WWI Digest 3882 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Roseplanes Kits by "Matt Bittner" 2) Eduard Fokker F.1 by "ibs4421" 3) Re: Fwd: Discussion on the WWI site on "Ltn. Olden's Pfalz" by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 4) Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 by "Matt Bittner" 5) Back even more by "Matt Bittner" 6) Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 by "ibs4421" 7) Re: Back even more by "Steven Perry" 8) Roden DVII (Late) update by "cameron rile" 9) Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 by "Steven Perry" 10) Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 by "ibs4421" 11) Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 by Artur Golebiewski 12) Did somebody mention an AEG in 1 48? by Artur Golebiewski 13) Re: Bah-day RE: 11th November - Polonia Restituta! by "Gaston Graf" 14) Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 by "Steven Perry" 15) Re: Bah-day RE: 11th November - Polonia Restituta! by "Steven Perry" 16) Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 by Lee 17) Burrows, William E.: Richthofen. A true history of the Rred Baron. by "Gaston Graf" 18) Re: Bah-day RE: 11th November - Polonia Restituta! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 19) Re: Did somebody mention an AEG in 1 48? by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 20) Re: Jager Miniatures Albatros J.I by "Sandy Adam" 21) Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 by Jan Vihonen 22) Re: Did somebody mention an AEG C IV in 1 48? by Artur Golebiewski 23) Part Fokker Dr.I set by "Matt Bittner" 24) IRAS SPAD SA.2 by "Matt Bittner" 25) Re:Re: Italian Nie.17 colour by daniele silvestri 26) Re: Jager Miniatures Albatros J.I by Todd Hayes 27) Re: Did somebody mention an AEG in 1 48? by Todd Hayes 28) Re: Burrows, William E.: Richthofen. A true history of the Rred Baron. by Todd Hayes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:55:00 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Roseplanes Kits Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:46:02 -0500 (EST), Todd Hayes wrote: > I get the distinct impression that you and Matt aren't > into 1:48? Gee, you *are* perceptive, aren't you! ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:59:31 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: <003901c16ac9$da9bd120$233dfad1@ibs4421> Fellers, It is good to be back on the list again, I've really missed ya'll. I have finally taken the plunge. I have not taken a #11 blade to styrene in over 25 years, however, that is going to change! I have decided that my first kit in my reclaiming of my hobby will be the Eduard Fokker F.1. In a risky move that will cause no end of controversy, I will attempt to build it as Voss' machine. :0 Some firsts for me: -I am going to try the Misterkit Fokker turquoise as a base, it will be airbrushed. -I have never used photo-etched parts before. I have heard that a soaking in vinegar will "etch" the metal to help the paint stick, is this not so? -Anything I should know about Eduard's decals? Solvents to use and/or avoid? - I have Barry's/Rosemont's F.1 correction kit. Working with resin will be a new experience as well. It is easy for me to see that the tail of the F.1 is different from the production Dr.1, but I am having a hard time seeing the difference between the top wing and cowling. I have not measured both out. What's the difference between the two? -I have the Squadron "In Action" book on the Dr.1 and the Windsock Datafile Special. Any other references that ya'll can think of that will help? Wish me luck! It's good to be back. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:03:26 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Fwd: Discussion on the WWI site on "Ltn. Olden's Pfalz" Message-ID: <006301c16aca$674e3040$0200a8c0@x.pl> Matt! > The scanned photo and caption come from a book by M.E. Kaehnert, > This book is > fiction, repeat, fiction. LOL! (so what about Gaston's time machine story? In 2098 someone can use it as historical source! ;-) Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:02:55 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:00:09 -0500 (EST), ibs4421 wrote: > It is good to be back on the list again, I've really missed > ya'll. Good to have you back. ;-) > I have finally taken the plunge. I have not taken a #11 blade to > styrene in over 25 years, however, that is going to change! I have decided > that my first kit in my reclaiming of my hobby will be the Eduard Fokker > F.1. In a risky move that will cause no end of controversy, I will attempt > to build it as Voss' machine. :0 Some firsts for me: > > -I am going to try the Misterkit Fokker turquoise as a base, it will be > airbrushed. Excellent choice! > -I have never used photo-etched parts before. I have heard that a > soaking in vinegar will "etch" the metal to help the paint stick, is this > not so? Don't know, but sometimes I use 600 wet and dry and lightly sand. > -Anything I should know about Eduard's decals? Solvents to use and/or > avoid? Haven't used any either. > - I have Barry's/Rosemont's F.1 correction kit. Working with resin will > be a new experience as well. It is easy for me to see that the tail of the > F.1 is different from the production Dr.1, but I am having a hard time > seeing the difference between the top wing and cowling. I have not measured > both out. What's the difference between the two? The cowl is shaped a bit differently. The only thing different on the top wing is the ailerons and their shape. Barry just thought it was easier to cast the entire top wing. > -I have the Squadron "In Action" book on the Dr.1 and the Windsock > Datafile Special. Any other references that ya'll can think of that will > help? As long as you don't "read" the In Action you're okay. The Datafile Special is the best reference on the type. However, if you're into more of the history of the type, then track down the Imrie book, although it's been out of print for a number of years. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:08:03 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Back even more Message-ID: Ah, it feels good to be back. Although I was working on the SPAD, I have still taken my time with it. In terms of deadlines, though, I have decided to get back to the Trio of Triplanes I was working on (although one is already finished). I have completed a Part p/e cockpit for the Roden kit and I have it glued into one fuselage half. Once I scan it for the IM article, then I'll glue the fuselage halves together and continue work on the other Part cockpit for the Eduard kit. I also managed to putty the seams on the SPAD, so it too is ongoing. Definitely feels good! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:11:26 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: <004f01c16acb$8498db40$233dfad1@ibs4421> Matt reshaped the electrons to write: However, if you're into > more of the history of the type, then track down the Imrie book, > although it's been out of print for a number of years. > > > Matt Bittner I am intersted in the history of the type, yes! Does anyone have the ISBN #, author, etc. of the Imrie book so that I can look for it? Abe Books perhaps? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:20:09 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Back even more Message-ID: <001f01c16acc$bb9102c0$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> >Once I scan it for the IM article, then I'll glue the fuselage halves > together and continue work on the other Part cockpit for the Eduard > kit. Watch The Cover ;-) sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:25:58 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roden DVII (Late) update Message-ID: Folks, Managed to spend some time this morning on the Roden DVII, I put its top wing on. Late last night I hung the outer struts from the top wing. I supported the wing on top of a cassette and since the DVII has the struts at 90 degrees to the wing, I glued them to the under part fo the top wing and let gravity set the struts to 90 degrees. This morning I attached the top wing and it is sitting in a jig of cassette tapes ( thanks for that tip Michael ). The Roden struts unlike their Toko brethren are pretty good, they are thin enough that they can be manouvred into the lower holes easily, but strong enough that the wing is supported ok. As is my normal practice I will create the cabane(?) struts with styrene and brass rod, since the DVII has bugger all rigging, I cant rely on metal wire giving it structural integrity. Didnt have to fight at all with the DVII struts, which is excellent. :) cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:31:14 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: <002701c16ace$47f60fc0$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Fellers, > It is good to be back on the list again, I've really missed > ya'll. Good to see you back Warren. > I have finally taken the plunge. I have not taken a #11 blade to > styrene in over 25 years, however, that is going to change! I have decided > that my first kit in my reclaiming of my hobby will be the Eduard Fokker > F.1 Sounds like an excellent choice. Can't help on the paint or decal questions as I've never used either product. I agree with Matt on the PE, just lightly and carefully burnish the surface with fine wet/dry. It will keep the paint from beading up on the brass. Still you may need 2 coats to completely cover. Better 2 light coats than one thick one the thick coat may hide more etched detail on some parts.. Keep us posted on your progress. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:33:19 -0600 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: <009f01c16ace$931ad120$233dfad1@ibs4421> You know, this is probably a stupid question/statement, but I assume that I need to get all of the bending done before I put paint to the photo-etch, is that correct? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:43:23 -0800 (PST) From: Artur Golebiewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: <20011111164323.19961.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> > > -I have never used photo-etched parts before. > I have heard that a > > soaking in vinegar will "etch" the metal to help > the paint stick, is this I just wash them out carefully in dishwashing liquid, then rinse, dry and then airbrush straight over that. When dry I then apply Future Floor Polish, works great, holds well and gives a nice "shiny" look to the Metal Parts...if not desired you can always dull them with a wash or matt paint. Artur __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:50:39 -0800 (PST) From: Artur Golebiewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Did somebody mention an AEG in 1 48? Message-ID: <20011111165039.53714.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com> Did somebody here mention an upcoming release of a 1 48 scale AEG CIV? I seem to have registerd it somewhere in memory but cannot find that message now. I hope that it would be the C and not the G twin engine kit. The only one I am aware of is the Sierra Vacuum...wow! that fuselage is easily less then half the wingspan, somewhat awkward looking fella.. Artur __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:11:58 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: Bah-day RE: 11th November - Polonia Restituta! Message-ID: That's what I wanted to say - ok, I said Boelcke was not as chivalrous as some people believe but he sure did the right thing to go after the crippled aircraft and maybe he would have to let it escape but his duty demanded of him to shoot it down. It's what MvR said: One becomes brutalized very quickly. The same phenomene that applied to the ground troops certainly applied to the airtroops as well. The boys went to war, enthusiastic, longing for adventure, but soon they sobered-up as they saw in the true face of war. To me still the best description of this can be found in "All quiet on the Western Front" by Erich Maria Remarque. After the records in the German books, the story about Boelcke saving the boy from drowining IS true. I will add it to my site as the translation of the field reports continues. Even though the Germans had a strong tendancy to falsify facts and let their troops appear always in a most heroic way, I do not believe that this story is pure fiction. It might have been glossed over a bit but what really happened is something that only the concerned people know and they are dead so we can only read what was told about it later. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Hi Gaston, > > Would Boelcke being doing his duty if he let the > aircraft escape? The enemy pilot could still possibly > have landed his aeroplane safely to be used against > Germany again. I think he behaved properly in a > military sense. Is the story true about Boelcke > saving a French child from drowning? > > Todd > > P.s. I don't have the pleasure of dealing with a > mother-in-law. Hope you survive it. > --- Gaston Graf wrote: > > Bah - today is the birthday of my mother in law... > > still she lives... > > Wanna know why mothers in law never come to heaven? > > That's because the > > maximum ceiling of a dragon is only a mere 900ft, > > hehe. > > > > uuhmmm........ot....I know.......but what about > > this: Our dear chivalrous > > Boelcke maybe was not that chivalrous at all. There > > is a story of a French > > Farman biplane that he attacked, shooting the kite > > badly up. He was stunned > > to see the observer suddenly leaving his cockpit to > > take place on a wing. He > > then realized the observer did this to keep the > > balance of the badly damaged > > kite... But good old Ossi kept on firing at the > > pilot to make sure they will > > never get back home. The pilot tried to land, but > > crashed from low altitude > > as the Farman went out of control... > > > > Maybe the one and only true chivalrous dogfight > > happened between Udet and > > Gynemer as Udets guns jammed if there ever was a > > chivalrous dofight at > > all... > > > > Gasterix :o) > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:41:12 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: <003901c16ad8$0e658920$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ibs4421" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 > You know, this is probably a stupid question/statement, but I assume that I > need to get all of the bending done before I put paint to the photo-etch, is > that correct? > > Warren I find it easier to paint first, scrape where necessary and then cut from the fret. I can remove and touch up the burrs and any other odd places when it's bent and glued. ymmv sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:58:29 -0500 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Bah-day RE: 11th November - Polonia Restituta! Message-ID: <004101c16ada$7843ab40$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > That's what I wanted to say - ok, I said Boelcke was not as chivalrous as > some people believe but he sure did the right thing to go after the crippled > aircraft and maybe he would have to let it escape but his duty demanded of > him to shoot it down. It's what MvR said: One becomes brutalized very > quickly. Was there ever any real question? Translated into modern American, Dicta Boelcke says, "Sneak up on his blind side till you can't possibly miss and blow his S%!# away before he figures out hes dead." Extraordinarally effective tactic, but hardly the flower of chivalry.....if there ever was such a thing. Dicta Ira is ever so much better an idea. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:17:08 -0600 From: Lee To: wwi@wwi-models.org, ibs4421 Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: <3BEEC0A4.8060801@x25.net> Absolutely correct beyond the shadow of doubt. That little flimsy stuff is tough enough to bend unmounted. After it is glued in (any) place it becomes, instantly, impossible. Better to ask than to do it wrong... I see you made the wwi connection ok. Enjoy. There is a big world out there and the members are located all over it. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX ibs4421 wrote: > You know, this is probably a stupid question/statement, but I assume that I > need to get all of the bending done before I put paint to the photo-etch, is > that correct? > > Warren > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:10:12 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Burrows, William E.: Richthofen. A true history of the Rred Baron. Message-ID: Friends, does anybody know this book? Is it any good? Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:18:36 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Bah-day RE: 11th November - Polonia Restituta! Message-ID: <009601c16add$49967b80$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi Friends! I'm not offended, but please, remove "Polonia Restituta" from topic line, when you talking about things not very much connected. BTW, I've read in article about Flik 60/J, that bombing airfields (eg. Flik 11/F) with Cooper bombs by British Camels ('offensive patrols') on Italian front was by Austrians counted as very unfair activity! Greetings Grzegorz > Translated into modern American, Dicta Boelcke says, "Sneak up on his blind > side till you can't possibly miss and blow his S%!# away before he figures > out hes dead." _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:40:40 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Did somebody mention an AEG in 1 48? Message-ID: As I recall it was to be a Hi-Tech release. The beef was that some Webstores are (aledgedly) advertising it before it's actually available. Nothing new there then. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:59:52 -0000 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Re: Jager Miniatures Albatros J.I Message-ID: <002a01c16aeb$87b61340$20e8b094@sandyada> >Justin Young at Jager M. sent me a reply.... I dropped into Jager's office in Glasgow on Friday morning and had a good long chat with Justin. I departed with one of his Rumpler kits after having a good squizzy (how's that Shane?) at the Albatros J-I and the C-X. The J-I is quite spectacular with all the armour plating and the downward firing MG. Justin had built test models of both to take down to UK Nats at Telford last weekend and some of the bits were not finalised - ie he'd used the Rumpler undercarrage struts for both to get them finished. If you can afford them, both these kits will be well worth having and I'll sell the kids or something . Unfortunately the cost is inevitable given the short run and overheads. The J-I includes a couple of superb figures - the observer with a coal scuttle helmet. Justin said he fancies doing a 1/48 WWI truck next - he showed me a picture of a truck pulling a damaged Rumpler and thought this would be invaluable for dioramas. Sounds great to me. He knows of the list and has a gander at the digests occasionally. Knows most of the names so, if you correspond with him, say Hi. He also told me he knows of another resin manufacturer who is currently working on a 1/48 Hansa Brandenburg G-I ( you know the big twin engined bomber.) Life isn't bad in the Scale of Kings is it? Sandy PS Jager is situated in an old factory complex in an extremely rough part of Glasgow - if you've seen Trainspotting - think of the pub where the american tourist makes the mistake of dropping in for a drink - not the best place for an unaccompanied stroll!!! PPS Cromwell Miniatures are next door and do all the resin casting for Justin. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:39:35 +0200 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker F.1 Message-ID: <3BEEE207.84092076@helsinki.fi> Warren, > I am intersted in the history of the type, yes! Does anyone have the ISBN > #, author, etc. of the Imrie book so that I can look for it? Abe Books > perhaps? > The details you asked are: Alex Imrie, The Fokker Triplane. London 1992. ISBN 1-85409-118-2. And yes, it's an excellent book. HTH. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: Artur Golebiewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Did somebody mention an AEG C IV in 1 48? Message-ID: <20011111211616.10131.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> --- LEONARDPeterL@aol.com wrote: > As I recall it was to be a Hi-Tech release. The beef > was that some Webstores > are (aledgedly) advertising it before it's actually > available. Nothing new > there then. Thanks I checked on that but unfortunately it is the wrong one, I am looking for the single engined one...the "c" not the "G'. Any gossip of that ever coming out in plastic?...perhaps resin?....no? just the Sierra vacuform then?...oh well, I will need to buy a case of No. 11 knives then...such is life! Artur __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:28:46 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Part Fokker Dr.I set Message-ID: Having just closed up the fuselage halves on a Roden Dr.I utilizing the Part photoetch set, I thought I would pass on a couple of pointers (which will appear in my article for whenever I get all three finished (okay, just two now, but...)). First of all, it's quite the feat getting it all folded together. Why Part decided to mold the entire interior framework from just behind the nose to just in front of the horizontal tail is beyond me. Be that as it may, though, it generally does fit, with only minor sanding hear and there on the insides of the Roden fuselage halves. When mounting the floor, be sure to mount it as low as possible. Otherwise the nicely molded control column (which needs beefing up with white glue) will sit too high in the cockpit. This will take some deft folding of the mounting "brackets", but it can be done. Don't worry about the "over scale" wood grain. When it's all closed up hardly any of it will show. I used an oil wash to pop out the "grain", and I think it's "good enough". The most difficult aspect revolves around what I think is the fuel tank. It's a "large" structure on the p/e fret that's supposed to be "folded" (more like "bent") into a "shape". There are no fold lines; no creases to help you out. All I can say for it is to be sure you have a pair of small, flat nosed pliers (or maybe the "fold it tool") to help with this part (no pun intended ;-). Another tricky area that revolves around this piece is when you add it to the folded up cockpit structure. There are two mounting "brackets" that are to be folded for it to sit between. Be sure the "fuel tank" (or whatever it's supposed to represent) has its front edge flush with the front edge (front being toward the cockpit). Otherwise the ammo "cannister" that Roden supplies won't fit. I hope this helps those partaking in this combination. It's obvious the Part set is definitely meant for the Roden kit as when everything is lined up correctly the Part cockpit fits in very nicely. Although I haven't tried, you may be able to get away with adding the p/e cockpit after the fuselage halves are assembled. Something I just thought of. ;-) Now for my next trick - getting the Part cockpit to fit in the *Eduard*, non-profi kit. This is not going to be easy, and I expect plenty of "surgery"... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:32:42 -0800 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: IRAS SPAD SA.2 Message-ID: Well, having looked some more in Red Stars 3 (which covers Russian/Soviet aircraft up to 1941) as well as the Russian Civil War Aircraft book, I was wrong when I said that the Russians flew only SA.4s. Figures. I knew once I said something like that I would find evidence to the contrary. When Bob asked about the *Soviet* SA, it surprised me that it was actually an SA.*2* and not a 4. Ah well, sorry for the mix up. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:57:50 +0100 From: daniele silvestri To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re:Re: Italian Nie.17 colour Message-ID: <4.3.0.20011111225716.00a7a8a0@mail.clubnet.tin.it> At 14.27 11/11/01 +0100, you wrote: >Dear Daniele, > >AFAIK, Italian Jieuport 17s were almost all in aluminium finish overall. >There were a few exceptions, but I believe that was not the case of the >machine you are researching. > >All the very best, > >Alberto Casirati > >Honorary Keeper - Aviation Section >Bergamo Museum of History > >www.museostoricobg.org Thanks for help, you save me, a light gray was ready to use ;)) bye daniele ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:18:36 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jager Miniatures Albatros J.I Message-ID: <20011111221836.41972.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Sandy, Thanks for the info. Justin definitely is making some excellent choices for kits. I think the truck would go over well too. I thought the J.I landing gear looked kind of odd! Todd --- Sandy Adam wrote: > > >Justin Young at Jager M. sent me a reply.... > > I dropped into Jager's office in Glasgow on Friday > morning and had a good > long chat with Justin. I departed with one of his > Rumpler kits after having > a good squizzy (how's that Shane?) at the Albatros > J-I and the C-X. The J-I > is quite spectacular with all the armour plating and > the downward firing MG. > Justin had built test models of both to take down to > UK Nats at Telford last > weekend and some of the bits were not finalised - ie > he'd used the Rumpler > undercarrage struts for both to get them finished. > If you can afford them, > both these kits will be well worth having and I'll > sell the kids or > something . Unfortunately the cost is inevitable > given the short run and > overheads. > > The J-I includes a couple of superb figures - the > observer with a coal > scuttle helmet. Justin said he fancies doing a 1/48 > WWI truck next - he > showed me a picture of a truck pulling a damaged > Rumpler and thought this > would be invaluable for dioramas. Sounds great to > me. > > He knows of the list and has a gander at the digests > occasionally. Knows > most of the names so, if you correspond with him, > say Hi. > > He also told me he knows of another resin > manufacturer who is currently > working on a 1/48 Hansa Brandenburg G-I ( you know > the big twin engined > bomber.) Life isn't bad in the Scale of Kings is it? > > Sandy > PS Jager is situated in an old factory complex in an > extremely rough part of > Glasgow - if you've seen Trainspotting - think of > the pub where the american > tourist makes the mistake of dropping in for a drink > - not the best place > for an unaccompanied stroll!!! > PPS Cromwell Miniatures are next door and do all the > resin casting for > Justin. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:22:23 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Did somebody mention an AEG in 1 48? Message-ID: <20011111222223.41610.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Artur, Copper State Models is working on a 1:48 AEG C.IV. Todd --- Artur Golebiewski wrote: > Did somebody here mention an upcoming release of a 1 > 48 scale AEG CIV? I seem to have registerd it > somewhere in memory but cannot find that message > now. > I hope that it would be the C and not the G twin > engine kit. The only one I am aware of is the Sierra > Vacuum...wow! that fuselage is easily less then half > the wingspan, somewhat awkward looking fella.. Artur > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:32:08 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Burrows, William E.: Richthofen. A true history of the Rred Baron. Message-ID: <20011111223208.641.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Gaston, I've read it several times when I was growing up. It's a decent book, but I'd say it's more for younger readers than adults. Still it's fun reading. Todd --- Gaston Graf wrote: > Friends, > > does anybody know this book? Is it any good? > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" > at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3882 **********************