WWI Digest 4022 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Crazy Collections by Shane Weier 2) Re: Peter Pan in 1918 by "ibs4421" 3) Re: Ross's Golden Egg was [Re: Happy New Year by "Ross Moorhouse" 4) Re: Flashback? by Shane Weier 5) Re:Happy New Year! by "John Impenna" 6) Re: APC decals by Todd Hayes 7) Re: Flashback? by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 8) RE: Goering's Pimpmobile by "Dave Burke" 9) Re: Resolutions by "Dave Burke" 10) Return of EtH by "Dave Burke" 11) Lone Star Models 1/48 Sablatnig SF2/5 Is Available by Todd Hayes 12) Re: Flashback? by Steve Cox 13) Re: Flashback? by Steve Cox 14) Re: Flashback? by "Michael Kendix" 15) Re: Scratchbuilds, was Happy New Year by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 16) PS.7 Update by "Steven Perry" 17) Re: Hello Steve Perry by "Steven Perry" 18) Re: PS.7 Update by "Ross Moorhouse" 19) Re: PS.7 Update.. Silly question for SP .. by "Ross Moorhouse" 20) Re: PS.7 Update.. Silly question for SP .. by "Steven Perry" 21) Re: Hippel DVa "blitz" scheme question by Mark Miller 22) Fokker fueltank colors. by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 23) Re: Hippel DVa "blitz" scheme question by Mark Miller 24) Feturbi! by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 25) Re: Hippel DVa "blitz" scheme question by Shane Weier 26) RE: Feturbi! by Shane Weier 27) Re: PS.7 Update.. Silly question for SP .. by "Ross Moorhouse" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:41:12 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Crazy Collections Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD981@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt, > All of you are thinking too small. :-) > > How about at least one machine from each and every Escadrille? Think > that's a crazy collection? Hell yes. They'd all be *French* Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:53:17 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Peter Pan in 1918 Message-ID: <003301c19306$57ac96e0$973dfad1@dwfjv01> Ken said: "As kid you simply don't care" Ken and All, This was brought home to me last night as I helped my son with his first ever model. He simply doesn't care, he only cares about enjoying the kit and the building of it. If it makes him happy, that's fine with him. I was wise, for once, not to open my mouth and say somehting when he wanted todo something that went against "my grain". I think kids automatically come equipped with Dicta Ira. The rest of us lose it somewhere along the way. As to contests, I guess with me it is a moot point. The closest to me would be Lousiville, KY or two hours east of Nashville, TN. Maybe one day I'll venture over to one or the other and check out the scene. Hey! Maybe I'll find some OT friends for the list! Warren nb: Fokker F.1 nu: Sop. 1 1/2 Strutter or Nie. 17 np: "Whiter Shade of Pale" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 07:56:06 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Ross's Golden Egg was [Re: Happy New Year Message-ID: <004a01c19306$bd4e59c0$a20dcecb@umber> Cam, I don't know if you have visited Fighter Town Museum at Willimatown Airbase? There is a collect over well over 200 1/72nd scale models there. They have all been scratchbuilt from wood. If I remember correctly the display traces the history of flight. All the models have been made by the same person. :-) So it can be done. But I doubt I could do it.. Its nice to dream though.... 297 different types.. Is that all.. ???? ;-) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "cameron rile" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 2:49 AM Subject: [WWI] Ross's Golden Egg was [Re: Happy New Year | Ross, | | >Nor the idea I have of building one of | >every type of plane that the AFC/RAAF | >flew from the start to today.. ;-) | | 297 different aircraft by my count. You're | going to be a busy lad for a couple of decades | to come. | | | | cam | www.australianflyingcorps.org | | | | ______________________________________________________________ | Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 07:05:16 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD983@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Peter says: > There have been some very strange decisions at the Nats in > recent years. Maybe due to the usual chronic shortage of judges? > Perhaps some will recall a recent winner had been the subject > of an article > in one of the sponsors magazines showing how it was built > from sheet metal > over a wooden frame. It was a superb model, but not a PLASTIC > model. Don't know about the current status, but it must be over 20 years since I first read of IPMS(UK) considering changing its name to Int'l PRECISION Modelling Soc. because of the rise in use of white metal parts, metal kits, brass etch and so forth. Some loosening of the rules was done instead. In practice in our shows here, now, the models no longer need to be plastic, merely *Static* scale models, and that's what the rules say. > have been occasions when a cleanly built but not particularly > outstanding OOB > kit has won it's class while a well executed scratch build in > the same class > is not even commended. While I'd be peeved if it was my scratchbuilt model, that's okay by me with the following caveat - that the finished model which won looks better than mine - ie, better in construction and finish. How much work was involved in getting to the result *isn't* and *can't* be judged, because of the impossibility of grading the base kits (or scractch subjects) on the basis of difficulty, so along with accuracy it doesn't get judged (or isn't supposed to!) > You will understand that I am somewhat cynical (yes, > even more than usual) about the standard of judging at these > events and far less enthusiastic about competing than I used to be. I *can* understand that. In the days before our current annual show began, the predecessor had a different, closed, method of judging. However fair the judging was, no-one knew what was done or on what basis, and inevitably accusations of bias and incompetence flew which might well have been accurate. When we started the new show our "Prime Directive" for judging was "Transparency" and every decision made is made in the understanding that justice has to be seen to be done. It works for us, but then IPMS (UK) has 10 times as many models to judge in a day Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 16:27:47 -0500 From: "John Impenna" To: Subject: Re:Happy New Year! Message-ID: <001401c1930b$28b728a0$6a593ad0@cable.rcn.com> Hi All, Happy New year to all!!!! I am on vacation this week and one of the first things I am doing this year and for the next couple of days, is OT modeling!!!!! So, enough time playing on this computer, I'm headed to the workroom!!!!! A Healthy, Happy and Safe New Year to you all and to all of your families!!!!!! Regards, John Impenna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:11:28 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: APC decals Message-ID: <20020101221128.36127.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Rory, It has a black bird, possibly an eagle or hawk, on the fuselage sides. Todd --- Rory Goodwin wrote: > Any fuselage art/markings on this one? > > Matt Bittner wrote: > > > It's for one specific example, of an IRAS machine > that (I think) > > eventually became a Czech machine (no.3598). > These are ALPS generated and > > are superb. Highly > > recommended, and they even come in Balloon for you > 1/48th builders. ;-) > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:12:16 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: <10c.aa31dab.29638e40@aol.com> In a message dated 01/01/02 20:32:36 GMT Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << .....chuck him out into the cold - if we had any! >> Plenty to spare here mate. Two or three inches of the white stuff on the roof of my car. Send me your snail mail and I'll forward a few shovels full ;) cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 16:37:54 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: RE: Goering's Pimpmobile Message-ID: <00bc01c19314$f7b5cb80$09f91c3f@s0024008072> I did this one - think pics are on the site. I did the mods to it too. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 16:42:37 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: Resolutions Message-ID: <01c001c19315$9d53ddc0$09f91c3f@s0024008072> My resolution? To unsub before I go out of town again!!!! DB (sorting thru 300+ messages...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 16:44:04 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Return of EtH Message-ID: <01cb01c19315$d162e480$09f91c3f@s0024008072> I case Y'all missed it.... EtH is back online at reason108@hotmail.com . Give him a holler an' show him you care. Or don't. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:37:48 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Lone Star Models 1/48 Sablatnig SF2/5 Is Available Message-ID: <20020101223748.86161.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi List, Mike West of Lone Star e-mailed me that the Sablatnig kit is now available. He gives the price as $55 incl. shipping. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 22:55:15 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: > Nevertheless, it placed first in 1/72nd scale Allied biplanes out > of more than 20 entries. That's pretty good for a monoplane Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Michael Kendix" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:04:27 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Flashback? > >> From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com >> I'm afraid he speaks the truth brother Shane. If you're not up to >> "pre-shading" and all the latest tricks don't enter a competition and >>> expect to win. Of course "expect to win" are the operative words here. > > Peter: > > I do not understand the UK IPMS judging - that's not a criticism, merely my > ignorance. But this is not the case at the US IPMS. Please see: > > http://www.internetmodeler.com/2000/may2000/aviation/mos_ai.htm > > There is no pre-shading of panel lines (OK, it's WW1)but there is no fancy > weathering either. Also, note the builder/author admits to using the wrong > "Brown". > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 23:02:57 +0000 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: I agree with Peter here, the Nats is much much more than the competition. I go to show off my models on the club stand, spend lots of money, and hunt for bargains, oh and to meet and see the others models. I do look at the competition tables, but not too hard or I get depressed. regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html http://www.bramptonscalemodelclub.fsnet.co.uk If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 15:20:39 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Flashback? > > In a message dated 01/01/02 19:48:36 GMT Standard Time, > nigelch@cheffers.co.uk writes: > > << http://home.clara.net/neilscrim/Speakers_Corner/speakers_corner.html >> > > Thanks for that link Nigel. I am bound to say he speaks a lot of sense > because I am in broad agreement with what he says, certainly with regard to > the standard of judging. > But the author also suggests that the Nats should be more like the Model > Engineer Exhibition and the rules changed accordingly. No. The Model Engineer > Exhibition is there for anyone who wishes to enter. The IPMS nats are for a > different kind of modeler and should remain so.As I hope I hinted at this in > my earlier submission, I would want to resist any tendency for the > competition to become the reason for the Nats. It is desperately important to > the participants and those with a compulsive desire to organize things > (whoever thinks there is such a thing as an organized modeler hasn't been in > my loft) , but doesn't matter a hill of beans to a significant number of > those attending. I do enter the competitions, but the main attractions for me > are meeting my fellow anoraks and the trade stands. > > > It is comforting to know that others may feel the same as I and that I am > not just a miserable old codger dribbling into his beard, although I may be > that too ;) > > cheers > > Peter L > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 23:11:09 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: >From: Steve Cox > > > Nevertheless, it placed first in 1/72nd scale Allied biplanes out > > of more than 20 entries. > >That's pretty good for a monoplane Steve: Right, sorry, the full category title is "Biplanes (and others that are predominantly fabric, struts, and rigging)" which includes Fokker E.I through V's an such like. Sad to hear about the UK IPMS. Seems like they need to publish a competition handbook and get more organized if they want more folks to regard the competition as legitimate. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 19:16:58 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Scratchbuilds, was Happy New Year Message-ID: In a message dated Tue, 1 Jan 2002 2:51:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, Shane Weier writes: > Mike, > > > Just what are your ongoing scratchbuilds, Shane? > > You, old man, are a cruel bastard. Ouch! I seemed to have touched a sore spot there. Sort of like pouring salt in an open wound. > The other is a Caproni Ca.3 started right after I finished my Biff, whenever the heck that was. > I intended to try scratching the Caproni Ca.3, accumulating plans,the engine manual and German and Italian dictionaries to translate them, but got hung up on the lack of cross-section data for the main and engine nacelles. I am completely devoid of any artistic talent in making compound curved surfaces on my own. So I bought the AJP Maquettes brass kit and have done no more than open it to look at it, getting the feeling I'm definitely in it over my head. It makes Profipack PE look tame. I bought some micro-soldering equipment and my latest reason for not starting it is that I'm waiting for Tom Morgan's treatise on micro-soldering. ARE YOU THERE, TOM? I'm doing better on the Avro Triplane. Being mostly wood, I figure I can finish it in about three years. . . probably optimistic, I know. ;>) Regards, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:32:03 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: PS.7 Update Message-ID: <004401c19324$e6c59a20$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/ps7.htm I have added another section to my Paul-Schmidt scratchbuild. I didn't like the results I got with decal strip or heat stretched strips to do the rib tapes, so I went and did a set of St. Harry wings with much better results. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:45:26 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Hello Steve Perry Message-ID: <006a01c19326$c5673440$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Have 2 on my stack and this article is a thoroughly enjoyable read from > 'cover to cover'! > > What-a-treat. > > Thank you, Steve. Thanks Ken. It was a fun project and I'm glad it was of use to someone. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:56:15 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: PS.7 Update Message-ID: <007301c19328$4a639660$a70ececb@umber> Thanks for the update SP.. :-) May try your method of wing making as well as Volkers. Cheers mate Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: [WWI] PS.7 Update | http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/ps7.htm | I have added another section to my Paul-Schmidt scratchbuild. | | I didn't like the results I got with decal strip or heat stretched strips to | do the rib tapes, so I went and did a set of St. Harry wings with much | better results. | | sp | | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:07:24 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: PS.7 Update.. Silly question for SP .. Message-ID: <008601c19329$d96e20e0$a70ececb@umber> Steven, What did you do for the undersurfaces of the wings?? Or did I miss that in reading your site. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: [WWI] PS.7 Update | http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/ps7.htm | I have added another section to my Paul-Schmidt scratchbuild. | | I didn't like the results I got with decal strip or heat stretched strips to | do the rib tapes, so I went and did a set of St. Harry wings with much | better results. | | sp | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:24:41 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: PS.7 Update.. Silly question for SP .. Message-ID: <007f01c1932c$40d305a0$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > > What did you do for the undersurfaces of the wings?? Or did I miss that in > reading your site. Ross I could have been clearer here. I'll have to edit the text. The card laid out on the drawing is both the upper and lower skin. The embossed centerline is where it folds arounf the leading edge. So the ribs are on the top and the bottom. If you want to get super fancy and dependingg on the design of the wing you are doing, you could emboss the ribs on the top surface harder making them more pronounced than the ones on the lower surface. Just start at the centerline and scribe toward the TE, one side harder than the other. HTH sp ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 2002 17:25:00 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hippel DVa "blitz" scheme question Message-ID: <20020102012500.23091.cpmta@c016.snv.cp.net> On Tue, 01 January 2002, "Hans Trauner" wrote: > > So it is, Mark. > I guess the Color Profiles of WWI is of italian origin by ' Coordinatore Guiseppe Dicorato' and shows good quality paintings in large scale plus simpler ( 'unshadowed') smaller coloured drawings. The Blitz Albatros there is shown with loz uppersurfaces and pale blue undersurfaces. I wonder where they got their wisdom from. I got mine from the good old Profile on the D. V. On page 10 there is a lozenge Blitz resting on his nose and page 5 shows a intact mauve/green Blitz plus a snow landing of the (same?) machine, also resting on the nose. Give me a 'yes' > off-line and I'll sent scans of both pages. > > Hans Hans Yes - the Italian (originaly) book you mention is the same one I'm looking at. As much as i love this book I still tend to question it's accuracy simply because it is so old. But, the Hippel renderings go as far as showing the bottom side of the starboard airleron as being lozenge covered while the rest of the wing and the other airleron is light blue. When I see information this specific I tend to think they had a pretty good source. Does your photo show this odd airleron setup. If so, it's a pretty good bet that is also where they got it from. Just a guess though However, I heard back from Greg VanWyngarden over at the Aerodrome forum and he informed me that current opinion is that the arrow was black. It's realy to bad - I did a prelim rendering of it in red and it looks pretty sharp. It doesn't realy matter though, I had to redo the map anyway because some of my curves were off. In any case. If it's not to much trouble I would like to see the images you refer to. Thanks Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 02:47:13 +0100 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: Fokker fueltank colors. Message-ID: <001301c1932f$73d1cd80$ea8dfea9@kristjar> Does anybody have an idea what the color of a Fokker Eindeckers fuel tank might have been??? I read somewhere fuel tanks of these early aircraft were made of Brass would they have been over painted? Cheers KR ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 2002 19:25:15 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hippel DVa "blitz" scheme question Message-ID: <20020102032515.9817.cpmta@c016.snv.cp.net> On Tue, 01 January 2002, Mark Miller wrote: "However, I heard back from Greg VanWyngarden over at the Aerodrome forum and he informed me that current opinion is that the arrow was black. " I don't know if anybody is concerned about this arrow question. But if you were just about to mask that red arrow out and spray it black.... you might want to hold off a bit. As Hans said already - there seems to be some conflicting opinions. Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:40:51 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Feturbi! Message-ID: Shane? Feturbi - FE2b? Quirk? ? What about Big Ack and Little Ack? Do they feel left out? and does operational use define inclusion? I like these sort of projects, - when I first returned to the hobby, I thought I could set a goal to build every OT type modelled in 48 or 72. Now I know this to be close to impossible - so now I just model what takes me. (except for an ot flying boat awaiting me some time this year) All the Best Neil E. (Still waiting for some interstate bait to be dangled) _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. 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"Blitz" motif black with white outline. Fuselage light grey. von Hippel flew another identically marked D.Va but with wings covered with lozenge pattern printed fabric." The accompanying photo is "Courtesy of H.J.von Hippel" and is signed in lower right by him. > It's realy to bad - I did a prelim rendering of it in red and > it looks pretty sharp. I have a sneaking suspicion that the red rendition with silver fuselage has been propagated by the owner of a 1:1 replica painted in that fashion, and not by any of the more reputable researchers - though I'd welcome evidence to the contrary. There's certainly photos of a replica so painted and it looks just ducky - every Hollywood producers idea of an aces aeroplane. Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:51:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Feturbi! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD987@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil, > Feturbi - FE2b? Fetubi, but Yes. > Quirk? ? BE's > What about Big Ack and Little Ack? Simple scratchbuilding shapes. Forgot them specifically but I covered them with the words "not too much other work" > Do they feel > left out? and does operational use define inclusion? Yes. You could spend many lifetimes if you included all prototypes. Incidentally, I didn't include Strutters either, but I have one of them in my to-do garage too. > I like these sort of > projects, - when I first returned to the hobby, I thought I > could set a > goal to build every OT type modelled in 48 or 72. Yeah, pretty well impossible, except by Dennis the Uggiebelievable. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. For general enquires: ++61 7 3833 8000 Support Centre e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au Support Centre phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:51:21 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: PS.7 Update.. Silly question for SP .. Message-ID: <004f01c19340$bf199780$3b482dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Thanks for that SP... ;-) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: PS.7 Update.. Silly question for SP .. | > | > What did you do for the undersurfaces of the wings?? Or did I miss that in | > reading your site. | | Ross | | I could have been clearer here. I'll have to edit the text. | | The card laid out on the drawing is both the upper and lower skin. The | embossed centerline is where it folds arounf the leading edge. So the ribs | are on the top and the bottom. If you want to get super fancy and dependingg | on the design of the wing you are doing, you could emboss the ribs on the | top surface harder making them more pronounced than the ones on the lower | surface. Just start at the centerline and scribe toward the TE, one side | harder than the other. | | HTH | sp | | ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4022 **********************