: > A certain time ago I had asked Dan San Abott about the silky MvR Dr.1. He > takes said that's complete bullshit... Given the cost of covering a Triplane in silk I imagine so. I'm in Digest mode so a bit behind all the fun. BTW and totally ot (unless someone knows better) the Mongols used heavy silk shirts instead of armour because an arrow head would, due to it's spin and the toughness of the silk not penetrate very deeply and could be wound out of the wound(?) with *minimal* damage to the victim...doubt it would do that with a .303 round though. Regards Fraser ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:41:17 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: > > Here I can see it! To make things worse: Which colour do you > guess for that > bird....? Yellow? > No - dark red, almost gore-like. It was no flying tomatoe, but a killer machine. Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:42:55 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Going Metric Message-ID: <20020105184255.A6E0634304@login-3.eunet.no> Hei, The Norwegian built Sopwith Babys were made according to metric drawings, I can not believe the British originals were in anything but inches and feet. Does someone on the list know which countries that were metric during WW1, or to be more specific: producing aircraft according to metric drawings? Seem like both the Farman and Hansa Brandenburg W.33 drawings from WW1 that I have copied were metric, I don`t think they made special sets for use by the Norwegians. Are US aircraft metric by now, I had an US visitor who came to Norway to measure aLoening amphibium, he used a tape measure in feet/inches, and it made sense since it had definitely been built in such. For me the introduction of the Euro means that I don`t need all sorts of EU money available when I have a brief stop-over on my way home, just have to try to get rid of the notes I have from various countries next time I get to visit one of the countries in the EU zone. Will also be interesting to see if it will be accepted outside of Europe, French Francs have been used in a number of former colonies. Eders Knut Erik PS The British Engineers Society once stated that they would make sure that Britain went metric inch by inch.... DS >In point of fact this accident happend because one team was using the >ft-lb-s system whilest another team was using metric. Working in both >systems is just asking for trouble. It was a total failure of managment >that wasted hundreds of millions of dollars - taxpayer money. If the US is >ever to "go metric" it needs to do it like the Europeans have done the Euro. >January 1 and it is here to stay. Ther American public should realize it is >in its own best economic interest to do this and should quit whinning and >get on with it. > >Sorry for the ot rant. This is a real pet peeve. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:42:57 +0100 (CET) From: knut.erik.hagen@login-3.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Books on flying early aircraft, construction, etc Message-ID: <20020105184257.AE66534321@login-3.eunet.no> Hei, Another soure is in "Jane`s historical aircraft from 1902 to 1916", it was recently reprinted and can be found in bargain bookstores. ISBN 0-385 01314-0 There is a dictionary at the end with some great explainations: "Crash - A slang phrase for the disintegration of an aircraft by contact with some body of greater strength" Other explainations are more useful as those words are no longer in use. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:50:43 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: > > BTW and totally ot (unless someone knows better) the Mongols used > heavy silk > shirts instead of armour because an arrow head would, due to it's spin and > the toughness of the silk not penetrate very deeply and could be wound out > of the wound(?) with *minimal* damage to the victim...doubt it > would do that > with a .303 round though. Well, albeit the "ot cops" would rather disagree to me I would like to say that one of the things that make this list so interesting to me is that one learns not just about modeling here, but also about many other interesting topics. Thanks for the additional info, Fraser. Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:56:32 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: decals Message-ID: Even the >Brits accept Euros, except but for the old hag on their throne who refuses >to progress. > I say, old chap, that's a bit strong!... > > > > > > > > > but true, of course. Vive le Republic! N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:05:45 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Silky Dr1 at Jasta Boelcke Message-ID: <020c01c1961b$fafaac20$63ad72d4@FRITZweb> Give us a help, Gaston. Aircraft section? News? Where did you hide it? Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaston Graf" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: [WWI] Silky Dr1 at Jasta Boelcke > Friends, > > I just scanned and uploaded two pics of the Dr.1 for you. At one picture, > the inverted "V" is clearly visible. I scanned the page from my book but did > not edit the pictures - they are provided as is. The size of the file is > 79kb. Note the other scratches at the root of the middle wing as well as at > the cowling. > > happy modeling > > Gaston > www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 20:15:44 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: decals Message-ID: <021201c1961d$5fa8cac0$63ad72d4@FRITZweb> Vive le Republic! says Nigel. Vive la Republic de Luxembourg...? H. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:24:25 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Wings in the Night - Flying the Caproni Bomber Message-ID: <000b01c1961e$96d96760$873dfad1@dwfjv01> IIRC, Bettery Press of Nashville, TN, who do quite a great many reprints, did some reprints of WWI USAS squadron unit histories. I am not sure if this is one of them or not. If anyone is interested, I'll try and find their address/phone number, etc. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 19:24:32 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: decals Message-ID: <3C3752F0.726497DD@dial.pipex.com> Gaston Graf wrote: > Even the Brits accept Euros, except but for the old hag on their throne who > refuses > to progress. > Hey ! Since when did this become throw gratuitous insults about heads of state list ? Apart from the fact that the Queen has nothing to do with whether or not the UK becomes part of the Euroland fantasy, I don't hear anyone throwing insults at your Govt or leaders. Let's get back to modelling WW1 talk please. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 13:50:43 -0600 From: "Rick Milas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Jacob decals Message-ID: Hi Bob, I don't know if anyone else has expressed an interest in this, but I would be interested in a Josef Jacobs decal sheet containing the Kobes and star for the DII, the white diagonal stripes for the DV and the devil head for the Fokker DVII. Not sure how much this would cost however. Rick Milas >From: "Bob Pearson" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] decals >Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:45:42 -0500 (EST) > >Hi all, > >I feel inspired right now, so I am wondering would people rather choose >individual markings or buy sets of a theme .. ie USAS squadron insignias, >Jasta 15 etc etc ... > >Regards, > Bob _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:53:54 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Manfred,s silk things Message-ID: <008301c19622$b570af40$873dfad1@dwfjv01> and the absence > of the wing stacking bumps. I've been meaning to ask ya'll about this stacking bump thingee. What are they? Why are they there? I actually got to work on my Fokker F.1 last night, and got to use MisterKit paints for the first time. I love this paint! You know what? I showed it to SWMBO and said "Isn't this color great!?" whereupon she replied that yes it was, and that she wanted a room painted that color. What a woman I've got, she wants a room of Fokker turquoise! I wonder if she'll go for a bedroom in five color French? I was looking forward to using my new airbrush and compressor for this model, but the lows at night in the teens and the highs in the 20's have precluded my enthusiasm for getting out in the shop and making a painting area. I'm sure the cold would affect how the paint goes on anyway. For a "kitchen table" kit, this Fokker ain't turnin' out half bad. I got the 1/72nd scale Nieuport from Steve Perry the other day. Now all I have to do is get my set of instructions of how to correct it from my Sensei, M. Bittner, and the "Nieuport Challenge, 2002" will be underway. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:55:27 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: RE: WWI digest 4034 Message-ID: <008b01c19622$ecddd520$873dfad1@dwfjv01> > It may be boring, but what I need most are lift here logos, strut stencils, > prop logos, manufacturers badges etc etc for central powers and allied in > 1/72 and 1/48. Oh and some Palmer Cord Aero Tyre (or whatever it was > exactly) as well. That would be guaranteed to get the greenbacks flying out > of my wallet. Me too. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:34:49 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Inside Eduard ( german text only, sorry) Message-ID: <030501c19628$6bd71300$63ad72d4@FRITZweb> Hi, listees! http://www.model-news.com/projekt/eduard/edu.htm takes a look inside Eduard! German text only, but photos are self-explanatory! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:04:31 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: gliding Mouse Message-ID: Friends, this is definetly ot so I beg the "ot busters" to forgive me, but like anybody is forced to make use of a computer to access the list I thought you might be interested into this: In case you are stil using an oldfashion ball mouse, it is equipped with at least 2-4 gliding pads on its underside that make gliding over your mousepad easy. Unfortunately, the self adhesive gliding pads wear off after a while, or they just won't stick on the mouse anymore. Without the gliding pads, the mouse is still useable, but does not perform as well as with gliding pads. I never found some spare pads to buy but today I found a solution that works nicely. I noticed the silky and smooth surface of 3M Scotch Tape so I cut little pieces of about half an inch (10-12mm) and put one onto the other, building up a layer of 6. I then carefully cut the sawtooth ends off and cut the 6 layer piece of Scotch tape into 4 little pieces that I was sticking onto the undersurface of my Logitech cordless wheelmouse where the original gliding pads was attached at. I was amazed to see how well my mouse performs again. Befor that, it did not glide well because the rubber switch on its underside (used to switch channels) acted as a brake. Now, that the switch is raised from the mousepad, gliding is a real joy again. btw: I know there are the new optical mice that don't need balls nor a mousepad. But as a gamer I prefer an oldfashion ball mouse because it is by far more precise than the latest optical mouse is. For playing 3D action shooters, the optical mice are not suited. I still have a cordless MS Intellimouse Explorer for sale, in case somebody is interested. It is brandnew in its orginal box. It was installed only once and was used for less than one hour until I switched back to my good old Logitech mouse again. happy gliding Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4037 **********************