WWI Digest 3910

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) 全新改版,仍然免费!(支持上海VIP用户)
	by gandg123@8848.net
  2) Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Plan
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
  3) Re: Non-Fokker triplanes in 1/72
	by Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
  4) wood was RE: Albatros Cabanes - PE or not PE
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  5) RE: Albatros Cabanes - PE or not PE
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
  6) List down?
	by Allan Wright <aew>
  7) Re: British Airship colours
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
  8) Re: Journal Subscriptions
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
  9) RE: Please help:  researching Austro-Hungarian WKF Dr1
	by "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
 10) RE:Decals WAS Hyperscale review
	by "Robert Baumgartner" <baumgartner@iprimus.com.au>
 11) Re: Strut colours on Dutch DVII's 
	by "StefenK" <StefenK@netzero.net>
 12) Re: Squadron's Kit of the Year!?!?
	by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com
 13) Re: OT(almost) thingie and early aviation school anegdotes
	by Artur Golebiewski <kaczusia@yahoo.com>
 14) Re: OT(almost) thingie and early aviation school anegdo
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 15) CSM ANNOUNCEMENT
	by ERIC HIGHT <copperst@sd.fastq.com>
 16) Model woods
	by "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
 17) Re: Multifarious Sport Shoes, Minimum Price USD 1.2 Per Pair
	by KnnthS@aol.com
 18) Re: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT
	by "Tom Plesha" <plesha3@home.com>
 19) RE:Decals WAS Hyperscale review
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 20) RE: Model woods
	by Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
 21) Re: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT
	by KnnthS@aol.com
 22) Re: Squadron's Kit of the Year!?!?
	by KnnthS@aol.com
 23) RE:Decals WAS Hyperscale review
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 24) aviation drawings
	by "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 25) Thank you!
	by life
 26) RE: Model woods
	by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?=

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:24:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Plan
Message-ID: <20011121082439.3885.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com>

Brent,

Is the Gotha fuselage interior as complicated as it
looks?  I still think Eric ought to include on the box
the warning, "Not for the Faint Hearted".

Todd


--- Brent Theobald <halberstadtcl2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy Gang!
> 
> I am going to attempt to complete my Roden Fokker
> D.VII on Sunday. I am also 
> going to complete my "quick build" Aurura Fokker
> D.VII with the exception of 
> custom made decals. Lastly I am going to make more
> progress on the CSM 
> Gotha. I'd like to be able to close the fuse soon.
> 
> I'll let y'all know how it turns out. There may even
> be pictures!
> 
> Later!
> 
> Brent
> 
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:28:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Hayes <thayes_52601@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Non-Fokker triplanes in 1/72
Message-ID: <20011121082833.97039.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com>

Marcio,

I think Czech Master does a Pfalz Dr.I that would far
superior to the Merlin kit.

Todd


--- Marcio Antonio Campos
<marcio.campos@starmedia.net> wrote:
> Hello, folks!
> 
> After reading the Osprey book on German and Austrian
> aircraft, I got
> interested in non-Fokker triplanes, especially the
> curious Albatros Dr.I
> 
> So, question: are there injected kits in Bittner,
> Grzegorz and Marcio scale
> for these triplanes? D. told me Merlin made a Pfalz
> Dr.I, but I can't find
> it in the hobby shops I've searched till now.
> 
> (any comments on Eduard Albatros Dr.I in Duplo scale
> are forbidden :-D)
> 
> All the best from Brazil
> 
> Marcio Antonio Campos
> Redator do GuiaSP
> StarMedia do Brasil
> +55 11 30436421
> marcio.campos@starmedia.net
> http://www.guiasp.com.br
> http://www.guiarj.com.br
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:20:15 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: wood was RE: Albatros Cabanes - PE or not PE
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A077DFB5A@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

I wouldn't recommend walnut for small parts, it has a tendency to
splinter. My favorite is Mahogny, it also has a fine grain, and also
a nice colour. I did the prop of my Ni28 in walnut,it was pesky to 
carve, and when varnished turned out very dark, you can hardly see it's
made of wood, so what's the point? I think Basswood or bamboo stained 
dark would work well . I think there is a lot of Dicta-Ira in choice
of wood, IRL the colour varies greatly due to different kinds of varnish
/staining and different lighting. In fact struts are usually light 
coloured, but not always, and not on Spads. You need to check carefully.
I believe there should be a compromise between 100% historically correct
here, and what simply looks good. The subject of wood-type is very 
interesting, and I would welcome further discussion.
/Neil C.


Fraser wrote:
 While on the subject of struts I also have 
> some strips of
> walnut which I selected out of the rack at Hannants for lack 
> of grain and
> with which I'm thinking about making struts for my 1/32nd Camel and,
> eventually my BM Snipe as I'm less than impressed with BM's 
> ones which seem
> to be made of  extruded cheese. For these I will probably try 
> Lance's method
> as used on his Felixstowe (niiice model so far, look forward 
> to seeing it
> done).
> 

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:58:03 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Albatros Cabanes - PE or not PE
Message-ID: <003a01c1727b$66fbb3c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Hi Fraser!
> I took
> some 1/32 x 1/8 stock and planed it down somewhat using a titchy thumb
plane
> I acquired years ago then CAed strips to both sides.

Hold your horses! The idea is very good, but take in account that the
Albatros cabane struts were made of shaped steel tubing "flat" on the
inboard side and curved on the outboard. i guess that there's a picture of
this in the Albatros fighters special. So you may save a half of the total
work on this!

> While on the subject of struts I also have some strips of
> walnut which I selected out of the rack at Hannants for lack of grain and
> with which I'm thinking about making struts for my 1/32nd Camel and,
> eventually my BM Snipe as I'm less than impressed with BM's ones which
seem
> to be made of  extruded cheese. For these I will probably try Lance's
method
> as used on his Felixstowe (niiice model so far, look forward to seeing it
> done).

I've tried the bamboo method thanks to the collaboration of Steve Perry
(here in Argentina the chopsticks are made of a lousy wood and not bamboo)
and the worked like a charm. In just an hour or two I had decent struts for
my nieuport.
D.


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:50:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: List down?
Message-ID: <200111211250.HAA57408@mustang.sr.unh.edu>


Sorry folks, yesterday I shut the list down for what was intended to 
be 5 minutes to do some system work on my computer and I forgot to turn it
back on. It's all set now. I've been under the weather and even simple tasks
like tying my shoes seem to be giving me trouble - mea culpa.

Reminder: to check to see if the list is functioning, do NOT send a test post
to the list. Instead send a message to wwi-request@wwi-models.org with the
following in the BODY of the e-mail:

review wwi
end

If you get a reply then the list is working and just 'quiet' or something is
wrong with your subscription. If you do not get a reply then the list is 'down'
and an e-mail to me would be the best course of action.

Thanks for understanding,
Allan

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:09:49 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: British Airship colours
Message-ID: <F249h7uHelLBnELG2cz0000065b@hotmail.com>

Bob:

Do you have a book called "Battle Bags" or something?  Maybe that's a help.  
I have the book at home.

Michael

>From: Bob Pearson <bpearson@kaien.net>
>Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org
>To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
>Subject: [WWI] British Airship colours
>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:45:38 -0500 (EST)
>
>Hi all,
>
>I'm starting to get the urge to profile some SS, C, C*, SSZ and NS 
>airships.
>Anyone have any idea on the colour of the envelopes? They were usually
>rubberized fabric, and a checkerboard pattern is also evident in the fabric
>panels. Should be fun to illustrate.
>
>Bob
>


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:33:58 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Journal Subscriptions
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A077DFB5E@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

I highly recommend Windsock. C&C I don't know, and WW1 Aero
is very good but a little too difficult for my taste. It's 
very scientific and seems to me to have a lot of research
about the Wrights rivals and their claims, I'm happy to 
know that the Wrights flew first in December 1903, for the
rest I don't really care.
/Neil C.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J. Ernst [mailto:jernst@delucahomes.com]
> Sent: den 21 november 2001 13:44
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WWI] Re: Journal Subscriptions
> 
> 
> I'm sure someone out there will have an opinion about this.
> 
> A family member asked me for gift ideas, and I want to tell them a
> subscription to some WWI journal would be great. The question 
> is, which one?
> 
> I'm aware of Cross and Cockade, WWI Aero,  and Windsock. Are 
> there others?
> What are the differences?
> 
> I enjoy reading about WWI planes and pilots, but don't necessarily get
> caught up in the detail differences between each individual 
> serial number -
> does that help?
> 
> TIA. hopefully others were wondering the same thing.
> 
> john
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:56:52 -0600
From: "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Please help:  researching Austro-Hungarian WKF Dr1
Message-ID: <E163A98BC3D0D2119CAA0000832180C2086CBAB5@exchange6.health.state.ok.us>

Iban, it may not be much help but there is one picture of it here:
http://209.235.66.44/WW1/TriMadness/trimad.htm
<http://209.235.66.44/WW1/TriMadness/trimad.htm> 
Mack

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	iban [mailto:ibancorp@yahoo.com]
		Sent:	Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:46 AM
		To:	Multiple recipients of list
		Subject:	[WWI] Please help:  researching
Austro-Hungarian WKF Dr1

		Hello All,

		I'm trying to research the WKF triplane, and finding almost
nothing
		available on the net or in print.  If anyone has fotos or
drawings, or can
		point me to an authoritative reference work I can purchase,
I'd be most
		grateful.  Any help at all would be very much appreciated.

		Thanks!

		Iban


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:53:00 +0800
From: "Robert Baumgartner" <baumgartner@iprimus.com.au>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE:Decals WAS Hyperscale review
Message-ID: <004b01c1729c$37b41d20$de1932d2@rob>

Greetings all

Thanks Ross, Neil and D for the kind words on the Review!

The dramas I had with the decals got me thinking.
Has anyone else had problems with the silvering of decals that have a matt
carrier film?

Naturally they are applied on a gloss surface, but this would be nulified if
the carrier film was also matt on the underside of the decal.

Opinions please!

Cheers

Rob B






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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:51:35 -0500
From: "StefenK" <StefenK@netzero.net>
To: "WWI Modeling List" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Strut colours on Dutch DVII's 
Message-ID: <3BF98B120003EE7E@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com)

Cam, Mike, Volker--
The restored Dutch D. VIIs have a distinctly green take on "olive drab." 
The service history of Dutch D. VIIs is detailed at Hans Voessers site:

http://members.tripod.com/~Hans_Vossers/

http://members.tripod.com/~Hans_Vossers/d7html/d7index.htm

Additional images at:

http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/DeeJay/fokkerd7.jpg

http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/DeeJay/FokkerDVII.jpg

________
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:49:38 +0800 
From: Volker Haeusler 
To: wwi@wwi-models.org 
Subject: Re: Strut colours on Dutch DVII's 
Message-ID: 

Mike said: "Cam I'm catching up on email and saw this one. If no one has
responded, let me know. I took a bunch of photos that are at home of the
one at the Luchtvaart Museum. If memory serves, they were olive drab.  Mike
Muth" 

> Has anyone got an opinion on the Dutch DVII's strut colours? Gray? Black?
Brown? 

Also in the process of catching up (300+ to go...), but olive drab seems to
be right. The restored Dutch Fokker D VII F 266 shows that color, and in a
*great* article on flying the Fokker D VII (in it磗 role as a Dutch fighter
trainer - they would call that a "Lead In Fighter" today) by HJ van
Overvest in Air Enthusiast No 38, the author also mentions "olive drab".
There磗 also a profile of a Dutch D VII in that article that shows "D-20",
claiming that they were "Finished glossy dark olive drab overall". Volker 

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:00:52 EST
From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Squadron's Kit of the Year!?!?
Message-ID: <7e.1e3b67c7.292d1ba5@aol.com>


I'm sure that when Squadron sent the proofs of the 2002 catalog to the printers many months ago, Hi-Tech had promised delivery of the AEG G.IV long before now. It makes me wonder if Squadron had even seen the kit when they selected it for "Kit of the Year".  Kind of gutsy, when Hi-Tech kits, historically, have not enjoyed the reputation for accuracy and quality, as have some others.  I'm not knocking Hi-Tech. . . they do what they do and we can buy their kits or not.  I believe I have all of them (none built!) and have had the AEG G.IV on advance order with Squadron since they announced it.  Or, if you still believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, maybe Squadron has seen the kit and it is a "jewel".

Mike Kavanaugh



In a message dated Wed, 21 Nov 2001  7:46:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Brent Theobald" <halberstadtcl2@hotmail.com> writes:

(snip)

> My new Squadron color catalog arrived today. On the cover is the 2002 Kit of 
> the Year. Not the Roden Gotha, not the 1/32 Tamiya Zero but the Hi-Tech AEG 
> G.IV!!! I'm going to call in the morning to see if this kit is in... I'm 
> thinking it would be pretty ballsy to have a "Kit of the Year" that doesn't 
> really exist.


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:06:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Artur Golebiewski <kaczusia@yahoo.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: OT(almost) thingie and early aviation school anegdotes
Message-ID: <20011121150608.11689.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com>

  Aaah old aviation stories is what I love. 
  I seem to recall that last story from many different
sources, one variation of the story is one where the
insturctor, terrified actually bails out of the plane
and lands by parachute.
   Haber Wlynski also flew Albatross DIII machines
with a white fox painted on the  side. 
   Since we are on the subject of Polish aviation
legends and myths, what creedence do you give to the
old story/legend about how Ludomil Rayski ( who later
commanded the Polish Air Force )used his Albatros to
"mow down" the Cossack cavalry during the Bolshevik
war of 1920? That story seems to pop up here and there
but as the saying goes "in every legend there is a
grain of truth". How feasible do you think it would be
to actually fly low enough to where you could hit
horsemen with your wheels and lower planes? Personally
I think the story has been a stretch of the actual
event where some Polish ( and American Volunteer )
pilots would descend very low over the ground and fly
just above the heads of Budienny's ( Red Russian
Cavalry General ) cavalry troops, terryfing the horses
and causing large scale panic and mayhem. Artur


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:15:55 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: OT(almost) thingie and early aviation school anegdo
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A077DFB5F@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>


Agree with this, I hope I don't hurt anyones feelings, 
but I think horses are the most stupid animals on this 
planet, absolutely anything will scare them. So an
Albatross at full blow a couple of yards above them
would probably cause a collective horse heart-attack
with resulting mayhem.
/Neil C.



Artur wrote:
> I think the story has been a stretch of the actual
> event where some Polish ( and American Volunteer )
> pilots would descend very low over the ground and fly
> just above the heads of Budienny's ( Red Russian
> Cavalry General ) cavalry troops, terryfing the horses
> and causing large scale panic and mayhem. Artur
> 

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:17:36 -0700
From: ERIC HIGHT <copperst@sd.fastq.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20011121081144.020f4ec0@pop.amug.org>

dear group,
after deep battle discussions and plans marty and i have come up with the 
tentative list for next years kits and here they are:

1. a/h taube
2. aeg c.iv   yes we are doing this a/c!!!
3. rumpler c.i
4. av. c.i
5. fokker d.v(reissue)

all in 1/48th of course.

i am not sure of the order of release, but geez you can't have 
everything!!!  if time permits we may do some more.  i'll have to see how 
these go.  happy holidays to all!  thanks again for your continued support.
regards,
eric


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:30:21 -0600
From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Model woods
Message-ID: <sbfb7402.044@mail.amerus.com>

I have been using woods in plastic models for years.
I use them not just for props and struts, but dashboards, framing, bulkheads, and floors.

FWIW, I use veneers of three types.  These are chosen for:
A..  Tight grain
B.   Lack of pores; smooth surface
C..  Color

1.  Birch yields the lightest straw/tan color.
2.  Mahogany a mid reddish-brown.
3.  Walnut a dark brown

For props, I laminate seven layers of veneer.  I select the woods to emulate either the original material, or duplicate the colors.
For instance, many props were stained and that tended to obscure, but not hide, the laminations;
I would use mahogany and walnut for this.
For props with bold color contrasts, like Axial, I use birch and walnut.

Basswood is ideal for "dimensional" lumber:  planking and struts.
It has straight, tight grain.
It's easy to carve and sands smooth.
It takes stains evenly.
It's cheap and easily found.
I also use it to carve masters for vacuform molds.

Long post, sorry.  I hope this helps.

Lance  


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:31:57 EST
From: KnnthS@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Multifarious Sport Shoes, Minimum Price USD 1.2 Per Pair
Message-ID: <ab.129e8d74.292d22ed@aol.com>


In a message dated 21/11/01 4:44:36 am, ibs4421@commandnet.net writes:

<< Ken,
       will you be getting yours with the blue or salmon pink soles.  Of
course there will be those that say both colors would be appropriate on the
same pair.
 >>

"Salmon" 
And only from the Friendly Folks at Pegasus.
I will use the Salmon rib tapes as well. This is no 'field mod' but straight 
up store bought, ya ax me....

Kenneth, in CDL until the store is open.

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:35:14 -0500
From: "Tom Plesha" <plesha3@home.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT
Message-ID: <000501c172a2$1dba46a0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com>

YEAH TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!
Take my order now.
Later
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "ERIC HIGHT" <copperst@sd.fastq.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:25 AM
Subject: [WWI] CSM ANNOUNCEMENT


> dear group,
> after deep battle discussions and plans marty and i have come up with the
> tentative list for next years kits and here they are:
>
> 1. a/h taube
> 2. aeg c.iv   yes we are doing this a/c!!!
> 3. rumpler c.i
> 4. av. c.i
> 5. fokker d.v(reissue)
>
> all in 1/48th of course.
>
> i am not sure of the order of release, but geez you can't have
> everything!!!  if time permits we may do some more.  i'll have to see how
> these go.  happy holidays to all!  thanks again for your continued
support.
> regards,
> eric
>
>


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:51:09 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE:Decals WAS Hyperscale review
Message-ID: <002b01c172a4$56f53cc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Maybe snipping most of the carrier film around the decal figure and using
liberal amounts of decal softener once it is applied????????
D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Baumgartner <baumgartner@iprimus.com.au>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 11:55 AM
Subject: [WWI] RE:Decals WAS Hyperscale review


> Greetings all
>
> Thanks Ross, Neil and D for the kind words on the Review!
>
> The dramas I had with the decals got me thinking.
> Has anyone else had problems with the silvering of decals that have a matt
> carrier film?
>
> Naturally they are applied on a gloss surface, but this would be nulified
if
> the carrier film was also matt on the underside of the decal.
>
> Opinions please!
>
> Cheers
>
> Rob B
>
>
>
>
>


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:45:24 +0100
From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Model woods
Message-ID: <E1E573FB5D0AD41195CF00508BCF882A077DFB60@vsegn335.it.volvo.se>

I vote this post of the day! Thanks Lance especially as you
do nearly exactly the same as I do:-)

The tip about walnut and Mahogny was a good one, I forget it 
every time I do a prop. In fact perhaps it might be too much
of a good thing in 1/72, I can only get in about 4-5 laminations
so only 2 would be walnut, it might look a bit odd? But one
day in the far future, I'm going to do a 1/36 prop, and then I
will definitely do it this way. Another thing I always forget
is to put the laminations in different directions. 
/Neil C.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance Krieg [mailto:lance.krieg@amerus.com]
> Sent: den 21 november 2001 16:32
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WWI] Model woods
> 
> 
> I have been using woods in plastic models for years.
> I use them not just for props and struts, but dashboards, 
> framing, bulkheads, and floors.
> 
> FWIW, I use veneers of three types.  These are chosen for:
> A..  Tight grain
> B.   Lack of pores; smooth surface
> C..  Color
> 
> 1.  Birch yields the lightest straw/tan color.
> 2.  Mahogany a mid reddish-brown.
> 3.  Walnut a dark brown
> 
> For props, I laminate seven layers of veneer.  I select the 
> woods to emulate either the original material, or duplicate 
> the colors.
> For instance, many props were stained and that tended to 
> obscure, but not hide, the laminations;
> I would use mahogany and walnut for this.
> For props with bold color contrasts, like Axial, I use birch 
> and walnut.
> 
> Basswood is ideal for "dimensional" lumber:  planking and struts.
> It has straight, tight grain.
> It's easy to carve and sands smooth.
> It takes stains evenly.
> It's cheap and easily found.
> I also use it to carve masters for vacuform molds.
> 
> Long post, sorry.  I hope this helps.
> 
> Lance  
> 

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:45:56 EST
From: KnnthS@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT
Message-ID: <127.7716673.292d2634@aol.com>


In a message dated 21/11/01 7:25:29 am, copperst@sd.fastq.com writes:

<< but geez you can't have 
everything!!!   >>

something for everone (of a certain scale)

The fact that all these and more were under consideration is great.
The others on the original list is just something to look fwd to.

thank you CSM!


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:48:16 EST
From: KnnthS@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Squadron's Kit of the Year!?!?
Message-ID: <23.14bf1574.292d26c0@aol.com>


In a message dated 21/11/01 7:02:48 am, CoolSpadLuke@aol.com writes:

<< believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, maybe 
Squadron has seen the kit and it is a "jewel". >>

you mean they're not?

what about The Great Pumpkin?

-Hoping, in MN

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:50:51 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE:Decals WAS Hyperscale review
Message-ID: <F14cLuoH7cvO49sKcaB0000d0e8@hotmail.com>

Bob:

Did you use Future underneath it or some facimile thereof?

BTW, an excellent model - the weathering job was outstanding.

Michael

>
> > The dramas I had with the decals got me thinking.
> > Has anyone else had problems with the silvering of decals that have a 
>matt
> > carrier film?
> >
> > Naturally they are applied on a gloss surface, but this would be 
>nulified
>if
> > the carrier film was also matt on the underside of the decal.
> >
> > Opinions please!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Rob B
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:58:00 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: "ww1 list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: aviation drawings
Message-ID: <004001c172a5$4be73b20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Check these drawings of amazing flying machines. Is there any kit for these?
;-)
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/doc/dastardly/ms/4731.html
D.


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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:53:11 +0800
From: life
To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Thank you!
Message-ID: <DDNm8kQPxw4SNmzW406000002dd@163.org>

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:54:56 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?=
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Model woods
Message-ID: <A7A733919B58D4118E5000508BDF4D6103D62A46@vsegn355.it.volvo.se>

FWIW. I磛 used laminated 0,8 plywood for props with "some" success.
Looked good in my eyes anyway.

M錼ten

-----Original Message-----
From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com]
Sent: den 21 november 2001 16:49
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WWI] RE: Model woods


I vote this post of the day! Thanks Lance especially as you
do nearly exactly the same as I do:-)

The tip about walnut and Mahogny was a good one, I forget it 
every time I do a prop. In fact perhaps it might be too much
of a good thing in 1/72, I can only get in about 4-5 laminations
so only 2 would be walnut, it might look a bit odd? But one
day in the far future, I'm going to do a 1/36 prop, and then I
will definitely do it this way. Another thing I always forget
is to put the laminations in different directions. 
/Neil C.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance Krieg [mailto:lance.krieg@amerus.com]
> Sent: den 21 november 2001 16:32
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WWI] Model woods
> 
> 
> I have been using woods in plastic models for years.
> I use them not just for props and struts, but dashboards, 
> framing, bulkheads, and floors.
> 
> FWIW, I use veneers of three types.  These are chosen for:
> A..  Tight grain
> B.   Lack of pores; smooth surface
> C..  Color
> 
> 1.  Birch yields the lightest straw/tan color.
> 2.  Mahogany a mid reddish-brown.
> 3.  Walnut a dark brown
> 
> For props, I laminate seven layers of veneer.  I select the 
> woods to emulate either the original material, or duplicate 
> the colors.
> For instance, many props were stained and that tended to 
> obscure, but not hide, the laminations;
> I would use mahogany and walnut for this.
> For props with bold color contrasts, like Axial, I use birch 
> and walnut.
> 
> Basswood is ideal for "dimensional" lumber:  planking and struts.
> It has straight, tight grain.
> It's easy to carve and sands smooth.
> It takes stains evenly.
> It's cheap and easily found.
> I also use it to carve masters for vacuform molds.
> 
> Long post, sorry.  I hope this helps.
> 
> Lance  
> 

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