WWI Digest 3987 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: My absence was justified by "Diego Fernetti" 2) Re: Painting Props by "Fraser May" 3) Copperstate in Australia by "Tony Mollica" 4) RE: Copperstate in Australia by "Diego Fernetti" 5) RE: Squadron and Roden by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 6) RE: Copperstate in Australia by Crawford Neil 7) RE: Copperstate in Australia by "Fraser May" 8) Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, by Crawford Neil 9) The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 10) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Diego Fernetti" 11) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 12) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by KnnthS@aol.com 13) Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten_=2808=29?= 14) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 15) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 16) Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 17) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 18) Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, by Crawford Neil 19) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Lee M." 20) Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, by "Ross Moorhouse" 21) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Diego Fernetti" 22) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 23) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Diego Fernetti" 24) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by tbittners@sprintmail.com 25) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by tbittners@sprintmail.com 26) RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 27) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by "ibs4421" 28) re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman by Sanjeev Hirve 29) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by tbittners@sprintmail.com 30) Re: The short people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by KnnthS@aol.com 31) re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman by "ibs4421" 32) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by KnnthS@aol.com 33) Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 34) Bob Laskodi's Latest by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:19:34 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: My absence was justified Message-ID: <012c01c187ad$7d707ae0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Welcome back, Burke! Always a pleasure to have you here! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:22:26 +0100 From: "Fraser May" To: Subject: Re: Painting Props Message-ID: <001c01c187ae$2b221e00$497914d4@m1i9c9> Neil, Here's a somewhat arty farty method I'm trying out and so far it's looking good. Basically I approach it the same as if I was painting a picture of a prop - or a prop inna picture.. I spray the prop flat white, which gives a good bright surface with some tooth to hold the paint. then I start glazing using artists watercolours and bit of future with the mixing water(say 50/50 or thereabouts) to make it waterproof. Then I just add layers of burnt sienna and (real) raw sienna which is very transparent and a really nice warm tan. you get good depth and a nice sheen. HTW Fraser ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:44:02 From: "Tony Mollica" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Copperstate in Australia Message-ID: I think I must have been in the same shop as Neil last Friday, saw the Copperstate kit, then quickly got distracted by a couple of cheapish Eduards. I somehow didn't buy them, but of course they played on my mind over the weekend. Went back during my lunch hour on Monday, but they were *gone*. How many times has this happened ? I had to drown my sorrows with an Eduard Nieuport 23 and some old Blue Rider decals for 'The Easter Egg Spad'. Oh, and the Eagle Strike 1/48 Fokker DVII sheet. Damn, I was really looking for a bargain !!! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:57:49 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Copperstate in Australia Message-ID: <016b01c187b2$d5a9fba0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Tony wrote: > Went back during my lunch hour on Monday, but they were > *gone*. How many times has this happened ? The well known "maybelateris" syndrome. It's hard to resist. It manifest itself disguised as the voice of conscience, telling you that with money for a single Naglo Quadruplane kit you can feed a hungry biafran mercenary. Then you walk away, thinking that you saved your money and your soul, but it grows inside you and then you return always late to recover the lost kit or book, and the result is that you spend more money than just buying your first choice. I guess that's a curse that hobby shop/bookstore owners cast upon us clients... D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:34:16 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: Subject: RE: Squadron and Roden Message-ID: Shane: "...New Roden is more accurate if the box art reflects the shape of the plastic parts...." Shouldn't there be a smiley in there somewhere? ;) cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:38:49 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Copperstate in Australia Message-ID: Yeah, just been through all this with that blasted Junkers G24, ended up paying twice the original figure. Still happy, so who cares! /Neil C. > The well known "maybelateris" syndrome. It's hard to resist. > It manifest > itself disguised as the voice of conscience, telling you that > with money for > a single Naglo Quadruplane kit you can feed a hungry biafran > mercenary. Then > you walk away, thinking that you saved your money and your > soul, but it > grows inside you and then you return always late to recover > the lost kit or > book, and the result is that you spend more money than just > buying your > first choice. > I guess that's a curse that hobby shop/bookstore owners cast upon us > clients... > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:08:10 +0100 From: "Fraser May" To: Subject: RE: Copperstate in Australia Message-ID: <001601c187bc$bea0dfa0$d26914d4@m1i9c9> Ahh Grasshoppah, Buddah say craving is origin of all suffering- So when yousee it and you want it...buy it, make excuses, avoid sufferng....simple...works for me ...til the Mastercard invoice thuds to the floor like a phone book... :~) F. Diego wrote > The well known "maybelateris" syndrome. It's hard to resist. It manifest ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:31:26 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, Message-ID: Neil E wrote: One guy > in my club has > about 800 kits of different vintages. From what he's told me he builds > about four kits a year. He is fifty six years old. Is he a > builder or a > collector? > No, because that would make me a collector too! /Neil C. (200 kits, 46 years old, and 2 built per year) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:37:00 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <002601c187c0$b30b0900$8012cecb@umber> There are some on the list that will be most upset by some of the poll results. ;-) The one I would like the bring up here is the "Preferred Scale" I was very surprised by the results.. and here they are.. 2,053 modellers indicated their preference of scale: 1/48 = 1496 votes 1/72 = 377 votes All I can say is that I like both scales... http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/wishlist2002resultsbg_1.htm#Modelling%20P references for the rest of the polls and votes... Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:47:55 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <01e201c187c2$36fadd20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I like these results! Once more, this confirm us as members of an elite... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse > 1/48 = 1496 votes > 1/72 = 377 votes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:44:54 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <003901c187ca$2d8e2b40$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> > 1/48 = 1496 votes > 1/72 = 377 votes When I had Latin classes during college, we used to learn grammar by short sentences, like old sayings. One of these sentences was "Pauci, sed boni" (is translation needed?). Running for cover Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:46:48 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <11b.8b1d5fd.295094b8@aol.com> In a message dated 18/12/01 4:38:47 am, rossm@matrixgames.com writes: << I was very surprised by the results.. and here they are.. >> How many people surveyed preferred surveys? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:50:01 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten_=2808=29?= To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, Message-ID: On our annual Xmas meet at our local IPMS group we were visited by a "real" collector. I am not sure if build anything, I think he does. Anyway he has +4000 kits at home. He´s even made an entiarly house for them. Apparently after some heavy pushing from his SHMBO. - Eighter they move or I will ! - Mårten (younger than Neil C, more kids, more kits and slightly more rapid build phase too.) -----Original Message----- From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] Sent: den 18 december 2001 13:34 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, Neil E wrote: One guy > in my club has > about 800 kits of different vintages. From what he's told me he builds > about four kits a year. He is fifty six years old. Is he a > builder or a > collector? > No, because that would make me a collector too! /Neil C. (200 kits, 46 years old, and 2 built per year) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:56:03 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <3C1F3CE3.F7B699B0@tac.com.au> Diego Fernetti wrote: > > I like these results! > Once more, this confirm us as members of an elite... Well spoken there matey - that makes you an honourary Aussie ;-) StY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:52:58 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <004801c187c2$f34560e0$8012cecb@umber> If you do the survey you will then notice that the survey is about surveys by people who do surveys for people to be surveyed.. Ross out of breath from that one.. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:48 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. | | In a message dated 18/12/01 4:38:47 am, rossm@matrixgames.com writes: | | << I was very surprised by the results.. and here they are.. >> | | How many people surveyed preferred surveys? | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:58:54 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, Message-ID: <3C1F3D8E.36AC14F2@tac.com.au> Hi Shane > These are the type of folk I was asking my countrymen about. I don't think > they understood, because the descriptions of the collectors they gave just > don't fit. Ahh they're the collector who buys on speculation & tries to gouge you on the price on a kit that's just gone out of production for example - we have those in spades here in Sydney. OTOH, we also have the true collector who is trying to own every kit that's been produced & sometimes will give away kits for a good cause ;-) > > The folks I spoke of, and I have met several over the years, will let > > you know if they have a kit you need. When you start talking about > > price, it will be at least 3 to 5 times more than the normal rate. Yup have those here - in fact one's a trader that you know - he's been to the QMHE a few times as well ;-) > I'd love to meet one of these dreamers. As mild and inoffensive as I am > , I suspect that my answer would be just slightly impolite. cough, splutter - not while I'm drinking mate ;-) StY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:59:22 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <003a01c187cc$32edadc0$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> > If you do the survey you will then notice that the survey is > about surveys > by people who do surveys for people to be surveyed.. The Brazilian journalistic folklore speaks about a newspaper headline years ago which says: "Poll says people don't believe in polls" All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:59:21 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, Message-ID: > Mårten > (younger than Neil C, more kids, more kits and slightly more > rapid build phase too.) > Well I have more cylinders on my motorbike, (even if you count both of yours) and more cats. But I must admit that I was rather impressed by your kit collection, a good deal of it was OT too. I do have an important "less" though, less unfinished projects! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:02:57 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <3C1F3E81.1DB7E462@x25.net> In spite of comments by Matt, it is obvious what makes the plastic world run. the correct Scale 1/48th...It keeps the companies in money so they can fool around with the slow moving "other" scales. Lee M New Braunfels, Tx Ross Moorhouse wrote: > There are some on the list that will be most upset by some of the poll > results. ;-) The one I would like the bring up here is the "Preferred > Scale" > > I was very surprised by the results.. and here they are.. > > 2,053 modellers indicated their preference of scale: > > 1/48 = 1496 votes > 1/72 = 377 votes > > All I can say is that I like both scales... > > http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/wishlist2002resultsbg_1.htm#Modelling%20P > references for the rest of the polls and votes... > > Cheers > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:04:07 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, Message-ID: <005c01c187c4$7dc3ac80$8012cecb@umber> At Neil C.... My bike can carry more people than yours.. Its got a sidecar... :-) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:01 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Availability of Eduard releases was:: Ho, Ho, ho, | > Mårten | > (younger than Neil C, more kids, more kits and slightly more | > rapid build phase too.) | > | | Well I have more cylinders on my motorbike, (even if you count | both of yours) and more cats. But I must admit that I was | rather impressed by your kit collection, a good deal of it was OT too. | I do have an important "less" though, less unfinished projects! | /Neil C. | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:15:57 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <021201c187c6$219e9580$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Shane wrote: > that makes you an honourary Aussie ;-) Ace, cobber! D. honorary Dave honorary Aussie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:16:11 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <006601c187c6$352cfe20$8012cecb@umber> Struth china, if yas ever come down ere we might ave to kook a burra or too for ya.. So how they hanging?? Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:10 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. | Shane wrote: | > that makes you an honourary Aussie ;-) | | Ace, cobber! | D. | honorary Dave | honorary Aussie | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:34:54 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <024301c187c8$c6efd560$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> That's a ripper! I'm always in the mood for a few middies! we'll leave the place full of dead marines. cheerio! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse > Struth china, if yas ever come down ere we might ave to kook a burra or too > for ya.. > > So how they hanging?? > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:36:55 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <20011218133655.CEECB467F6@eclipse.qis.net> --NewMail73c1f4677c289f Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit One thing Ross failed to mention. In the "Favorite Kit" category, down a ways (almost to the bottom) is listed the Eduard Albatros D.V. I don't recall if anything on topic made it on the Balloon Scale list... However, I was dissappointed to see that the SPADs never made it to the "Most Wanted" list . :-) And one thing Lee mentioned which is true. Us who build in the other, proper scale have the masses to thank for all the good stuff we have. Usually with a mob mentality, people just follow each other like lemmings...that is definitely true IRT 1/48th. ;-) Us 1/72nd builders are standing off to the side, watching the lemmings fall off the cliff... Matt Bittner --NewMail73c1f4677c289f Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="" --NewMail73c1f4677c289f-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:37:13 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <20011218133713.B355B467F6@eclipse.qis.net> --NewMail73c1f4689a626a Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit One thing Ross failed to mention. In the "Favorite Kit" category, down a ways (almost to the bottom) is listed the Eduard Albatros D.V. I don't recall if anything on topic made it on the Balloon Scale list... However, I was dissappointed to see that the SPADs never made it to the "Most Wanted" list . :-) And one thing Lee mentioned which is true. Us who build in the other, proper scale have the masses to thank for all the good stuff we have. Usually with a mob mentality, people just follow each other like lemmings...that is definitely true IRT 1/48th. ;-) Us 1/72nd builders are standing off to the side, watching the lemmings fall off the cliff... Matt Bittner --NewMail73c1f4689a626a Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="" --NewMail73c1f4689a626a-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:43:08 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <009b01c187c9$f0ce1b20$8012cecb@umber> I didnt fail to mention it. I put a link to the full Poll results to let all the others go and see for themselves.. I believe that Eduard was 5th fav producer too. Also note I sit on the fence with scales. I will build in either. :) Depends n what kit is there and what aircraft it is.. Cheers Ross not getting to close to the cliff I hope... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:39 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. | | --NewMail73c1f4689a626a | Content-Type: text/plain | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit | | One thing Ross failed to mention. In the "Favorite Kit" category, down a ways (almost to the bottom) is listed the Eduard Albatros D.V. I don't recall if anything on topic made it on the Balloon Scale list... | | However, I was dissappointed to see that the SPADs never made it to the "Most Wanted" list . :-) | | And one thing Lee mentioned which is true. Us who build in the other, proper scale have the masses to thank for all the good stuff we have. Usually with a mob mentality, people just follow each other like lemmings...that is definitely true IRT 1/48th. ;-) | | Us 1/72nd builders are standing off to the side, watching the lemmings fall off the cliff... | | | Matt Bittner | | --NewMail73c1f4689a626a | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; | name="" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 | Content-Disposition: attachment; | filename="" | | | --NewMail73c1f4689a626a-- | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:55:42 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <007101c187cb$afb3edc0$133dfad1@ibs4421> Or maybe folks who build 1/48th scale like taking surveys. Since there are fewer OT kits in 1/48th scale than in 1/72nd, it is only logical that the 1/48th scale crowd has more time for such wasted time as surveys. Those of us who build in 1/72nd scale have no time for such silliness. We have enough confidence that we do not need surveys to make us feel good about ourselves. 8^) Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:14:58 -0500 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01CABD@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Thanks for all the answers, but my questions were not answered. So I looked around and hit a gold mine in Harry Woodman's "Early Aircraft Armament". This book has a full chapter on Gun synching. In brief, this is what I found: - the problem with Lewis is not gas operation itself, but the fact that it fires from the "open bolt position" (my words). When the trigger is pulled, the bolt travels forward, chambers the round and the striker hits the primer. The time from trigger break to firing of round is too long and quite variable. Inconsistent ammo made matters worse. This variability was the problem. Harry Woodman describes 2 modifications to the Lewis to overcome this problem. Alkan of France, designed a mechanism that was powered by the engine, and used cams to cycle the action as well as to break the trigger, in effect, completely ignoring the original gas operation, and creating a true machine-operated MG. Hazelton of UK, modified the action to be very similar to the Vickers. In effect, with minimal changes he converted it to a closed bolt operation (my words), ie, in the "cocked" position, the round was already chambered, bolt in battery, and the firing pin was only 1/4 inch from the head of the cartridge. The Hazelton mechanism was used on Sopwith Babies and some other craft. Awesome book. Wish I could buy it. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:16:39 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <20011218141639.E8CD8467F6@eclipse.qis.net> --NewMail73c1f4fc7d6c00 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:56:15 -0500 (EST), ibs4421 wrote: > Or maybe folks who build 1/48th scale like taking surveys. Since there are > fewer OT kits in 1/48th scale than in 1/72nd, it is only logical that the > 1/48th scale crowd has more time for such wasted time as surveys. Those of > us who build in 1/72nd scale have no time for such silliness. We have > enough confidence that we do not need surveys to make us feel good about > ourselves. 8^) Excellent! Warren now becomes vice-president of the Proper Scale Builders Society. ;-) Matt Bittner p.s. Sorry for the MIME/HTML. The "free service" I can used in my firewalled environment changed on me, and until I can install my own email client, I'm forced to deal with this. --NewMail73c1f4fc7d6c00 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="" --NewMail73c1f4fc7d6c00-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:17:09 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The short people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <174.f328ea.2950a9e5@aol.com> In a message dated 18/12/01 5:14:56 am, rossm@matrixgames.com writes: << if you do the survey you will then notice that the survey is about surveys by people who do surveys for people to be surveyed.. >> I think the 72nders wuz just too tiny, teetering to tabletop to tabulate their totals-probably a horde of 'em biting and hacking @ everyone's ankles as we, um, speak. Yours- Randy Newman, keeping score (in dead marines, apparently) ps-"phhht" to D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:33:52 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: re:Lewis MG qn and Harry Woodman Message-ID: <00c001c187d1$04c7c480$133dfad1@ibs4421> but the fact that it > fires from the "open bolt position" (my words). Sanjeev, That is, indeed, the correct terminology for what you describe. I know some on the list who have worked with the M60 will remember this from their taining days. "Never close the cover with the bolt to the rear!" To make this OT, my favorite bit of training at Ft. Benning's US Army Infantry School was the infiltration course. For those that have not been there, they put you in a trench, put four or five M60 mg's firing several feet off the ground down range, and at night so the tracers look pretty, and you can't tell just "how high" up they are or are not because it is night time. The training NCO blows a whistle, and it's OVER THE TOP! crawling through the wire, muck, and some realy awesome ground charges showereing you with mud, etc. It makes some guys nervous/sick enough they throw up. Quite an OT rush for those of us in the platoon that knew enough of history to appreciate the moment. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:32:46 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <163.5cf7e42.2950ad8e@aol.com> In a message dated 18/12/01 5:56:58 am, ibs4421@commandnet.net writes: << Those of us who build in 1/72nd scale >> Perhaps....but, Warren, in spite of Master Bittner's favors, you've......diminished in my estimation..... ducking into a larger scale cloud- Hy Perscale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:08:58 +1100 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The people have spoken ... Polls at Hyperscale.. Message-ID: <3C1F3FEA.C1EDCF04@tac.com.au> Ross Moorhouse wrote: > > There are some on the list that will be most upset by some of the poll > results. ;-) The one I would like the bring up here is the "Preferred > Scale" > > I was very surprised by the results.. and here they are.. > > 2,053 modellers indicated their preference of scale: > > 1/48 = 1496 votes > 1/72 = 377 votes > > All I can say is that I like both scales... > > http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/wishlist2002resultsbg_1.htm#Modelling%20P > references for the rest of the polls and votes... Ummm this poll reminds me of the polls in Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister or in fact any poll done these days ;-þ This poll seems to be preaching to the choir ie: it just confirms HS target audience StY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:05:53 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: WWI Subject: Bob Laskodi's Latest Message-ID: <200112181505.KAA58625@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Bob's latest masterpiece has been uploaded to the website. Enjoy! Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3987 **********************