WWI Digest 4016 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Lost email by Matt Bittner 2) Re: Lost email by "Ross Moorhouse" 3) Re: Back, et al by "Lee M." 4) Flashback? by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 5) Re: Flashback? by "Ross Moorhouse" 6) Re: Flashback? by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 7) Re: Flashback? by "Ross Moorhouse" 8) Re: Flashback? by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 9) Superscale RFC Roundel decals - Blue colour? by "James Fahey" 10) Re: Flashback? by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 11) Re: Superscale RFC Roundel decals - Blue colour? by David Fleming 12) Your Albatros D.V 3-d renderings by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 13) iwIjRRfoqMn6b9aEscmG =?big5?Q?=BCx=A8D=AD=BB=B4=E4=A9=CE (=A4=A4=B0=EA) =B6T=A9=F6=A6X=A7@=B9=D9=A6=F1?= by ¥xÆWÅwÁâ°ê»ÚªÑ¥÷¦³­­¤½¥q 14) Luedemann Nieuport 24 by Matt Bittner 15) Re: Profiles in courage, Flypast 6 by KnnthS@aol.com 16) Re: Hyperscale review of Pegasus's Vickers FB5 'Gun Bus' by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 17) Re: Flashback? by KnnthS@aol.com 18) Re: Profile publications, Flypast 6 by "Hans Trauner" 19) Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! by "Hans Trauner" 20) =?big5?Q?=A7=D6=B0T!!!=A9m=A6W=BE=C7 =A7=B9=A5=FE=A7K=B6O~~?= by Net5½u¤W¯«ºâ 21) Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! by "Michael Kendix" 22) Latest OtF by tbittners@sprintmail.com 23) Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! by "Hans Trauner" 24) Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! by KnnthS@aol.com 25) Future thinning & cleaning by "Tom Plesha" 26) Astonishing site found by "Hans Trauner" 27) Re: Astonishing site found by KnnthS@aol.com 28) Re: Ni 27 - cockpit by "Lance Krieg" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:26:58 -0600 From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Lost email Message-ID: <3C2FDB02.8030408@sprintmail.com> If anyone sent me any email today - FWIW - I lost it all before I even received it. Could you re-send, please? TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:33:45 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Lost email Message-ID: <007701c191ab$f5e5d580$9710cecb@umber> Now everyone on the list e-mail Matt... hehehehehe Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: [WWI] Lost email | If anyone sent me any email today - FWIW - I lost it all before I even | received it. Could you re-send, please? TIA! | | | Matt Bittner | | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:14:13 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Back, et al Message-ID: <3C2FE615.977D2B02@x25.net> Happy New Years Matt. Now don't lose this one.... Lee M. N. B Tx Matt Bittner wrote: > Well, I'm back, and back subscribed. I'm still on my wife's computer, > but that will be changing next week (woo hoo!!). > > I came home to some great packaged. The first part of my secret santa > gift (a CD with German WW1 songs on it). A box from Witold that's still > at the post office (which I'll pick up tomorrow) and G.'s package of the > Luedemann Nieuport 24. > > I haven't looked very closely at the Nie.24, but it looks rough. > Granted it's definitely better than the HR equivalent, but there is so > much more that could have been done to it. I have yet to look it over > in detail, but there was a large resin "blob" on the trailing edge of > one part of the upper wing (which is in three parts). Argh! Ah well... > > I'm thinking of going the "Casirati method" with the upper forward > fuselage since the fuselage is in one piece, with a small hole for the > cockpit. That is, remove the forward upper fuselage at the longeron, > and replace with a "squashed" replacement. That way I'll have room to > Dremel out the entire cockpit as far back as possible. > > Now to get at least one of the Choroszy Nieuports and see "in person" > how these compare. I have seen a scan of the Nie.25 and it looks decent > from the scan, but I won't know for sure until I actually fondle it. > > Anyway, Happy New Year to all the good people on this list. I hope to > build more in 2002, since 2001 was a really crappy year for me personally. > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:12:27 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Flashback? Message-ID: G'day Ross; Flashback? Does this relate to "Cut Flashback"? (Sorry, couldn't resist that one). I actually thought that Flashback were relatively high quality kits or is it the Short Run Syndrome?. I have the Taube at home and thats relatively flash free....Is the E-III an older release? I bet all that flash has sent you scurrying back to the Gunbus. : ) I have the Temeks Morane I and have had to reshape the cockpit area... so far its half done after six months... : ) (mutters one day, one day.whilst rattling chains...) I'm restarting the Tripe after New Years as all that Christmas sweet stuff excited a bit of a toothache which led to a wee extraction : 0 so not much modelling since then.... Just my five cents (au) on the scale colour debate of recent days.... I tend not to attempt scale colouration as I don't believe that I can achieve a representation that I know relates to actual scale colour given I have not seen, for example an original Fokker DVII at 72 feet distance (or any distance) and thus do not know what the scale colour can look like. I know Dicta Ira applies here but I am a bit sceptical regarding those who believe such epistemological factors can be objectified. Most people tend to do it as 'art' and that's okay, but it cant really be quantified. I weather my models slightly which I guess achieves a similar effect and is subject to the same epistemological limitations. (with apologies to philosophy 101) A Happy and Safe New Year to All Listees! All The Best Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:21:48 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: <00b201c191bb$0f5ab800$9710cecb@umber> I thought that Flashback bought the molds of the E.III from Eduard?? I loved that "Cut FlashBack" For one who has had a hole made in his mouth you are doing well. ;-) I worked on the cowling on the E.III last night. It needed those giant sprues cut away from it. Also there was dribbled plastic that had to be sanded off the curved surface as well. I ordered the CMK German WWI Rotary from NKR today to go into the E.III. I look at the one I used from the Eduard Sop Tripe and its not nice at all. I don't mean the resin one, but the injected one. Even with the Flashback P.E. push rods. I would love to build a Taube one day too. :-) Yes a very Happy and safe New year to all. I hope 2002 is a better year peace wise in the world. But doubt it. :-( Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: [WWI] Flashback? | G'day Ross; | | Flashback? Does this relate to "Cut Flashback"? (Sorry, couldn't resist | that one). I actually thought that Flashback were relatively high quality | kits or is it the Short Run Syndrome?. I have the Taube at home and thats | relatively flash free....Is the E-III an older release? I bet all that | flash has sent you scurrying back to the Gunbus. : ) I have the Temeks | Morane I and have had to reshape the cockpit area... so far its half done | after six months... : ) (mutters one day, one day.whilst rattling | chains...) | | I'm restarting the Tripe after New Years as all that Christmas sweet stuff | excited a bit of a toothache which led to a wee extraction : 0 so not much | modelling since then.... | | Just my five cents (au) on the scale colour debate of recent days.... I | tend not to attempt scale colouration as I don't believe that I can achieve | a representation that I know relates to actual scale colour given I have | not seen, for example an original Fokker DVII at 72 feet distance (or any | distance) and thus do not know what the scale colour can look like. I know | Dicta Ira applies here but I am a bit sceptical regarding those who believe | such epistemological factors can be objectified. Most people tend to do it | as 'art' and that's okay, but it cant really be quantified. I weather my | models slightly which I guess achieves a similar effect and is subject to | the same epistemological limitations. (with apologies to philosophy 101) | | A Happy and Safe New Year to All Listees! | | All The Best | | Neil E. | | | | | | | | | ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ | NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. | | Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. | | Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. | | If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au | ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:00:51 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: Ross; You're right the Eduard E-III engine is a bit indistinct but doesnt seem as bad as what you describe - maybe its the age of the mould. Earl has WWI resin rotaries? - I still need to visit his sight with wallet in hand so I'll see what he has - might get a couple - My Clerget needs to go into the Oven Cleaner but I'm scared the scratchbuilt pushrods will fall off (all the detail is disappearing under the second painting attempt ;) All the Best Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:11:39 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: <00c101c191c2$06813ae0$9710cecb@umber> Kit Hunter, Maybe when you have dipped your engine into the oven cleaner it will end up looking like the 2 part one that came with the E.III. ;-) For the engines on Earls site, look at the Resin page 1/48th CMK stuff. :) $5 each for the engines I bought. I have seen them on The Great Models site in the States for $8.95 USD.. They are a bargain from Earl. No Allied engines though. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Flashback? | | Ross; | | You're right the Eduard E-III engine is a bit indistinct but doesnt seem as | bad as what you describe - maybe its the age of the mould. Earl has WWI | resin rotaries? - I still need to visit his sight with wallet in hand so | I'll see what he has - might get a couple - My Clerget needs to go into the | Oven Cleaner but I'm scared the scratchbuilt pushrods will fall off (all | the detail is disappearing under the second painting attempt ;) | | All the Best | | Neil E. | | | | ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ | NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. | | Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. | | Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. | | If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au | ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:26:52 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: Ross; No worries - I'll maybe have a look tomorrow (but not tonight!) Must keep away from oven cleaner......Happy New Year Ross 'n All! All the Best Neil E. (off home) _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:51:42 +1300 From: "James Fahey" To: Subject: Superscale RFC Roundel decals - Blue colour? Message-ID: <003b01c191cf$fdb77100$7090a7cb@computer> Greetings All New Year hits the world first in Enzed and the smell of neighbourhood barbeques is wafting through my windows and the sounds of parties are in the air. The kids have gone to sleep (wishful thought) and I am ready to paint the PC10 on the two 1/72 DH2s on the workbench. I tried the Misterkit PC10 last night for the first time, applied by brush over a white undercoat and was VERYdisappointed with the coverage. The CDL and grey colours went down very nicely but I think the PC10 would still look streaky after 4-5 coats. I guess a grey primer would have been advisable, and probably an airbrush also. Question for the Wise Ones: I bought the Superscale RFC decal sheet recently and it seemed odd to me that the blue colour on the roundels was so much lighter than most of the kit decal sheets I have. Are these decals regarded as being accurate? Is it possible that they are accurate only for a specific period of the war? I was planning to use them on one of the DH2s. I hope '02 is a happier and safer year for everyone. My NY resolution is to increase my output of completed kits . . . yeah right. Cheers James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:05:46 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: >the same epistemological limitations.__ Anyone who can say that on New Year's Eve hasn't had enough to drink over Christmas... N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:16:18 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Superscale RFC Roundel decals - Blue colour? Message-ID: <3C302CE2.A472BAAD@dial.pipex.com> James Fahey wrote: > I tried the Misterkit PC10 > last night for the first time, applied by brush over a white undercoat and > was VERYdisappointed with the coverage. The CDL and grey colours went down > very nicely but I think the PC10 would still look streaky after 4-5 coats. > I guess a grey primer would have been advisable, and probably an airbrush > also. > I had the same problem, took about 6 coats (but they were very thin), eventually tried a different shape of brush (round as against chisel), went on much better. A grey undercoat helps. Others have had fewer problems, so maybe it's variable qualities in the paint ? > > Question for the Wise Ones: I bought the Superscale RFC decal sheet recently > and it seemed odd to me that the blue colour on the roundels was so much > lighter than most of the kit decal sheets I have. Are these decals regarded > as being accurate? Is it possible that they are accurate only for a specific > period of the war? Don't know the sheet, but I know that many early WW1 and interwar decals were too light due to the manufacturer wrongly interpreting the 'light' shade roundel blue appears on orthochromatic film. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:14:24 +0100 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "'mark.w.miller@goodrich.com'" Cc: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: Your Albatros D.V 3-d renderings Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F30F@SERVER1> Dear Mark, At last, I had the time to have a quieter look at the WW1 Modeling Page site and I came across your wonderful renderings. Wonderful work, well done ! I appreciate them very much and one of them (t_j5otto.jpg) is now gracing my PC screen at work.... All the very best for 2002, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:37:15 -0500 (EST) From: ¥xÆWÅwÁâ°ê»ÚªÑ¥÷¦³­­¤½¥q To: ­»´ä.¶T©ö°Ó (¤¤°ê) Subject: iwIjRRfoqMn6b9aEscmG =?big5?Q?=BCx=A8D=AD=BB=B4=E4=A9=CE (=A4=A4=B0=EA) =B6T=A9=F6=A6X=A7@=B9=D9=A6=F1?= Message-ID: ¥»¤½¥q¬O¥xÆW±M·~¶i¥X¤f¶T©ö¤Î²£«~¥N²z°Ó ¦p¦³¥ô¦ó¦X§@¾÷·|½Ð fax-886-2-86926969 §Ú¥q§Y¨è¦^¹q ©Î¹q¬¢886-2-86926868 §õ¥ý¥Í ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:04:39 -0600 From: Matt Bittner To: wwi Subject: Luedemann Nieuport 24 Message-ID: <3C305457.6010608@sprintmail.com> Well, I had a detailed look at the Luedemann 1/72nd Nieuport 24 last night. Before I get into the meat of the text, let me just say this is definitely better than the HR effort. With that being said, now onward. :-) Again, this kit is definitely based on the Revell Nieuport 17. In fact, there still exists some of the "fabric weave", especially on the Nieuport 17 tail. (The kit builds into both the Nieuport 24 (rounded tail) and the Nieuport 24bis (Nieuport 17 tail). So, since it's based on the Revell kit, some of the Revell errors still exist. The lower wings are too short in span; the rear, fuselage underside isn't "deep" enough; and the Nie.24bis rudder is not large enough. The upper wing is in three pieces - center, containing some poorly molded aileron cranks (although they did try for better accuracy with these), and two outer pieces. Placing them together it does look lik Luedemann got the dimensions right (including sweep back!!) but there is some slight sanding on the center piece to get the leading edges to angle correctly. The wheels are a smidge large (but useable) and the Nie.24 tail is a smidge small (but still useable). Overall, though, this kit is a huge disappointment. With everybody on this list giving rave reviews over Luedemann kits, I was expecting something along the lines of Choroszy or Rosemont (two of the best resin makers out there now). Not so. In fact, I consider the molding quality of HR better than Luedemann. There are pinholes in each and every part, some parts worse than others. Some of the Nie.24 horiz. tail piece are not molded, with large, gaping holes. The trailing edges of the wings - while commendebly sharp - also have a number of nick and pits in them, which I have no idea how to fix without ruining the chord of the wings. There are resin "blobs" in both wheels, making them completely unusable. The interplane struts are way too thick. While the fuselage detail, especially the representation of the stringers, is very nice, the area in between the stringers requires a lot of work to make it presentable. It looks like a small part of the mold may have shifted resulting in the resin "bulging" in places which will need to be sanded out. One of the upper, outer wings has a large resin "bulge" that needs to be removed. All in all, if I was to grade this kit, I would give it a 'C+'. The two things saving it are the stringer representation of the fuselage (although still requiring a lot of work to fix) and the correct dimensions of the upper wing. Two areas that I feel the HR kit falls flat on. I can't say if the Choroszy Nieuport 24 is better, but I suspect so, given Choroszy's quality. When I receive the Choroszy Nieuport 24 I will give my assesment, and recommend one over the other. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:13:53 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Profiles in courage, Flypast 6 Message-ID: Neil reasonably writes: << Dont do it! >> am flying past 6, corrected. kidding kidding kidding was it the E.C. Yardbirds, Paige or Jeff Beck? great aces, every one- Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:17:45 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hyperscale review of Pegasus's Vickers FB5 'Gun Bus' Message-ID: <12e.a1c3058.2961bf79@aol.com> In a message dated 30/12/01 13:01:51 GMT Standard Time, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes: << Both are about equal in the amount of flash and mold gate cleanup involved. >> Perhaps this submission should be preserved in aspic as the first ever recommendation of a Merlin kit on the list ;) Previously I have voiced suspicions that Merlin's masters are miles better than his kits. Is there a conclusion to be reached from the similarities these kits share and the history behind Merlin/Pegasus? Or is that just idle speculation? And what say our Czech or Slovac listees about it. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:17:58 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Flashback? Message-ID: <166.66eb4d4.2961bf86@aol.com> N C-H writes: << Anyone who can say that >> now there's a man wot got 'is 'ead on straight. happy day, everyone. ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:02:15 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Profile publications, Flypast 6 Message-ID: <001101c19203$c09482c0$fda172d4@FRITZweb> Subject: [WWI] Profile publications, Flypast 6 > Windsor: Profile Publications, 1972 8vo., printed card covers, some light wear, small stain on front, internally clean and bright, good condition, illustrated, each section paginated separately. S.E.5; Sopwith 1½ Strutter, deHavilland D.H.5; Short Seaplane Type 184; deHavilland D.H.9; Hanriot HD-1; Breuguet 14 b(Type XIV srs); Phoenix Scouts (D I to D IV); Roland (L.F.G.) CII "Walfisch"; Gotha G I to G V. > Is this a bound version of all the profiles mentioned, or just excerpts from same profiles? This is definetely a bound volume. It contains complete profiles. These flypast series constists of 10 - 11 profiles each. Their biggest disadvantage were they mixed eras and types and countries. And in most cases I had 5 of the 10 included already.. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:10:17 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! Message-ID: <004901c19204$dfb21900$fda172d4@FRITZweb> Listees, friends, I am running in a unexpected masking problem with my Eduard Alb. DII. ( But this problem will arise in any Albatros project!). I finished the fuselage with Lifecolor Acrylics with a Oil based stain. I covered it now with Gunze gloss to seal the Oils and prepare it for the decals. I will do the camo on wings etc. also with Lifecolor, but I wish to have a more glossy sheen on the fuselage. Now the problem: How do I mask the rudder? It'll be matt. The fixed part should be glossy. And the decal cross? I have to apply it on glossy undersurface... Any help or ideas are appreciated! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:27:28 -0500 (EST) From: Net5½u¤W¯«ºâ To: ¿Ë·Rªººô¤Í Subject: =?big5?Q?=A7=D6=B0T!!!=A9m=A6W=BE=C7 =A7=B9=A5=FE=A7K=B6O~~?= Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_Eu6hkVeo9CpXyr6pGezimazzao2g Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_Eu6hkVeo9CpXyr6pGezimazzao2gAA" ------=_NextPart_Eu6hkVeo9CpXyr6pGezimazzao2gAA Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+DQo8ZnJhbWVzZXQgcm93cz0qIGZyYW1lYm9yZGVyPSJOTyIgYm9yZGVyPSIwIiBmcmFt ZXNwYWNpbmc9IjAiIGNvbHM9Kj4NCjxmcmFtZSBzY3JvbGxpbmc9InllcyIgc3JjPSJodHRwOi8v aW1nLm5ldHM1LmNvbS9BRC8wMTEyMzEuaHRtIj4NCjwvZnJhbWVzZXQ+DQo8L2h0bWw+ ------=_NextPart_Eu6hkVeo9CpXyr6pGezimazzao2gAA-- ------=_NextPart_Eu6hkVeo9CpXyr6pGezimazzao2g-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:55:50 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! Message-ID: Hans: This is what I do. 1. Coat everything in gloss - I use Future, which is inexpensive and can be brushed on easily. 2. Put on the decals on the glossed surface. 3. Seal the decals with Future. 4. Spray matt coat on the model - try to keep it off the areas you want to keep gloss. 5. Pasint over, using Future, all the areas that you want to get back to gloss. Michael >From: "Hans Trauner" >Listees, friends, >I am running in a unexpected masking problem with my Eduard Alb. DII. ( >But >this problem will arise in any Albatros project!). I finished the fuselage >with Lifecolor Acrylics with a Oil based stain. I covered it now with Gunze >gloss to seal the Oils and prepare it for the decals. I will do the camo on >wings etc. also with Lifecolor, but I wish to have a more glossy sheen on >the fuselage. Now the problem: How do I mask the rudder? It'll be matt. The >fixed part should be glossy. And the decal cross? I have to apply it on >glossy undersurface... > >Any help or ideas are appreciated! > >Hans > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:56:02 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Latest OtF Message-ID: <20011231145602.AAAB3467C4@eclipse.qis.net> --Message-Boundary Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit When I arrived back from vacation, the latest Over the Front, Vol 16 No 3, was waiting for me. And an awesome issue it is!!! A very large article on the history of Groupe de Combat 14, including awesome profiles (albeit rendered quite dark by the publisher) by our own Bob Pearson. Awesome. For those who don't know, GC14 consisted of (primarily) N/Spa77, 80, 83 and 84, with the replacement of N/Spa 77 and 84 by 75 and 86. In addition, Spa 166 and 171 were added late in the war. Personally, this makes the issue the best of 2001 for me, even without seeing 16/4. ;-) Oh, there is some other stuff in it too. Matt Bittner --Message-Boundary Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-disposition: attachment; filename="" --Message-Boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:16:42 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! Message-ID: <006e01c1920e$273d22c0$fda172d4@FRITZweb> Do you paint Future with a brush or airbrush it? I managed to get Future from the PX plus one bottle british 'Klear'. But I still hesitate to use it in the airbrush due to cleaning problems. I have been informed that simple household ammonia will suffice and most US future users take 'Windex'. The problem is I can't get hold of 'ammonia' and the german equivalents of window cleaners stopped to use ammonia or 'salmiak'. Hans P.S. In the meanwhile I came to the thought that I'll place the rudder's decal at last, after masking and spraying matt paint. I simply have to remove all the clear film from the cross. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:28:46 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Future Cleaning in Europe Was:Re: Masking problem with Alb D.II Help requested! Message-ID: <112.a3651bb.2961de2e@aol.com> Hans writes: << Do you paint Future with a brush or airbrush it? >> Hans, I brush it on with a soft #2 sable round-tipped. Emphasis "soft"...I use a bigger brush than one might think because you control 'the bead' not just the brush. A surface tension sort of thing, I think. There are no brush marks whatsoever if you work progressively across the surface. You can also experiment a bit with dilutions and get a 'Satin' effect this way, tho I suspect that is also true of airbrushing due to nature of half-dry from spray tip to surface. Using a brush is on the right track, here, I think. You get exactly the control you need and in the areas you've described. ...a thought... Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:36:17 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Future thinning & cleaning Message-ID: <002b01c19210$e3689ae0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Hans- I use Poly-S thinner for both cleaning the airbrush after using future and also use it to thin the Future, about 30% works for me. HTH Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:40:02 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Astonishing site found Message-ID: <009401c19211$69ab0700$fda172d4@FRITZweb> Listees, I have just found http://www.flugbeobachter.de/ which shows the war diary of a Franz Xaver Brandl, including some unseen pics! German text only, but most links are self-explanatory ( I hope). Hans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:44:53 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Astonishing site found Message-ID: <4f.16471fb2.2961e1f5@aol.com> In a message dated 31/12/01 7:39:09 am, hans.trauner@nefkom.net writes: << www.flugbeobachter.de/ >> it locked up my browser---what's that about...what'd I miss? ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:54:39 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Ni 27 - cockpit Message-ID: Alberto asks : "Am I wrong when I beleive that on Ni 11s - 27s, metal parts were usually black or NM and that the seat was stained wood ?" That is my understanding as well... japaned or natural aluminum metal, plywood seatback. Since the cushions on the seat could be easily modified by the pilot, these might not be standard. Even upholstering the seatback would be a fairly simple job in the field. "Are those [ammo-reel] panels typical of Ni 27s, too ?" I believe that all those Vickers-armed Nieuports before the N.28 had the take-up reel on the port wall, ala the N.17. The fuselages were asymetrical to accomodate the reel until the stringered fuselage made this unecessary, right? Where are the Nieuport experts? Lance ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 4016 **********************