WWI Digest 3908 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Large Scale Plastic by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 2) Nieuport 11 fuselage by MLawder@t-online.de 3) EBay Item by Balzer Mr Gregory P 4) Hat Horses and.... by "Neil Eddy" 5) Re: Does anyone know what happened to by "ibs4421" 6) Re: Foreign Fokker D.VIIs by "Muth and Zulick" 7) Paint Question by "ibs4421" 8) Multifarious Sport Shoes, Minimum Price USD 1.2 Per Pair by "Long Tan" 9) Re: Paint Question by "Michael Kendix" 10) Re: Multifarious Sport Shoes, Minimum Price USD 1.2 Per Pair by "ibs4421" 11) ot: The satrap in us by "Diego Fernetti" 12) Re: Paint Question by "ibs4421" 13) Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question by "ibs4421" 14) RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question by Balzer Mr Gregory P 15) RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question by "Gaston Graf" 16) RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question by Balzer Mr Gregory P 17) RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question by "Harris, Mack" 18) =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E8chettes_was_RE:_some_plants_are_just_mean_WAS:_disappe?= by "Gaston Graf" 19) RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question by Balzer Mr Gregory P 20) Re: Hansa-Brandenburg G.I by "Brent Theobald" 21) Fe2.b cockpit detail question by Sanjeev Hirve 22) Fe2.b cockpit detail question by "Diego Fernetti" 23) Thanksgiving Weekend Plan by "Brent Theobald" 24) Non-Fokker triplanes in 1/72 by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 25) Re: Paint Question by "Muth and Zulick" 26) Albatros Cabanes - PE or not PE by "fraser" 27) Re: Non-Fokker triplanes in 1/72 by "Brian Nicklas" 28) Re: Non-Fokker triplanes in 1/72 by "Michael Kendix" 29) Re: Paint Question by KnnthS@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:02:09 EST From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Large Scale Plastic Message-ID: <4f.148fb0c8.292bae51@aol.com> > < Blueprint label?>> The 1/24 Fokker D.VIII I bought from Bluprint has plans and parts marked as Marco's Miniatures. In talking with Mike Ridlon, Bluprint owner, I understand that he bought what was Marco's Miniatures and is continuing the line plus he is working up some new OT kits along similar lines. FWIW, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:06:43 +0100 (MET) From: MLawder@t-online.de To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: Mlawder@t-online.de Subject: Nieuport 11 fuselage Message-ID: <1006260727.3bfa51f7214fb@webmail.t-online.de> Hi, I've just bought the Eduard Ni. 11 (1/48) kit, but looking through my meagre references (Replic, Scale Models, Windsock starting from Vol.5, scale aircraft modelling, etc) it is still unclear to me whether the Nieuport 11 had plywood fuselage sides in around the cockpit. I can see obvious differences in the structure of the seat/joystick/aileron mechanism in the photo's from Windsock vol 5 nos 3 + 4, but I've no idea about the cockpit sides. Any answers Matt ? Cheers...........Martin Lawder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:24:59 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: EBay Item Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C976BF9E05@TECOM03E> Good Morning All, I have had my sights set on a DML DVII for some time now. Found one on ebay. The below link is the kit I'm interested in. Don't have access to all of the list aliases on ebay, anybody else bidding on it?? Don't want to step on any toes. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1665064993 /R/ Greg Balzer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:45:22 +1100 From: "Neil Eddy" To: Subject: Hat Horses and.... Message-ID: <001f01c171c9$9aca5100$d32032d2@mannock> Hi Warren; Yup that was me some time ago with that question re the scale and size of the Hat Horses in the RFA set - if they were Ok I'd mix them with the Emhar British artillery set in a diorama idea I have....Any information on these pesky nags would be appreciated... Thanks everyone for the info re PE emma gees - I feel I shouldn't have any trouble with them when I attempt a build... Hats off to Rob Baumgartner on yet another superlative build...must be something in the Perth water : ) also .....wait for it .....sounds of laughing Kangaroos ...Australia 1 ....Uruguay 0! (penalty after foul on Kewell) Now we have to beat them in Montevideo... : ) All the Best' Neil E ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:16:21 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Does anyone know what happened to Message-ID: <005101c171cd$ee928a60$8f3dfad1@ibs4421> Ross, I can't find the e-mail I got from them, but it had to do with the forum going down and their losing some of the posts as Mark mentioned. Seems to me they have had some problems since they changed some things a few months back. I hope they get it resolved. Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:17 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Does anyone know what happened to > I really can't see it being a bandwidth issue with their host. Maybe Warren > can shed some light if he can find the e-mail he got from them. ?? > > Ross > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Miller" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:52 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Does anyone know what happened to > > > | Ross > | I'm getting the same thing > | I was just over there about an hour ago so it must have just happened. > | > | They have had some problems lately. The forum went down a week or so ago > and a lot of posts were lost. > | hope that doesn't happen again. > | > | mark > | > | On Mon, 19 November 2001, "Ross Moorhouse" wrote: > | > | > > | > http://www.theaerodrome.com/ I looked in on their forums yesterday and > now > | > when I go there I get "Welcome to the Skyport Network" ??? > | > > | > Cheers > | > > | > Ross > | > | > | Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > | http://www.shopping.altavista.com > | > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:47:50 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Foreign Fokker D.VIIs Message-ID: <008c01c171d2$54d1f000$0100005a@ptd.net> Interesting. The penguin shows up on one of the 2-seaters in the Brussels Museum, either the RE8 or the Bristol, can't remember which. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday,November 18,2001 5:57 PM Subject: [WWI] Foreign Fokker D.VIIs > For those curious on what is contained in the 1/72nd version of the > Blue Rider decal sheet "Foreign Fokker D.VIIs" go here: > http://www.insigniamag.com/cg7202.jpg > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:19:48 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Paint Question Message-ID: <006901c171d6$cbc1cba0$8f3dfad1@ibs4421> Folks, I am about to go to the hobby shop to get some more paint. I seem to recall a past admonition in a prior post that had something to do with laying acrylic paint on top of enamel or the other way around. Understand that almost all of my model painting experience in the long ago past dealt with oil-based enamels. Please advise me as to this rule, if it exists, about combining the two mediums on the same model. TIA! My thanks to everyone who replied to my query regarding p/e spandau rolling. Gosh Wally, I love this list! Warren nb: Eduard Fokker F.1 ne: cinamon bagel with cream cheese np: Louis Prima ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:57:01 +0800 From: "Long Tan" To: Buyer.of.shoes Subject: Multifarious Sport Shoes, Minimum Price USD 1.2 Per Pair Message-ID: <200111201511.AEG04880@md2.gx163.net> Dear Sir, Madam, We are supplying multifarious sport shoes, flying shoes, leisure shoes, tour shoes, jogging shoes, sandals, footwares, climb Shoes, etc. We have good qualities and much good new styles, minimum FOB price will be only USD 3.5 per pair; and stock 26500 pair will be underselled within USD 1.2 par pair. If you are interested in our shoes, please do not hesitate to contact us. You will can see and choose above shoes and multifarious slipper by clicking here: http://www.chunpai.com/first-english.htm Best regards Sincerely Mr. Long Tan ( Satrap ) ============================================================== GUILIN LINGUI SHENGPING XIAOXUE BAMBOO & WOOD MANUFACTORY ( LINGUI OFFICE OF GUILIN TEXTILES IMPORTS/EXPORTS CORP. ) Address: No. 229 Rongshan Road, Lingui, Guilin, Guangxi, China Tel: ++86-773-5592687 Fax: ++86-773-5592687 E-mail: chunpai@public.glptt.gx.cn Web Site: www.chunpai.com/first-english.htm Postalcode: 541100 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:36:25 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paint Question Message-ID: Warren: I don't think there is any concern about using regular enamel paint like Humbrol or Testors on top or underneath regular acrylic paint like Mister Kit, testors, Aeromaster etc. The key, I believe, is to let the stuff dry completely, else you could have problems, however, I use oil-based washes on top of acrylics, deliberately because if the base coat was enamel, it would be ruined by the oil wash. Let it dry/cure completely. Remember,as someone who passed his "Physics-with-Chemistry" O-Level with a grade 6 in 1974 (Mr. Schofield, high school physics teacher, aren't you impressed?), I would say that if you can smell it, it's not dry/cured. Build something else while it's doing it's thing. It's always best to have a dozen or so kits going at once anyway. Michael >Folks, > I am about to go to the hobby shop to get some more paint. I >seem >to recall a past admonition in a prior post that had something to do with >laying acrylic paint on top of enamel or the other way around. Understand >that almost all of my model painting experience in the long ago past dealt >with oil-based enamels. Please advise me as to this rule, if it exists, >about combining the two mediums on the same model. TIA! > My thanks to everyone who replied to my query regarding p/e spandau >rolling. Gosh Wally, I love this list! > >Warren > >nb: Eduard Fokker F.1 >ne: cinamon bagel with cream cheese >np: Louis Prima > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:41:59 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Multifarious Sport Shoes, Minimum Price USD 1.2 Per Pair Message-ID: <007301c171d9$e4bcb9a0$8f3dfad1@ibs4421> I say we go for the flying shoes, eh? Does anyone know if these folks offer them in 4 or 5 color lozenge? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:47:39 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: ot: The satrap in us Message-ID: <00bb01c171da$afe03440$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Forgive me to waste a little bandwith but after reading Mr. Long Tan's message and his title:( Satrap ) makes me wonder if in english language this adjective isn't an awful way to introduce yourself. Is this common prsctice in english/chinese/oriental languages? At least in our common parlance, to say "Hi, I'm a satrap" it's equivalent to say "Hi, I'm a dictator". Please answer offlist! TIA D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:47:30 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Paint Question Message-ID: <007901c171da$aa82e9c0$8f3dfad1@ibs4421> Michael, These were my thoughts as well. I do remember using some Polly S ( or whatever it was called back in '73) on some figures where all of the other paints were oil-based enamels with no negative results. I remember well learing to do washes back then with the ususal "lifting", etc. Thanks for geting back so quickly. I may actually try to bend my first p/e today. Feeling Real Froggy, Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:52:33 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Message-ID: <008101c171db$5ea2f940$8f3dfad1@ibs4421> Listers, After reading the Windsock Datafile Special on the Fokker Dr.1, I still know very little about what I should do regarding the instrumentation in the cockpit of my F.1. Seems the only sure thing regarding the interior is the compass. The p/e framework that comes with the kit has a couple of non-descript dials/gauges that fold down. The Datafile special states that little is known about what should go/be where int he cockpit. Has any other information surfaced regarding this since the publication of the Datafile Special? As far as I am concerned, Dicta Ira prevails, but if it is possile for me to know, within reason, what is what, and where it should be, I would be a happy camper. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:01:53 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C976BF9E1D@TECOM03E> Warren, Your research into this matter is about as good as it's gonna get. Since there are no known surviving examples of the F.1/Dr.1, everything is Dicta Ira. I have a series of files that I have cut and pasted into word documents in conducting research for the build of my Dr. 1. Below is what I have concerning instrumentation: "I can find references to only 3: apart from a German Army compass- they were the fuel quantity gauge in the dimple between the machine guns, a fuel pressure gauge on the lower left cockpit side wall, and a tachometer on the lower right hand cockpit side wall." Hope this helps. Greg -----Original Message----- From: ibs4421 [mailto:ibs4421@commandnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Listers, After reading the Windsock Datafile Special on the Fokker Dr.1, I still know very little about what I should do regarding the instrumentation in the cockpit of my F.1. Seems the only sure thing regarding the interior is the compass. The p/e framework that comes with the kit has a couple of non-descript dials/gauges that fold down. The Datafile special states that little is known about what should go/be where int he cockpit. Has any other information surfaced regarding this since the publication of the Datafile Special? As far as I am concerned, Dicta Ira prevails, but if it is possile for me to know, within reason, what is what, and where it should be, I would be a happy camper. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:03:29 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Message-ID: Wasn't it: Altimeter in the middle between the guns, rpm counter on top of the cowl, compass on the cockpit floor, front right of the seat? Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Listers, > After reading the Windsock Datafile Special on the > Fokker Dr.1, > I still know very little about what I should do regarding the > instrumentation in the cockpit of my F.1. Seems the only sure thing > regarding the interior is the compass. The p/e framework that comes with > the kit has a couple of non-descript dials/gauges that fold down. The > Datafile special states that little is known about what should go/be where > int he cockpit. Has any other information surfaced regarding > this since the > publication of the Datafile Special? As far as I am concerned, Dicta Ira > prevails, but if it is possile for me to know, within reason, > what is what, > and where it should be, I would be a happy camper. > > Warren > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:06:38 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C976BF9E1E@TECOM03E> Warren, You might also want to check out this site. They are building a replica Dr. 1, and have a series of detailed photos of the interior. Be sure to check out the "photoscope" pictures. I don't know whether their instrumentation is based on research, or whether it is a result of "modern" flight requirements. Dicta Ira!! http://memorial.flight.free.fr/indexuk.html Greg -----Original Message----- From: ibs4421 [mailto:ibs4421@commandnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Listers, After reading the Windsock Datafile Special on the Fokker Dr.1, I still know very little about what I should do regarding the instrumentation in the cockpit of my F.1. Seems the only sure thing regarding the interior is the compass. The p/e framework that comes with the kit has a couple of non-descript dials/gauges that fold down. The Datafile special states that little is known about what should go/be where int he cockpit. Has any other information surfaced regarding this since the publication of the Datafile Special? As far as I am concerned, Dicta Ira prevails, but if it is possile for me to know, within reason, what is what, and where it should be, I would be a happy camper. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:18:33 -0600 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Message-ID: You might also look at this site, they have built a Dr.1 also. http://www.collectors-edition.com/f-t-s_titel_english.htm Mack -----Original Message----- From: Balzer Mr Gregory P [mailto:balzergp@tecom.usmc.mil] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Warren, You might also want to check out this site. They are building a replica Dr. 1, and have a series of detailed photos of the interior. Be sure to check out the "photoscope" pictures. I don't know whether their instrumentation is based on research, or whether it is a result of "modern" flight requirements. Dicta Ira!! http://memorial.flight.free.fr/indexuk.html Greg -----Original Message----- From: ibs4421 [mailto:ibs4421@commandnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Listers, After reading the Windsock Datafile Special on the Fokker Dr.1, I still know very little about what I should do regarding the instrumentation in the cockpit of my F.1. Seems the only sure thing regarding the interior is the compass. The p/e framework that comes with the kit has a couple of non-descript dials/gauges that fold down. The Datafile special states that little is known about what should go/be where int he cockpit. Has any other information surfaced regarding this since the publication of the Datafile Special? As far as I am concerned, Dicta Ira prevails, but if it is possile for me to know, within reason, what is what, and where it should be, I would be a happy camper. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:18:33 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E8chettes_was_RE:_some_plants_are_just_mean_WAS:_disappe?= Message-ID: Yes that's correct - they called them Flèchettes, but it must have been the same type of darts they used against ground troops than they used against aircraft. Until this day I have not found any information about a different type of darts used against aircraft. The dart that Jean Dauphin owns is in very good condition. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > . It is true that they threw bricks, > > bottles, darts and other stuff at each other in the stone age > of air war. > > > Gaston, > > were those steel darts what was called "flechettes"? I've seen > some pictures > of them and IIRC they were meant to be used not against aicraft passing by > but as darts against soldiers on the ground. The pilot or observer would > empty a box load of them overboard and that was it. Sort of "pennies from > heaven" stuff... > > Pedro > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:19:58 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C976BF9E20@TECOM03E> Gaston, You're probably right, at least concerning the tachometer on the cowling, and of course the compass. I'm at work and don't have access to all of my stuff, so I'll continue to look. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Gaston Graf [mailto:ggraf@vo.lu] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Fokker F.1/Dr.1 Instrumentation Question Wasn't it: Altimeter in the middle between the guns, rpm counter on top of the cowl, compass on the cockpit floor, front right of the seat? Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Listers, > After reading the Windsock Datafile Special on the > Fokker Dr.1, > I still know very little about what I should do regarding the > instrumentation in the cockpit of my F.1. Seems the only sure thing > regarding the interior is the compass. The p/e framework that comes with > the kit has a couple of non-descript dials/gauges that fold down. The > Datafile special states that little is known about what should go/be where > int he cockpit. Has any other information surfaced regarding > this since the > publication of the Datafile Special? As far as I am concerned, Dicta Ira > prevails, but if it is possile for me to know, within reason, > what is what, > and where it should be, I would be a happy camper. > > Warren > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:27:54 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hansa-Brandenburg G.I Message-ID: Hi Todd, >During a discussion on Jager Miniatures, it was >mentioned that some manufacturer was doing the >Hansa-Brandenburg G.I in 1/48. Does anyone know who >is actually doing the kit? I'm thinking it might be >Hi-Tech. That's pretty funny. They will have it out within a year of their AEG! In a related story I dug out my Merlin HB G.I. (SP inspires me you know...) I figure with scratchbuilt wings, control surfaces and interior this will be a great little model! Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:46:01 -0500 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: Fe2.b cockpit detail question Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C978@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Hey folks, Its me again, still building the FE2.b. This time I am trying to figure out the shape of the instrument panel. My only source for this is the Datafile photo on pg 20 and a drawing of the instrument panel on the same page. From the photo it is obvious that the panel is not flat (in top view). So there are the following possibilities: 1- panel has gentle bend in the middle, unlikely, as the bend would mess up the strip-guage thingy. 2- the panel has a sharp fold in the middle, again unlikely for same reason 3- the panel has 2 folds or gentle bends, leaving the middle portion flat. In top view the panel would look something like this (front of craft facing downward): \_/ The line drawing in DF gives no clue to the shape. Any definitive evidence, opinion, or speculation will be greatly appreciated. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:11:56 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: Fe2.b cockpit detail question Message-ID: <004901c171ee$d768a880$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Sanjeev! You've a sense of opportunity, as I have here the FE2b datafile in my briefcase! I brought it here to scan some drawings. To me it's a bend along the curvature of the opening. Check the picture below that drawing. The instruments on the pilot's office are displayed on a different way, but the turn/bank indicator (the strip gauge thingie you referred to) is there, suspended across the front panel perhaps by mean of a support in each end. Below this instrument you can see what I think is the compass dial, in place of the map holder of the drawing on the top of the page. There's what I think it is a small folded map at the starboard side of the cockpit. Also check these pictures from Steve Cox's website: http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/FE/FE.html HTH D. Besides, we've stated that "thingie" was the name for those curiously shaped bits strung in the rigging. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sanjeev Hirve To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:48 PM Subject: [WWI] Fe2.b cockpit detail question > Hey folks, > Its me again, still building the FE2.b. This time I am trying to figure > out the shape of the instrument panel. My only source for this is the > Datafile photo on pg 20 and a drawing of the instrument panel on the same > page. From the photo it is obvious that the panel is not flat (in top > view). So there are the following possibilities: > 1- panel has gentle bend in the middle, unlikely, as the bend would mess up > the strip-guage thingy. > 2- the panel has a sharp fold in the middle, again unlikely for same reason > 3- the panel has 2 folds or gentle bends, leaving the middle portion flat. > In top view the panel would look something like this (front of craft facing > downward): > > \_/ > > The line drawing in DF gives no clue to the shape. > Any definitive evidence, opinion, or speculation will be greatly > appreciated. > regards > SSH > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:57:20 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Thanksgiving Weekend Plan Message-ID: Howdy Gang! I am going to attempt to complete my Roden Fokker D.VII on Sunday. I am also going to complete my "quick build" Aurura Fokker D.VII with the exception of custom made decals. Lastly I am going to make more progress on the CSM Gotha. I'd like to be able to close the fuse soon. I'll let y'all know how it turns out. There may even be pictures! Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:00:30 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Non-Fokker triplanes in 1/72 Message-ID: <002701c171fe$02447fc0$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Hello, folks! After reading the Osprey book on German and Austrian aircraft, I got interested in non-Fokker triplanes, especially the curious Albatros Dr.I So, question: are there injected kits in Bittner, Grzegorz and Marcio scale for these triplanes? D. told me Merlin made a Pfalz Dr.I, but I can't find it in the hobby shops I've searched till now. (any comments on Eduard Albatros Dr.I in Duplo scale are forbidden :-D) All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:05:40 -0500 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Paint Question Message-ID: <00c301c171f6$5906dcc0$0100005a@ptd.net> I may actually try to bend my first p/e today. > > Feeling Real Froggy, > > Warren Warren Wow, there's a phrase I javen't heard in awhile! I agree with Mike K. THere should be no problem using acrylics over enamels or vice-versa so long as you make sure the first coat is dry. I use both when doing 5 color French Camo without any problems. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:04:34 +0100 From: "fraser" To: Subject: Albatros Cabanes - PE or not PE Message-ID: <00d901c171f6$af21b580$187914d4@fraserinprague> Hi, Having read a few disgruntled comments regarding Eduards PE cabane struts for the Alb DV, and agreeing totally - they are pretty flimsy - I thought I'd try and beef 'em up a bit. What I'm doing ( taking pictures as I go which my wife will probably use when she finally has me committed) is laminating them with some bits of basswood from a ship kit leftovers. I took some 1/32 x 1/8 stock and planed it down somewhat using a titchy thumb plane I acquired years ago then CAed strips to both sides. The one I've completed is really stiff now and just needs further sanding to airfoil section(ish). I get the impression from Albatros fighters in Action that the cabanes were metal. Were they? While on the subject of struts I also have some strips of walnut which I selected out of the rack at Hannants for lack of grain and with which I'm thinking about making struts for my 1/32nd Camel and, eventually my BM Snipe as I'm less than impressed with BM's ones which seem to be made of extruded cheese. For these I will probably try Lance's method as used on his Felixstowe (niiice model so far, look forward to seeing it done). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:10:05 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Non-Fokker triplanes in 1/72 Message-ID: Marcio, No injected kits in the True scale for the Albatros Dr.I, but Roseplane has a conversion in the Roseparts series. Has three wing and some bits. For use on the Airfix kit, but that was before Pegasus and way before Eduard had D.Vs available. Somewhere I have this set, I just hope the resin wings are still straight and not warped to fit wherever they are hiding... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:29:16 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Non-Fokker triplanes in 1/72 Message-ID: >From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" > >After reading the Osprey book on German and Austrian aircraft, I got >interested in non-Fokker triplanes, especially the curious Albatros >Dr.I > >So, question: are there injected kits in Bittner, Grzegorz and Marcio scale >for these triplanes? D. told me Merlin made a Pfalz Dr.I, but I can't find >it in the hobby shops I've searched till now. > >(any comments on Eduard Albatros Dr.I in Duplo scale are forbidden :-D) Marcio: Well, Sanjeev Hirve did a nice 1/48th scale one that's on Roll Models' site but we'll pass over that at your request. I assume you're only interested in Axis stuff (eyes roll back in head!). There's a Siemens Schukert DDr.I resin & vacuform kit from Roseplane. It is a very nice kit in the sense of the pieces being well designed, but the fact that it's a triplane, with a boom tail and a front and back propeller (really, I'm not making this stuff up), means I found it somewhat challenging. You can read about my trials and tribulations at: http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/february/aviation/SSW_DDrI.htm My advice is not to attempt that particular kit just yet but if you go for a vac or resin kit, try something a touch more straightforward to begin. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:36:36 EST From: KnnthS@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paint Question Message-ID: <4e.1fc6462.292c0ac4@aol.com> In a message dated 20/11/01 7:22:51 am, ibs4421@commandnet.net writes: << laying acrylic paint on top of enamel or the other way around. >> Hi Warren- oil doesn't like acrylic. simple rule: oil, oil oil, acrylic acrylic, acrylic not acrylic, oil respective order = ) Ken ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3908 **********************