WWI Digest 4017 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Speaking of sneezing... by "Lance Krieg" 2) Re: Astonishing site found by "Hans Trauner" 3) Re: Speaking of sneezing.../again by "Tom Plesha" 4) Re: Speaking of sneezing... by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 5) RE: MisterKit PC10 by "Nigel Rayner" 6) Re: Astonishing site found by KnnthS@aol.com 7) Re: Flashback? by "ibs4421" 8) MoS Type AI and Rheinbeck by tbittners@sprintmail.com 9) Re: Speaking of sneezing... by "ot811" 10) Re: Astonishing site found by "Lee M." 11) RE: Astonishing site found by "Gaston Graf" 12) Re: Ni 27 - cockpit by "Steven Perry" 13) Re: Flashback? by "ibs4421" 14) Re: Indigo got up and Derwent by KnnthS@aol.com 15) RE: Astonishing site found by KnnthS@aol.com 16) happy new year by "Liefferinckx Frederic" 17) Re: Gullible or easily led ? by "Muth and Zulick" 18) New Year's resolutions by "Harris, Mack" 19) Rheinbeck MoS AI again by tbittners@sprintmail.com 20) Re: New Year by tbittners@sprintmail.com 21) Additional Fok.E.III Cockpit photos by "Tom Plesha" 22) Re: Indigo got up and Derwent by "ibs4421" 23) Re: New Year's resolutions by "ibs4421" 24) Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! by "Muth and Zulick" 25) Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! by "ibs4421" 26) Re: Speaking of sneezing... by "Muth and Zulick" 27) Re: What Santa brought by "Muth and Zulick" 28) Rhinebeck by "Muth and Zulick" 29) Re: New Year's resolutions by "Brian Nicklas" 30) Re: Rhinebeck by tbittners@sprintmail.com 31) Seasonal Greetings! by "Brian Nicklas" 32) How about Fok.E.I Cockpit photos Was -> Re: Additional Fok.E.III Cockpit photos by Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) 33) Re: How about Fok.E.I Cockpit photos Was -> Additional Fok.E.III Cockpit photos by tbittners@sprintmail.com 34) Re: Flashback? by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:06:45 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Speaking of sneezing... Message-ID: My wife takes me to task because I invariably follow up a sneeze with an expletive. I am unreasonably angry whenever I do sneeze; she thinks I'm a jerk. It occurs to me that I hate sneezing because I have spent years bent over tiny parts that need no help to disappear forever. As I feel a sneeze coming on, with both hands full of delicate tools and peering through a lens, I have no option but to try to avert my face and sneeze harmlessly all over my arm. The involuntary contractions the accompany this usually disturb something, not least my peace of mind. So am I nuts, or do more of you feel the same way? Also, how many hours are lost on ones knees, grid-searching the floor for that unique piece that flew off the tweezer? Why don't the parts you have in duplicate ever disappear? Just whiling away another productive day at work... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:17:31 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Astonishing site found Message-ID: <00aa01c19216$a5e700c0$fda172d4@FRITZweb> Ooops? I must confess I use IE5 and I did not have any problems..? H. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:47 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Astonishing site found > > In a message dated 31/12/01 7:39:09 am, hans.trauner@nefkom.net writes: > > << www.flugbeobachter.de/ >> > > it locked up my browser---what's that about...what'd I miss? > > ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:23:08 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Speaking of sneezing.../again Message-ID: <000501c19217$6f03aee0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Lance- I don't get taken to task for the expletives, but my wife knows when things are not going well and just how serious, by the type of expletive! As far as parts lost- I have the law that says " Murphey is optomistic", along with: the more delicate-difficult-etc. a part is, the greater chance that it will vanish to the carpet monster or to parts limbo. You are not alone with the exciting segements of building. Later Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Krieg" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: [WWI] Speaking of sneezing... > My wife takes me to task because I invariably follow up a sneeze with an expletive. > I am unreasonably angry whenever I do sneeze; she thinks I'm a jerk. > > It occurs to me that I hate sneezing because I have spent years bent over tiny parts that need no help to disappear forever. > As I feel a sneeze coming on, with both hands full of delicate tools and peering through a lens, > I have no option but to try to avert my face and sneeze harmlessly all over my arm. > > The involuntary contractions the accompany this usually disturb something, not least my peace of mind. > > So am I nuts, or do more of you feel the same way? > > Also, how many hours are lost on ones knees, grid-searching the floor for that unique piece that flew off the tweezer? > Why don't the parts you have in duplicate ever disappear? > > Just whiling away another productive day at work... > > Lance > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:23:37 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Speaking of sneezing... Message-ID: In a message dated Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:09:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Lance Krieg" writes: > So am I nuts, or do more of you feel the same way? I feel the same way, Lance. I use our fourth bedroom which was carpeted, for modeling. I removed the carpet and installed floor tiles just so I could either sweep with a broom or use a vacuum cleaner with a clean bag to find lost parts. > Why don't the parts you have in duplicate ever disappear? Dunno, maybe some universal law that hasn't been discovered yet or a humorous (to them) quirk of the modeling gods. Mike Kavanaugh > > Just whiling away another productive day at work... > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:38:53 -0000 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: MisterKit PC10 Message-ID: <000001c19219$a22ed360$983bedc1@w1o0t3> James wrote > I tried the Misterkit PC10 > last night for the first time, applied by brush over a white undercoat and > was VERYdisappointed with the coverage. The CDL and grey colours went down > very nicely but I think the PC10 would still look streaky after 4-5 coats. > I guess a grey primer would have been advisable, James, working with acrylics of any kind which tend to cover less than enamels you will need to think about the impact of the undercoat. White will be perfect for white or CDL, which will cover in one coat, possibly two for a nice even finish. However, on darker colours (like PC10 or black) or transparent colours (like yellow), a white undercoat will show through and you will need loads of coats to get even coverage. Thus the undercoat needs to be "sympathtic" to the MK paint you are laying down as the topcoat. So for PC10, if you undercoat with a dark green/brown (such as Humbrol 155), you will get good coverage with one coat, perfect with two. The undercoat does not have to be completely even (it's difficult to get a completely even finish with dark Humbrol colours on light plastic in one coat with a brush), any patchiness and brush strokes will be covered by the MK topcoat. As long as there are no major areas of light coloured plastic, you will be fine. It sounds a bit of a drag but it's not really. The only time it's a pain is when you have little details like the PC10 wrap around on the underside of Brit planes. BTW, it also depends on the colour of the plastic of the kit. I am just finishing the MAC Phonix DI which is a beigey-brown, I used MK Austrian CDL and Phonix Medium Brown with no undercoat. The CDL needed three coats, the medium brown two for complete coverage. You could try an overall grey undercoat, I haven't tried that. I suspect that will reduce the number of coats of darke colours but increase the coats of light ones. >and probably an airbrush also. Ecch no. Can't understand why anyone would ever want to mess with those complex, smelly, dangerous things unless they *have* to do that mottled stuff for WWII ME wotsits and tanks. I have such limited time and space for modelling, I would get nothing done if I had to frig around with an airbrush. It's obviously personal preference, but remember real men (and Dames) don't use airbrushes :-) Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:35:25 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Astonishing site found Message-ID: Hans writes: << I use IE5 >> Me too, but my German *really* doesn't work..... ; ) Thanks Hans, tried a second time and wandered all about the place. Good stuff. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:41:52 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: <001701c1921a$0dbbc8e0$9d3dfad1@dwfjv01> My Clerget needs to go into the > Oven Cleaner but I'm scared the scratchbuilt pushrods will fall off (all > the detail is disappearing under the second painting attempt ;) N., You may wish to try brake fluid as an alternative paint remover, as well as 90%+ isopropyl alcohol. That is what my model railroading freinds use to strip the factory paint off of diesel shells. Oven cleaner is nasty stuff! Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:48:32 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: MoS Type AI and Rheinbeck Message-ID: <20011231164832.7BF1346800@eclipse.qis.net> --Message-Boundary Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit On the Aerodrome, someone posted an image of an "original" Morane-Saulnier Type AI that Rheinbeck currently has. It appears from this image that it is the *Type 27C.1*, the single gun machine that Shaeffer flew (which every single model company has gotten wrong so far). Is there any list member(s) that lives close to Rheinbeck that can take more pictures of their MoS Type AI, especially in the area where the gun is? I really would like to see what the forward fuselage looked like under the gun, and how the gun was attached and its ammo feeding/discharging mechanism. TIA! Matt Bittner --Message-Boundary Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: attachment; filename="" --Message-Boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:13:52 -0500 From: "ot811" To: Subject: Re: Speaking of sneezing... Message-ID: <015701c1921e$860e68d0$6401a8c0@delos> Lance, I dont sneeze at the workbench. Period. If I feel one coming on, I drop whatever I am doing and run away from the bench. About duplicate small parts, the amount of time I spend searching for a duplicate part is directly proportional to the number of spares that I have. Simply because, being the pragmatist I am, I know that if I slack off on one piece, those nasty little *^&%$ critters will take full advantage of my weakness, and disappear in droves. So might as well stand firm in the first place. I am sure Clausewitz or Sun Tzu had a chapter on this subject. "Aber, ist es natuerlich, wie die Pe-volker, das Lebensraum zu suchen" -- Bismarck (probably). regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:21:02 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Astonishing site found Message-ID: <3C309E7E.45090A07@x25.net> I used Netscape 4.7 and it connected in less then 8 seconds. No hang up or problems. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx Hans Trauner wrote: > Listees, > I have just found http://www.flugbeobachter.de/ which shows the war diary of > a Franz Xaver Brandl, including some unseen pics! German text only, but most > links are self-explanatory ( I hope). > > Hans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:21:33 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Astonishing site found Message-ID: Very VERY interesting site - its worth to take some Germans lessons for, just for the case you don't speak the language folks. I'll place a link indeed. Oh and it did not lock up my puter, like somebody else had mentionned. Danke Hans - einen guten Rutsch und allzeit Hals- und Beinbruch ;o) Gaston www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Hans > Trauner > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Astonishing site found > > > Listees, > I have just found http://www.flugbeobachter.de/ which shows the > war diary of > a Franz Xaver Brandl, including some unseen pics! German text > only, but most > links are self-explanatory ( I hope). > > Hans > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:26:55 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Ni 27 - cockpit Message-ID: <003901c19220$586f9140$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Since the cushions on the seat could be easily modified by the pilot, > these might not be standard I imagine with heavy doses of castor oil vapor and +Gs on the ole sitdown, cushions were highly customized and quite personal. Not something the well bred European Gentlemen of the day wrote about, so we don't think much of it, but I'd say it was a fair bet they all found something more comfortable than what came from the factory. Just passing comment rather than doing chores sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:26:08 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: <006f01c19220$3c85e060$9d3dfad1@dwfjv01> > Just my five cents (au) on the scale colour debate of recent days I too have refrained from commenting upon this, but since everybody else has, I'll throw in my two cents (CS) on this. I used to take chips off of armored vehicles I was assigned to, and a fellow NCO in my platoon who was an armor modeler and I would go off and compare them to paints, etc. There definately seems to be a difference, although I too believe that an exact scientific formula or expanation will not cut it for explaining how to achieve it every time. IMHO it is a matter of taste and interpretation at the time. I have spent far too many hours in the past comparing 100+ year old uniforms and textiles against modern reproductions, and came to the conclusion with museum friends that color interpretation such as this is greatly affected by such things as time of day, lighting, diet, etc. Some friends of mine looked at seven original US sack coats from the Civil War era, all blue, but everyone a different shade of blue. There was simply no way to come to any solid conclusion. In the end it was far easier to say what something WASN'T than what it WAS. I think the current pop-culture surrounding the scale paint thing can be applied more readily to World War of the Second Part a/c and vehicles and onward than it can to WW of the First Part. This is one reason, amongst many, that I have never had any great, burning desire to build a model and enter it in a contest. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:44:19 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Indigo got up and Derwent Message-ID: <3c.16f66851.2961fdf3@aol.com> Warren: << everyone a different shade of blue. There was simply no way to come to any solid conclusion. In the end it was far easier to say what something WASN'T than what it WAS. >> Federal Standards ain't exactly standard.....or any else, when it comes to color. Witness any home paint manufacturer and the difference between coded lots... "...what something *wasn't* than what it *was*" I like that. Ken ps-noticed you absolutely refrained from including 'butternut homespuns' in your study....now there's a standard! ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:46:14 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Astonishing site found Message-ID: <178.192d264.2961fe66@aol.com> Gaston and Lee writes: << did not lock up my puter, like somebody else had mentionned. >> musta been sumthin I et Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:53:52 +0100 From: "Liefferinckx Frederic" To: Subject: happy new year Message-ID: <002101c19224$1c8a7b00$1d85043e@d6o1v9> i wish to all listee an Happy new year from belgium. fred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:55:12 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Gullible or easily led ? Message-ID: <000801c19224$4bb7cfe0$0100005a@ptd.net> If I remember correctly, there was a "handle" like object near the cockpit that made it easier for him to climb in due to his (hip?) injury. Maybe there were other modiifications, but I remember seeing this one somewhere, although I"m not sure if it was on the white one. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Mollica" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday,December 29,2001 6:34 AM Subject: [WWI] Gullible or easily led ? > A week or two back, someone posted a link to Goering's white DVII on > Hyperscale. Then you started talking about DML's DVII, of which I have a > couple, parts removed from sprue, ready to build. Now I've gone and dug a PD > Decals sheet out of the collection with 1/48 decals for that machine and > made a start, but its not really my fault! > Seriously, the Hyperscale article mentioned that some changes were made to > the cockpit to accomodate an injury suffered by Goering, could anyone > describe and/or show me a photo. I only have one relatively poor quality > photo of this machine, but believe there are more about. > Also, would I be right in assuming that the fuselage interior is "reverse" > lozenge, and that the original lozenge printed fabric was overpainted white > ? > BTW, I've posted some photos of two DML Fokker Triplanes I built a couple of > years ago at the website I maintain on behalf of my club, > http://www.kithobbyist.com/IPMSAustralia/ if you're interested. > Thanks > Tony > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:53:59 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'World War I'" Subject: New Year's resolutions Message-ID: As I'm sitting here at work not really doing much just waiting for someone to say, Go Home, I though some New Year's resolutions for OT modeling were in order. I will finish at least one new kit this year. I will take pictures and send them to the site. I will finish the 6 to 8 kits I've started. I will get rid of my 1/72 kits. I will learn to scratch build something. I guess I've stretched my brain as far as it will go. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:55:29 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Rheinbeck MoS AI again Message-ID: <20011231175529.8338F467F6@eclipse.qis.net> --Message-Boundary Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit So far there have been two images posted at the Aerodrome Forum of Rheinbeck's Morane-Saulnier Type AI, which is definitely looking more and more like a Type 27C.1. The person posting the images states it's an original aircraft as well. Awesome! Getting closer to knowing what the Type 27 looked like under the wing... Here's the link: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=aircraft&action=display&num=1009154455&start=0 Matt Bittner --Message-Boundary Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: attachment; filename="" --Message-Boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:01:04 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Year Message-ID: <20011231180104.1BD36467F6@eclipse.qis.net> --Message-Boundary Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:55:22 -0500 (EST), "Harris, Mack" wrote: > I will get rid of my 1/72 kits. Sad, very sad. Pobody's Nerfect, I guess. Just be sure to let "us" have first dibs. :-) My resolutions are as follows: Finish most of the models I have on my workbench now (durned Hawks) Finish at least one Morane-Saulnier Finish at least one Nieuport Finish at least one SPAD 7 (woo hoo!!) Build mainly WW1 French Matt Bittner --Message-Boundary Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: attachment; filename="" --Message-Boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:04:19 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Additional Fok.E.III Cockpit photos Message-ID: <002501c19225$922618a0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi All- Anyone interested I found a couple of additional cockpit Fok.E.III photos. Contact me off-list and I'll scan them for you. Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:11:00 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Indigo got up and Derwent Message-ID: <00ae01c19226$813f33e0$9d3dfad1@dwfjv01> > ps-noticed you absolutely refrained from including 'butternut homespuns' in > your study....now there's a standard! > > ; ) That subject right there is still a great way to start a debate at best, an argument otherwise, around a campfire: was it always brown? was it grey and faded to brown? if so, did it do so within six months, or 60 years?, etc., etc. I thought that by leaving that hobby/avocation and taking up modeling, I would escape that. Yeah right! Same hairstyles, same attitudes, and yes, they are related! :) I do know a fellow who based his senior thesis in college (B.S. in Textile Engineering) on the grey vs. butternut thing and did the scientific researchto back his claims. Impresive piece of work.. I have yet to see anyone on this list, however, do the same with PC 10 or Geman Mauve. Although I am sure that now that I have mentioned it, it will happen. 8^) Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:13:24 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: New Year's resolutions Message-ID: <00ba01c19226$d6b9d500$9d3dfad1@dwfjv01> > I will get rid of my 1/72 kits. > Mack Hey Mack! Hey Mack! I'm open! I'm open1 Throw it to me! Warren (Who has committed himself to helping his son build the Airfix Aichi thingee today that he got from Santa.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:14:32 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! Message-ID: <008201c19226$ff1d3000$0100005a@ptd.net> Hans I usually hand brush it on. I tried airbrushing it, but it seemed to go on in a lot of little dots that never meshed into a complete coat. Probably something i'm doing wrong with the airbrush. Anyway, handbrushing it on is easy. I just clear my brush in the decal water. It helps the decals go on later, I think. I also wait to put the rudder on until the end. Ammonia definitely clears up the Future coat...it also clears up the old sinuses. hth Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday,December 31,2001 10:15 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! > Do you paint Future with a brush or airbrush it? I managed to get Future > from the PX plus one bottle british 'Klear'. But I still hesitate to use it > in the airbrush due to cleaning problems. I have been informed that simple > household ammonia will suffice and most US future users take 'Windex'. The > problem is I can't get hold of 'ammonia' and the german equivalents of > window cleaners stopped to use ammonia or 'salmiak'. > > Hans > > P.S. In the meanwhile I came to the thought that I'll place the rudder's > decal at last, after masking and spraying matt paint. I simply have to > remove all the clear film from the cross. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:21:06 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! Message-ID: <00d201c19227$ea48bd60$9d3dfad1@dwfjv01> Mike, When you brush Future on, are you doing so straight, or are you diluting it? What kind fo brush do you prefer? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:28:03 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Speaking of sneezing... Message-ID: <010401c19228$e28fb320$0100005a@ptd.net> Lance & Mike wondered: I use our fourth bedroom which was carpeted, for modeling. I removed the carpet and installed floor tiles just so I could either sweep with a broom or use a vacuum cleaner with a clean bag to find lost parts. This sounds like a good idea. They are in the process of finishing the fire destroyed modelroo. I used to have it carpeted, but had decided on replacing the carpet with white linoleum....I figured anything other than white parts would show up pretty well. Of course, that means I have to stop painting using the floor. I had them put in an exhaust fan, so what few brain cells I have left will have a chance of surviving my next bout with the airbrush. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:33:32 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: What Santa brought Message-ID: <012701c19229$a6a91da0$0100005a@ptd.net> . From him I received a real treasure: > the HitKit Balilla AND the Formaplane Balilla--I believe I will bash them > together for a really knockout model; but now, do I build it Polish or Italian? > Easy one....Polish. I liked the beginning of your Polish airforce section...copied one of the Albatros onto my friend's computer for wallpaper. He's into studyign WWII Polish pilots and their airplanes, but it started to get him thinking about expanding his horizons. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:36:23 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Rhinebeck Message-ID: <013401c1922a$0cdee320$0100005a@ptd.net> Matt I about 2 1/2 hours away. I plan on heading out there this spring, if that's soon enough. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:36:08 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Year's resolutions Message-ID: I will finish what I've started. I will take pictures and send them to the site. I will bring some WWI models to a local meeting, and a cushion for Mike Kendix for when he falls over... I will get rid of my unwanted kits. **Forget above** I will have the nerve to modify what I've planned to modify, just pick up the damn xacto and cut! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:39:28 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rhinebeck Message-ID: <20011231183928.8555F467F6@eclipse.qis.net> --Message-Boundary Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:36:21 -0500 (EST), Muth and Zulick wrote: > I about 2 1/2 hours away. I plan on heading out there this spring, if > that's soon enough. Definitely! Heck, it's probably surrounded by snow now anyway. :-) Thanks! Matt Bittner --Message-Boundary Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: attachment; filename="" --Message-Boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:39:57 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Seasonal Greetings! Message-ID: Happy New Year to all my friends (what the heck, enemies too) on the list! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:53:13 +0100 From: Kristjan.Runarsson@t-online.de (Kristjan Runarsson) To: Subject: How about Fok.E.I Cockpit photos Was -> Re: Additional Fok.E.III Cockpit photos Message-ID: <000901c1922c$6664c160$ea8dfea9@kristjar> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Plesha" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: [WWI] Additional Fok.E.III Cockpit photos > Hi All- > Anyone interested I found a couple of additional cockpit Fok.E.III photos. > Contact me off-list and I'll scan them for you. Uuuuhhhh! How about E.I or E.II cockpit photos that show the fuel tank and ammo boxes??? Anybody? Cheers KR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:56:35 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How about Fok.E.I Cockpit photos Was -> Additional Fok.E.III Cockpit photos Message-ID: <20011231185635.5386E467F6@eclipse.qis.net> --Message-Boundary Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hey everybody, why not share your images with all of us easily? Just send them to Allan (and me, probably late next week) to add to the site? That way we all can benefit. Matt Bittner --Message-Boundary Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: attachment; filename="" --Message-Boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:04:30 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: >From: "ibs4421" > I think the current pop-culture surrounding the scale paint thing >can >be applied more readily to World War of the Second Part a/c and >vehicles >and onward than it can to WW of the First Part. This is one >reason, >amongst many, that I have never had any great, burning desire >to build a >model and enter it in a contest. Warren: The above is a commonly held misapprehension, I believe. In IPMS judging, the authenticty of the colours is not really high up on the list of what judges look for. Unless you do something quite unusual, for example, paint your DH2 in overall "USSR Underside Blue", it is of little consequence. Most models get ranked on the basics - seam filling, paint job (finish, not colour), lining things up straight, decal job etc. Most judges are nowhere near expert in enough categories to judge whether you should have used a brown or green PC-10, or whether you're CDL is too beige etc. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4017 **********************