WWI Digest 3991 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by KarrArt@aol.com 2) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by KnnthS@aol.com 3) Re: MisterKit Paints by KnnthS@aol.com 4) Re: SPAD VII -JGMT v. BM by KnnthS@aol.com 5) Re: SPAD question by "ibs4421" 6) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "ibs4421" 7) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "ibs4421" 8) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Steven Perry" 9) Re: MisterKit Paints by "ibs4421" 10) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "ibs4421" 11) re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman by Mark Miller 12) Re: MisterKit Paints by Shane Weier 13) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Steven Perry" 14) Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 15) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 16) re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman by Ray Boorman 17) Model Shop Visit by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 18) Re: Model Shop Visit.. Hey Tony Mollica by "Ross Moorhouse" 19) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane Weier 20) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 21) Re: MistaKit Paints by KnnthS@aol.com 22) Re: MistaKit Paints by Shane Weier 23) Re: SPAD VII -JGMT v. BM by "Dave Burke" 24) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Lee M." 25) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane Weier 26) Re: The people have spoken ... often... by KnnthS@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:20:38 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <4f.15b26f9a.29514566@aol.com> In a message dated 12/18/01 3:06:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << > Besides, being bi-scalar I can enjoy a good 1/72 kit and > needle Bittner too. The best of all worlds. We need a new list button with this motto on it Shane >> You mean one that says "needle Bittner"? RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:26:06 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <12d.983bb72.295146ae@aol.com> In a message dated 18/12/01 4:24:33 pm, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << Plus, 1/48th on topic is the only 1/48th I look at at contests... >> what Matt said.....on topic at all costs, scale next after that.... ww2 is such a drag to the old person...... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:28:56 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: MisterKit Paints Message-ID: <9e.1f4a0a76.29514758@aol.com> Shane writes: << Having said that, you can do what you want, but this is one of those things where using different colours is both historically accurate and easy to do. >> Would you elaborate on that? Please? My Nieuports are "just his side of white" cos of my personal aesthetics, but am seeing a specific historical mandate, here--what know, O SilberBacked One? tia- Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:33:48 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SPAD VII -JGMT v. BM Message-ID: <1e.203adf4d.2951487c@aol.com> DB Cooper writes: << Having built this kit >> Yo, DB- Can you tell me more about JMGT????? Where does one obtain and what is principal diff from BM effort??? IYO? Am a naif on "JMGT"--who dat? tanks- Ken ps-of course Guynemer....Wadd Else????? ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:58:59 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: SPAD question Message-ID: <005601c18830$ba0b6040$713dfad1@ibs4421> > ps-I think Warren's is also a rounded tip, early type. > > Warren? > Indeed, yes it is! Overall green as well. There is a dent in the nose, on the right hand side. I have thought of taking the whole front end down to bare aluminum, but have considered light blue, or light green. What is the consensus of the list? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:04:00 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <006e01c18831$6d4814a0$713dfad1@ibs4421> > > No scale wars for me. I like pulling Matts chain, but the great drought is > still fresh in my mind to do anything but applaud *any* WW1 model release. > > Shane I agree Shane. It seems only yesterday when I decided that I would like to start buying WWI models for the time I would start building again, and my only choices were what I had when I was a kid (Revell and Airfix) and I found Meikraft. Wonderous! When I found Pegasus releasing stuff I thought it wouldn't get any better, and then WOW! Blue Max and the DML releases. My mind absolutely boggled at the fact we could have a choice of more than three or four companies and two scales! Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:07:46 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <007601c18831$f43b8140$713dfad1@ibs4421> > Pansy.... > > Shane Why bother now? Now that you have uttered those words, I can pretty much count on Eduard to come out with one in 1/72nd scale. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:14:25 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <007f01c18832$e1601f80$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > > Why bother now? Now that you have uttered those words, I can pretty much > count on Eduard to come out with one in 1/72nd scale. OK Warren: Why wait for Eduard. I have a Revell Nie.17. I'll provide the kit and Matt can provide the necessary corretions. Are you up for it? sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:13:28 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: MisterKit Paints Message-ID: <008601c18832$c07c52c0$713dfad1@ibs4421> > Nope. Nieuport used aluminium powder loaded dope. Silbergrau was light grey > dope with aluminium powder in it. > > Having said that, you can do what you want, but this is one of those things > where using different colours is both historically accurate and easy to do. > > Shane Thanks Shane, I hadn't thought of that. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:35:31 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <00a001c18835$d4b8a740$713dfad1@ibs4421> Yeah, I'm feeling froggy! Understand now, that it will only be my second kit, after I finish the F.1. If ya'll think I could do it, I'll commit. Warren Who may need a good set of Nie. 17 decals in 1/72nd scale. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. > > > > Why bother now? Now that you have uttered those words, I can pretty much > > count on Eduard to come out with one in 1/72nd scale. > > OK Warren: > > Why wait for Eduard. I have a Revell Nie.17. I'll provide the kit and Matt > can provide the necessary corretions. Are you up for it? > sp > > > ------------------------------ Date: 18 Dec 2001 18:41:20 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman Message-ID: <20011219024120.13956.cpmta@c016.snv.cp.net> Mark, You said: "The illustration below depicts the installation of a synchronized Lewis Machine Gun.... This system, called the "Alkan Gear", was developed by Sergeant Alkan of the French Air Service and was used on a few early Nieuport it's before being replaced with the more reliable Vickers synchronization gear" Yea I know that last part is kinda screwed up, but that's how it reads... honest" I am not quite sure I understand what you mean by "screwed up". Harry Woodman says that the Alkan gear was not very reliable, and was not used much. Also, the Hazelton fix changed the Lewis innards almost into a Vickers, so perhaps that got corrupted in translation into vickers sync gear. regards Sanjeev Sanjeev The problem with the above statement is in the grammar – not the content. I believe it should read: ... was used on a few early Nieuport’s before being ... My grammar is not the best either, so I figured I should reassure people that I was not misquoting. Sorry for the confusion Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:43:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: MisterKit Paints Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD923@MIMHEXCH1> Ken asks: > << Having said that, you can do what you want, but this is > one of those things > where using different colours is both historically accurate > and easy to do. >> > > Would you elaborate on that? Please? My Nieuports are "just > his side of > white" cos of my personal aesthetics, but am seeing a > specific historical > mandate, here--what know, O SilberBacked One? Sorry, I don't have a lot to add. It just seems to me that there should be *some* difference in appearance between a dope made of cellulose acetate and aluminium powder, and one made of cellulose acetate, zinc white, lamp black and aluminium powder. Whether the difference is in colour, brightness, glossiness or something else is up to the artist (modeller) portraying them, because I sure as hell don't believe I "know" the correct shades for all these variations. (OTOH you're welcome to my own choices, which are a mix of light gull gray and aluminium for silbergrau, and Humbrol aluminium with a touch of flat white for aluminium dope. YMMV and I haven't built a silver/silbergrau plane in about 6 years so my opinion will probably change for the next one!) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:49:02 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <008901c18837$b80e2c80$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Yeah, I'm feeling froggy! Understand now, that it will only be my second > kit, after I finish the F.1. If ya'll think I could do it, I'll commit. > > Warren > Who may need a good set of Nie. 17 decals in 1/72nd scale. Matt's got a list of corrections, all I need is your address and you'll have the kit and there are folks on this WWI modeling list I know about who will be glad to talk you through whatever corrections you dcide to make. Don't see why you couldn't do it. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:25:55 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, Message-ID: <3C2008C3.5823097D@tac.com.au> Hi, > Rip off merchants *have* been known within sight of the coat hanger.... This is true > He hasn't tried that on me. In fact, at the last QMHE I bought 3-4 old vacs > from him for $5 the lot. He does have bargains, just the prices he charges for older kits can be a bit high at times. > Poor old F4U's eyes just about bugged out when I told him what I thought of > his proposed prices for the Roden Gotha a week before last years show. Since > he acts as a reseller of Earls stuff and Earl was cheaper even than Andrew > at H&MC, asking an extra $15 was a bit rich. By the time he got to Brissy he > had a more reasonable price on everything. NOT that I bought one. The Roden > Gotha is in 1/teensy scale and one has to keep up ones standards. Well he supports the club meetings with the stuff he gets from Earl & does deserve to make a decent profit on the new stuff. As for the Gothas - well we've yet to get them - maybe next year ;-) StY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:26:24 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <3C2008E0.8B70E8FD@tac.com.au> Hi, > > Ummm this poll reminds me of the polls in Yes Minister/Yes Prime > > Minister or in fact any poll done these days ;-þ > > > > This poll seems to be preaching to the choir ie: it just confirms HS > > target audience > > > > Ahhhh, grasshopper. Such wisdom in one so young. Thanks gramps ;-þ > Just what I was thinking. Hyperscale is okay for 10 minutes diversion but > hardly representative of any part of the modelling fraternity other than > Hyperscale itself While I wouldn't go quite that far, there is some stunning work on HS, I agree with the basic premise. StY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:30:42 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman Message-ID: <20011219033312.IHEY28264.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> The Alkan gear for a Lewis gun has always confused me. As far as I always knew a lewis gun along with a hotchkiss was almost impossible to synchronise since it had an erratic rate of fire when measured in the increments needed for synchronization. I didn't say that very well but what I am getting at is that the timing of fire to when the trigger is pressed is not accurate enough to be synchronised reliably. Has anyone else read this?? Is it an old wives tale, urban legend etc?? Ray On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:14:36 -0500 (EST), hoot see wrote: >Mark, >You said: >"The illustration below depicts the installation of a synchronised >Lewis >Machine Gun.... This system, called the "Alkan Gear", was developed >by >sergant Alkan of the French Air Service and was used on a few early >Nieuport >it's before being replaced with the more reliable vickers >synchronisation >gear" > >Yea I know that last part is kinda screwed up, but that's how it >reads... >honest" > I am not quite sure I understand what you mean by "screwed up". >Harry >Woodman says that the Alkan gear was not very reliable, and was not >used >much. Also, the Hazelton fix changed the Lewis innards almost into a >Vickers, so perhaps that got corrupted in translation into vickers >sync >gear. >regards >Sanjeev > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:05:50 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Model Shop Visit Message-ID: Tony; Were you at Snowy Mountains Models on the weekend? If one of the Eduards you were looking at was the Fokker E- III, it was me that got this. I saw it and on impulse just bought it......Carpe Diem and all that...... All the Best Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:33:16 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Model Shop Visit.. Hey Tony Mollica Message-ID: <02a701c18846$49260040$800dcecb@umber> There is a shop here in Sydney that has at least 5 Flashback E.IIIs. they are between $40 and $50. Let me know if you want one.. You have to watch the Kit Hunter. Once he gets onto the trail of a hard to get OT kit there is nothing that will get in his way.. ;-) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: [WWI] Model Shop Visit | Tony; | | Were you at Snowy Mountains Models on the weekend? If one of the Eduards | you were looking at was the Fokker E- III, it was me that got this. I saw | it and on impulse just bought it......Carpe Diem and all that...... | | All the Best | | Neil E. | | | | ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ | NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. | | Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. | | Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. | | If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au | ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:39:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD924@MIMHEXCH1> StY > > Just what I was thinking. Hyperscale is okay for 10 minutes > >diversion but > > hardly representative of any part of the modelling > > fraternity other than Hyperscale itself > While I wouldn't go quite that far, there is some stunning > work on HS, > I agree with the basic premise. Where does the quality of the work have any bearing on the representativeness (ecchh) of HS? That said, it's possibly even an argument that HS *doesn't* represent the modelling world at large. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:47:55 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <3C201BFB.2B628965@tac.com.au> StE > Where does the quality of the work have any bearing on the > representativeness (ecchh) of HS? I meant the 10 minute diversion part ;-) > That said, it's possibly even an argument that HS *doesn't* represent the > modelling world at large. Agreed - most modellers don't even know (or care) that modelling sites on the net exist :-( Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:15:52 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: MistaKit Paints Message-ID: <36.20a01a5e.29517c88@aol.com> Shane writes: << OTOH you're welcome to my own choices >> So silbergrau is sl. darker of the two. Have thrown a spot of lt. blue in mine to give it slight cast, but did not know to differentiate it from things French. Interesting - as function of lamp black.... thanks, Shane Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:26:57 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: MistaKit Paints Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD928@MIMHEXCH1> Ken > know to differentiate it from things French. Interesting - as > function of lamp black.... I guess lamp (or carbon) black is used simply as a pigment with zinc white to produce grey. I have no idea why the Pfalz people chose to mix alumiuim powder into grey dope as a protective finish rather than into clear dope in the French fashion. Maybe there were savings - less metal powder versus the zinc oxide and lamp black thus saving weight or maybe saving money. Something I can't say I've exercised my ever reluctant brain cells over. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:38:58 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Re: SPAD VII -JGMT v. BM Message-ID: <001101c1884f$75a499c0$6173fea9@s0024008072> > DB Cooper writes: > > << Having built this kit >> > > Yo, DB- > > Can you tell me more about JMGT????? IIRC, they were (are) a French company. > Where does one obtain and what is principal diff from BM effort??? > IYO? Well, having never built the Blue Max kit, I cannot comment on whether it was better. My gut instinct would be a strong 'yes' towards the JGMT. It's a resin and metal kit - and a bit heavy for what you'd expect, but otherwise it is a treat. Where to obtain? Well, they are about as scarce as hen's teeth - I managed to pry one away from Ken Acosta a while back. I am strongly of the opinion that the SPAD VII was a more important aircraft than many that are released as injection kits - WHAZZUP EDUARD??? - and there were many neat-looking ones too. > Am a naif on "JMGT"--who dat? > The aforementioned allegedly French company. They are also Battle Axe, IIRC. > tanks- Fuggedahboutit > ps-of course Guynemer....Wadd Else????? ; ) Dunno - many aces flew the VII, Nungesser? I wanna 1/48 Eduard kit that I can offord to buy several and do all of the Storks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:32:55 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <3C202686.42B6C92B@x25.net> HS may not be to the liking of every one but they have one of the very best dissertations on model photography around. There are other items on there, as well, where one who wishes can gain a lot of information. My time is never wasted if I learn something new. I suppose that every one would "wax poetically" if the majority of the content was WW I. That is what like about being open minded. A rut is a rut regardless of what it may be called by others, but, even a ditch can carry things other then sewage. It depends, I guess, on what you are putting into it. How many of those that dislike HS have contributed an article on making a WW I aircraft or photographing it. Look at the bright side. Some folks like HS a lot. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx Shane & Lorna Jenkins wrote: > StE > > > Where does the quality of the work have any bearing on the > > representativeness (ecchh) of HS? > > I meant the 10 minute diversion part ;-) > > > That said, it's possibly even an argument that HS *doesn't* represent the > > modelling world at large. > > Agreed - most modellers don't even know (or care) that modelling sites > on the net exist :-( > > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:38:55 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD929@MIMHEXCH1> Lee, > How many of those that dislike HS have contributed an article > on making a WW I > aircraft or photographing it. > > Look at the bright side. Some folks like HS a lot. Good advice for you too old mate. Noone here said *anything* against Hyperscale. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:46:53 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... often... Message-ID: <149.6932425.295183cd@aol.com> In a message dated 18/12/01 6:05:29 pm, ibs4421@commandnet.net writes: << My mind absolutely boggled at the fact we could have a choice of more than three or four companies and two scales! >> >snerk< mine boggles at argueing over the two, but, >gark< whatever..... The Scenario: It is the year 2018. In the 'Scale Wars" of the early part of the century, glorious electronic gladiators, from the world over, fought the War Of Scales on what was then referred to as "The Internet"....As the battle raged to a pitch, it very nearly destroyed the modelling industry. It destroyed many individual companies. Finally all that remained were a few tiny Limited-Run "Boutiques" (gasp) producing *only* WW1 and *only* in one scale. . . . And *only* in Britain (of course). (roit.) Scratch Builders took to the hills, mountains and caves to still 'have a go' at their scale of choice, but for the rest of the Modeling Community, It Was One Scale and One Time Frame. It was a drab time, truly-there was nothing left to nibble and bicker about. New technology had been developed in Photoshop 12 to accurately specify the color of aircraft shown in photos from the period 1914-18. The only thing left to discuss, it seemed, was what the (phonetic) word "Fong" meant....no one was certain, but believed it had something to do with further obscure obsessions. .. Scratch Builders became rogue and began turning in aircraft in odd sizes like [One Potato = A Strut] and [3 cubits if it's Tuesday] - "just to be unique" they said. They still did *beautiful work*, but only each individual knew what scale he or she was working in. Finally they started arguing about whether a potato was, in fact, an *instrument of calibration* and the query developed: "Which potato, then?" and also: "With or Without Eyes? ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3991 **********************