WWI Digest 3890 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question by Artur Golebiewski 2) Re: Albatros rigging question by Shane Weier 3) Re: the kills of Albert Ball.... by Shane Weier 4) Re: PE Rotaries by Karen Rychlewski 5) Re: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT by Karen Rychlewski 6) web-sites by donot@reply.com 7) Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question by Rory Goodwin 8) Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question by Karen Rychlewski 9) RE: OT Bananas? by =?iso-8859-1?q?jim=20Prendergast?= 10) Cleaning a fish by Rory Goodwin 11) Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question by Rory Goodwin 12) Re: PE Rotaries by "Paul" 13) Re: Cleaning a fish by Rory Goodwin 14) Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question by Shane Weier 15) Good book on ebay by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 16) RE: Good book on ebay by "Gaston Graf" 17) RE: Good book on ebay/stahltaube by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 18) Re: raw fokker by "Diego Fernetti" 19) FW: "second-hand" 1/72 by Crawford Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:56:42 -0800 (PST) From: Artur Golebiewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question Message-ID: <20011114015642.7815.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> --- fraser wrote: > > Neil wrote: > "If you rigged with ordinary black hair it would > look about > right in 1/72. Problem is you can't get it straight. > But I think a good rule for rigging thicknes in 1/72 > is about the same as (thickish) human hair, maybe a > fraction > thicker if it's silver coloured, black always shows > up better > so should be thinner. > IMHO/Neil C." > > > And FWIW, a human hair, I seem to recall (zoology > 101) is about 5 thou > depending on colour.... > Regards, > Fraser > > Remember that fairy tale about the fashionable king in a coat made with a thread so fine that only fools could not see it? Are we getting close to that with our argument about the thickness of rigging in various scales? What if we could somehow engineer rigging 'to scale' in a 1:144 scale biplane...would we be fools if we could not see it?...would we admit it? Artur __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:16:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD758@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil suggests: > If you rigged with ordinary black hair it would look about > right in 1/72. Problem is you can't get it straight. > But I think a good rule for rigging thicknes in 1/72 > is about the same as (thickish) human hair, maybe a fraction > thicker if it's silver coloured, black always shows up better > so should be thinner. Well, if silver is good I have the colour right, but I only have sufficient supply to rig one or two Fokker D.VIII Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:27:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: the kills of Albert Ball.... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD75A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Peter says: > The British claims were mostly gross exaggerations. A man's > word that he > shot downan airplane was enough. Some time ago I did a study that > concluded only about 1/6 of the British claims were valed! > However, that > is now necessarily true for each pilot. Part of this is in my recent > article in the latest OTF. To be fair this also includes AFC and USAS claims. Read "Bloody April, Black September" for a disquieting look at how few RFC, AFC and USAS claims result in a wrecked aircraft. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:53:19 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PE Rotaries Message-ID: <3BF0992F.B1E24D53@earthlink.net> On the topic of stacked disks for rotary engines: a while back, a friend of mine described his adventure with this idea. He was browsing the craft section of a fabric store and something caught his eye. 'Twas a bag of multicolored, multishaped small and very thin plastic shapes (like sequins, but not bent). I believe they were intended for pre-teen girls to make necklaces and stuff. The big draw was they had holes in their middles (the plastic shapes, not the girls...). So he had his wife purchase the bag, took it home and dumped about 1000 of these things out on the table, and proceeded to spend several hours picking out the disks of different diameters from amongst the stars, crescents, and hearts. He actually constructed a convincing replica of a single cylinder, made a mold and, I think, cast enough for a whole engine. When he gets out of the rest home, he might even subscribe to our list... Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:12:26 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: <3BF09DA9.7852E459@earthlink.net> ERIC HIGHT informed us that: > i will be reissuing the pfalz dr.i in dec 01. > next kit is an AH taube early 02 > 1/48th german mechanics set (3 figures) late dec 01 Great news, Eric. Which Taube would that be? > the aeg c.iv has been pushed back some/possibly out. i am working on marty > real hard!! Keep pushing--this one has many on the waiting list... > we are going to try and produce between 4-6 kits next year. most will be > of early war a/c. Let's see: if I guess correctly, I get a free kit, right? Bregeut BrM.5 Voisin LA.S Albatros B.II Albatros C.I Caudron G.3/4 Any Farman: Henri or Maurice Vickers 'Gunbus' RAF R.E. 8 Macchi L.1/2/3 Ago C.II Aviatik B.II Ahhhh, be still my heart... Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:43:35 -0500 (EST) From: donot@reply.com To: HK Subject: web-sites Message-ID: Dear Sir/Madam This is to introduce some web-sites to you, they may be helpful to you 1. www.elderlysevice.com 長者資訊網 2. www.rehabstation.com 復康資訊網 3. www.eldershop.com 愛德心網店------ 出售 復康用品 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:52:48 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question Message-ID: <3BF1F8A0.90446062@earthlink.net> Scale effect is an interesting can of worms, esp. regarding rigging, natural wood surfaces and other details...how much detail/texture can really be seen in "average" outdoor lighting from 48, 72, or 144 feet? Artur Golebiewski wrote: > --- fraser wrote: > > > > Neil wrote: > > "If you rigged with ordinary black hair it would > > look about > > right in 1/72. Problem is you can't get it straight. > > But I think a good rule for rigging thicknes in 1/72 > > is about the same as (thickish) human hair, maybe a > > fraction > > thicker if it's silver coloured, black always shows > > up better > > so should be thinner. > > IMHO/Neil C." > > > > > > And FWIW, a human hair, I seem to recall (zoology > > 101) is about 5 thou > > depending on colour.... > > Regards, > > Fraser > > > > Remember that fairy tale about the fashionable king > in a coat made with a thread so fine that only fools > could not see it? > > Are we getting close to that with our argument > about the thickness of rigging in various scales? What > if we could somehow engineer rigging 'to scale' in a > 1:144 scale biplane...would we be fools if we could > not see it?...would we admit it? Artur > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:05:06 -0500 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question Message-ID: <3BF0AA02.6786E351@earthlink.net> Rory Goodwin wondered: > ...how much detail/texture can > really be seen in "average" outdoor lighting from 48, 72, or 144 feet? I imagine someone will come up with a formula for this, but paraphrasing from Shep Paine's book on building dioramas: talking about figures, Paine says that holding a 1:32 figure 5 inches away from one's eyes is equivalent to looking at a real person 12 feet away. 1:48 would be a bit further away: maybe 21 or 22 feet away. So what you could see of something (read 'airplane') that far away would be accurate to include on the model. At 1:72 scale, the real thing would be some 35 feet away. And double that, I presume, for 1:144. Note: my GRE score on the math section was in the 15th percentile, so Paine's discourse makes sense to me... Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:12:04 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?jim=20Prendergast?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: OT Bananas? Message-ID: <20011114051204.27572.qmail@web14408.mail.yahoo.com> --- Shane Weier wrote: > Gaston asks: > > > Could it be possible, that > > some Germans > > called the French "Banana Eater" because France > possessed > > colonies where > > they planted their own bananas while the Germans > had to > > import them for > > expensive prices? Did people in Central Europe eat > already > > bananas at that time anyway? I wonder. > Dunno about the Jerries,(were'nt they called... among the more polite terms."sausage-eaters?" We in Oz also have a few nicknames...like Shane from the pineapple state must be a "banana-bender"...if he came from West Aussie he'd be a "sandgroper"...or a "crow-eater" from South Aust...or perhaps an "apple-islander" from Tasmania. etc. etc. Cheers Jim P. > I'd have thought the logic was > > banana eater == ape > > They were perhaps calling the locals "apes", a > common enough insult in many > languages. > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** > http://briefcase.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Briefcase - Manage your files online. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:17:56 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Cleaning a fish Message-ID: <3BF1FE84.9EE6A51D@earthlink.net> I'm currently trimming the fuselage of a certain balloon-scale walfisch...are there any build articles on the Eduard species still on the web? TIA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:44:42 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question Message-ID: <3BF204CA.690EFA64@earthlink.net> Ah, but how much time do you spend 5" away from a model after you've built it? This is very close. One foot is pretty close, and between 1' and 3' is perhaps a more common distance.... Karen Rychlewski wrote: > Rory Goodwin wondered: > > > ...how much detail/texture can > > really be seen in "average" outdoor lighting from 48, 72, or 144 feet? > > I imagine someone will come up with a formula for this, but paraphrasing > from Shep Paine's book on building dioramas: talking about figures, Paine > says that holding a 1:32 figure 5 inches away from one's eyes is > equivalent to looking at a real person 12 feet away. 1:48 would be a bit > further away: maybe 21 or 22 feet away. So what you could see of > something (read 'airplane') that far away would be accurate to include on > the model. At 1:72 scale, the real thing would be some 35 feet away. And > double that, I presume, for 1:144. > > Note: my GRE score on the math section was in the 15th percentile, so > Paine's discourse makes sense to me... > > Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:42:24 -0600 From: "Paul" To: Subject: Re: PE Rotaries Message-ID: <001701c16ccf$4b6f4ce0$03928ece@computer> Hi All, I do indeed have negatives for a PE 9 cylinder LeRhone. They are still unused because my partner in the engine effort is indisposed at this time (we are both military). When I can get in touch with him again, I'll ask him about going ahead and sending the negatives to Fotocut and trying to get it done. As those who saw the negatives at Dallas know, this project was intended to be done just for the two of us, without getting the etching done commercially. Unfortunately, when my cohort changed duty stations, things went on hold. He has the original art work, so if the negatives aren't viable for Fotocut as is, we should be able to re-arrange things to make it work. The PE only covers the various sizes and shapes needed for the fins, cylinder heads, valve train, the intake runner flanges and the basic shape of the crankcase. The tapered portion of the crankcase will have to be turned on a lathe and the intake runners, push rods and spark plugs will need to be fabricated by the person building it. Additionally, doing these engines commercially will be VERY expensive because of the three thicknesses of brass sheet needed to do the engine to scale and get the proper alignment of the cylinders. ONLY the most INSANE fanatics are going to be interested in this project, as Lance's parts count estimate of 400 was roughly 400 parts short... Keep in mind, I'm NOT doing this as a business, so whatever the cost is will be split evenly per engine, whether it be $25 per engine or $50. I'll keep those interested in this lunacy updated if you send me an email off list. When I know something, you'll know something. Paul H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Krieg" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: [WWI] PE Rotaries > Shane recalls: > > "Hasn't someone (Lance??) made PE disks for this?" > > Not I... Paul Howard is preparing an entire LeRhone in PE, some three sheets worth and about 400 parts. > He had the negatives at the IPMS US Nats in Dallas, in 2000. > > Paul owes us a status update on this project, since it is something some of us fanatics would like to try. > > Paul? > > Lance > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:47:16 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Cleaning a fish Message-ID: <3BF20564.3C2A29FA@earthlink.net> Found a couple. Is David Solosy lurking on this list? Curious about the paints he used... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:52:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Albatros rigging question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD761@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rory says (in reply to Karen) > Ah, but how much time do you spend 5" away from a model after > you've built > it? This is very close. One foot is pretty close, and > between 1' and 3' is perhaps a more common distance.... All these formula things tend to fall down in the face of the way the human mind works. It's all very well saying - "if you can't see it at 48m in real life it shouldn't be there at 1m in 1/48 scale" BUT unfortunately the eye-mind will look, see, analyse, and determine that it's an undetailed toy before you take a single conscious thought. Why - the mind knows that the detail *must* be there (wood does have grain y'know) and if it isn't then the model won't look right. OTOH if you said "if you can't see it at 72m in real life it shouldn't be there at 1m in 1/72 scale" *I* would answer "WALK 24m CLOSER YOU FOOL!!!" ;-) Shane (All IMHO !) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:58:46 EST From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Good book on ebay Message-ID: <81.1309f50c.29236216@aol.com> --part1_81.1309f50c.29236216_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a good one on Ebay people. Usual disclaimer, just noticed it tonight, WW1 aircraft nt Squadron Signal Item # 1485047435 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1485047435 MAINE AIRCRAFT OF THE 1914-1918 WAR Best Regards, Jon --part1_81.1309f50c.29236216_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a good one on Ebay people. Usual disclaimer, just noticed it tonight,
WW1 aircraft nt Squadron Signal
Item # 1485047435
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1485047435
MAINE AIRCRAFT OF THE 1914-1918 WAR

Best Regards,
 Jon 


             

--part1_81.1309f50c.29236216_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:04:44 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Good book on ebay Message-ID: Speaking about books: I own "Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WW1" which is not for sale but where a picture of a "Stahltaube" is included. There was a recent discussion about that bird, but I donno how many pictures of it exist so if anybody is interested I may post it on my site for download. Just lemme know if the steel dove freaks want it or not. The pics in that book are only of mediocre quality but often show very interesting details about the construction of the aircraft. Also the book includes a lot of detail drawings. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:43:11 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RE: Good book on ebay/stahltaube Message-ID: <005301c16cf0$c71e7f20$0200a8c0@x.pl> Gaston, our Friend! Yes, Polish Taube freak wants it for sure, and another, Argetinian one, is supposed to want it too :o) Cheers! Grzes > Just lemme know if the steel dove freaks want it or not. The pics in that > book are only of mediocre quality but often show very interesting details > about the construction of the aircraft. Also the book includes a lot of > detail drawings. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:37:58 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: raw fokker Message-ID: <010801c16cf8$6d9735c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Who doesn't? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: raw fokker > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:41:20 -0500 (EST), Ross Moorhouse wrote: > > > Yes his work is stunning alright. I love this from him...... "This was my > > first serious attempt at detailing a WW1 aeroplane model. Starting from the > > Revell 1/72nd kit, interiors, radiator and engine were scratchbuilt in > > plasticard and sprue." This was about his Se5a.. Then all his models after > > that are like this... sob sob.. This just isn't fair.. ;) > > He is a True Master, that's for sure. I'm still struggling to get to > his level... > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:47:55 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: FW: "second-hand" 1/72 Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C16D02.32DC5FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll resend this/Neil -----Original Message----- From: Crawford Neil=20 Sent: den 14 november 2001 09:13 To: WW1 List (E-mail) Subject: FW: "second-hand" 1/72 =20 Hi, Got a list of secondhand models, I'm thinking of buying these: =20 Focke Wulf Fw-200 Condor civil Revell 120:- Junkers G-24 civil Finland Revell 120:- Liore 45 Heller 100:- Dogfight doubles DD F2B/Fokker Dr1 Airfix 150:- DD Roland/Re8 Airfix 150:- Divide by 10 to get USD, are these good prices? any comments on the kits, are they good (off-list for ot)? Anyone else interested? Also, that I already have, note these two:=20 Sopwith Triplane Revell 90:- DH 89 Dragon Rapide (Svenska dekaler) Heller 85:- /Neil C =20 =20 =20 Here is the complete list: =20 Boeing B-17B Flying Fortress Minicraft 150:- Boeing B-17C Flying Fortress Minicraft 150:- SAAB J35 Draken Revell 30:- Focke Wulf Fw-200 Condor civil Revell 120:- Junkers F-13 civil Revell 100:- Junkers G-24 civil Finland Revell 120:- J22 Marivox 40:- CF100 Mk 4B Hobbycraft 65:- F14A Hasegawa 85:- Mig29 Fulcrum =B2Farnborough=B2 Hasegawa 75:- DH 89 Dragon Rapide (Svenska dekaler) Heller 85:- Lockheed Viking Hasegawa 85:- Lockheed Viking Hasegawa 85:- Grumman EA6B Prowler Hasegawa 85:- Sikorsky SH-60J Hasegawa 65:- Caproni 311 Italaerei 150:- Fiat BR20 Italaerei 150:- Lockheed Lightning (ex-frog) Ryss 40:- Liore 45 Heller 100:- Polikarpov I-3 Nakotne 35:- Mig 29C Nakotne 50:- Fairey Fulmar Vista 35:- Macchi M5 Ryss 50:- Whitley (ex-frog) ryss, p=E5se 50:- F-104G =B2Tiger Meet=B2 Esci 60:- Harrier AV-8B Esci 75:- Hughes 500 (1/100) pocket pak Entex 100:- Mustang P51B Monogram 65:- Mustang P51B Monogram 65:- Sopwith Triplane Revell 90:- Mirage III Frog 100:- Dornier Do17Z Monogram 100:- Me 110E-1 Monogram 90:- Me 109 F/G Johan 70:- DD F2B/Fokker Dr1 Airfix 150:- DD Roland/Re8 Airfix 150:- Hobby-Importen Box 3131 600 03 Norrk=F6ping 011-166768 eft 16.15 vardagar, eft 12.00 helger=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C16D02.32DC5FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "second-hand" 1/72
I'll=20 resend this/Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: Crawford Neil =
Sent:=20 den 14 november 2001 09:13
To: WW1 List = (E-mail)
Subject:=20 FW: "second-hand" 1/72

 
Hi, Got a list of = secondhand=20 models, I'm thinking of buying these:
 
 Focke = Wulf Fw-200=20 Condor  civil Revell 120:-
Junkers G-24  civil=20 Finland Revell 120:-
 Liore 45 Heller 100:-
Dogfight=20 doubles
 DD = F2B/Fokker=20 Dr1 Airfix 150:-
DD Roland/Re8 Airfix = 150:-
Divide by 10 to get USD, are these good prices? any comments=20 on
the=20 kits, are they good (off-list for ot)? Anyone else=20 interested?
 Also, that I already have, note these=20 two: 
Sopwith=20 Triplane Revell 90:-
DH 89 Dragon Rapide (Svenska dekaler) Heller=20 85:-
/Neil C
 
 
 
Here is the complete = list:
 

Boeing = B-17B Flying=20 Fortress Minicraft 150:-
Boeing B-17C Flying = Fortress Minicraft=20 150:-
SAAB J35 Draken Revell 30:-
Focke Wulf Fw-200 Condor=20  civil Revell 120:-
Junkers F-13  civil Revell=20 100:-
Junkers G-24  civil Finland Revell=20 120:-
J22  Marivox 40:-
CF100 Mk 4B Hobbycraft=20 65:-
F14A  Hasegawa 85:-
Mig29 Fulcrum=20 =B2Farnborough=B2 Hasegawa 75:-
DH 89 Dragon Rapide (Svenska=20 dekaler) Heller 85:-
Lockheed Viking Hasegawa = 85:-
Lockheed=20 Viking Hasegawa 85:-
Grumman EA6B Prowler Hasegawa = 85:-
Sikorsky=20 SH-60J Hasegawa 65:-
Caproni 311 Italaerei 150:-
Fiat=20 BR20 Italaerei 150:-
Lockheed Lightning (ex-frog) Ryss=20 40:-
Liore 45 Heller 100:-
Polikarpov I-3 Nakotne = 35:-
Mig=20 29C Nakotne 50:-
Fairey Fulmar Vista 35:-
Macchi = M5 Ryss=20 50:-
Whitley (ex-frog) ryss, p=E5se 50:-
F-104G =B2Tiger = Meet=B2 Esci=20 60:-
Harrier AV-8B Esci 75:-
Hughes 500 (1/100) pocket = pak Entex=20 100:-
Mustang P51B Monogram 65:-
Mustang P51B Monogram=20 65:-
Sopwith Triplane Revell 90:-
Mirage III Frog=20 100:-
Dornier Do17Z Monogram 100:-
Me 110E-1 Monogram = 90:-
Me=20 109 F/G Johan 70:-
DD F2B/Fokker Dr1 Airfix 150:-
DD=20 Roland/Re8 Airfix 150:-

Hobby-Importen
Box 3131
600 = 03=20 Norrk=F6ping
011-166768 eft 16.15 vardagar, eft 12.00 helger=20
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