WWI Digest 3941 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: HR, Omega, etc. by Todd Hayes 2) Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit by Todd Hayes 3) Re: Build Articles for the Eduard Albatros D.II??? by "Limon3" 4) yahoo problems by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 5) Re: VAMP Order Has Arrived! by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 6) Re: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 7) WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 8) Roden by "Pedro Soares" 9) Re: Roden by David Fleming 10) re: Roden by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 11) me and my yahoo again by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 12) Re: Choroszy by "ibs4421" 13) New updates by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: 1/28 Fokker Triplanes by "Gaston Graf" 15) by ~ 16) Re: VAMP Order Has Arrived! by Todd Hayes 17) Re: HR, Omega, etc. by Todd Hayes 18) Speaking of Omega Models..../Virus Alert by Todd Hayes 19) RE: Build Articles for the Eduard Albatros D.II??? by Todd Hayes 20) Re: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit by "Hans Trauner" 21) Re: Build Articles for the Eduard Albatros D.II??? by "Hans Trauner" 22) re: Roden by "Hans Trauner" 23) Voss and Timm available by "Hans Trauner" 24) re: Roden by "Michael Kendix" 25) Gavia Bristol Scout Comments by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" 26) re: Roden by "Hans Trauner" 27) re: Roden by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: HR, Omega, etc. Message-ID: <20011201233939.67032.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Matt, Roll Models carries most of the kits, but for a substantially higher price. Also Modelimex at: www.modelimex.com The Omega lewis guns come with four guns of varying lewis types. Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > Since VAMP is off-line for awhile, does anyone else > know where exists a > catalog of HR, Omega and RVHP models? TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:49:58 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit Message-ID: <20011201234958.68342.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi List, In the VAMP order I received today were four of the Albatros kits. One of them seems to be an Eduard blooper. It has TWO upper wings (a profipack sprue by mistake?) while the other three have only one upper wing each. I went back and forth through all four to make sure I wasn't seeing things! Btw, the oddball one is MINE. Fits like a glove. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:04:17 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Build Articles for the Eduard Albatros D.II??? Message-ID: <01fd01c17ac4$e3dee960$860f5fcf@i7e2z6> Hi Hans, I've also started the DII, and I think it's superb. I'd also like the profi version, and like you I think they should have put in the crosses with white squares, but that's just nitpicking. I did notice the profi version is available now through Hannant's, so it shouldn't be too long before it gets over to this side of the pond. Gabe ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Trauner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:15 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Build Articles for the Eduard Albatros D.II??? > I am starting to do one ( for german magazine) but will inform on the list > while building it. First impression: Great. The usual Eduard representation > of wings, but acceptable. Eduard is really European Tamiya now! I am still > waiting for the Profipack version. The standard version is o.k. also, but > any AMS sufferer may need pe cooling jackets for the guns. Decals are quite > o.k. but I feel a version with crosses in white squares would be more > typical. Anything else: super. > > ( I did not do any measurements, yet! But if there would be 1mm shortness, > who cares??...) > > Hans > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:01:22 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: yahoo problems Message-ID: <000901c17ac4$96eedde0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi ! I have today problems with my yahoo account. You can reach me at: Grzegorz_Mazurowski@poczta.onet.pl Greetings Grzegorz -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 19:27:42 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: VAMP Order Has Arrived! Message-ID: Todd, In view of the length of time it has taken to to get this order (I've forgotten what I ordered), I am prepared to fly to your location and do some "handling" myself to preclude the additional fee. :-)) Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sat, 1 Dec 2001 5:08:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, Todd Hayes writes: > Lotsa interesting stuff arrived today. The new Eduard > Albatros D.II sure is a beauty. I will send your kits > ASAP. However, I must remind you that there is a $5 > per kit handling fee due before they are sent. > > Todd > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 19:39:42 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit Message-ID: <15b.508ffae.293ad24e@aol.com> Todd, Being a weekend with slow traffic, I suspect you are playing games re. the VAMP delivery. The fact that I haven't received my separate August VAMP order yet, makes the situation worse. The complete kit that fits like a glove is "MINE", not "yours". . . . unless, of course, I didn't order one. I don't remember. . . . Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sat, 1 Dec 2001 6:51:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, Todd Hayes writes: > Hi List, > > In the VAMP order I received today were four of the > Albatros kits. One of them seems to be an Eduard > blooper. It has TWO upper wings (a profipack sprue by > mistake?) while the other three have only one upper > wing each. I went back and forth through all four to > make sure I wasn't seeing things! Btw, the oddball > one is MINE. Fits like a glove. > > Todd > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 19:58:31 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: WWI Aero 40th Anniversery Issue Message-ID: <9f.1f355ea0.293ad6b7@aol.com> Just received the subject issue. Wow!! Slick (not Xerox) magazine all the way, including a reprint of the first issue. I'll be reading myself to sleep for several nights with this one. Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:01:15 -0000 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Roden Message-ID: <003a01c17acc$d7cc6be0$0f7316d5@netcabo.pt> Gang, Just heard from my friend Michal Beran this: http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/008.htm I got to get one!!!!!! Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 01:51:22 +0000 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Message-ID: <3C098919.8F9882D0@dial.pipex.com> Pedro Soares wrote: > Gang, > > Just heard from my friend Michal Beran this: > > http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/008.htm > > I got to get one!!!!!! > > Pedro Me too, I'll make an exception to my 'No Central Powers' rule for this - I remember this being announced, but forgot about it !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 03:10:00 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Roden Message-ID: <001901c17ad6$75bb8c60$0200a8c0@x.pl> My god! Really appeared! I don't belive! G. > Just heard from my friend Michal Beran this: > > http://www.rodenplant.com/HTML/008.htm > > I got to get one!!!!!! > > Pedro > -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 03:15:49 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: me and my yahoo again Message-ID: <002101c17ad7$4c323280$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi! I can't login my yahoo mailbox today. I don't know why and for how long. So I subscribed list again, from another account, which is my main account now. Everybody, who send mails on my yahoo account today, please resend this into this one. Marcio, I've drawn my Secret Santa, I know that person preferences and mail address, so I'll send gift. So don't worry, even if I can't acces our Secret Santa list. If something really important changed, inform me personally, please. Grzegorz -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 21:48:25 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Choroszy Message-ID: <007801c17ae4$32dd9880$8e3dfad1@ibs4421> Hey Matt! Hey Matt! Lookit me! Lookit me! I went to the site, and from the links page too! I want a cookie now for being such a good boy. I've got no business going to this site, I've been meaning to order somw stuff from Jadar for a few months now, and STILL haven't gotten around to it. There are soem nice Nieuports on that site. The JAAF type Ko-3 fighter/trainer looks for all the world like a Nieuport knock-off. Is it that, or did they buy some Nieuports? Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Choroszy > On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:52:02 -0500 (EST), KnnthS@aol.com wrote: > > > Msr. Bittner: could you be so kind? URL? > > Wow! I haven't had to say this in quite awhile! > > IT'S ON THE SITE!! In the Links page. > > ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 22:22:56 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New updates Message-ID: I just uploaded a few. A new Roland C.II from Sandy Adam, and a whole bunch from Sanjeev Hirve. Excellent work on all!! Matt Bittner WW1 Site Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 06:36:09 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: 1/28 Fokker Triplanes Message-ID: > > > So the leading edge plywood is under the fabric? > > Yes. That's probably why some kits have it and others don't. IT *is* there > but not really visible on pics - that being so I doubt if the > outline can be > seen against the overlying fabric without close examination and > it probably > shouldn't be there in scale - except that it's often details like > that that > add to believeability. > Urrrgs....looks like I confound things as I replied to it, I'm sorry. I talked about the wing skids - oh me idiot! 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Message-ID: <20011202080447.73509.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> About the $5 per kit handling charge, I was just joking. I'm sorry if I panicked anyone. Todd --- Todd Hayes wrote: > Lotsa interesting stuff arrived today. The new > Eduard > Albatros D.II sure is a beauty. I will send your > kits > ASAP. However, I must remind you that there is a $5 > per kit handling fee due before they are sent. > > Todd > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:09:02 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: HR, Omega, etc. Message-ID: <20011202080902.24929.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Make sure to check out the 1/32 pilot figure on page 42. --- Karen Rychlewski wrote: > Matt Bittner is in shopping mode and asked: > > > Since VAMP is off-line for awhile, does anyone > else know where exists a > > catalog of HR, Omega and RVHP models? TIA! > > Roll Models carries all three, but alas, no pictures > > Dame Karen (who is presently marking all OT stuff in > the new Squadron > catalog) > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:12:48 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Speaking of Omega Models..../Virus Alert Message-ID: <20011202081248.51997.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> I just received a possibly infected e-mail from Omega Models Sternberk (40k). Watch out. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:25:50 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Build Articles for the Eduard Albatros D.II??? Message-ID: <20011202082550.32898.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Bob, It looks beautiful in the box. I definitely agree with Hans and Gabe about the decals. White fields would be better for the crosses. To me, Eduard, as good as they are, frequently fall short in their decals. More inspired markings would be nice, but since the D.II is my favorite Albatros, I can easily get past that issue. Todd --- Laskodi wrote: > << new > Eduard Albatros D.II, yet?>>> > Yes, I just finished an article. Shameless plug > time, it will appear in the > next issue of AirandSeaModels > (www.airandseamodels.com) to be released in a > week or two. Unfortunately this is a fee modeling > e-zine ($20 annual > subscription fee), but if you go to the title page > (at least that's free!) > you will at least be able to see a picture of it in > a few days. I will give > you a short review right now; it is fantastic, has > no major faults, and > builds as easy as a Tamiya kit! Go buy a bunch of > them! I will post pictures > in the gallery here later in the month after the > issue has been released. > --------Bob > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:38:56 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit Message-ID: <004b01c17b0c$c8a27ac0$69a272d4@FRITZweb> I haven't seen the Profipack yet, but does the second wing have a built-in radiator? H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:51 AM Subject: [WWI] Oddball Eduard Albatros D.II Kit > Hi List, > > In the VAMP order I received today were four of the > Albatros kits. One of them seems to be an Eduard > blooper. It has TWO upper wings (a profipack sprue by > mistake?) while the other three have only one upper > wing each. I went back and forth through all four to > make sure I wasn't seeing things! Btw, the oddball > one is MINE. Fits like a glove. > > Todd > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:57:02 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Build Articles for the Eduard Albatros D.II??? Message-ID: <004f01c17b0f$4f046ae0$69a272d4@FRITZweb> I'd also like the profi > version, and like you I think they should have put in the crosses with white > squares, but that's just nitpicking. Maybe, Gabe. But there's an idea behind it. I don't like Focke Wul% 19$ in desert camouflage. I am trying to built the typical, not the exception. I even don't prefer ace's a/c. And a Albatros D.II is a 1916 bird. Even the first D III were issued with the squared- in crosses. And the decals don't have any Militärnummern. Even the white-duck version did have one, clearly visible on the photograph, but nor legible. What's about some generic number series 1 - 9, Eduard ? But you are completey right. This sounds nitpicking again. The problem with reviews is always: Everything is more than perfect = One sentence. There are a few problem with... = 5 to 10 sentences. And in e-mail traffic you have to be even more concise. I never would blame Eduard for the D.II effort. These kits are better than our wildest dreams in the 1980's or 1990's would have ever been. If somebody would have told me: "There will be Tamiya quality WWI kits in 1/48 in the 21th century..." I would have thought ' Another loony....' But, alas, we are a complete bunch of AMS sufferers, Nitpickers and Nietenzähler ( rivet counters). And don't forget: Nitpicking is the prime social pleasure chimpanzees are enjoying :-). Hnas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:31:55 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: re: Roden Message-ID: <007f01c17b14$2e90f9e0$69a272d4@FRITZweb> Roden is developing to a very serious threat for me. Problem a) They are somewhat hard to come by here in Germany. It's a constant challenge to get them. This costs too much of my nerves and spare time! Problem b) They are making too much. I could stop any other modelling projects only to concentrate me on those tiny scale Fokker D VII variants. And consider all those Albatros ! I have to get old,very, very old to finish all of them! My obituary will be: " He died in his blessed 108th year, with an Albatros wing in his left hand and a Faller Expert tube in his right hand, his head has fallen on an old Datafile..." Hans P.S. The homepage is fantastic. I like those turning props.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:55:45 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Voss and Timm available Message-ID: <002801c17b1f$e4ba45e0$6ead72d4@FRITZweb> Listees, yesterday I visited a local modeller event and met Herrn Hecker, the model master behind Hecker-Goros. He showed me the masters of 1/48 scale figures of Voss and Timm ( "Sorry, Herr Leutnant, but the yellow paint is off. What's about a white face on green cowling?"). With one word: Absolute fantastic. Voss is shown in his most famous pose: Hands in pocket, head turned to the viewer. With knitted sweater below his jacket and knitted wool socks. Timm with mechanics jacket and baggy leather trousers. Contact : webmaster@hecker-goros.de how to get some. ( The homepage www.hecker-goros.de tell's you nothing...) I wheedled a pre production set out of Mr Hecker. If anyone is interested in a scan, please contact me at hans.trauner@n-ergie.de. I have to use my bureau scanner, as my home scanner has a depth of field of 1 mm. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 13:35:14 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Roden Message-ID: Hans: Can't you just nip across the Czech or Polish border for kits? Else, order from NKR Models? The good thing about Roden is their price - most competitive. Maybe not up to MAC or Eduard's quality but decent for the money. Michael >From: "Hans Trauner" >Roden is developing to a very serious threat for me. > >Problem a) They are somewhat hard to come by here in Germany. It's a >constant challenge to get them. This costs too much of my nerves and spare >time! > >Problem b) They are making too much. I could stop any other modelling >projects only to concentrate me on those tiny scale Fokker D VII variants. >And consider all those Albatros ! I have to get old,very, very old to >finish >all of them! My obituary will be: >" He died in his blessed 108th year, with an Albatros wing in his left hand >and a Faller Expert tube in his right hand, his head has fallen on an old >Datafile..." > >Hans >P.S. The homepage is fantastic. I like those turning props.... > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:34:33 -0600 From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "wwi-faq" Subject: Gavia Bristol Scout Comments Message-ID: <001b01c17b3e$b5626d80$2d32b9cc@unionrai> I've been trying to work on some of the 'easier' models this last half of the year and get a few things done. The DML DVIII was one recent build the other is the Gavia Bristol Scout. It's another easy build compared to many of the early Eduard kits. I believe after I finish a couple of easy kits I can then drag out an early Eduard or Aeroclub BE2c or 'e' that will take me a few months and not feel like I'm loosing ground to the unbuilt 'masses' in the basement. However, then again, Bob Pearson's newest Roland C.II paintings in the December Internet Modeler are already starting to swing the vote (and I've already finished cutting out the interior formers). Here's some of my notes before old age sits in and I forget them: - be careful before drilling out the rigging holes for the tail - Gavia's kit doesn't match the DF placement of these exit points. - used Northeastern HO 1" x 2" (1/87th) model railroad wood shapes to make up the framing for the interior and rigged interior with ceramic wire. - Mister Kit British CDL for all fabric surfaces - modified the lower area of the cowling by cutting back a curved area on each side where the cowling meets the bottom of the fuselage. - I'm building a RNAS a/c and decided after looked at numerous photos the metal cowling and side panels appear to be painted a light color vs. having a reflective metal look, used Misterkit German Light Grey for this light color. - wood shapes and wood fuselage areas are Testor's Dark Tan FS 30219. - I cut back the lower wing rib station next to the fuselage to match the Datafile GA and photos. This was done to obviously let the pilot know when he was getting close to the ground and to see them little Fokkers before they saw you. Two .040 brass wires were then used to reinforce the lower wing otherwise there isn't much to hold the wing platform together. I drilled into the two mounting spars about 12" scale inches to give the wing something to 'sit into'... Fuselage interior had to be filed out with a round file to allow the brass to go through the structure. - Airbrushed a light coat of Testors acrylic gloss over the wings, tail and fuselage were the decals are placed. The decals are very thin so I elected not to use any decal solution. They applied very well with no bubbles or winkles. I was going to number this a/c 1256 using a combination of the two decals numbers 1250 and 1611 that come in the kit. The 1611 are larger than the 1250 - go figure that one out....so back to 1250. - Rigging will be done with .005 fly fishing line when I get there. Being a single bay a/c the rigging should be a snap. I've always like the delicate lines of the Bristol Scout and with the RNAS white and red roundels with the Union Jack will make up an interesting model next to it's PC10 cousins. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:09:14 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: re: Roden Message-ID: <002601c17b43$4e68c980$7da272d4@FRITZweb> Michael, english is not my mother's language and so my last message may sound more serious as it should have been... BTW, Polish border: Poland is someway behind Berlin and Berlin is 600 km away. Not much for you US guys but for us immobile Europeans too much for a bunch of kits. Czech border is nearer, but I have never found a czech model shop. Prices never bothered me, except Hasegawa 1/8 kits ( and Hasegawa 1/72, but no OT, luckily). If a OT injection moulded kit is good and offers a good subject, I'll buy it. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kendix" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 2:37 PM Subject: [WWI] re: Roden > Hans: > > Can't you just nip across the Czech or Polish border for kits? Else, order > from NKR Models? > > The good thing about Roden is their price - most competitive. Maybe not up > to MAC or Eduard's quality but decent for the money. > > Michael > > >From: "Hans Trauner" > >Roden is developing to a very serious threat for me. > > > >Problem a) They are somewhat hard to come by here in Germany. It's a > >constant challenge to get them. This costs too much of my nerves and spare > >time! > > > >Problem b) They are making too much. I could stop any other modelling > >projects only to concentrate me on those tiny scale Fokker D VII variants. > >And consider all those Albatros ! I have to get old,very, very old to > >finish > >all of them! My obituary will be: > >" He died in his blessed 108th year, with an Albatros wing in his left hand > >and a Faller Expert tube in his right hand, his head has fallen on an old > >Datafile..." > > > >Hans > >P.S. The homepage is fantastic. I like those turning props.... > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 15:22:22 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Roden Message-ID: Hans: No, I understood your message as you intended. Your English is fine. Problem is, being English myself, we have our sense of humour removed at birth - solves a lot of problems. There's a page by Czech modeller, Radek Adamec. He lists some modelling stores in Prague. (Praha). http://www.pcv.cz/home/adamec/models/stores.html Michael P.S. Glad we only have easy teams to beat in Group F. >From: "Hans Trauner" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] re: Roden >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:08:35 -0500 (EST) > >Michael, >english is not my mother's language and so my last message may sound more >serious as it should have been... > >BTW, Polish border: Poland is someway behind Berlin and Berlin is 600 km >away. Not much for you US guys but for us immobile Europeans too much for a >bunch of kits. Czech border is nearer, but I have never found a czech model >shop. > >Prices never bothered me, except Hasegawa 1/8 kits ( and Hasegawa 1/72, but >no OT, luckily). If a OT injection moulded kit is good and offers a good >subject, I'll buy it. > >Hans > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael Kendix" >To: "Multiple recipients of list" >Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 2:37 PM >Subject: [WWI] re: Roden > > > > Hans: > > > > Can't you just nip across the Czech or Polish border for kits? Else, >order > > from NKR Models? > > > > The good thing about Roden is their price - most competitive. Maybe not >up > > to MAC or Eduard's quality but decent for the money. > > > > Michael > > > > >From: "Hans Trauner" > > >Roden is developing to a very serious threat for me. > > > > > >Problem a) They are somewhat hard to come by here in Germany. It's a > > >constant challenge to get them. This costs too much of my nerves and >spare > > >time! > > > > > >Problem b) They are making too much. I could stop any other modelling > > >projects only to concentrate me on those tiny scale Fokker D VII >variants. > > >And consider all those Albatros ! I have to get old,very, very old to > > >finish > > >all of them! My obituary will be: > > >" He died in his blessed 108th year, with an Albatros wing in his left >hand > > >and a Faller Expert tube in his right hand, his head has fallen on an >old > > >Datafile..." > > > > > >Hans > > >P.S. The homepage is fantastic. I like those turning props.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3941 **********************