WWI Digest 3875 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: pfalz by "Gaston Graf" 2) LINKS: The Heritage of the Great War + The National Military Museum of Diekirch by "Gaston Graf" 3) Re: Belated Introduction by "jje4@earthlink.net" 4) Blue Rider Decals by Balzer Mr Gregory P 5) Re: Belated Introduction by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Decal Help-ot Alert!!! by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 7) RE: LINKS by "Diego Fernetti" 8) Re: Re Adventures in Modelling etc etc etc by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 9) Cramer Vacs by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 10) Re: Blue Rider Decals by "Brent Theobald" 11) Roland D,VIb by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 12) Re: rigging manual by "Lance Krieg" 13) Re: Blue Rider Decals by Balzer Mr Gregory P 14) Roland D,VIb by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 15) Re: rigging manual by "Diego Fernetti" 16) Re: rigging manual by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 17) Re: pfalz by "Hans Trauner" 18) Re: rigging manual by "Diego Fernetti" 19) Re: pfalz by "Diego Fernetti" 20) Re: pfalz by "Hans Trauner" 21) Re: Gavia Bristol Fighter by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 22) Re: CA Zip Kicker by "Brian Nicklas" 23) Re: Re Adventures in Modelling etc etc etc by Mark Miller 24) CyA chemistry by Sanjeev Hirve 25) Re: CmA on CyA Chemistry by "Mark Shannon" 26) Re: Re Adventures in Modelling etc etc etc by "Lance Krieg" 27) RAF FE.2b Questions by Sanjeev Hirve 28) New Book by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:34:06 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: pfalz Message-ID: Glad I could help you all with this! I checked "The Jasta Pilots" but found no pilot mentionned by the name "Baumann". But strange to me is that Bäumer isn't listed either, so I wonder if Norman Franks forgot about those guys or not. But a "Franz Roth" is mentionned to have flown with Jasta34b from Nov7, 1917 - Oct22 1918 --> FEA2b 22.Oct.1918. Joined Jasta34b from AFP7 (Armee Flugzeug Park 7). Was OzbV for J34b (Offizier zur besonderen Verwendung). Perhaps Baumann flew with J34b as well? cheers! Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Gasterix! > > The picture was scanned from a page that contained three pictures. The > > description reads: > > > > above left: Oberleutnant Oden > > right: German reconaissance aircraft > > below (the picture shown): Olden and Baumann. > > It helps a lot! I presume that the pilot (at right) is Baumann, > and not Roth > as captioned in the O'Connor book. If it were Roth after all, the bands of > the fuselage would have been black and white -for Prussia- but if he were > Baumann the colours wouldn't be so. Does anyone cares to check if > there was > a Baumann pilot credited out the in "The Jasta Pilots"? Knowing > the unit of > this guy may clarify the colours of the band. > I'm always inclined to believe what's written in a Marty o'Connor > book, but > this caption seem to be from a contemporary publication, so I'm undecided > about the real name of the pilot here... > TIA > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:23:00 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: LINKS: The Heritage of the Great War + The National Military Museum of Diekirch Message-ID: Friends, I don't know if this link is already known to the list but Neil Eddy just send it to me off list since he had to unsub for a while: http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/8054/ It is a fantastic site! Impressive collection of pictures - not heroes pictures but pictures of the true face of war. But of all the horror on those pictures, the one that shocked me most is the one you will see after entering the site. The sad row of little girls, all orphans who lost their parents really hit me in the middle of my heart, maybe because the little one who stands before the girl in the white dress ressembles so much my own little daughter....... ------------------------------------------------------ Something ot but also about war is this link: http://www.nat-military-museum.lu/m-index.html It will bring you to the website of the Luxemburgish Battle of the Bulge museum. Like the musuem itself, the website is also impressive. I visited the museum this summer and can recommend it to everybody who is interested into the Battle of the Bulge as well as history of the Luxemburgish Army. Regarding WW1, the museum is holding only one French WW1 uniform as well as a WW1 Lewis machine gun but the rest is definetly worth a visit. Please be patient with the virtual visit pages because they load the pictures in the background and you will get them when clicking on the buttons. I will add links to both sites to Jasta Boelcke off course. happy surfing! Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:21:18 -0500 From: "jje4@earthlink.net" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Belated Introduction Message-ID: Hi Folks, I should have done this a few weeks ago when I signed up, but I guess better late than never. First, let me thank everyone who responded to my inquiry about Sopwith Triplane colors. I'm becoming more interested in N500, and may persue that scheme on my model. I found a profile of it in the Profile Publication. Now that I found out some color info, I have to confess that I may use it on a stick and tissue version I plan to build instead of a plastic model - GASP - HORROR! I hope I'm still welcome on the list. Actually, I'm really struggling w/ how to ease back into plastic modeling after about 25-30 years, and lurking on the list has really helped me gain an appreciation for what level of detail I should strive for. I have purchased a couple of 1/72 kits that were recommended the last time I was on the list, but haven't gotten around to building them. I also think that I'd like to start out in 1/48, to get my feet wet again. I'm not even sure if I know how or where to begin. Boy, does that sound pathetic or what. My ultimate goal is to build at least one version of all the Sopwiths I can find. So anyway, thanks for listening and welcoming a stick and tissue modeler to the club. Any help and or guidance is always appreciated. Thanks. john ernst lansdale, pa -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:37:09 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C976BF9BAF@TECOM03E> Good Morning All, I have located a set of Blue Rider Decals that will allow me to complete my DML Dr. 1 accurately. Just wondered what the collective opinion is on Blue Rider Decals, and from your experiences, what setting solution works (or does not work) with these. You can reply offlist to me. TIA Greg Balzer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:40:45 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Belated Introduction Message-ID: <71.15619f45.291c017d@aol.com> In a message dated 11/8/01 6:22:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, jje4@earthlink.net writes: << Now that I found out some color info, I have to confess that I may use it on a stick and tissue version I plan to build instead of a plastic model - GASP - HORROR! I hope I'm still welcome on the list. >> Still welcome???No way- now bow your head and slink off into the dark.............. HECK YES! All kinds and types of WW I modeling are welcome. Keep us updated with progress reports RK (who many years ago scratch built a stick/tissue Sop Tripe) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:48:01 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Decal Help-ot Alert!!! Message-ID: Hi Folks, I recently bought a Tamiya F4U-1A kit. I thought it came with decals for Lt.(jg) Ira Kepford's "29". It no longer seems to come with that version..Only 2 diff. Does anyone have a spare set of these in 1/48??? I think Superscale or Aeromaster also did them as well....I have looked high and low thru my decal stash and can't find 'em...Any help appreciated!!!! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:13:19 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: LINKS Message-ID: <02c601c16870$480caa60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Excellent site, Gasterix! Thanks! We usually forget that WW1 wasn't just funny airplanes in gaudy schemes. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaston Graf To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: [WWI] LINKS: The Heritage of the Great War + The National Military Museum of Diekirch > Friends, > > I don't know if this link is already known to the list but Neil Eddy just > send it to me off list since he had to unsub for a while: > http://www.geocities.com/soho/gallery/8054/ > > It is a fantastic site! Impressive collection of pictures - not heroes > pictures but pictures of the true face of war. > But of all the horror on those pictures, the one that shocked me most is the > one you will see after entering the site. The sad row of little girls, all > orphans who lost their parents really hit me in the middle of my heart, > maybe because the little one who stands before the girl in the white dress > ressembles so much my own little daughter....... > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Something ot but also about war is this link: > http://www.nat-military-museum.lu/m-index.html > > It will bring you to the website of the Luxemburgish Battle of the Bulge > museum. Like the musuem itself, the website is also impressive. I visited > the museum this summer and can recommend it to everybody who is interested > into the Battle of the Bulge as well as history of the Luxemburgish Army. > Regarding WW1, the museum is holding only one French WW1 uniform as well as > a WW1 Lewis machine gun but the rest is definetly worth a visit. Please be > patient with the virtual visit pages because they load the pictures in the > background and you will get them when clicking on the buttons. > > I will add links to both sites to Jasta Boelcke off course. > > happy surfing! > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:21:00 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Re Adventures in Modelling etc etc etc Message-ID: If you are adding PE parts to a plastic part, try the following. First, put a drop of liquid cement in the place where the PE part will go. Place it on the drop of cement and then move it into the correct position. The liquid cement will soften the plastic enough to hold the PE in place. When you are satisfied with the position, by using capillary action, touch a drop of CA to the edge of the part. It will flow around and under the part. Next comes a drop of Kicker, which sets the CA off and has the part firmly attached. The liquid cement gives you the time to do the final positioning of the part, instead of having to be dead on to start with. As it cures, it makes a temporary bond with the PE and holds it in place. The CA (thin stuff) will flow around and under the part, and the kicker will cause it to cure completely, which locks the part in place. The other plus comes in if you are placing detail parts on painted surfaces. The liquid cement dissolves the paint a bit and gives the CA something to hang on to, instead of the paint that will chip off. I do not use the spray head for the kicker. I use a needle or some other instrument of choice to place just a drop of kicker to the joint and not all round the area as well. This also makes a bottle of kicker last many years instead of months. JP ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:18:27 -0500 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Cramer Vacs Message-ID: Hi Folks, I have the following Cramer vacs: Roland D.II 1/48 Bristol M.1.C 1/48 Anyone want one or both of these???? These seem like a good base to start with, if you're a glutton for work.... First email gets them.... Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:27:42 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: Hi Greg, I have used Blue Rider decals on a few models. Drawbacks: They are a little thicker than average and are too translucent at times. I hade to stack two roundels on my Colorful Pup so the blue and red diamonds wouldn't show through. No big deal. Advantages: Good subject material. Good registration etc. IIRC Micro-Sol/Set work good, but the Waldron's is too powerful. It wound up bleaching some of my diamonds on the Colorful Pup. Some careful hand painting was required to touch that up. I would not hesitate to use them again. Go for it! Later! Brent >From: Balzer Mr Gregory P >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Blue Rider Decals >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:40:18 -0500 (EST) > >Good Morning All, >I have located a set of Blue Rider Decals that will allow me to complete my >DML Dr. 1 accurately. Just wondered what the collective opinion is on Blue >Rider Decals, and from your experiences, what setting solution works (or >does not work) with these. You can reply offlist to me. >TIA >Greg Balzer _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:30:17 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roland D,VIb Message-ID: I have a question for the masses. On the Roland D.VIb, was the Loz on the wings and tail applied in a long strip from tip to tip, diagonally, or front to back parallel to the ribs. The kit instructions are of no help, and I do not have any other ref material at hand. Also, does any one have a basic rigging diagram. I can figure out where most of the wires go from the cover picture, but there are some questionable areas. JP ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:41:02 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: rigging manual Message-ID: Diego covets: "... a book worth bidding ..." I have this book, and in truth it is not that valuable for our purposes (IMHO), so take heart! Aside from the drawings of the various rigging runs, the most useful feature are the charts that tell what diameter wire the riggers are to use. Lance Now what am I to do with my Argentine bond holdings? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:41:10 -0500 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Blue Rider Decals Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C976BF9BCC@TECOM03E> Thanks Brent, I think I will go ahead and get the decals, if for no other reason than I cannot seem to find the fat Balken Kreuze I'm looking for any where else. To overcome the translucence, I will probably custom cut some express mask and put down a base coat of white to outline the cross, over the Richtoffen red, which should provide a nice opaque background on which to deposit the decal. Appreciate the assist. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Brent Theobald [mailto:halberstadtcl2@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Blue Rider Decals Hi Greg, I have used Blue Rider decals on a few models. Drawbacks: They are a little thicker than average and are too translucent at times. I hade to stack two roundels on my Colorful Pup so the blue and red diamonds wouldn't show through. No big deal. Advantages: Good subject material. Good registration etc. IIRC Micro-Sol/Set work good, but the Waldron's is too powerful. It wound up bleaching some of my diamonds on the Colorful Pup. Some careful hand painting was required to touch that up. I would not hesitate to use them again. Go for it! Later! Brent >From: Balzer Mr Gregory P >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Blue Rider Decals >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:40:18 -0500 (EST) > >Good Morning All, >I have located a set of Blue Rider Decals that will allow me to complete my >DML Dr. 1 accurately. Just wondered what the collective opinion is on Blue >Rider Decals, and from your experiences, what setting solution works (or >does not work) with these. You can reply offlist to me. >TIA >Greg Balzer _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:47:36 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roland D,VIb Message-ID: I don't know if this made it out the first time or not, my computer locked up as I was sending it. If it did, my apologies for bothering you a second time with the same question. I have a question for the masses. On the Roland D.VIb, was the Loz on the wings and tail applied in a long strip from tip to tip, diagonally, or front to back parallel to the ribs. The kit instructions are of no help, and I do not have any other ref material at hand. Also, does any one have a basic rigging diagram. I can figure out where most of the wires go from the cover picture, but there are some questionable areas. JP ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:57:43 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: rigging manual Message-ID: <032201c16876$91b6f200$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ohhh dissapointment! I tough it would be much easier than trying to decipher the fuzzy pictures we're forced to examine somtimes to determine the rigging positions and the attachment points of the various wires around the wing and tailplanes. In any cae it would be useful at least for the flying models, where the rigging is usually functional. > Now what am I to do with my Argentine bond holdings? No worries, Lance, your grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-gran d-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-gr and-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand- grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand children would sell those bonds for much more of what you paid today ;-) D. why not investing in Airfix triplane kits? They may become collectible someday. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:44 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: rigging manual > Diego covets: > > "... a book worth bidding ..." > > I have this book, and in truth it is not that valuable for our purposes (IMHO), so take heart! > > Aside from the drawings of the various rigging runs, the most useful feature are the charts that tell what diameter wire the riggers are to use. > > Lance > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:04:27 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Re: rigging manual Message-ID: <002801c1687f$cee82460$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> D., > why not investing in Airfix triplane kits? They may become collectible > someday. I'm investing in Revell 1/72 Fokker D.VII's, but I plan to build them all. All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:08:09 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: pfalz Message-ID: <002c01c16877$f1604660$c5a172d4@FRITZweb> Text means literally: Top left: Oberleutnant Olden; Right: German reconnaissance aircraft; Bottom: Olden and Baumann This text obviously refers to three pics, the text 'Olden and Baumann' matches best. But now the enigma: There is a very similiar picture of the same (?) aircraft, but with Fritz von Röth at the controls, who flew for various bavarian Jastas. I have asked Volker offline already, if we can dig out any additional info, we will inform you. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: [WWI] pfalz > Any of our germanic friends! > Check this one: http://www.altearmee.de/archiv/photoarchiv/Flieger02.jpg > I like the paint scheme, but I can't read the text below. i've never seen > this scheme before! Do you know of any other picture of this machine? Bob, > did you drew this one before? > Regards > D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:14:50 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: rigging manual Message-ID: <034601c16878$e00d0b40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Unfortunately Lance won't be able to get as many advantages from his argie stocks, I'm afraid... Unless he prints those delightful paper models on their back! :-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcio Antonio Campos To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: rigging manual > D., > > > why not investing in Airfix triplane kits? They may become collectible > > someday. > > I'm investing in Revell 1/72 Fokker D.VII's, but I plan to build them all. > > All the best from Brazil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:20:43 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: pfalz Message-ID: <035301c16879$b25486a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks a lot Hans and Gaston (for the previous post)! If the plane flew with a bavarian Jasta, wouldn't be natural then that the band colours were blue and white? Since Gaston haven't found references to Baumann in his books, I even tought that Baumann may have been another member of the crew, as Herr Olden, but "disguised" as a pilot. Any info will be greatly appreciated Regards D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Trauner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: pfalz > Text means literally: > > Top left: Oberleutnant Olden; Right: German reconnaissance aircraft; Bottom: > Olden and Baumann > > > This text obviously refers to three pics, the text 'Olden and Baumann' > matches best. > But now the enigma: There is a very similiar picture of the same (?) > aircraft, but with Fritz von Röth at the controls, who flew for various > bavarian Jastas. I have asked Volker offline already, if we can dig out any > additional info, we will inform you. > > Hans > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diego Fernetti" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:10 PM > Subject: [WWI] pfalz > > > > Any of our germanic friends! > > Check this one: http://www.altearmee.de/archiv/photoarchiv/Flieger02.jpg > > I like the paint scheme, but I can't read the text below. i've never seen > > this scheme before! Do you know of any other picture of this machine? Bob, > > did you drew this one before? > > Regards > > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:21:23 +0100 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: pfalz Message-ID: <00c201c16879$ca3fe0c0$c5a172d4@FRITZweb> Hmm, was slow again. Other list members were faster, as usual. Fritz Röth was born in Nuernberg and we still have a Fritz von Röth Strasse here. He was awarded with the Bavarian Max Joseph Orden which made him a 'von'. Posthomously! He shot himself through the head in the night from 31st Dec 1918 to Jan 1st 1919. The award was made somewere in June 1919. He himself never called himself a 'von'. I do not have the O'connor pic at hand. But this scan from the homepage does not show Fritz Röth. I am pretty sure as I made some research and now his face well. Hans Maybe Volker knows more or better. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: pfalz > Text means literally: > > Top left: Oberleutnant Olden; Right: German reconnaissance aircraft; Bottom: > Olden and Baumann > > > This text obviously refers to three pics, the text 'Olden and Baumann' > matches best. > But now the enigma: There is a very similiar picture of the same (?) > aircraft, but with Fritz von Röth at the controls, who flew for various > bavarian Jastas. I have asked Volker offline already, if we can dig out any > additional info, we will inform you. > > Hans > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diego Fernetti" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:10 PM > Subject: [WWI] pfalz > > > > Any of our germanic friends! > > Check this one: http://www.altearmee.de/archiv/photoarchiv/Flieger02.jpg > > I like the paint scheme, but I can't read the text below. i've never seen > > this scheme before! Do you know of any other picture of this machine? Bob, > > did you drew this one before? > > Regards > > D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 12:43:56 EST From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gavia Bristol Fighter Message-ID: <17.1e36d196.291c1e5c@aol.com> In a message dated 07/11/01 19:18:26 GMT Standard Time, halberstadtcl2@hotmail.com writes: << Any pitfalls? >> Not really. Only that neither decal option is appropriate to the version kitted. Both should have the smaller tail and the Hawker option a centre section cutout. Someone told me that the Lewis is the French version but I don't know enough to say. If the markings issue bothers you ( 99% of modelers don't give a hoot and 100% of the uninitiated live in blissful ignorance ) then either replace the decals or modify the kit. Otherwise dicta Ira applies, and it really is a nice kit. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:00:55 -0500 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: CA Zip Kicker Message-ID: I have found that a bottle of Zip Kicker when sprayed leaves a kind of slimy residue. Another good reason to dispense it by using a needle, toothpick or bamboo sliver. Be careful using the hypo-needle type applicators, the CA can draw into the tip and clog it right quickly while the Kicker is being applied. And leaving the little plastic cover over the spray head when not in use really helps prevent evaporation. I also found that I had a paper cut when using the Zip Kicker. A little of that stuff got on me and I invented a few new swear words... ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 2001 10:48:28 -0800 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Re Adventures in Modelling etc etc etc Message-ID: <20011108184828.11682.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 08 November 2001, John Huggins wrote: ".. if you are placing detail parts on painted surfaces. The liquid cement dissolves the paint a bit and gives the CA something to hang on to, instead of the paint that will chip off." John Does this work for you?? I would think that any paint left on a bonding surface would considerably weaken the resultant bond. Even if it does gets melted by liquid cement well... if it DOES work - I've wasted hundreds of hours over the past 20 years or so, scraping away the paint to get a clean plastic to plastic bond. And cleaning up glueing surfaces is NOT one of my favorite modeling tasks. But, the only task I like less is performing maintenance on old models which have had parts fall off. An all to common occurance in my ageing model collection. Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:50:42 -0500 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: CyA chemistry Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C8D7@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> While on the topic of CyA, latest issue of Finescale Modeller carries a reader's tip about mixing talcum powder with CA. It is claimed that the resulting paste sets fast, is easy to work, - sand, file etc. I personally havent tested it yet. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:13:07 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: CmA on CyA Chemistry Message-ID: There have been many tips on mixing materials into cyanoacrylate glues for filling agents. Just a few general warnings: 1. Don't use the baking soda/CA method on any model you are going to really care about. This mixture is not stable, and moisture from the air will get in, dissolve or react with the baking soda, and you may find 'explosive' gaps in the fill in later years. 2. Microballoons should be a stable fill with CA. These are small glass or plastic hollow beads, and should be inert. They are a bit on the expensive side, however. 3. In using talcum powder or any other such, remember that it must be totally perfume, additive, and chemical free. 'Baby Powder Scent' is an added perfume, and many formulations are cut with cornstarch to give extra absorbency. Talc is not the most stable of minerals, and the lubricated feel may also indicate potential for adhesion problems. 4. Use of cornstarch, powdered sugar, cornmeal, flour, etc. in CA or dioramas may lead to pest problems as well as stability concerns. That dead giant cockroach was not a part of the battle of the Marne, you know. I find that straight gap-filling type CA is fine for most fills that I need to do. If it is a really wide gap, such as in some of the older kits, I may bridge the gap first with some scrap sprue dissolved in liquid cement, then use the CA in the final filling. The only three problems with using the gap-filling CA for these are that it is somewhat expensive, it must be done when you have an opportunity to complete the sanding down, and that sometimes it is difficult to see if you have gotten a smooth surface, or left a little lump that will only show up under paint. (Personally, I hate spraying a coat of paint to use it as an indicator of where further seam work is needed. It is one of my least favorite parts of modeling. I prefer to have a 'once it's done, it's done' type build.) .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:37:51 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Re Adventures in Modelling etc etc etc Message-ID: John, Mark and Steve have been talking about liquid cement on painted surfaces: Actually, I have noticed and used this phenomenon, too; the cement will loosen the paint coat, adhere a piece, and the paint settles back down. This mostly works with the very "hottest" glues, like Tenax. But the holding power is grossly compromised, and this is only suitable for small details. Also, the long term tenacity of the bond is questionable, I would think. But it might be worth trying on those aeroskin applications, through the paper and the paint to the wing structure. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:28:18 -0500 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: RAF FE.2b Questions Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C8E0@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Hello List, I have some questions and requests on the RAF FE2.b 1- Does Bob Pearson's CD carry profiles of RFC FE2.bs. 2- I dont want to build my 1:48 kit with decals from the box. My main challenge is the going to be the Lettering. Handpainting is not an option (lack of skill). Printing my own decals is also not feasible as I dont have the appr software or the printer. Is there a decal or stencil product on the market that I can use? 3- Failing #2, would somebody on the list be willing to create and print the decals for me. Decals would be limited to Lettering and perhaps simple markings. Thanks in advance SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:39:45 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: New Book Message-ID: I just came across a listing for a new book and was wondering if anyone has seen it yet and can comment. It's called _The French Air Service War Chronology 1914-1918_. It looks intriguing, but it's also about US$45. TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3875 **********************