WWI Digest 3968 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Hotmail and .NET by "Diego Fernetti" 2) RE: Update in my site by "Diego Fernetti" 3) Re: Ray Rimell was:RE: datafile by "Diego Fernetti" 4) Re: e-bay shipping charges by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 5) RE: Holy Cow! New Fokker D.VII by "Diego Fernetti" 6) RE: about fascism was RE: RE: Rene Fonck by PolTexCW@aol.com 7) RE: Holy Cow! New Fokker D.VII by tbittners@sprintmail.com 8) Photo Etch wheels by Sanjeev Hirve 9) RE: about fascism etc. by "Michael Kendix" 10) new nieuports? by "Diego Fernetti" 11) Re: new nieuports? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 12) RE: about fascism etc. by "ibs4421" 13) re: new nieuports? by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 14) Re: new nieuports? by "Diego Fernetti" 15) re: new nieuports? by "Diego Fernetti" 16) RE: about fascism etc. by tbittners@sprintmail.com 17) re: new nieuports? by tbittners@sprintmail.com 18) re: new nieuports? by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 19) The Choice #3577 by "Kurt Edwards" 20) RE: about fascism etc. by "ibs4421" 21) RE: about fascism etc. by tbittners@sprintmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:56:06 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hotmail and .NET Message-ID: Strangely enough, the account keeps active and receiving Emails from the list. Even my foolish stuff. D. from Hotmail >From: Allan Wright >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Hotmail and .NET >Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:01:35 -0500 (EST) > >.NET strikes again...... > >The following errors got people bounced: > >554 ... Service unavailable >451 ... reply: read error from mx15.hotmail.com. >... Deferred > >Sorry, >Allan > >=============================================================================== >Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - >Southside >University of New Hampshire >+-------------------------------------------------- >Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org >Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: >http://www.wwi-models.org >=============================================================================== _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:08:27 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Update in my site Message-ID: <006901c18337$ff817a40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Marcio! > I hope you like them! Pay special attention to the Spad VII in Brazilian > markings! One day I'll build this one! Very interesting! The brazilian Spad looks OK, and perhaps much better than an argie Spad, since they were just plain OD or plain battleship gray. Oh, and the roundels. :-p The only exciting OT argie airplane was the Nieuport 28 that tried to cross the Andes in 1919: overall red. However it got smashed into the mountains so the fun didn't lasted long.... D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:18:33 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: Ray Rimell was:RE: datafile Message-ID: <008101c18339$69208d00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I'm the biped, short-sighted, carbon-based form of life posing like an idiot for the camera. D. PS: Now I remember that the day the picture was taken was so windy that the guy sitting inside the glider was balancing the wings with the ailerons while on the ground. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Thompson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Ray Rimell was:RE: datafile > I was unclear if the Diego in the picture was the biped or the one with the > wings. But then, at that point in the day I probably had not drunk enough > coffee. > > Paul. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:14:06 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: e-bay shipping charges Message-ID: <125.8f7f311.2948f86e@aol.com> --part1_125.8f7f311.2948f86e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/11/2001 10:22:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, plesha3@home.com writes: > Hi All- > Just thought I would pass on some info. A person listed an Eduard 1/48 > AlbD.V on e-bay and noted a small shipping and handling charge. Before > bidding I sent a note asking what a small shipping and handling charge was > in the U.S. > He wrote back $9.75 that he would round up to $10.00. > You might want to ask before bidding, thats outrageous! When most of the > time its about $4.00-$6.00 US within the US. > I just bought one in Canada with $6.00 shipping and handling! > Later > Tom > > Right you are Tom, look closely and most sellers shrewdly forget to list their shipping charges these days, it's a backdoor way of getting a few extra bucks for whatever they sell. I got caught by this just last week as it was a last minute find for me and after I won I managed to contact the seller, he wanted $7.00 for a simple 1/72 OT Vac kit so I balked and showed him a dozen items the same size shipped for under $4.00 he then reduced it to the normal $4.00. I have always email a seller who has something I'm really interested in and discuss all S&H charges before hand, I just got caught out this one time Best Regards, Jon --part1_125.8f7f311.2948f86e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/11/2001 10:22:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, plesha3@home.com writes:


Hi All-
Just thought I would pass on some info.  A person listed an Eduard 1/48
AlbD.V on e-bay and noted a small shipping and handling charge.  Before
bidding I sent a note asking what a small shipping and handling charge was
in the U.S.
He wrote back $9.75 that he would round up to $10.00.
You might want to ask before bidding, thats outrageous! When most of the
time its about $4.00-$6.00 US within the US.
I just bought one in Canada with $6.00 shipping and handling!
Later
Tom



Right you are Tom, look closely and most sellers shrewdly forget to list their shipping charges these days, it's a backdoor way of getting a few extra bucks for whatever they sell. I got caught by this just last week as it was a last minute find for me and after I won I managed to contact the seller, he wanted $7.00 for a simple 1/72 OT Vac kit so I balked and showed him a dozen items the same size shipped for under $4.00 he then reduced it to the normal $4.00. I have always email a seller who has something I'm really interested in and discuss all S&H charges before hand, I just got caught out this one time
                                                        
Best Regards,

Jon 


             

--part1_125.8f7f311.2948f86e_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:27:53 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Holy Cow! New Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <009b01c1833a$b6a20da0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt! > Well, I doubt anybody else will do Hanriots, since Eduard has announced them, but I do agree with you on all points. There's 2 manufacturers that make Sopwith strutters 2 manufacturers that make Pfalz D.IIIs and D.IIIas 3 manufacturers that make Fokker D.VIIs 4 manufacturers that make Fokker triplanes So more brands making Hanriots is so far fetched? :-) Same goes for Brisfits, BE2s, etc. etc. > >Only the Toko N11 is easily obtainable. > But still inaccurate... Until the rosemont correction set is available! D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:28:04 EST From: PolTexCW@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: about fascism was RE: RE: Rene Fonck Message-ID: In a message dated 12/12/1 4:14:10 AM, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: << If you read what you are answering more carefully Gaston, you would see that it doesn't say Nazi about Richthofen, it says fascist. We will never know if Richthofen would have become a Nazi, but after reading his book, my personal opinion is that he was certainly very far to the right. >> This mis-use of terminology is rather annoying. A Nazi was a member of the National Socialist German Workers Party, a Fascist was a member of a somewhat similiar but not identical political movement in Italy. One term does not equal the other. Both however, incorporated elements of socialism and were - contrary to common usage - left wing political movements with great similiarities to the regime in the then Soviet Union. Lumping all anti-communist left wing movements (including Trotskiyism for God's sake!) together as "Right wing" is logically obsurd. This usage was originated by the Comintern and unfortunately has become common but incorrect usage. If some sort of generic term is needed for all these movements (Nazi, Fascist, Communist) Perhaps something like "brutal, socialist dictatorships" might be appropriate. John Biskupski ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:31:42 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Holy Cow! New Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <20011212183142.E266346834@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:23:13 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: >There's >2 manufacturers that make Sopwith strutters >2 manufacturers that make Pfalz D.IIIs and D.IIIas >3 manufacturers that make Fokker D.VIIs >4 manufacturers that make Fokker triplanes > >So more brands making Hanriots is so far fetched? :-) Same goes for >Brisfits, BE2s, etc. etc. Okay, fine. Use logic against me. :-) >Until the rosemont correction set is available! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:38:01 -0500 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: Photo Etch wheels Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01CA73@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> I am looking for advice and tips on fabricating wheels (1:48) from the Fotocut photo-Etch set. My problem is as follows. The PE parts make up part of the wheel's tire, without giving it a round cross-section. This means that I have to somehow "fatten" the rim. I have to be able to do this without bending the delicate spokes. Thanks in advance SSH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:43:09 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: about fascism etc. Message-ID: >This mis-use of terminology is rather annoying. A Nazi was a member >of >the National Socialist German Workers Party, a Fascist was a member >of a >somewhat similiar but not identical political movement in Italy. etc., >etc....[snip] Hardly the first posting in this vein; enough already folks. I am not interested in defining political terms or engaging in political discussions - there are loads of lists that do that and that's fine. Let's just stick to modelling, which produces enough rancour. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:52:03 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: new nieuports? Message-ID: <00e501c1833e$16e37160$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > What's up? Any news of this set? Would barry consider to release a full 1/72 kit of a Nieuport 24? The joystick vac can be get from here and there, but it's expensive for the medium on wich it is made. Maybe a Rosemont 24 made of vac styrene and resin details, like the Caudron? What's next on Barry's kitchen? D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:50:28 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: new nieuports? Message-ID: <20011212185028.D5584467CB@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:46:43 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: >What's up? Any news of this set? Not yet, unfortunately. >Would barry consider to release a full 1/72 kit of a Nieuport 24? The >joystick vac can be get from here and there, but it's expensive for the >medium on wich it is made. Maybe a Rosemont 24 made of vac styrene and resin >details, like the Caudron? That would be nice, but I doubt he'll do it. Two others have just been released, the Luedemann and the Choroszy. Sure, the C is probably more expensive than any Rosemont kit, but it's still available (although I haven't seen it yet - same goes for the L one as well). >What's next on Barry's kitchen? Time will tell... Such a cry - we need more 1/72nd Nieuport kits!!! (To go along with the dozen or so Revell ones I have lying around...) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:53:10 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: RE: about fascism etc. Message-ID: <005e01c1833e$3f26c140$9c3dfad1@ibs4421> Let's just stick > to modelling, which produces enough rancour. > > Michael Michael, Agreed!! However, if I might add, this list seems to have the least amount of rancour of any I have been on in the 2.5 years I've been connected to the web. Undoubtedly the friendliest, and easiest to get along with group of people I have been associated with. Warren PS: somebody give me Eduard's e-mail address, I want to give them an ear-full about needing proper Spads and Nieuports. This will be the start of my tan-tan for Allied planes. Anyone care to join in? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:54:44 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: new nieuports? Message-ID: <00a301c1833e$78886420$0200a8c0@x.pl> Diego! > Would barry consider to release a full 1/72 kit of a Nieuport 24? I'll have Ludemann's Nieu. 24 this week, one for me and one for Matt. Also Choroszy makes it. G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:03:13 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: new nieuports? Message-ID: <000701c1833f$a618b560$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > Such a cry - we need more 1/72nd Nieuport kits!!! (To go along with the dozen or so Revell ones I have lying around...) Lucky b*****d I just have one by Esci. D. Who has a closet full of other unbuilt kits but keeps bitching around for more ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:03:53 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: re: new nieuports? Message-ID: <000d01c1833f$bdf653e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Don't forget to comment on these as soon as you get one D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: [WWI] re: new nieuports? > Diego! > > Would barry consider to release a full 1/72 kit of a Nieuport 24? > I'll have Ludemann's Nieu. 24 this week, one for me and one for Matt. > Also Choroszy makes it. > G. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:57:08 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: about fascism etc. Message-ID: <20011212185708.A4544467C3@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:53:14 -0500 (EST), ibs4421 wrote: >PS: somebody give me Eduard's e-mail address, I want to give them an >ear-full about needing proper Spads and Nieuports. This will be the start >of my tan-tan for Allied planes. Anyone care to join in? I did one better. I talked their ear off at the IPMS/USA Nationals. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:00:15 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: new nieuports? Message-ID: <20011212190015.40420467CB@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:57:36 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: >Don't forget to comment on these as soon as you get one And keep in mind I'm the only one allowed to complain about top wing sweepback!! ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:02:08 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: new nieuports? Message-ID: <00b701c1833f$80c29a60$0200a8c0@x.pl> Sure! G _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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------=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0-- ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:13:59 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: RE: about fascism etc. Message-ID: <008601c18341$280343a0$9c3dfad1@ibs4421> > I did one better. I talked their ear off at the IPMS/USA Nationals. > > > Matt Bittner Matt, Well that's great, and I for one am proud for ya, BUT some of us don't get to go to those events. In either event, my badgering them via e-mail can't hurt the situation can it? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:17:09 -0500 (EST) From: tbittners@sprintmail.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: about fascism etc. Message-ID: <20011212191709.C6867467CB@eclipse.qis.net> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:14:45 -0500 (EST), ibs4421 wrote: > Well that's great, and I for one am proud for ya, BUT some of us >don't get to go to those events. In either event, my badgering them via >e-mail can't hurt the situation can it? We hope not! :-) I don't think it will, especially in this day and age of email filters. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3968 **********************