WWI Digest 3896
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: proportional detail and the youth of the world
by Shane Weier
2)
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?=
3) Re: proportional detail and the youth of the world
by "Matt Bittner"
4) Re: proportional detail and the youth of the world
by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins)
5) Re: Bugs Benny
by KnnthS@aol.com
6) Re: Patently Ridcialous
by KnnthS@aol.com
7) Re: proportional detail and the youth of the world
by Dennis Ugulano
8) Re: 24 Squadron markings
by "Steven Perry"
9) Re: 24 Squadron markings
by "Steven Perry"
10) WWI] Re: newbie to list
by "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
11) Work & Modeling (Kinda Long)
by "Brent Theobald"
12) RE: New web goodies
by "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
13) RE: New web goodies
by "Steven Perry"
14) RE: D.VII has rehabilitaated herself
by "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
15) RE: New web goodies
by Shane Weier
16) RE: New web goodies
by "Steven Perry"
17) RE: New web goodies
by Shane Weier
18) Re: Exhaust channel - Dixie Lee
by Bob Pearson
19) Age old scale tug of war
by Artur Golebiewski
20) Re: D.VII
by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
21) Re: Age old scale tug of war
by "Michael Kendix"
22) RE: Age old scale tug of war
by Shane Weier
23) Re: Age old scale tug of war
by KnnthS@aol.com
24) Re: Age old scale tug of war
by Shane Weier
25) there is no rest for old soldiers
by "Diego Fernetti"
26) RE: Age old scale tug of war
by "Diego Fernetti"
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:34:15 +1000
From: Shane Weier
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: Re: proportional detail and the youth of the world
Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD77E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au>
Ken,
> do 72nd scalers wear hairnets so they don't confuse with rigging?
> the ones with hair, I mean.
No, that can't be right. Monsieur Nung-bittner is a bald as a billiard ball.
He must be, since his photo always gets ruined by the bright reflection
obscuring his face
Shane
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:39:50 -0300
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?=
To: "WWI Lista"
Message-ID: <000f01c16dc1$dc095780$b70de818@fibertel.com.ar>
what happed in the list.
no news from 13/11/01-03:43 pm
Problem???????...............
Help!!!!!!!!!
Martin H. AFFLITTO
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:40:34 -0800
From: "Matt Bittner"
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org"
Subject: Re: proportional detail and the youth of the world
Message-ID:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:39:40 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote:
> No, that can't be right. Monsieur Nung-bittner is a bald as a billiard ball.
>
> He must be, since his photo always gets ruined by the bright reflection
> obscuring his face
Sounds like one speaking from experience. Nope, not bald,
not even balding; nor is there a receding hair line (quick, what do you
call 1000 rabbits marching backwards?).
Hair...some of us have it; then there's Shane. ;-)
Matt Bittner
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:46:07 -0600
From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins)
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: proportional detail and the youth of the world
Message-ID:
>do 72nd scalers wear hairnets so they don't confuse with rigging?
>the ones with hair, I mean.
Most of us don't need hair nets. Almost all of what was on top is now
suspended between the wings of lovely well built WWI models.
JP
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:51:43 EST
From: KnnthS@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Bugs Benny
Message-ID: <33.1dfc0ffa.2925a0ff@aol.com>
you mean bug-Hare-ing out?
receding maroons?
1,000 maniacs?
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:54:14 EST
From: KnnthS@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Patently Ridcialous
Message-ID:
thereyago
Can no longer rig in 72nd and the glare IS ferocious.
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:56:31 -0500
From: Dennis Ugulano
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org"
Subject: Re: proportional detail and the youth of the world
Message-ID: <200111151856_MC3-E710-C980@compuserve.com>
>> what do you
call 1000 rabbits marching backwards?). <<
A receding hair line
Dennis Ugulano
email: Uggies@compuserve.com
http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm
Page Revised 10/13/01
"Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism."
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:04:27 -0500
From: "Steven Perry"
To:
Subject: Re: 24 Squadron markings
Message-ID: <017801c16e32$42556f40$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Much is made in the literature regarding the famous "sawtooth" markings
used on 24 Squadron aircraft (of
> interest to me currently, because I'm working...slowly...on my DH.2);
however, when looking at some of the
> photos in the publications I've got (including the Datafile and the
Squadron "In Action"), these markings do not
> always appear to be present on aircraft used by this unit. Anyone have
any info on the time of use for these
> markings?
Peter:
There were a series of orders which came out during the late Spring and
early Summer of 1916 which had the effect of increasing the amount of
surface covered by PC-10. The sawtooth on the bottom of the Nacelle was
added to 24 Squadron machines after the last order which directed the sides
of the nacelles to be painted with PC-10, IIRC. This would have probably
been late June or early July. So depending on the machine you are modeling
and the time frame you want to represent, it may or may not have the
sawtooth pattern.
Most of this can be deduced from info in the DF colors & markings section
and a few of the captions.
It's been a few years and the DF is burried right now, but I seem to recall
the sawteeth were painted and not side fabric lapped over the bottom.
Someone pipe up if I'm mistaken here.
sp
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:07:09 -0500
From: "Steven Perry"
To:
Subject: Re: 24 Squadron markings
Message-ID: <017e01c16e32$a2523040$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com>
What ken said.
I should read all the thread before responding.
sp
catching up on e-mails.
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:07:18 +0100
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
To:
Subject: WWI] Re: newbie to list
Message-ID: <009401c16e32$a929e5c0$0200a8c0@x.pl>
Dear Darth Bittner!
Does it mean we've got him on the right side?
Darth Greg (saluting with his light-excel knife)
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:05:25 -0500 (EST), KnnthS@aol.com wrote:
>
> > does this mean I have to give all the 48th stuff to that
elementary school
> > and start over in 72nd....?
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:07:27 +0000
From: "Brent Theobald"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Work & Modeling (Kinda Long)
Message-ID:
Howdy Gang!
I don't know about ya'll. But I am thinking that life is too short for a
full time job. I sit here all day at work. My job affords me the time to
surf the net a little. I can read about all the models ya'll are working on
here on this list and over at Hyper Scale. I can surf other modeling sites.
Finally, I can purchase or bid on models and have them sent to me. So, I
spend all day waiting to get home in order to do a little modeling. This
rarely happens. Instead, there's a mess to clean up on the bench or I'm too
tired to do anything else but sit in front of the PC working on my own web
site.
Today I beat the system! Yup! I smuggled a small ot resin model into my
secluded mechanical lab. (Iomega Yak UT-1 nice kit!) I fired up the air
extraction system and ground the casting plugs off. Wow! I was modeling
before 5pm! What a concept! I think I spent 30 minutes grinding with a very
nice dremel and now I have a model ready to assemble. (I wonder when that
will happen?)
Don't worry about my modeling on the job. Things are pretty slow around
here. I've been looking for excuses to hide out in the lab in order to avoid
people watching me surf all day.
Tomorrow I'm bringing my Fredrichshaven G.III in...
Later!
Brent
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:14:15 +0100
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
To:
Subject: RE: New web goodies
Message-ID: <00a001c16e33$a16ac100$0200a8c0@x.pl>
Great model, Bucky!
Pity not in 1/72 scale!
What plans you used? Do you still possess it (plans)?
Write something about that model, please!
We are curious!
Grzegorz
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:16:41 -0500
From: "Steven Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: New web goodies
Message-ID: <01b001c16e33$f7bf9580$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com>
> > Bucky sent in some photos of his fabulous scratch built
> > Friedrichshafen G.
Unbefreakinleivable.
Outstanding model Bucky!
sp
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:20:13 +0100
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski"
To:
Subject: RE: D.VII has rehabilitaated herself
Message-ID: <004d01c16e34$76c596e0$0200a8c0@x.pl>
> She's doing a good deed, for sure! But be careful with the acces to
the kit
> dêpot, Steve... You won't like to find that the rare "Aurora Naglo
> Quadruplane in 1/52th scale" you saved for a rainy day would be
given to a
> deserving kid from, I don't know... Argentina, or Poland, for
instance! :-)
> D.
Kids in Poland prefers Junkers D.I or Cl.I nowadays, 1/72 of course!
:-)
G.
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:20:59 +1000
From: Shane Weier
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: RE: New web goodies
Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD784@mimhexch1.mim.com.au>
SP says:
> > > Bucky sent in some photos of his fabulous scratch built
> > > Friedrichshafen G.
>
> Unbefreakinleivable.
>
It is. You know, when Bucky finished the model (back in *May*!!) he said
>p.s. No, I will probably never scratchbuild anything more involved than an
>ammo crate ever again.
I wonder if the burnout has eased enough for us to start suggesting new
subjects to him yet?
Shane
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:35:26 -0500
From: "Steven Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: New web goodies
Message-ID: <01cc01c16e36$9620b5e0$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com>
> I wonder if the burnout has eased enough for us to start suggesting new
> subjects to him yet?
Just itchin to share that scratchbuilder's jinx arent ya?
sp
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:44:38 +1000
From: Shane Weier
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: RE: New web goodies
Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD785@mimhexch1.mim.com.au>
SP
> > I wonder if the burnout has eased enough for us to start
> > suggesting new
> > subjects to him yet?
>
> Just itchin to share that scratchbuilder's jinx arent ya?
Moi ????
Shane
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:56:50 -0800
From: Bob Pearson
To:
Subject: Re: Exhaust channel - Dixie Lee
Message-ID:
> From: "Neil Eddy"
> Peter and Steve; Thanks for the info on the exhaust channel thingie. If its
> any consolation my SMER/Eduard version also took some fitting and needed to
> be sanded down considerably before it fitted flush. Also the SMER/Eduard
> Triplane has a similar colour scheme to the latter 5493 but is "Dixie Lee" -
> N6290.
>
> All the Best
>
> Neil
For the exhaust channel it is far easier to just make a new one from sheet
styrene. Glue in two oversize pieces and trim back once dried.
N6290 was named Dixie III, not Dixie Lee. I have no idea on the reality of
the centre section stripes
Bob
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:45:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Artur Golebiewski
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Age old scale tug of war
Message-ID: <20011116024526.62383.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote:
> Dear Darth Bittner!
> Does it mean we've got him on the right side?
> Darth Greg (saluting with his light-excel knife)
>
> > On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:05:25 -0500 (EST),
> KnnthS@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > does this mean I have to give all the 48th stuff
> to that
> elementary school
> > > and start over in 72nd....?
Hey guys! quit that sqabble. As the average age of the
modeler keeps climbing the scales get larger so the
older folks can still see what they are doing. Back in
the Heyday of scale modeling in the sixties and
seventies every little kid had a few models at home
and was working on others...that is what the parents
bought and put under the tree. Those days are
gone...now we buy our own models and try to hide the
prices and models themselves from our spouses...hoping
that in their ignorance they will never know which is
new and which is old ( Oh, honey I had that one for at
least a year! ) as long as the plastic bag is quickly
removed from the box :o)
This phenomena has two good sides to it... for the
manufacturers they have to go through all the possible
makes and models untill each scale is exhausted like 1
72 was ten years ago ( yes I know that there are still
some kits missing and many are not up to standards,
but you must admit that 99%are out there). We are now
on the way to exhaust 1 48 ( probably about
90%complete) and in twenty years we will be looking
at our 1 32 scale Albatroses through spectacles while
we brush aside a lock of silver gray hair...
The other good side is that those few, who atually
do undertake the masochism of working in 1 72 command
the total admiration of those of us working in 1 48.
So hey, in the spirit of cooperation and mutual
understanding I am pledging to build a 1 72 scale
kit...the subject: V1 flying bomb :o) I should be able
to handle that?
Artur ( wondering why somebody makes decals for 1 72
instruments....this one is the altimeter and that one
is the airspeed indicator...oh really?, what if I
loose the instructions... can I just read it off the
instrument face? )
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:50:13 EST
From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: D.VII
Message-ID: <59.13138200.2925e6f5@aol.com>
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In a message dated 11/14/2001 10:38:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes:
> D.VII is most concerned that I point out to y'all that she does NOT wear a
> hair net at work. Her job is the "Shusher" she maintains order & decorum
> and
> directs the classes to and from tables
AH! The Dreaded Baroness Von Lunch Mother, I remember her well. Does she
still carry her "Vhistel"!. SP a great story, she is now like the dreaded
Typhoid Mary spreading the accursed "plastics stickem together disease". I
caught this at a early age and have never been cured from this P.S.T.D. I do
the same here at my firehouse, whenever a family or small group of children
come in to visit, which is almost every day here, I always look to see who is
really interested in a few of the models I have in our kitchen, then I open
my stash locker and let them pick one of the kits from a large lot I bought
for just such a purpose. I hope that I have passed on the dreaded P.S.T.D. to
some brave little soul who will someday do something to pass on the hobby to
another youngster. Now to get them interested In WW-l that is the real trick.
Best Regards,
Jon
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In a message dated 11/14/2001 10:38:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes:
D.VII is most concerned that I point out to y'all that she does NOT wear a
hair net at work. Her job is the "Shusher" she maintains order & decorum and
directs the classes to and from tables
AH! The Dreaded Baroness Von Lunch Mother, I remember her well. Does she still carry her "Vhistel"!. SP a great story, she is now like the dreaded Typhoid Mary spreading the accursed "plastics stickem together disease". I caught this at a early age and have never been cured from this P.S.T.D. I do the same here at my firehouse, whenever a family or small group of children come in to visit, which is almost every day here, I always look to see who is really interested in a few of the models I have in our kitchen, then I open my stash locker and let them pick one of the kits from a large lot I bought for just such a purpose. I hope that I have passed on the dreaded P.S.T.D. to some brave little soul who will someday do something to pass on the hobby to another youngster. Now to get them interested In WW-l that is the real trick.
Best Regards,
Jon
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:33:02
From: "Michael Kendix"
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Age old scale tug of war
Message-ID:
>From: Artur Golebiewski
> The other good side is that those few, who atually
>do undertake the masochism of working in 1 72 command
>the total admiration of those of us working in 1 48.
Finally! I can sleep peacefully.
>So hey, in the spirit of cooperation and mutual
>understanding I am pledging to build a 1 72 scale
>kit...the subject: V1 flying bomb :o) I should be able
>to handle that?
OHHH! He said a bad word -- Doodlebug!
>Artur ( wondering why somebody makes decals for 1 72
>instruments....this one is the altimeter and that one
>is the airspeed indicator...oh really?, what if I
>loose the instructions... can I just read it off the
>instrument face? )
Just send them over here and I'll tell you what they say.
Small IS Beautiful
Michael (5'4" - hey , at least I'm not bald!).
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:45:12 +1000
From: Shane Weier
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: RE: Age old scale tug of war
Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD78E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au>
Artur says:
> and in twenty years we will be looking
> at our 1 32 scale Albatroses through spectacles while
> we brush aside a lock of silver gray hair...
I'm going to grow back my hair ? !!!!
Fantastic !!!!
Shane
nb Eduard Dr.1 Needs only paint touchup and a coat of varnish
nb Konig Badly underestimated how long the brass bits would
take :-(
nb Snipe Waiting for the above to be completed....
nu Caproni ....sigh...............
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:03:11 EST
From: KnnthS@aol.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Age old scale tug of war
Message-ID:
Grzegorz-
We just be havin fun...
Think I joined the list just to blow raspberries at Matt.
>those few who are working in 72 command the total admiration of those of us
>working in 48.
Absolutely. I get all excited about good reference and as I look at a new
posting of someone's beauty and pride, there sits "1/72nd scale" and I say
"whaa...?"
Like this:
I look at your 72 stuff, guys, as reference for my 48.
How's that? It's all good.
: |
Ken
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:11:37 +1000
From: Shane Weier
To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'"
Subject: Re: Age old scale tug of war
Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD791@mimhexch1.mim.com.au>
Ken says:
> Think I joined the list just to blow raspberries at Matt.
That's my job. OTOH, now I can take a vacation with conscience clear ;-)
> Like this:
> I look at your 72 stuff, guys, as reference for my 48.
> How's that? It's all good.
LOL
Shane
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 06:58:25 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti"
To: "ww1 list"
Subject: there is no rest for old soldiers
Message-ID: <007101c16e85$3bffa540$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>
Sorry for being the carrier of bad news early today, but a friend of mine
sent me this excerpt from a newspaper. Can this be true?
International airport on Somme battlefield will force the first mass removal
of soldiers' graves
By John Lichfield in Vermandovillers
15 November 2001
Over the bodies of the living and the dead, the French government will
plough ahead with plans for an international airport on the Somme
battlefields and war cemeteries 80 miles north of Paris.
Despite the collapse in air travel since 11 September and despite evidence
that Paris has no pressing need for a third big airport, Lionel Jospin, the
Prime Minister, will approve plans tonight to build a futuristic terminal at
Chaulnes, almost halfway between Paris and Calais. The government hopes
eventually that the airport, designed for long-haul flights, will draw
traffic from Britain and other countries.
At least one village will have to be destroyed and three largely dismantled
to make way for the airport, next to the high-speed railway to London,
Brussels and Lille. The site, controversial for several reasons, will force
the first mass removal of graves of soldiers killed in the First World War.
A small British cemetery containing the remains of 20 soldiers killed in
March 1918, on land granted "in perpetuity" by the French state, like all
British war cemeteries, falls within the proposed airport boundary. So does
a large French military cemetery, also containing six British graves.
The 15-year construction of the terminal will also force the removal of the
bodies of 22,665 German soldiers, in one of the largest German war
cemeteries in France, now occupying the site of what will be the airport's
northern runway.
Mike Johnson of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission said no British war
cemetery in France had been moved before. "We would object vigorously," he
said. Eckhardt Holtz, of the German war graves authority in Metz, said his
first reaction had been that moving so many graves was impossible. "But if
the French insist, and they pay to build another cemetery elsewhere, and
they are moving their own cemetery near by, I suppose we cannot stand in
their way."
Press reports say Chaulnes will be selected from a shortlist of eight
possible airport sites by Mr Jospin and a group of ministers in Paris. The
location has been chosen, in part, to relieve protests against air traffic
noise in the Paris suburbs. But the site has also been pushed vigorously by
Air France, the state-owned airline, which hopes the inter-continental
terminal will attract passengers from Belgium and from Britain.
The airport will be less than two hours from London by rail once the
high-speed line through Kent and eastern London is completed. It will be 30
minutes from Paris by TGV and 45 minutes from Brussels.
But the choice of the Chaulnes area has infuriated people living there. "It
is our memories, our childhoods that they are rubbing out," said Ghislaine
Caussin, 71, whose home in the village of Vermandovillers stands in the
middle of what will become a main runway.
Raphael Poupard, 61, the Mayor, is struggling to mount a rearguard action
from his one-room town hall, with one telephone line and no fax machine.
"Look at the map," Mr Poupard said. "The other threatened villages may
survive a little but we will be wiped out 100 per cent. Vermandovillers will
be scratched from the map of France. And why? No airport built so far from a
city has ever succeeded."
Mr Poupard has a point. Although the Chaulnes site seems logical, next to a
junction of two motorways and the TGV line to the north, its apparent
advantages are misleading. The A1 motorway to Paris is already choked. The
TGV line is running at full capacity. Two new tracks would have to be added
all the way to Paris to serve the airport. Northern France is, in any case,
an air traffic bottleneck. Putting the airport south of Paris would have
made more sense.
Yves Crochet, the French Environment Minister, who is from the Green party,
says there is no need for a third airport, after Charles de Gaulle and Orly.
The complaints of pressure groups in the Paris suburbs could be met by
trans- ferring freight and other flights to the provinces.
But this misses the real argument. The promise of expansion at an
intercontinental airport within 15 to 20 years will give Air France a huge
advantage in the battle for domination of the European skies, as smaller
carriers disappear. Putting that airport within a short high-speed train
ride of Britain, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany will, Air France
hopes, prove to be a strategic masterstroke.
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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:06:02 -0300
From: "Diego Fernetti"
To:
Subject: RE: Age old scale tug of war
Message-ID: <009d01c16e86$4c167de0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>
Artur!
> The other good side is that those few, who actually
> do undertake the masochism of working in 1 72 command
> the total admiration of those of us working in 1 48
We knew that! We knew that!
> So hey, in the spirit of cooperation and mutual
> understanding I am pledging to build a 1 72 scale
> kit...the subject: V1 flying bomb :o) I should be able
> to handle that?
I guess that you would be able to handle any model that you want. The
important thing is having fun and building what you really like. So, BUILD A
NIUEPORT!
> Artur ( wondering why somebody makes decals for 1 72
> instruments....this one is the altimeter and that one
> is the airspeed indicator...oh really?, what if I
> loose the instructions... can I just read it off the
> instrument face? )
Just install them start the engine and push the throttle gently.... wichever
moves first is the RPM indicator. ;-)
D.
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