WWI Digest 3884 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Fokker Fighters by Crowood Press? by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 2) =?big5?Q?=A4j=AEa=A8=D3=A4u=A7@ ?= by foryou@ms100.hinet.net 3) RE: Question by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 4) Re: Fwd: Discussion on the WWI site on "Ltn. Olden's Pfalz" by "Diego Fernetti" 5) Re: Finished one by "Diego Fernetti" 6) Richardson Brothers WASP was [Re : Question by "cameron rile" 7) Re: Richardson Brothers WASP was [Re : Question by "Steven Perry" 8) the kills of Albert Ball.... by "Gaston Graf" 9) Re: Finished one by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?= 10) Re: Finished one by "Steven Perry" 11) Re: Finished one by Crawford Neil 12) Re: Finished one by Crawford Neil 13) Re: Finished one by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 14) Re: Finished one by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?= 15) Re: 11th November - Polonia Restituta! by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 16) Re: Finished one by Crawford Neil 17) Re: Finished one by "Steven Perry" 18) Re: Finished one by "Steven Perry" 19) Re: Finished one by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?= 20) Re: Finished one by Crawford Neil 21) Rio Claro open contest by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 22) holding struts to paint? by Crawford Neil 23) Re: Finished one by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 24) Fokker Fighters by Crowood Press? by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" 25) RE: holding struts to paint? by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 26) re: Rio Claro open contest by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 27) Nieuport questions by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 28) Re: Counterrotating engine SSW by "Hans Trauner" 29) Re: Berthold by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:10:02 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker Fighters by Crowood Press? Message-ID: <000701c16b49$0dbf25a0$236e160a@CSP00> Todd, you asked: > Thanks Volker, > > All I have is the Imrie Pictorial book (Vintage > Warbirds), the WS Dr.I Datafile Special, and the > Squadron Fokker books. Do you think the Crowood book > would add very much that these don't have? Also, do > you know if Fokker Team-Schoendorf is still in > operation? I haven't heard anything from them for > months. > In this case, I'd say positively yes, as the Crowood book also gives a lot of information on the "lesser Fokker's" (like the V series and the early biplanes). As for Achim Engels et all of the Schorndorf team - no idea about their activities. Totally lost the overview over what's going on in Germany since I'm here in Asia... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 04:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: foryou@ms100.hinet.net To: \yahoo.txt, \DESHK10.TXT, \DESHK11.TXT, \DESHK12.TXT, \DESHK13.TXT, Subject: =?big5?Q?=A4j=AEa=A8=D3=A4u=A7@ ?= Message-ID: 你好! 找到工作了嗎?經濟不景氣,工作真的難找。 我之前也是找不到工作,因為我只有登錄其中比較有名的人力網站 ,但還是沒有找到工作,想想比較好的方法就是多登入幾家人力網 站才比較會有機會,不管是之前104、1111或是9999這些網站都有登 錄還是沒有,現在你可以再多登錄一家,反正只要把之前的資料照 copy進來,就可以了!我想這比一直去找舊資料要好的多吧! 網址如下: http://alvinliu.att.com.tw 24K人力網站 這是和ATT人力銀行合作的網站,個人資料是絕對不會外洩的,這點可以放心。 試試看,總比一直在家裡等好吧!我就是在這家找到還可以的工作,先待再說 了,總比一直花錢好吧!試試看吧! (如果你已找到工作,很抱歉打擾了你) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 04:57:58 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Question Message-ID: <92.1d00e8b5.2920f726@aol.com> Wasn't there an Australian contra-prop design? Not sure if it was pre-war (bet Cam knows something about it) but I'm fairly sure it pre-dates the SSW and I would be surprized if there were not one even ealier than that. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:14:12 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Discussion on the WWI site on "Ltn. Olden's Pfalz" Message-ID: Matt forwarded us the message from GvW >As I cruised the discussions on the WWI Modelers' site lately, I've >noticed a lot of excited talk about a photo of a Pfalz D.IIIa to be >found at : http://www.altearmee.de/archiv/photoarchiv/Flieger02.jpg. -snipped info- >That's everything I can say about this intriguing photo. Hope it helps. Whoa!!! Fascinating! Also very exciting that my humble post on this picture have moved Greg Van Wyngarden to reseacrh and write about it in some lenght! Thanks Matt for passing this on the list and I'll write to Mr. vG thanking him for his clarification. So fictional characters, huh? I'd never guessed that! :-) There goes my detective work! D. I'm no M. Poirot, after all, but more of Cpt. Hastings _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:49:30 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: Steeeeve! Nice model! Wel done! these old pegasus are truly a challenge for the modeler but well worth the effort! Regards D. >From: "Steven Perry" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Finished one >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:35:58 -0500 (EST) > >I finished a Pegasus Bristol M.1c. I got the kit in trade from a List >member, but I cannot remember who it was. My apologies for my memory and >thanks again for the kit. > >It is an early Pegasus kit. No white metal or decals. Very thick molding >that took some cleanup. Builder expected to scratch kingpost, U/C and >tailskid, but actual size templates given on the plans. A buildable kit >with >some work. > >Mine is finished as one of 150 squadron based in Salonica. I have to find >some black tail numbers to complete it as a specific airframe. > >Photos at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/m1c.htm > >sp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:20:33 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Richardson Brothers WASP was [Re : Question Message-ID: <51A915ECB4DD79A4F96C0DC5C169CD71@cameron.prontomail.com> Steve, >When was the first use of counter rotating >propellers. Pre-WWI, WWI or post-WWI? Australia, 1917 ;) Neville Hayes in his research on the NSW State Aviation School uncovered an Australian built and designed prototype that was attempted to be flown from the school. Victor Richardson was one of the brothers, possibly the Victor Richardson of "Victa Lawnmower" fame. http://users.rcn.com/kymcam/wasp001.jpg http://users.rcn.com/kymcam/wasp002.jpg http://users.rcn.com/kymcam/wasp003.jpg Nice looking M1C, especially the cellophane effect. Looks great Steve. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:32:21 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Richardson Brothers WASP was [Re : Question Message-ID: <000b01c16b76$15be71c0$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > >When was the first use of counter rotating > >propellers. Pre-WWI, WWI or post-WWI? > > Australia, 1917 > > http://users.rcn.com/kymcam/wasp001.jpg > http://users.rcn.com/kymcam/wasp002.jpg > http://users.rcn.com/kymcam/wasp003.jpg Too cool. I was just wondering. I guess it is still nukes and radar that were the only "modern" ideas not tried in WWI. > > Nice looking M1C, especially the cellophane > effect. Looks great Steve. Thanks Cam and everyone else for the kind words. The wing had the hole molded in. I just stuck in a rib and some bracing wires then covered it with celophane tape and trimmed closely. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:30:33 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: the kills of Albert Ball.... Message-ID: Friends, not long ago there was a discussion about the British way to count victories, which was different from the German system. Unfortunately I did not save those messages so I've got to ask again. In one of my old German books about Boelcke I've now read how much the Germans respected Albert Ball, but they completely DENY his 44 kills because that number was greater than the number of victories of the greatest of the greatest Oswald Boelcke. It is a shame to read such falsification! The author wrote that "in fact" Ball "only" scored 11 victories which was "indeed much less" than Boelcke scored. And off course the mighty Red Baron was credited with the victory over Ball. But checking the Aerodrom site I found much a different report so I would like to ask if the 44 victories of Ball was all comfirmed and how the Brits counted their victories compared to the Germans? I need more details here because Albert Ball is mentionned in Boelcke's field reports which cries for additional information to be added. Thanks for your help! Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:35:53 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?= To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: Very nice model Steve. Old pegasus ARE a challenge. I got a SSW D III from Matt Bittner a year ago. I扉 never seen anything like it. I suppose one could make at least 2 models from the same ammount of plastic. The upper wing has a prominnent "bulb" in the middle so I have decided to make a new one. I might turn it into a D IV. I had the benefit of showing the model to Neil C. this weekend and I feel that he is somewhat concerned about my mental state after this. Altough he did brought with him a whole bunch of references.... M緳ten -----Original Message----- From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:d_fernetti@hotmail.com] Sent: den 12 november 2001 12:51 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Finished one Steeeeve! Nice model! Wel done! these old pegasus are truly a challenge for the modeler but well worth the effort! Regards D. >From: "Steven Perry" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Finished one >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:35:58 -0500 (EST) > >I finished a Pegasus Bristol M.1c. I got the kit in trade from a List >member, but I cannot remember who it was. My apologies for my memory and >thanks again for the kit. > >It is an early Pegasus kit. No white metal or decals. Very thick molding >that took some cleanup. Builder expected to scratch kingpost, U/C and >tailskid, but actual size templates given on the plans. A buildable kit >with >some work. > >Mine is finished as one of 150 squadron based in Salonica. I have to find >some black tail numbers to complete it as a specific airframe. > >Photos at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/m1c.htm > >sp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:46:42 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: <001b01c16b78$147d7b60$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Very nice model Steve. Thanks Marten. > Old pegasus ARE a challenge. I got a SSW D III from > Matt Bittner a year ago. I扉 never seen anything like it. > I suppose one could make at least 2 models from the same ammount of plastic. The upper wing has a prominnent "bulb" in the middle so I have decided to make a new one. > I might turn it into a D IV. > > I had the benefit of showing the model to Neil C. this weekend and I feel that he is somewhat concerned about my mental state after this. Altough he did brought with him a whole bunch of references.... Well anyone who can turn a blob of orange plastic into a nice W.4 shouldn't have any trouble producing a dandy SSW out of the Pegasus kit. :-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:47:52 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: I've been worried about your mental state for quite a long time M緳ten, actually after seeing your models I'd say that there is some sense in the madness. There was a good lot of finished models there, plenty of those were OT or golden-age, so I would pronounce you completely sane, saner than most modellers I meet! As mentioned already today, meeting listees is a pleasure, thanks M緳ten for a great time. /Neil C. PS. Have you guys had a look at the spoked wheels on M緳tens Caudron? They are really neat, and no cheating involved, the HW method, well done! > -----Original Message----- > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?=@mustang.sr.unh.edu > [mailto:=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?=@mustang.sr.unh.edu] > Sent: den 12 november 2001 13:39 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Finished one > > > Very nice model Steve. > Old pegasus ARE a challenge. I got a SSW D III from > Matt Bittner a year ago. I扉 never seen anything like it. > I suppose one could make at least 2 models from the same > ammount of plastic. The upper wing has a prominnent "bulb" in > the middle so I have decided to make a new one. > I might turn it into a D IV. > > I had the benefit of showing the model to Neil C. this > weekend and I feel that he is somewhat concerned about my > mental state after this. Altough he did brought with him a > whole bunch of references.... > > > M緳ten > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:d_fernetti@hotmail.com] > Sent: den 12 november 2001 12:51 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Finished one > > > Steeeeve! > Nice model! Wel done! these old pegasus are truly a challenge for the > modeler but well worth the effort! > Regards > D. > > > >From: "Steven Perry" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Finished one > >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:35:58 -0500 (EST) > > > >I finished a Pegasus Bristol M.1c. I got the kit in trade > from a List > >member, but I cannot remember who it was. My apologies for > my memory and > >thanks again for the kit. > > > >It is an early Pegasus kit. No white metal or decals. Very > thick molding > >that took some cleanup. Builder expected to scratch kingpost, U/C and > >tailskid, but actual size templates given on the plans. A > buildable kit > >with > >some work. > > > >Mine is finished as one of 150 squadron based in Salonica. I > have to find > >some black tail numbers to complete it as a specific airframe. > > > >Photos at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/m1c.htm > > > >sp > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:48:46 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: > > Well anyone who can turn a blob of orange plastic into a nice > W.4 shouldn't > have any trouble producing a dandy SSW out of the Pegasus kit. :-) > > sp > > But the real question is WHY?!!! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:00:29 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: Steve, great job! But you did it too good. No one will guess now that so many parts have been scratchbuilt :o) How did you simulate these clear wing panels? Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:00:05 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?= To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: Neil wrote: -----Original Message----- > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?=@mustang.sr.unh.edu > [mailto:=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?=@mustang.sr.unh.edu] > Sent: den 12 november 2001 13:39 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Finished one > > > Very nice model Steve. > Old pegasus ARE a challenge. I got a SSW D III from > Matt Bittner a year ago. I扉 never seen anything like it. > I suppose one could make at least 2 models from the same > ammount of plastic. The upper wing has a prominnent "bulb" in > the middle so I have decided to make a new one. > I might turn it into a D IV. > > I had the benefit of showing the model to Neil C. this > weekend and I feel that he is somewhat concerned about my > mental state after this. Altough he did brought with him a > whole bunch of references.... > > > M緳ten > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:d_fernetti@hotmail.com] > Sent: den 12 november 2001 12:51 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Finished one > > > Steeeeve! > Nice model! Wel done! these old pegasus are truly a challenge for the > modeler but well worth the effort! > Regards > D. > > > >From: "Steven Perry" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Finished one > >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:35:58 -0500 (EST) > > > >I finished a Pegasus Bristol M.1c. I got the kit in trade > from a List > >member, but I cannot remember who it was. My apologies for > my memory and > >thanks again for the kit. > > > >It is an early Pegasus kit. No white metal or decals. Very > thick molding > >that took some cleanup. Builder expected to scratch kingpost, U/C and > >tailskid, but actual size templates given on the plans. A > buildable kit > >with > >some work. > > > >Mine is finished as one of 150 squadron based in Salonica. I > have to find > >some black tail numbers to complete it as a specific airframe. > > > >Photos at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/m1c.htm > > > >sp > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:05:25 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Re: 11th November - Polonia Restituta! Message-ID: Thanks for the wishes! I know that for most of us Nov. 11th is an international Veteran's Day, and I'd like to pass best wishes for all of you. It is really encouraging that we may celebrate the day together now, regardless we are Poles, Brits, Germans, Canadians, Italians, Aussies... Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:04:57 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: And you cook well too! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:08:22 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: <002501c16b7b$1b890ac0$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > > Well anyone who can turn a blob of orange plastic into a nice > > W.4 shouldn't > > have any trouble producing a dandy SSW out of the Pegasus kit. :-) > But the real question is WHY?!!! > /Neil C. Because a W.4 looks so much better than an orange blob ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:13:12 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: <002f01c16b7b$c832b3c0$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > How did you simulate these clear wing panels? > > Tomasz Thanks Tomasz They are just clear celophane packing tape. I cut them slightly oversize, applied them and trimmed very close to the edge with a sharp knife blade. Only trick is not to get fingerprints on the sticky side. I learned this from Jack Gartner when he used it on his Nie 17 that took a prize at the 99 Nats in Orlando. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:11:53 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?= To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: Why neil...... You are partly to blame. The one and only Winsock mag. I own is a floatplane issue from ???. In it there is 4 lovley drawings of floatplanes. Hansa Brandenburg w29, Fairy hamble and an Albatros W4. At this point I knew I wanted to have every one of these but I did慨t had any kits of them. By now I have finiched the W4 (my way) and are almost done with the W29. (Toko. Now. Neil is the guy that gave the Winsock magazine to a friend of mine who forwarded it to me !!! Thats why. M緳ten, forever thankfull. -----Original Message----- From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] Sent: den 12 november 2001 13:50 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Finished one > > Well anyone who can turn a blob of orange plastic into a nice > W.4 shouldn't > have any trouble producing a dandy SSW out of the Pegasus kit. :-) > > sp > > But the real question is WHY?!!! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:20:18 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: > > > Well anyone who can turn a blob of orange plastic into a nice > > > W.4 shouldn't > > > have any trouble producing a dandy SSW out of the Pegasus kit. :-) > > > But the real question is WHY?!!! > > /Neil C. > > Because a W.4 looks so much better than an orange blob ;-) > sp :-), but I meant doing a Pegasus SS DIII, when there is a a Toko/Roden/something available, but you wouldnt understand this pont of view I suppose, after all what is a Pegasus blob compared to a Merlin AEG! /Neil C: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:27:12 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Rio Claro open contest Message-ID: <004401c16b86$1f666b00$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Hello, list folks! After a nice Sunday in Rio Claro open contest, let me tell you what happened: The contest was not so big as the one in Campinas in August, even because Rio Claro is more distant from the biggest cities of Sao Paulo State (for me it was a 3-hour drive to reach the city, twice the distance between Sao Paulo and Campinas). But the place was very nice and friendly, something that usually gets lost when you have bigger events. Later I can tell you how many models there were. As a consequence of the small size of the contest, there was no WWI category. My two entries (Fokker D.VII and Pfalz D.IIIa) were in the "1/72-beginner-propellers-single engine" category. Five OT models in the right scale: while mine were in the "beginner" category, there were three others in the "main" category (also 1/72 - prop - single engine): two from listee Adriano Baumgartner: the Albatros D.Va and the RE8 (both were also in Campinas contest); and the Sopwith Camel which got second place in August. Now, the good news: Adriano's RE8 beat lots of B***9, P-*1 and F***0 and got a third place!!!!! Folks, join me in the congratulations for our friend! (BTW, he got also a gold medal with an ot diorama - believe me, it was *wooooooonderful*) Ah, yes, there are also less important scales. Only one OT model in Duplo scale, a veeeeeeery beeeeautiful Nieuport (I don't remember. 17, I guess). I already discovered the modeler's name and e-mail and sent him a message. Perhaps another listee in the future. Matt, if 1/48 is Duplo/balloon scale, how do we call 1/28? Three of the 4 Revell kits seen in Campinas were in Rio Claro: MvR's 425/17, Rickenbacker's Spad XII and a D.VII from Jasta 13. I didn't have time to check if these 1/48 and 1/28 models got prizes, but I've already contacted some people to discover it. I had a great time talking to Adriano Baumgartner and to ex-listee Alexandre Triffoni (who is trying to take to the darker side of the Force, because it's easier to make cockpit details and such things). For those who don't know why Adriano has been silent, he's a commercial pilot and is always flying, that's why he hasn't written to the list recently. But he's paying attention at what we are writing. BTW, Adriano's and Alexandre's comments about my Pfalz made my day :-))) Pictures are already in the laboratory. More news later, ok? Next contest: Dec 1st and 2nd, here in Sao Paulo. All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:27:32 +0100 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: holding struts to paint? Message-ID: During the weekend I did 16 wooden struts and 2 propellors for the Spad 12 and Schneider Tabloid. Now I need to varnish them, any good ideas about how to hold them? I usually fold sellotape over the ends, so that they look like a fence, then do the lot at once, but some always fall out. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:28:59 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Re: Finished one Message-ID: > only trick is not to get fingerprints on the sticky side. I learned this > from Jack Gartner when he used it on his Nie 17 that took a prize at the 99 > Nats in Orlando. Yikes! It sounds simple. I have to try it out. So there is no need to protect tacky side from inside? Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:35:07 -0600 From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "wwi-faq" Subject: Fokker Fighters by Crowood Press? Message-ID: <004701c16b7e$d9559340$3232b9cc@unionrai> Todd, I've had this book for sometime (and have all the other Albatros references on Fokker). Con's the photos aren't outstanding, the general arrangement drawings are not something I'd use for modeling and there's no color. Pro's of the book is coverage of early Fokker aircraft, company history, and the writings on German fighter contest. If you want it for modeling references (new schemes & great photos) I'd skip it and buy the Albatros publications on early Fokker fighters, DVII and the Triplane Special . If you are interested in Fokker history, construction problems and one time unique monoplane fighters it's worth it. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:38:37 +0100 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: holding struts to paint? Message-ID: > During the weekend I did 16 wooden struts and 2 propellors > for the Spad 12 and Schneider Tabloid. Now I need to > varnish them, any good ideas about how to hold them? The best way I have found is to glue rods of thick stretched sprue to the endings using CA glue and accelerator. It provides me with a handle to be tacked horizontally to two sided tape. Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:46:16 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Rio Claro open contest Message-ID: <00f201c16b80$678463c0$0200a8c0@x.pl> > Matt, if 1/48 is Duplo/balloon scale, how do we call 1/28? Zeppelin or Titanic scale? Greetings, Marcio! Grzes _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:59:08 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: Nieuport questions Message-ID: <011d01c16b82$343518a0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi list! All about Nieuport 11/16: 1. What colour has tailskid and its cover? 2. Was any FRENCH Nieu 11/16 in overall silver? I not, was any FRENCH 11/16 with silver undersurfaces? I made my Toko (in pre-list time) silver, because it was silver in computer games, so I liked that scheme. And now I have problem (it is not finished, so I can repaint it, but it has decals on wings, so I want to save them if it is possible) Greetings Greg _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:07:53 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Counterrotating engine SSW Message-ID: <005f01c16b83$6c22eac0$68aa72d4@FRITZweb> Ladies and gentlemen, maybe I am carrying owls to Athens (as a german saying goes) or puring water into the Rhine, but may I point out the fact that the Siemens-Halske engine had a single row rotary engine turning in one direction and the crankshaft (incl. propeller) turning in the opposite direction. It was a mechanic's nightmare and it was unreliable. But I won't count it to any 'counterrotating' types. It hadone single propeller. To all my knowledge there was no counterrotating-propeller-driven-aircraft-with-fixed-wings in WWI. But I may proven wrong.... Hans My usual offer: Any scans from the Munich Siemens-Halske required? Contact me off-line,please. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:14:41 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Berthold Message-ID: <012f01c16b84$5fce5f60$0200a8c0@x.pl> Herr Hauptmann! Great site! LOL! BTW, Wszjnski name sounds very Polish (all -ski names are Polish), but 'j' after 'sz' is against all Polish grammar and ortography. If it's intended, it's OK, but if you want to correct it, replace 'j' with 'i' :-) Where is Dzerkov? Somewhere in East Prussia (now Kaliningradskaya Oblast')? Warm greetings! Professor of Applied Ortography, Polygraphy and Monography, Editor in Chieftain of "Polish and Foreign Silly Names Review" Grzegorz Mazurowski "Black Pudding" von Krankenhaus ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:43 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Berthold > I wonder whether the Berthold strangulation story has been somehow transposed > from the very similar demise of August Schtink > > http://wwimodeler.com/j38dd/others.html > > Hptm Ritter (Dipl Ing) Karl Otto Titzlinger > Late of His Imperial Majesty's Jasta 38DD _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3884 **********************