WWI Digest 3990 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: SPAD question by KnnthS@aol.com 2) Re: Update to the AFV BBQ site... by "Ross Moorhouse" 3) Re: SPAD question by KnnthS@aol.com 4) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane Weier 5) RE: The People, Yes. -By Carl Sandburg by KnnthS@aol.com 6) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by KnnthS@aol.com 7) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane Weier 8) Re: Update to the AFV BBQ site... by "Brian Nicklas" 9) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane Weier 10) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane Weier 11) Re: Some of The People Have Spoken ...at Hyperscale. by KnnthS@aol.com 12) re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman by "hoot see" 13) Re: Kodak moments for the teens by Shane Weier 14) RE: MisterKit Paints by Shane Weier 15) Re: MisterKit Paints by Shane Weier 16) RE: Ardpol DH9 by Shane Weier 17) RE: Ardpol DH9 by "Ross Moorhouse" 18) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Matt Bittner 19) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Dave Burke" 20) SPAD VII was: Re: [The people have spoken by "Dave Burke" 21) PS.7 Update by "Steven Perry" 22) Re: PS.7 Update by "Ross Moorhouse" 23) Gotha Update by "Dave Burke" 24) RE: Gotha Update by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:47:58 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SPAD question Message-ID: In a message dated 18/12/01 2:25:58 pm, hans.trauner@nefkom.net writes: << ccording to the famous 'on-the-wheel-kneeling' pic EVR flew a squared-off type. Seems to be S4523. >> ps-I think Warren's is also a rounded tip, early type. Warren? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:48:18 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Update to the AFV BBQ site... Message-ID: <009801c18816$1b167840$800dcecb@umber> As far as I know about this kit is that there is a box lid. it has a photo of the A7V on it. Also read that someone has seen the sprues for this kit too. But not in the shops yet.. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Nicklas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Update to the AFV BBQ site... | | And I see the newest ads in the model mags for Squadron list an Emhar 1/72 | A7V. Woo-Hoo !! | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:51:19 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SPAD question Message-ID: <4e.3a8170d.29512267@aol.com> In a message dated 18/12/01 2:10:46 pm, John_Impenna@hyperion.com writes: << Which tips does the 1/28th Revell kit have?? >> 28 scale is round repeat: round so it's over to the styrene rack! kenneth, fondling things 28 (hard to layoff that one, ain't it??!?!?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:52:06 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD91A@MIMHEXCH1> Diego says: > Ace, cobber! and > That's a ripper! I'm always in the mood for a few middies! > we'll leave the place full of dead marines. > cheerio! Where does he get it? Sounds like a wasted lifetime watching movies from the 1950's. Or Nino Cullotta, maybe. :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:54:54 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: The People, Yes. -By Carl Sandburg Message-ID: <139.6773a0a.2951233e@aol.com> In a message dated 18/12/01 1:34:08 pm, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes: << An interesting kit is worth a build regardless of scale. >> And interesting old aged eyesight is worth $#$@#%^%, regardless of scale.... Churlish in the Rest Home- Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:56:25 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: In a message dated 18/12/01 2:54:49 pm, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Where does he get it? >> great stuff tho' ain't it???? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:58:47 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD91B@MIMHEXCH1> Shane tY says: > Ummm this poll reminds me of the polls in Yes Minister/Yes Prime > Minister or in fact any poll done these days ;-þ > > This poll seems to be preaching to the choir ie: it just confirms HS > target audience > Ahhhh, grasshopper. Such wisdom in one so young. Just what I was thinking. Hyperscale is okay for 10 minutes diversion but hardly representative of any part of the modelling fraternity other than Hyperscale itself No scale wars for me. I like pulling Matts chain, but the great drought is still fresh in my mind to do anything but applaud *any* WW1 model release. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:01:47 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Update to the AFV BBQ site... Message-ID: As far as I know about this kit is that there is a box lid. it has a photo of the A7V on it. Also read that someone has seen the sprues for this kit too. But not in the shops yet.. | And I see the newest ads in the model mags for Squadron list an Emhar 1/72 | A7V. Woo-Hoo !! Oh yeah, Squadron runs ads before the product is out just to get you salivating.. Although sometimes I know these are run when they are "supposed" to be out so it isn't always their fault - but it is good to know it is on the way... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:02:46 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD91C@MIMHEXCH1> Warren > Panzy my A$%!!!! :) > > Well, if I could find some I might like to try, but since > there is this guy > in Omaha that has all of the known unbuilt kits of this scale > and type it > makes it a little hard for me to do now, doesn't it? 8^) Scratchbuild one. Pansy.... Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:04:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD91D@MIMHEXCH1> SP, > Besides, being bi-scalar I can enjoy a good 1/72 kit and > needle Bittner too. The best of all worlds. We need a new list button with this motto on it Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:05:41 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Some of The People Have Spoken ...at Hyperscale. Message-ID: <129.98f678a.295125c5@aol.com> Shane writes: << I like pulling Matts chain, but the great drought is still fresh in my mind to do anything but applaud *any* WW1 model release. >> am all over that one. for all the reasons we just been tawkin bout, LO, these past few weeks.... and yes, Shane I am joking *and* serious, hopefully clear, in event. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:13:22 -0500 From: "hoot see" To: "wwi-list" Subject: re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman Message-ID: <00e301c18819$b8261cf0$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Mark, You said: "The illustration below depicts the installation of a synchronised Lewis Machine Gun.... This system, called the "Alkan Gear", was developed by sergant Alkan of the French Air Service and was used on a few early Nieuport it's before being replaced with the more reliable vickers synchronisation gear" Yea I know that last part is kinda screwed up, but that's how it reads... honest" I am not quite sure I understand what you mean by "screwed up". Harry Woodman says that the Alkan gear was not very reliable, and was not used much. Also, the Hazelton fix changed the Lewis innards almost into a Vickers, so perhaps that got corrupted in translation into vickers sync gear. regards Sanjeev ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:33:31 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Kodak moments for the teens Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD91E@MIMHEXCH1> RK > A question- many MANY years ago, while sitting in a doctor's > waiting room, I > was leafing through a magazine that had a feature on actual > WW I color photos > taken in the trenches. I haven't run into any of these since- > nothing but the > airplane stuff from Hurley. Might these have also been > Hurley's work? Who > else was doing early color work? Possibly. I saw an exhibition of his work at the State Library a year or so ago which included at least one Paget process colour pic taken in the trenches in France. HOWEVER - both as art and reportage, Hurleys WW1 Black&White stuff is magnificent. For all that, he also stirred up passionate argument in art and historic circles over his production of several composite photos intended to show what trench warfare was like, in a way that cameras of the day couldn't acheive. Charles Bean (the Official Historian) was very much against this, insisting on prints straight from single negs, but the AWM nevertheless now has some of the composites in its archives (for example AWM E05988B, seen in this link) http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/official_photo.htm or at the state library of New South Wales.... http://www.slnsw.gov.au/exhib/shifting/6.htm Can't find the colour ones on line though .... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:39:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: MisterKit Paints Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD91F@MIMHEXCH1> Matt mentions: > Do people on the list know that MisterKit has released new > paints? They're within the A-H and German lines, and at > least in the German side include such things as Jasta 10 > Yellow, Jasta 11 Red, Pfalz Silbergrau, etc. More ammo for the colour police Nazis. I'm assuming that Misterkits Jasta colours are educated guesses, which is nice for those of us without references to study, but I predict that there will be judges (not worthy of their position) who will now deem models painted with other than these "authentic" colours as inaccurate. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:43:19 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: MisterKit Paints Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD920@MIMHEXCH1> Warren, > These sound good. I bought a bottle of Fokker green/olive to > use in my F.1. > If that turns out well, I will defiantely buy more in this > line. Do you > think that the Pfalz Silbergrau would work for the silpfer > doped paint on a really pfine Nieuport? :) Nope. Nieuport used aluminium powder loaded dope. Silbergrau was light grey dope with aluminium powder in it. Having said that, you can do what you want, but this is one of those things where using different colours is both historically accurate and easy to do. Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:44:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Ardpol DH9 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD921@MIMHEXCH1> Ross says: > Leave my visa card alone.. I will have to put the DH9 on the > list of "I > really want to buy this kit, but it will have to wait." ;-) We all have one of those. Thank God that multi gigabit disk drives are cheap enough to fit lists that long Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:54:25 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Ardpol DH9 Message-ID: <018201c1881f$54e14e20$800dcecb@umber> My list is getting longer.. I am at the NKR site looking at the A-Model Spad S.A.4 & Spad S.A.2 and think will they ever get built if I buy them... Why are we cursed with this "I must have that kit" till we have 1000s of unbuilt kits.. ????? Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Ardpol DH9 | Ross says: | | | > Leave my visa card alone.. I will have to put the DH9 on the | > list of "I | > really want to buy this kit, but it will have to wait." ;-) | | We all have one of those. Thank God that multi gigabit disk drives are cheap | enough to fit lists that long | | Shane | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > | | | ********************************************************************** | The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is | intended only for the use of the addressee(s). | If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or | copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to | forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the | MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. | | e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au | phone: Australia 1800500646 | International ++61 7 38338042 | ********************************************************************** | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:16:59 -0600 From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <3C1FDC7B.2000004@sprintmail.com> Shane Weier wrote: >No scale wars for me. I like pulling Matts chain, but the great drought is >still fresh in my mind to do anything but applaud *any* WW1 model release. > I agree. While I really enjoy ribbing the 1/48th crowd, anything released WW1-wise is most welcome. Plus, 1/48th on topic is the only 1/48th I look at at contests... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:55:28 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <000d01c18827$dacdb160$563eea41@s0024008072> > Grzes! > > Someone must compose special theme for our ScaleWars! > > Pity that Diego only draws, not compose... > > You have far too many expectations about me! > D. > I nominate John Phillip Souza's 'Liberty Bell March' (aka the Monty Python theme). DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:59:58 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: SPAD VII was: Re: [The people have spoken Message-ID: <004901c18828$7b6a06a0$563eea41@s0024008072> > Todd- > Can you tell me more about the JMGT kit? Am unaware of that kit or what those > 4 letters stand for. I have built 2 BM Spad 7's and am happy enough with them > (he has done better kits...). More on JMGT? > > tia > Ken Having built this kit, I have to say that it is really ver nice - pricey and hard to find, but has an awesome decal sheet of high quality. Superb resin castings, and quite a bit of detail. My only problem was that the lower wings are a bit warped, but not too much to trash the kit. I'll fix mine back up (damaged in the move to Auburn) and have pics up. Of course, I did Guynemer's machine. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:03:27 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: PS.7 Update Message-ID: <000d01c18828$f8556560$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> I have added some more text & photos to my PS.7 on-line scratchbuild. It is how I made the wire pinned bamboo mainplane struts. sp http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/ps7.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:11:46 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: PS.7 Update Message-ID: <01fa01c1882a$26012de0$800dcecb@umber> Hi SP, Thanks for the update mate. Speaking about bamboo, I picked up a set of cop sticks the other night when we were out to dinner. I have never been able to master them. So maybe I can use them for making struts with. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: [WWI] PS.7 Update | I have added some more text & photos to my PS.7 on-line scratchbuild. | | It is how I made the wire pinned bamboo mainplane struts. | | sp | | http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/ps7.htm | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:23:09 -0600 From: "Dave Burke" To: Subject: Gotha Update Message-ID: <001501c1882b$b8a3d340$563eea41@s0024008072> I was just looking at the pics that Allan put on the website awhiles back of the scratchbuilt Gotha GVb, and the one that collects dust on a bookshelf, up above the realm of Cats. There is a major difference in their appearances - mainly because the photos were taken before the lower wings crapped out. They are laminated styrene with piano wire spars in them - somehow they reversed their airfoil so now it is an inverted wing! So - I'M GONNA HAVE TO RIP THE WINGS OFF OF THIS THING and scratchbuild some new ones. Any suggestions as to how I can avoid this MINOR INCONVENIENCE in the future? I reckon that I still have most of the parts in one place (bombs, bombracks, guns, etc). So once I DISMEMBER the LITTLE DARLING, I should be able to do the 'big push' to complete (oh mommy, please make it GO AWAY!!) it. It is one of two that have been sitting for so long. Then it's off to do that 1/28 Fokker D.VII (with all of the corrections) as Rudi Stark's machine. Later DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:19:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Gotha Update Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD922@MIMHEXCH1> Dave > They are laminated styrene with piano wire > spars in them - > somehow they reversed their airfoil so now it is an inverted > wing! So - I'M > GONNA HAVE TO RIP THE WINGS OFF OF THIS THING and > scratchbuild some new > ones. Any suggestions as to how I can avoid this MINOR > INCONVENIENCE in the future? Yikes. Not something I've ever had happen, but I'm a strict adherent to St Harry's Gospel. Remind us just how they were made, and maybe we can brainstorm a variation to prevent it happening again Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3990 **********************