WWI Digest 3947 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by "Matt Bittner" 2) RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 3) RE: Roden and Eduard was [RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII by Shane Weier 4) RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. by "Magnus" 5) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by Shane Weier 6) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by Sanjeev Hirve 7) Re: Sorry I Found the "Lost Battalion" by "Lee M." 8) RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. by David Fleming 9) RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. by "ibs4421" 10) Re: Paint Bottles by PolTexCW@aol.com 11) Re: Eduard Aalbatros DII profipack by Todd Hayes 12) RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 13) RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue by KarrArt@aol.com 14) RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue by "Lee M." 15) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: 1/72 Mechanic Figure by "bruce simard" 17) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by Shane Weier 18) Palesintian Jasta's by "cameron rile" 19) Re:Palesintian Jasta's/Albatross on Palestine?Help!? by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 20) RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 21) A Quick Note About my E-Mail Address by "Brent Theobald" 22) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by Rory Goodwin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:43:31 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:26:58 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > 1. More aces I bet there are a ton more aces that flew the SPADs alone (although this number is off the top of my head). > 2. Gaudy colour schemes Let's see - French five-color with red stripes running horizontally down the sides of the fuselage, from nose to tail. Nope, can't think if anything more gaudy than that. > 3. Black crosses Ya got me there... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:46:30 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. Message-ID: <00b601c17c4c$792c7540$330dcecb@umber> Well considering there are some list members who like to make full interior that cant be seen as well. But what can be seen these guys do a great job on. Also with the Pup the weave grain on the wings seems a tad over done, so too the control; horns. All things that can be fixed. :) Its still the only 1/72 Pup I know of. Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:39 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. | | > Airfix have re-released the Sopwith Pup. | Incredible interior - it has structure where it cannot be seen, and | where it can, it has nothing. | G. | | | | -- | | Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! | [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:49:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Roden and Eduard was [RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD862@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Cam, > However for > current releases, the Eduard DrI is probably > the best engineered 1:72 model I have built. Aside from the diabolical wing ties I agree on this. The detail is, however, really disappointing. Pics of mine have been sent to Allan, so you can laugh at my 1/72 efforts real soon now Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 23:59:47 +0100 From: "Magnus" To: Subject: RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. Message-ID: <0b6c01c17c4e$34da4e60$648d42d5@magnus> Is there any interest in the Airfix kits? I have a couple collecting dust. Was thinking of filing them in the round archive..... Magnus ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. > Well considering there are some list members who like to make full interior > that cant be seen as well. But what can be seen these guys do a great job > on. > > Also with the Pup the weave grain on the wings seems a tad over done, so too > the control; horns. All things that can be fixed. :) > > Its still the only 1/72 Pup I know of. > > Cheers > > Ross > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:39 AM > Subject: [WWI] RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. > > > | > | > Airfix have re-released the Sopwith Pup. > | Incredible interior - it has structure where it cannot be seen, and > | where it can, it has nothing. > | G. > | > | > | > | -- > | > | Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! > | [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] > | > | > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:59:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD863@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt > > 1. More aces > > I bet there are a ton more aces that flew the SPADs alone (although > this number is off the top of my head). Yeah, but no-one ever heard of them. > > 2. Gaudy colour schemes > > Let's see - French five-color with red stripes running horizontally > down the sides of the fuselage, from nose to tail. Nope, can't think > if anything more gaudy than that. But how *many* variations? If you build German you can make just about any tasteless combination of colours you like. > > 3. Black crosses > > Ya got me there... ;-) And there's the rub. Eduard know how many people want to build every German ace, and how few even knew there *was* a French ace. I'd have thought there'd be a market for SPADs though - because of your countrymens desire to build *their* aces, and though there weren't many of them (compared to Germany/France/UK) there'd surely enough to keep most modellers busy. (Except it occurs to me that the aircraft all look much the same anyway, except for different numbers and a small variety of Squadron markings) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:03:32 -0500 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01CA0F@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> lets see, So far the 1:72 types have a- threatened to chop off fingers b- hoped that others would not notice, c- implicitly threatened to curtail access to the List One has to wonder if they have any substantial arguments in defence of their scalar orientation. Or maybe they are just worried about something? regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 17:54:04 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sorry I Found the "Lost Battalion" Message-ID: <3C0C109C.FAC30D0D@x25.net> If you still want to see it. Try Tuesday 4 Dec. at 7 PM and 11 PM eastern time. Do not know when the next spasm will pop. I did not watch it yet. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX Lance Krieg wrote: > For those of you fortunate enough to have missed this on A&E, dismiss any though of catching it later; I'd rather spend two hours at the dentist. > > Despite the fact that the story takes place in the Argonne in 1918, there was very little OT to be found. > All characters above the rank of major were the usual arrogant nitwits, sending the innocents to the slaughter. > All characters below the rank of major were the usual New York stereotypes; smart-assed hustlers or dreamy immigrant idealists. > There was of course, the requisite sprinkling of ethnicity, including a Chinese, to prove that America is the "melting pot". > All characters of the rank of major looked as though they wished they were elsewhere, as did I. > > The American battalion comander demonstrated his superior military leadership by keeping his tunic buttoned and collecting the identy disks of the dead. > If he had done anything to improve his defensive position, > like digging a hole or two, he wouldn't have had so many dead to keep track of. > Why he chose a position at the bottom of a steep slope, down which the Germans poured regularly, was not explained. > > The cinemgraphic techniques of washed-out colors and hand-held cameras were lifted directly from "Private Ryan", > and here consistently misapplied so one was left with the impression of a black and white home movie shot on a Tilt-a-Whirl. > The nausea that resulted was more a product of motion sickness than the violence portrayed. > > I guess the uniforms were OK, and while I don't know much about period vehicles, these looked to be closer to 1930. > They were, however, muddy. > The sole airplane with any film time was a Stampe pretending to be an SE5. > It featured a WWII disruptive camouflage and French cockades, improperly applied. > The American pilot was killed, but didn't crash the plane. > > I should have watched "The Sopranos" rerun on HBO. > > All IMHO, of course. > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 00:23:01 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. Message-ID: <3C0C1765.E94DB457@dial.pipex.com> Magnus wrote: > Is there any interest in the Airfix kits? I have a couple collecting dust. > Was thinking of filing them in the round archive..... > > Magnus > Depends which kit -the Pup is very nice, as is the HPO/400, the Hannover not too bad, the SPAD, RE8 & Roland the only game in town. I like the 504k, others don't (Diego). The F2B has been bettered, but that kit is not available anymore (Coming from Pegasus) The Camel, DR1 and Albatros are good to practice on. Or are we talking ot ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:11:32 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. Message-ID: <001e01c17c5a$2b1ff4e0$883dfad1@ibs4421> I know that I would like to get a couple of the Pups. Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Magnus" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. > Is there any interest in the Airfix kits? I have a couple collecting dust. > Was thinking of filing them in the round archive..... > > Magnus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ross Moorhouse > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:49 PM > Subject: [WWI] RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. > > > > Well considering there are some list members who like to make full > interior > > that cant be seen as well. But what can be seen these guys do a great job > > on. > > > > Also with the Pup the weave grain on the wings seems a tad over done, so > too > > the control; horns. All things that can be fixed. :) > > > > Its still the only 1/72 Pup I know of. > > > > Cheers > > > > Ross > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:39 AM > > Subject: [WWI] RE: Airfix re-release.. Pup.. > > > > > > | > > | > Airfix have re-released the Sopwith Pup. > > | Incredible interior - it has structure where it cannot be seen, and > > | where it can, it has nothing. > > | G. > > | > > | > > | > > | -- > > | > > | Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! > > | [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] > > | > > | > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:06:30 EST From: PolTexCW@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paint Bottles Message-ID: <16a.504bc0a.293d7b96@aol.com> In a message dated 12/3/1 11:56:00 AM, lemen@x25.net writes: << The "Shaker" just finalizes the job. I do not intend to make claims that it saves on paint costs. >> I have resolved all problems in regard to sludgey paint etc. We have six cats for each of which my wife has sewn lovely paniers holding twelve bottles each. Although cats do sleep at virtually all times when they are not napping, dozing or eating, they do change position every two to three hours. This results in the paints being regularly agitated. Each cat has a certain type of paint in his panier - one metallics, one blues another greens etc. So that when I begin a painting project, I simply select the appropriate cat(s) and deposit it/them within arms length and proceed to the task at hand.. John Biskupski ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:08:49 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Eduard Aalbatros DII profipack Message-ID: <20011204010849.52974.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Gaston, Im not sure about the decals in the kit, but the aircraft Boelcke was killed in (386/16) can be done from it and the D.II MvR used in the fight with Hawker (496/16). Not too many carried personalized markings. Todd --- Gaston Graf wrote: > Ehmmm..... what pilots aircraft can be build with > the Eduard kit please? > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" > at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > > I was lucky and got a profipack sprue with my > basic > > Albatros kit. Even without the PE, both versions > can > > be built from the sprues. Both upper wingtypes > are > > present and radiators and plumbing for both too. > > > > Todd > > > > > > --- Rick Milas wrote: > > > I hear that the Albatros DII profi is now > available. > > > Does anyone know if > > > this can be built in both the early or late > > > versions, or only the late > > > version? > > > Rick Milas > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:12:44 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue Message-ID: <00a001c17c60$c84a1f10$5c38183f@cyrixp166> Not to turn this into the WWI Accountants list, but are you sure it is deductable when you are receiving a magazine subscription? Isn't that considered "value in kind"? Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue > Matt has: > > "... subscribed to WW1 Aero, but I haven't received no notices about my subscription renewal..." > > WWIAero sends only a postcard, and it is a contribution reminder. > If you don't respond to the only one you get, you're gone. Or so it seems. > > Also note, for us Yanks, that contributions over the minimum $30.00 are tax deductible! > > Lance > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:30:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue Message-ID: In a message dated 12/3/01 5:13:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << Not to turn this into the WWI Accountants list, but are you sure it is deductable when you are receiving a magazine subscription? Isn't that considered "value in kind"? Cyg. >> WW I Aero is tax-exempt service organization, you're not subscribing to a magazine so much as "joining an organization" and anything over the basic subscription cost is deductable.In each issue it says "members contribute at least the minimum, with anything over that as a tax deductable contribution.Since we are a service organization, our expenses go beyond pubication and mailing costs, so the more the better! Gifts of books or other saleable materials are also tax deductable" RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:41:48 -0600 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue Message-ID: <3C0C29DC.862C68F1@x25.net> Note Lance said "Contributions over the minimum $30.00 are deductable". Not the entire amount. That do make a difference... Lee M.N Nw Braunfels, Tx John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > Not to turn this into the WWI Accountants list, but are you sure it is > deductable when you are receiving a magazine subscription? Isn't that > considered "value in kind"? > > Cyg. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lance Krieg > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:25 AM > Subject: [WWI] RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue > > > Matt has: > > > > "... subscribed to WW1 Aero, but I haven't received no notices about my > subscription renewal..." > > > > WWIAero sends only a postcard, and it is a contribution reminder. > > If you don't respond to the only one you get, you're gone. Or so it > seems. > > > > Also note, for us Yanks, that contributions over the minimum $30.00 are > tax deductible! > > > > Lance > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:36:49 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: <51.153c15fa.293d82b1@aol.com> In a message dated 12/3/01 3:03:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << and how few even knew there *was* a French ace. I'd have thought there'd be a market for SPADs though - because of your countrymens desire to build *their* aces, and though there weren't many of them (compared to Germany/France/UK) there'd surely enough to keep most modellers busy. >> Jeez, French aces were about the only Allied aces I could read about as a kid (whew, did I ever get sick of Guynemer ), and the US stuff was usually an offshoot of the Lafayette escadrille.... two or three British ones, a couple of Americans...What a shock to first learn that Rickenbacker and Luke weren't the only ones, but only a couple of the dozens. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:54:27 -0500 From: "bruce simard" To: Subject: Re: 1/72 Mechanic Figure Message-ID: <001701c17c66$9bea0c40$943aaf3f@22by501> ----- > From: "Steven Perry" > I'm looking for 1/72 figure of a German mechanic preferably with arms > extended away from the torso to facilitate amputation, joint surgery and > re-attachment. > > Does such a figure exist? And can anyone tell me what basic colors to paint > a German mechanic's uniform? > > If anyone has an extra 1/72 German mechanic figure or any other figure that > could be modified to one fairly easily, please give me a holler off list and > we can work out a trade. .. Steve, Please excuse the delay in answering, I'm in digest mode. I think you'll find exactly what you need from CMK -#F72044 - "Richthoffen Flying Circus". This kit is of 1 Pilot, and 2 mechanics, in resin. The body, arms, and heads are all separate, giving you multiple choice. Last I knew, Squadron was still carrying them, but I can't remember the price. Hope this helps........................................................Bruce. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:00:25 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD869@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> RK, > > Jeez, French aces were about the only Allied aces I could > read about as a kid > (whew, did I ever get sick of Guynemer ), and the US stuff > was usually an > offshoot of the Lafayette escadrille.... two or three British > ones, a couple > of Americans...What a shock to first learn that Rickenbacker > and Luke weren't > the only ones, but only a couple of the dozens. Now go to a model club meeting and shout "Hands up if you heard of The Red Baron" then "Hands up for Rene Fonck" errrrr, "Georges Guynemer..." errrr "Pere Dorme" errrrrr (and if you aren't in the USA you can probably add Rickenbacker and Luke and get the same non-reaction) Somehow, the Germans always get the most Press. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 101 21:06:19 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Palesintian Jasta's Message-ID: <379F1C2F077A9C34B8767221830819C6@cameron.prontomail.com> Hans, >And to all my knowledge there were no >Jastas. The Albatros fighters were attached to >the Feldfliegerabteilungen, not operating in >Jasta fashion. Jasta 55 was part of the September 1917 reinforcements in Palestine. IIRC Jasta 55 was part of the Amerika programme. The Albatros aircraft that FA300 received previous to that date were organized under Gerhard Felmy and often appear as Jasta 300 or Jasta F. I think the F stood for something other than Felmy though, but cant recall what. When Jasta 55 arrived they were amalgamated with Jasta 300 and appear as Jasta 1, Jasta 1F or Jasta 55 depending. Hannes Taeger did some research into the German recordings of the happenings in the Palestine theatre, they are published at; http://www.australianflyingcorps.org/mkiii/afc_feature.htm at the bottom of the page. Would be interested if anyone has seen any photos of Jasta 1F Pfalz aircraft. There are many AFC claims for Pfalz in the theatre but no photos have surfaced. cam www.austraianflyingcorps.org ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 11:45:48 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re:Palesintian Jasta's/Albatross on Palestine?Help!? Message-ID: <000001c17c76$df1d2960$236e160a@CSP00> Adriano, Cam, on the subject of Jasta's in Palestine I can add the following facts (and be warned, it's rather confusing, there were only 2 designated fighter units, but the designations were many more): > Jasta 55 was part of the September 1917 > reinforcements in Palestine. IIRC Jasta 55 was > part of the Amerika programme. Jasta 55 was established in December 1917, selected to go to Palestine only in January. Renamed Jasta F or Jasta 1F for that matter. The F stood most probably for "Heeresgruppe F", the Palestine army command (named so after the commander, Falkenhayn). First commanding officer was Lr. Karl Mayerdirks, formerly of Jasta 12 and 40. Jasta 55/1F arrived at Palestine in March 1918, flying it's frirst combat (an escort for a combined FA 300/304 bombing mission) on April 1, 1918 (Easter Monday). Jasta 1 F (the 55 designation being obviously offically discontinued at that time). Meierdirks also scored the units first victory on April 24, 1918 (an RE 8 over Nablus - the aircraft mentioned in the reports Cam quoted for April 27). He was himself killed in a crash during a low level strafing attack on May 4, 1918 (due to wing failure, it seems). While still existing on paper, Jasta 55/1 F seemed to dissappear as a functional unit sometime in June 1918. Jasta 1 F was equipped with Albatros D Va fighters upon arrival. And it was the only "official", but not really the only Jasta in Palestine... > The Albatros aircraft that FA300 received previous to that > date were organized under Gerhard Felmy and > often appear as Jasta 300 or Jasta F. I think > the F stood for something other than Felmy > though, but cant recall what. When Jasta 55 > arrived they were amalgamated with Jasta 300 > and appear as Jasta 1, Jasta 1F or Jasta 55 > depending. Actually, a fighter unit was organized in January 1918 (4 months before Jasta 1F joined combat). The aircraft were Albatros D III fighters taken not only from FA 300, but actually from Fliegerabteilungen 300, 301, 302, 303 an d 304 b. This unit was initially named "provisorische Jasta" ("provisional Jasta"), later changing to Jasta 300 Jasta Yildirim, Jasta Felmy, Jasta F (like Jasta 55 as well) or Jasta 2F - all names can be found in documents. According to the reminiscences of Paul Leim (who was flying in Palestinge, and later on joined Kest 4b in Freiburg), the Staffel was commanded by Hauptmann Walz, the commander of FA 304b (and formerly Jasta Boelcke) - but Felmy also is named in other . The name obviously again points to army group F/Falkenhayn. Itv would seem that in May/June 1918 the remains of the 2 Jastas were combined into 1 unit, shich then (beside the few Alb D III and D Va that remained) also received some Pfalz D IIIa aircraft (from the last production batch - they had been specially earmarked for service in Palestine). However, the stroy of this fighter unit would seem to be one of continuous decline after May 1918. WHile things are not completely clear, I presonally think that the following rough description best wraps up the story of the Palestine Jastas: January 1918 Provisorische Jasta (also Jasta 300, Jasta Yildirim,...), Albatros D III from FA 300 to 304b March 1918 Jasta 1 F (formerly Jasta 55), Albatros D Va aircraft Provisorische Jasta renamed Jasta 2F at the same time June 1918 Both units combine, operate under FA 300 or FA 304b command, also receive Pfalz D IIIa > Would be interested > if anyone has seen any photos of Jasta 1F Pfalz > aircraft. There are many AFC claims for Pfalz > in the theatre but no photos have surfaced. > It is really strange that Pfalz are reported both by the German documents as well as by Australian ones, but there are no photos of operational aircraft. In fact, there is one photo showing the wings of Pfalz D IIIa (still in some packing/transport jig) in front of a burned out AEG C IV (I think that was at Jenin airport), as well as some photos of a Pfalz D IIIa in Turkish markings after the war, but none of them in the original German markings. Strange indeed.... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 22:39:55 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue Message-ID: <61.1794f3b7.293d9f8b@aol.com> Diego wrote: > Cool! Would you mind telling us what's in this special issue? The issue is WWI Aero, No. 174, November 2001. It features a cover painting by George Pratt of an SE5A that seems to be flying out of a hellish cloud of ack ack and whatever other explosions, amazingly unscathed. As I mentioned earlier, it includes a reprint of the first publication, three pages titled, Antique Airplane Association, World War One Club. The table of contents lists: drawings of Voisin Icare seaplane; history of the NASM Nieuport 28 with photos; Czech pilot training at Pau, 1919; Pilot's report on the Shuttleworth SE5A, Drawings of the 1905 Wright propeller, Oeffag Alb D.III upper wing, Curtiss A-1, Franz A.R. Type I fuselage, top, bottom, front and profile drawings of the Caudron G.VI A2 and some SPAD V.II fuselage side and top drawings including some detail of the undercarriage and wing cross-sections. There are also some interesting photos of DH-9 airframe parts recovered from India,including the cockpit, seat and instrument panel, sans instruments. There is also an article on How to Contruct an Airscrew the Simple Way by Achim Engels, in which he takes you step-by-step from the wood selection through to the finished product, using nothing but simple hand tools. Fascinating! Wish I had the time and energy to try it. Take care, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 03:42:15 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: A Quick Note About my E-Mail Address Message-ID: Howdy Gang! First off, my apologies about using bandwidth for this. Anyhoo, my ISP went out of business and is having trouble switching me over. As a result I cannot access my Roll Models email account. If ya'll need to contact me about something off list please use this address or my work address (btheobal@sta.samsung.com). I prefer the work addy because it is faster. I'm going to talk to the honcho tonight and see about getting some loot for ya'll. Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 20:20:40 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: <3C0C4F18.8E986EA3@earthlink.net> As long as we're all wishing, how about Eduard doing a SPAD VII, DH-4 (any variant except the B), Rumpler G.III, Albatros G.III, and Polikarpov I-15 (its got two wings) all in 1/48...? I'd settle for the WWI subjects from Roden in 1/72. It would be interesting to see how many people would suddenly become interested in the obscure early bombers with decent kits available... "Lee M." wrote: > I would like to have one in 1/48 also. For that matter 1/32nd or 1/28th. > > Lee M. > New Braunfels, TX > > ibs4421 wrote: > > > But Tom, you, must know by now that the list membership can take any kind of > > request whatsoever, and twist it into almost any thread we want. > > > > Warren > > > > > Hold on a minute!! I started this off by asking about 1/48 reissues/new > > > moulds etc.! I simply want a 1/48 Fokker EIII, not a 1/72 > > > SPAD/Nieuport/Alabatros/(or, for that matter)a 1/72 Fokker EIII! > > > > > > Tom (slightly confused by now) ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3947 **********************