WWI Digest 3943 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) 1/48 Dragon Dr.I by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 2) Re: Paint Bottles by "jernst" 3) Re: Paint Bottles/again by "Tom Plesha" 4) Re: Paint Bottles by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 5) Re: The Albatros Pilot Has Been Shot! by Scottfking@aol.com 6) Re: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit by Scottfking@aol.com 7) Re: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit by Scottfking@aol.com 8) 1/28 Revel kits by Mark Miller 9) Re: 1/28 Revel kits by Rory Goodwin 10) New AFV kits by Karen Rychlewski 11) 拥有客户才拥有财富 by 耀星资讯 12) Re: New AFV kits by "Ross Moorhouse" 13) Re: Seeing as we are talking about these gentle giants... by "Ross Moorhouse" 14) RE: New AFV kits by "Gaston Graf" 15) Hobbycraft SPAD 13 by "Paul" 16) Re: Paint Bottles by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 17) Re: Seeing as we are talking about these gentle giants... by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 18) Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by Tom Gourdie 19) Re: Seeing as we are talking about these gentle giants... by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 20) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by Shane Weier 21) December's Internet Modeler is up by "Diego Fernetti" 22) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Fokker EIII reissue by Tom Gourdie 24) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by "Matt Bittner" 25) RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue by "Diego Fernetti" 26) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by "Diego Fernetti" 27) RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? by "Matt Bittner" 28) speaking of nieuports by "Diego Fernetti" 29) RE: Cook Up Site by "Diego Fernetti" 30) RE: The Great WW1 modelling Cookup site by "Diego Fernetti" 31) Re: speaking of nieuports by Jan Vihonen 32) Re: speaking of nieuports by "Diego Fernetti" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 22:44:46 -0200 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: 1/48 Dragon Dr.I Message-ID: <003401c17b93$b606ea40$0f37e2c8@computador> Folks, As I said in my last message, a friend of mine, Sidney Pagotto, bought today a Dragon Dr.I, but the kit comes with decals for Kempf only. He wants to build 425/17 with Balkenkreuze, what can I suggest to him? All the best from Brazil Marcio ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:17:34 -0500 From: "jernst" To: "WWI Digest" Subject: Re: Paint Bottles Message-ID: <000f01c17b98$4b7e5320$e15779a5@default> Hi All, I'm using Master Master acrylics - does anyone have a good suggestion on how to keep the paint from crusting up around the neck of the bottle between openings? TIA. john ernst ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:37:17 -0500 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Paint Bottles/again Message-ID: <000501c17b9b$0e478500$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi John- I just wipe the neck of the bottle and caps off frequently on all paint bottles. If they are stuck, a couple of drops of thinner in the cap with the bottle upside down on the counter/workbench usually does the trick in a few minutes. HTH Later Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "jernst" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Paint Bottles > Hi All, > > I'm using Master Master acrylics - does anyone have a good suggestion on how > to keep the paint from crusting up around the neck of the bottle between > openings? > > TIA. > > john ernst > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 20:42:15 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Paint Bottles Message-ID: <53.f64a843.293c3277@aol.com> I open the bottle, stir, take what I need to use and wipe the bottle cap liner and the bottle neck and top of the opening with a kleenex, then replace the cap. No problems due to dried paint when opening the next time. FWIW, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sun, 2 Dec 2001 8:19:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, "jernst" writes: > Hi All, > > I'm using Master Master acrylics - does anyone have a good suggestion on how > to keep the paint from crusting up around the neck of the bottle between > openings? > > TIA. > > john ernst ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:02:34 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Albatros Pilot Has Been Shot! Message-ID: <177.11aff5.293c373a@aol.com> In a message dated 12/2/01 5:26:23 PM EST, thayes_52601@yahoo.com writes: << My pilot has been shot. Has yours? The pilot figure in the D.II kit has a hole in his right chest. Or does that represent his underarm? >> Yep, on inspection, mine is suffering the same affliction. About the only molding flaw in the kit. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:06:37 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit Message-ID: <81.14100745.293c382d@aol.com> In a message dated 12/2/01 2:58:19 PM EST, thayes_52601@yahoo.com writes: << That's how my Albatros kit is but with that space filled. >> Lucky dog! Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:16:31 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit Message-ID: <168.4f6141a.293c3a7f@aol.com> In a message dated 12/2/01 4:52:46 PM EST, mbpw0220@mts.net writes: << What markings does the D.II come with? I am hoping for Joseph Jacob's KOBES and Mercedes Star... >> I think the box for the Profipack has an a/c with a skull on a red panel on the (varnished ply) fuselage, camouflaged wings. Don't know what other markings are in the kit, but I think it is available at Hannant's now, possibly some of our English listees may see it soon. Scott ------------------------------ Date: 2 Dec 2001 18:55:12 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: 1/28 Revel kits Message-ID: <20011203025512.11879.cpmta@c016.snv.cp.net> I noticed the thread about the DR1. and it got me to thinking. It sems to me that these molds have seen better days. I made this kit the first time MANY years ago. And I still have bits and pieces of those kits around here. And they seem far more crisp than more recently acquired versions. I was at the Bradley air museum about 7 (!) years ago and noticed that in the gift shop they had all three of the 1/28 scale kits in the original box. The large flat white one with photos of the built up kit on the cover. i bought them, at a rather outlandish price, thinking that they would be as clean as I rememdered them to be. Unfortunately this was not the case. I swear they replaced the original plastic with a later version. Needless to say I was very disappionted Buyer beware ;-( Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 20:09:45 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/28 Revel kits Message-ID: <3C0AFB08.66FB157@earthlink.net> The old Airfix 1/72 kits are also prime examples of this: on the early issue kits, you generally got nicely molded parts. On the progressive reissues, the ejector pin holes got deeper/"mounded" and the props thinner until you could see through them. For some reason, the Roland C.II and Sopwith Pup kits seem to have aged very well, although you do seem to get larger sink holes now than than the older issue kits... Mark Miller wrote: > I noticed the thread about the DR1. > and it got me to thinking. > It sems to me that these molds have seen better days. > I made this kit the first time MANY years ago. > And I still have bits and pieces of those kits around here. And they seem far more crisp than more recently acquired versions. > I was at the Bradley air museum about 7 (!) years ago and noticed that in the gift shop they had all three of the 1/28 scale kits in the original box. The large flat white one with photos of the built up kit on the cover. > i bought them, at a rather outlandish price, thinking that they would be as clean as I rememdered them to be. > Unfortunately this was not the case. I swear they replaced the original plastic with a later version. > Needless to say I was very disappionted > Buyer beware ;-( > > Mark > > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 23:49:47 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: to post Subject: New AFV kits Message-ID: <3C0B046A.F2CFA818@earthlink.net> For the builders of the obscure and strange, Commander has three new kits in 1/35: the mostly-forgotten, but gutty little Ford 3-ton tank: http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/Ford_3ton.html what the Soviets did to British tanks: http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/Mark_B.html (and it's available at 35% off until the end of December) And one more that I have never seen which may or may not be more or less WWI vintage: http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/1061-T1E2.jpg they say it's an American T1E2 Light Tank...anyone know anything about this one? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 23:59:35 -0500 (EST) From: 耀星资讯 To: wweiking@uow.edu.au, wwert@cs.buffalo.edu, wwesgtm@tau.bekkoame.or.jp, Subject: 拥有客户才拥有财富 Message-ID: <200112030459.XAA33101@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Untitled Document ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:25:18 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: New AFV kits Message-ID: <003001c17bba$e703bd40$6513cecb@umber> I will get these added to the AFV BBQ site if they aren't already there.. Its nearly 40 here so don't expect me to think to clearly .. ;) Summer has arrived at last. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Rychlewski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:56 PM Subject: [WWI] New AFV kits | For the builders of the obscure and strange, Commander has three new | kits in 1/35: | the mostly-forgotten, but gutty little Ford 3-ton tank: | http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/Ford_3ton.html | what the Soviets did to British tanks: | http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/Mark_B.html (and it's | available at 35% off until the end of December) | | And one more that I have never seen which may or may not be more or less | WWI vintage: | http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/1061-T1E2.jpg | they say it's an American T1E2 Light Tank...anyone know anything about | this one? | | Karen | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:32:13 +1100 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Seeing as we are talking about these gentle giants... Message-ID: <004401c17bbb$de413240$6513cecb@umber> Has anyone ever built or seen the 1/8th SE5a that Hasegawa put out in 1981?? Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Goodwin" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: 1/28 Revel kits | The old Airfix 1/72 kits are also prime examples of this: on the early issue kits, you generally got nicely molded parts. On the progressive reissues, the ejector pin holes got deeper/"mounded" and the props thinner until you | could see through them. For some reason, the Roland C.II and Sopwith Pup kits seem to have aged very well, although you do seem to get larger sink holes now than than the older issue kits... | | Mark Miller wrote: | | > I noticed the thread about the DR1. | > and it got me to thinking. | > It sems to me that these molds have seen better days. | > I made this kit the first time MANY years ago. | > And I still have bits and pieces of those kits around here. And they seem far more crisp than more recently acquired versions. | > I was at the Bradley air museum about 7 (!) years ago and noticed that in the gift shop they had all three of the 1/28 scale kits in the original box. The large flat white one with photos of the built up kit on the cover. | > i bought them, at a rather outlandish price, thinking that they would be as clean as I rememdered them to be. | > Unfortunately this was not the case. I swear they replaced the original plastic with a later version. | > Needless to say I was very disappionted | > Buyer beware ;-( | > | > Mark | > | > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! | > http://www.shopping.altavista.com | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 06:54:16 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: New AFV kits Message-ID: Thanks Karen! I took a look at the site and must say that their prices are simply shameless! Asking 65 bucks and more for a 1/35th scale model should be considered a crime. I would rather build such tank scratch than spending so much money for a few pieces of resin. They dare to ask even 210 bucks for a French tank. I wonder how crazy customers are to spend that much money? The model makers on this list should know that I buy for reasonable prices only. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > For the builders of the obscure and strange, Commander has three new > kits in 1/35: > the mostly-forgotten, but gutty little Ford 3-ton tank: > http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/Ford_3ton.html > what the Soviets did to British tanks: > http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/Mark_B.html (and it's > available at 35% off until the end of December) > > And one more that I have never seen which may or may not be more or less > WWI vintage: > http://www.commanderseries.com/armor/1061-T1E2.jpg > they say it's an American T1E2 Light Tank...anyone know anything about > this one? > > Karen > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 00:11:25 -0600 From: "Paul" To: "WW I Post" Subject: Hobbycraft SPAD 13 Message-ID: <000701c17bc1$57893940$869d8ece@computer> I've been on and off list lately so I haven't heard what the consensus was on the Hobbycraft 1/32 SPAD 13. Has anyone given it a go yet, or compared it to pics and drawings? Paul H ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 07:27:56 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paint Bottles Message-ID: >Hi All, > >I'm using Master Master acrylics - does anyone have a good suggestion on how >to keep the paint from crusting up around the neck of the bottle between >openings? > >TIA. > >john ernst Seems to me the trouble is caused by the volume of air space increasing as the paint is used, leaving space for the paint to evaporate. As the level goes down, top up with decorative glass beads? N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 04:51:34 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Seeing as we are talking about these gentle giants... Message-ID: <002001c17be0$18b2b420$a937183f@cyrixp166> Oh yeah, it would be nice to have an uncomitted $600(US) laying around. They are beautiful, but have a couplr of accuracy questions and are suppoed to be a "difficult" build. A couple of list members have one. They come up on Ebay infrequently. Regards, John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Moorhouse To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Seeing as we are talking about these gentle giants... > Has anyone ever built or seen the 1/8th SE5a that Hasegawa put out in 1981?? > > Cheers > > Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:54:29 -0000 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: Do any list members think it likely that Eduard will reissue any of their very early offerings but using their current technology? I made the 1:48 Flashback Fokker EIII some time ago but gifted it - complete with a glazed case - to a friend. I have been trying to find a replacement for some time now and it would appear that both the Eduard and Flashback reissue are all gone (although there must be one or two lurking somewhere). Since Eduard is reissuing the Alanatros DV a reissue of other aircraft is obviously not outside the realms of possibility. How about the Hannover CLIII, for example, as well as the Fokker EIII? I just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this. Tom Tom Gourdie Regional Group Co-ordinator Outreach Department Universities and Colleges Admissions Service (UCAS) Registered Office Address: Rosehill New Barn Lane Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL52 3LZ UK E-mail: t.gourdie@ucas.ac.uk Direct telephone number: +44 (0) 1242 544 878 Direct fax number: +44 (0) 1242 544 963 Registered Company No: 2839815 Registered Charity No: 1024741 Website: www.ucas.com This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 06:00:09 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Seeing as we are talking about these gentle giants... Message-ID: <14b.511090c.293cb539@aol.com> In a message dated 03/12/01 09:51:48 GMT Standard Time, janah@worldnet.att.net writes: << They are beautiful, but have a couplr of accuracy questions >> I beleive this is especially the case with the SE where the wing structure has been called into question. Stuff like parts being molded as solid when they should have big holes in them. Lucky for me I am a tight @R$3 who gets the shakes if spending more than 15 quid on a single item cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:08:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD85C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Tom > Since Eduard is reissuing the Alanatros DV a reissue of other > aircraft is > obviously not outside the realms of possibility. Strictly speaking, this will be an entirely new mould, not a reissue. The question remains though - whether the E.III would be a big enough seller to warrant a reissue. I *personally* doubt it, because while we WW1-ophiles would buy it, it isn't the sort of subject to bring too much repeat business as there are too few aces and no gaudy tasteless colour schemes. > How about the Hannover > CLIII, for example, I wish. OTOH the story is that they decided that the Roland C.II would be the end of two seaters for them in the foreseeable future. Maybe that means that there's even less chance a 2 seater will be produced using new moulds. Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:17:08 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: December's Internet Modeler is up Message-ID: <02fe01c17bec$0bf21f80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Excellent issue as ever! But, what's up? no Editorial column? I was glad to read an article by Ernest Thomas, but it has no Email link for him... is he still out there in the cold? D. PS: I must recognize that the "evil twin" of Michael -also called Michael- is an great modler as well. Go for it, Michael, er...... sorry, Michael! ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Banyai-Riepl To: Multiple recipients of list > Yes, for those of you who have been anxiously waiting for this very message, > here it is. There's just a touch of WWI content. Roland C.II, Anatra, SE5 > and a Vickers-Clyno, for starters. And glory be, I, yes I, have actually > finished a model AND wrote an article on it. Not WWI, but hey, it's done, > right? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:19:46 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: <030f01c17bec$6a1146e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> At least they should make them in 1/72! D. diving into a cloud ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:04:33 -0000 From: Tom Gourdie To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Fokker EIII reissue Message-ID: Oops! For 'Alanatros' please read 'Albatros'!! Don't know where that distortion came from! Tom Tom Gourdie Regional Group Co-ordinator Outreach Department Universities and Colleges Admissions Service (UCAS) Registered Office Address: Rosehill New Barn Lane Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL52 3LZ UK E-mail: t.gourdie@ucas.ac.uk Direct telephone number: +44 (0) 1242 544 878 Direct fax number: +44 (0) 1242 544 963 Registered Company No: 2839815 Registered Charity No: 1024741 Website: www.ucas.com This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. You may not copy it or use this message for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person or take any action based on them. E-Mails are susceptible to interference. UCAS accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity of the contents with the sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 05:15:06 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 06:14:44 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: > At least they should make them in 1/72! Ah, they will, Young Jedi, they will... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:27:35 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue Message-ID: <032e01c17bed$81f27260$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mike wrote: > Just received the subject issue. Wow!! Slick (not Xerox) magazine all the way, including a reprint of the first issue. I'll be reading myself to sleep for several nights with this one. Cool! Would you mind telling us what's in this special issue? Speaking of wich... It's about a year since I subscribed to WW1 Aero, but I haven't received no notices about my subscription renewal... should I check if it hasn't expired yet? Do they send a new subscription form in due time? I have a NGS mag subscription and they send these subs notices every month.... D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:29:34 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: <033401c17bed$c8d2ac40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I know that they do the E.III in photoetched, but I'm expecting a reissue of the fokker E series in plain injected plastic... So it'll be the Hanriot, the Fokkers, perhaps new Nieuports? Hope.... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 8:19 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 06:14:44 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: > > > At least they should make them in 1/72! > > Ah, they will, Young Jedi, they will... > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 05:27:22 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Eduard/Flashback Fokker EIII - possible reissue? Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 06:26:01 -0500 (EST), Diego Fernetti wrote: > I know that they do the E.III in photoetched, but I'm expecting a reissue of > the fokker E series in plain injected plastic... So it'll be the Hanriot, > the Fokkers, perhaps new Nieuports? Hope.... Actually I think - whenever they get to releasing the new 1/72nd - it will be Albatros D.III, Fokker E.III, Hanriots, then who knows (but hoping for the Nieuports). Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:47:54 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: speaking of nieuports Message-ID: <035801c17bf0$5846ffa0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Yesterday I was fiddling with the files I have about Nieuports and I've found copies of an old article on the Nieuport 11 with drawings by Ian Stair. The I grabbed the Toko kit and compared the parts to it... perfect match!!! Of course it differs from the Plans in the Nieupor Specail part 1 but it's not too much (the fuselage a hair deeper and short, the lower wings shorter and upper wing with less sweep) I guess that's too little to correct, since the Scale model's plans do look like a 11... Would be worth the surgery to correct it? D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:50:25 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Cook Up Site Message-ID: <038401c17bf0$b2803a40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Nigel, venomously wrote: > But one thing - you seem to have missed off some of Diego's Albatros DII > build. It seems to stop at the engine and cockpit, where it did last time. > Don't tell me after all this time there has still been *no* progress ...:-) To wich I say... "No comments"! D. cheeky britons! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:57:11 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: The Great WW1 modelling Cookup site Message-ID: <039d01c17bf1$a435ab40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Great Job, Shane and Lorna! We participants of the Cook Ups are greatly indebted for this. I may even finish my Albatros any day soon, so I can silence certain rumours wich have been going around. A presto! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 13:59:09 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: speaking of nieuports Message-ID: <3C0B690C.72326ED4@helsinki.fi> D. Those older plans by I.R. Stair and a lots of more that appeared originally in Scale Models were published in Aircraft Archives (WWI aircraft Volumes 1-3, sometimes in early 90s, by Motorbooks. IIRC) and some other earlier Toko kits match almost exactly to plans you find there; Snipe (about 1 mm too long fuse both in kit and drawings), SSW D.III/IV, Pfalz D.XII. Well, at least these. Later on they (Roden) seem to have swiched over to DF plans. And yes, I'm thinking the same strategy for Nie. 11. Alberto did a great model out it without major corrections, anyway, and what am I to question Master Modellers judgement. ;-) FWIW. Jan > Yesterday I was fiddling with the files I have about Nieuports and I've > found copies of an old article on the Nieuport 11 with drawings by Ian > Stair. The I grabbed the Toko kit and compared the parts to it... perfect > match!!! > Of course it differs from the Plans in the Nieupor Specail part 1 but it's > not too much (the fuselage a hair deeper and short, the lower wings shorter > and upper wing with less sweep) I guess that's too little to correct, since > the Scale model's plans do look like a 11... Would be worth the surgery to > correct it? > D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:17:00 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: speaking of nieuports Message-ID: <000d01c17bf4$6905a9a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks Jan! Yes, Alberto and Michael made the Nieuports without much differences, altough Alberto extended the fuselage aft the cowl. I may have to do so, as I have a kit that one of the cowl "deflectors" is missing, and working on the area will be required. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Vihonen To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:02 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: speaking of nieuports > D. > > Those older plans by I.R. Stair and a lots of more that appeared > originally in Scale Models were published in Aircraft Archives (WWI > aircraft Volumes 1-3, sometimes in early 90s, by Motorbooks. IIRC) and > some other earlier Toko kits match almost exactly to plans you find > there; Snipe (about 1 mm too long fuse both in kit and drawings), SSW > D.III/IV, Pfalz D.XII. Well, at least these. Later on they (Roden) seem > to have swiched over to DF plans. > > And yes, I'm thinking the same strategy for Nie. 11. Alberto did a great > model out it without major corrections, anyway, and what am I to > question Master Modellers judgement. ;-) > > FWIW. > > Jan > > > Yesterday I was fiddling with the files I have about Nieuports and I've > > found copies of an old article on the Nieuport 11 with drawings by Ian > > Stair. The I grabbed the Toko kit and compared the parts to it... perfect > > match!!! > > Of course it differs from the Plans in the Nieupor Specail part 1 but it's > > not too much (the fuselage a hair deeper and short, the lower wings shorter > > and upper wing with less sweep) I guess that's too little to correct, since > > the Scale model's plans do look like a 11... Would be worth the surgery to > > correct it? > > D. > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3943 **********************