WWI Digest 3871 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: by "David R. Crowell" 2) Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by "Michael Kendix" 3) Re: Albatros D.V/DVa question by "Bob Pearson" 4) Re: Semi-OT Story by "Michael Kendix" 5) re: Semi-OT Story by Artur Golebiewski 6) Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 7) VACS for Trade.. by "John Impenna" 8) Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by "Michael Kendix" 9) Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by "Tom Solinski" 10) Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 11) Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by Shane Weier 12) I'll Believe It When I See It by Todd Hayes 13) Re: Dawn Patrol - The Movie by KarrArt@aol.com 14) Nitpicking Walfisch colors/Rudy's Pfalzen by Rory Goodwin 15) Re: Dawn Patrol - The Movie by Shane Weier 16) Re: Hi-Tech Nieuport 24/17 by Rory Goodwin 17) Re: Nitpicking Walfisch colors/Rudy's Pfalzen by "Bob Pearson" 18) Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 19) Re: Hi-Tech Nieuport 24/17 by Witold Kozakiewicz 20) re: Semi-OT Story by "Diego Fernetti" 21) re: Semi-OT Story by "Gaston Graf" 22) Italian Uniforms by "fraser" 23) RE: Semi-OT Story by "Diego Fernetti" 24) RE: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by "Diego Fernetti" 25) RE: Paints? by "Diego Fernetti" 26) Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:58:18 -0500 From: "David R. Crowell" To: Subject: Re: Message-ID: <00e801c16727$70d6df00$c7527fcf@e5gr6> Oh, NO!!!! My daughter is not even two yet, and already she has at least one boy smitten with her. And here I thought this list was about airplanes or something, guess it's about that other sort of "modeling" now..... A little judiciously applied CA glue could be just what junior needs..... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: [WWI] > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > I had an interesting thing happen to me last night. I thought ya'll might > > find it humerous. Unfortunately, it is a real issue at my house. > > > > I have a daughter in her early teenage years. > > Brent, > > You've spoiled my evening! You see, I have two daughters... one is a > teenager and the other will also be one in a 4 more years.... Oh > nooooooooo!!!!! > > My deepest sympathy, my friend. > > > Pedro > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 01:07:32 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: Neil: CA has no shearing strength to speak of. You can pull it and it will never come apart but knock it sideways or drop it, and it will break off. Also, I am convinced that the Kicker makes CA even more likely to break. For this reason, I never use CA unless I have to; e.g. on metal or resin. Further, I do not use it on the .005 inch rigging wire. First, it makes a mess. Second it's weaker for that particular purpose than Elmers White Glue. I learned that from Bill Devins who's built numerous biplanes and won several national championship awards. Michael >From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:42:36 -0500 (EST) > >G'day Everyone; > >Just want to relate a little experience I had whilst working on my Sopwith >Triplane last night. After working up a suitable level of cockpit detail, I >proceeded to assembly all my little bits and pieces and complete the >cockpit. Recently, I bought a bottle of CA kicker (Zap Brand) and thought >"Well this is new, let's give it a go". I found to my joy that parts stuck >almost instantly, thus avoiding problems such as unauthorised >sagging/movement of parts. "Well", you say, "What's wrong with that?" >What happened after that was, when handling the almost completed cockpit >assembly in order to glue the last few bits on, the cockpit proceeded to >deconstruct (just great - my first post-modernist cockpit!). Only three >pieces remained glued to their appropriate places. I noticed afterwards >that the dried CA seemed to be quite brittle. What has gone wrong here? >Have I used too much which has made the CA brittle or is this product not >all its cracked up to be? Also, I was using thin and medium CA's. > >Neil E. >(sorry about the vaguely loopy tone but I've given up smoking again and its >starting to hurt - I could have started again last night!) > > > >_________________________________________________________________________________ >NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended >recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies >immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you >should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the >authority of the Department of Human Services. > >Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual >sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of >the Department. > >Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant >and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been >maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, >interception or interference. > >If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding >this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System >Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au >_________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:53:42 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Albatros D.V/DVa question Message-ID: <200111070103.fA713Xn25519@mercury.rapidnet.net> I think you are refering to 11-6, which has a red nose, tail and a red/yellow band on the fuselage. Lozenge appears to be spanwise, but I'm unsure if it is 4 or 5 colour .. on the profile I have it as 4 colour There is a photo of this aircraft in a line up in the von Richthofen's Flying Circus book by GVW which may help if scanned and blown up Bob ---------- >From: "Michael Kendix" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Albatros D.V/DVa question >Date: Tue, Nov 6, 2001, 7:46 am > > I saw a profile on Bob's CD (sorry, I don't have it at work with me) of > Abatros D.V or D.Va. It was primarily red on the fusealge and tail with a > plain wood and a yellow band on the centre of the fuselage. I have some > questions: > > 1. What type of lozenge was on the upper and lower wing surfaces (4 or 5 > colour)? > > 2. Was the lozenge applied chordwise? > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 01:19:28 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Semi-OT Story Message-ID: Brent: A few observations, if I may:). 1. The reason you are so concerned is that you remember what an obnoxious little horny toad you were at his age. Perhaps he's a more noble person than you were as a teenager - you must admit that theoreticaly, that is possible. 2. You should be grateful that someone decent enough to have an artistic tendancy towards building models is prepared to go through someone like you, just so he can meet your daughter. Clearly, he likes your daughter a lot! 3. If you're any judge of character, it'll take about 2 minutes to find out whether his interest in modeling is genuine, so I'd go for it out of sheer curiousity. My daughter is 4 and I am trying to prepare myself mentally for this stuff. In the zebra world, the suitor has to actually fight his would-be in-laws for his hareem addition. So just be grateful he doesn't crash down the door to your house and beat the tar out of you and your wife to get what he wants. Finally, my father-in-law gave me a hard time for no apparent reason and I've always thought he was a jerk for doing that:)! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:59:23 -0800 (PST) From: Artur Golebiewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Semi-OT Story Message-ID: <20011107015923.1479.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com> --- Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote: > Brent! > > I have considered that he has no father figure etc > and really wants > to build > > models. > You can easily check it! Just ask him to build sth > and you can see, > what is true! If he really wants to be modeller, and > he proves that > he is good boy, you have real gem! Your girl will > want to have > boy-friend for sure, sooner or later, and this this > is better that he > is modeler than gangster - this way you'll have all > under control! > I remember that in my early years of modelling I was > once really > interested in models of one girl's father, and not > in that girl! > Cheers! > G. > > A co na to dziewczyna? ( and what did the girl say to that? ) Artur ( father of two girls, 2 years and 6 months old, and still no "h" :o)_________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:49:26 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: Michael What you say makes sense - I've noticed that CA has little lateral strength. I don't use it for structural assembly such as struts etc. I tend to use for multi-media application (PE etc) and for bit that I want to attach quickly as part of a section assembly process....dont think I'll be using kicker again - maybe I'll experiment with it a bit more before I use it for important things. All the Best Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:53:27 -0500 From: "John Impenna" To: Subject: VACS for Trade.. Message-ID: <003101c16737$609abb60$321da4d8@cable.rcn.com> Hi Folks, I have the following vacs for trade: 1- CramerCraft Bristol M.1.C 1/48 1- CramerCraft Roland D.II 1/48 I will trade both for any one of the following ot kits Hasegawa MC.202 Folgore 1/48 (I REALLY want one of these!!! hint, hint) Hasegawa MC.205 Veltro 1/48 Tamiya A6M5 Zero Type 52 Tamiya Spitfire Mk.1 1/48 Tamiya P-51D 1//48 I really don't know what the CramerCraft kits are worth, but they are really very basic....Not much detail. Let me know!! Regards, John Impenna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 03:14:38 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: Neil: If you use the CA and Kicker to set up the plastic, that's OK provided you add strength with a bit of liquid cement or something. Sometimes, you need the CA to get things into place and then you can work on strengthening it using other types of glue. Here's hoping the Australians trounce the French on Sunday. Not thatI'm anti-French but I always cheer for the underdog and the French are the Champions:)! Michael >From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:59:01 -0500 (EST) > >Michael > >What you say makes sense - I've noticed that CA has little lateral >strength. I don't use it for structural assembly such as struts etc. I tend >to use for multi-media application (PE etc) and for bit that I want to >attach quickly as part of a section assembly process....dont think I'll be >using kicker again - maybe I'll experiment with it a bit more before I use >it for important things. > >All the Best > >Neil E. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________________ >NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended >recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies >immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you >should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the >authority of the Department of Human Services. > >Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual >sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of >the Department. > >Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant >and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been >maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, >interception or interference. > >If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding >this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System >Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au >_________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:18:46 -0600 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: <001c01c1673a$e997fa60$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> Also, I > am convinced that the Kicker makes CA even more likely to break. For this > reason, I never use CA unless I have to; e.g. on metal or resin. There was an article several years ago in one of the R/C flying mags by Smith's industries CA glues. The main points that I took was that the thinner the CA in the first place, the stronger it will be, and that "kicker" can reduce the strength up to 50% of the unaccellerated value HTH Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:01:29 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: Michael; Mixing the CA with other glues seems like a good solution - I use Revell Contacta, a standard polystyrene glue - would this be OK to mix with the CA? You said also you're using white glue for somethings - do you use it for struts and other 'structural' parts at all? Also I would like to see us beat the French - our soccer team is somewhat underrated and unfortunately often underperforms, given the number of players now playing for British and European teams. I would have been happier about the outcome if they had Mark Bosnich in the team and in goal however. Go Socceroos! (ridiculous name isn't it?) All the Best Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:59:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD71D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael says: > If you use the CA and Kicker to set up the plastic, that's OK > provided you > add strength with a bit of liquid cement or something. OTOH I use CyA all the time to attach struts, details and rigging - and will happily demonstrate the strength of the rigging by picking up a model by *a* flying wire. Of course, I use monofilament, I wouldn't suggest demonstrating this with any metal or sprue rigging. > Here's hoping the Australians trounce the French on Sunday. > Not thatI'm > anti-French but I always cheer for the underdog and the > French are the Champions:)! Well Kewell can do no wrong in my eyes after scoring the winner last weekend ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:45:27 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dawn Patrol - The Movie Message-ID: <21.13c23cc0.291a1667@aol.com> In a message dated 11/6/01 2:27:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << That may be so. I have always told my kids that when I was young people couldn't afford to be in colour which is why many early TV programs are in B&W They look at me kinda funny though Shane >> hmmmmm.......does this mean maybe Voss' cowl was really gray? or perhaps light black or dark white? RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 21:38:02 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Nitpicking Walfisch colors/Rudy's Pfalzen Message-ID: <3BE8C8B9.892CF779@earthlink.net> There was a build article in Windsock several years back on the BM (?) Roland C.II. IIRC, it was built as a shark-mouthed specimen in red-brown/green camo (anybody have this?). How is it if the color change to green/mauve came in April, 1917 and the C.II was withdrawn by June (less than 2 months of transition of dwindling # of frontline machines), Mr. Rimell (whom Eduard uses as a primary reference) came up with a 1916 green/mauve Roland-built CIIa sans enlarged fin/rudder...? He notes "some may have worn the new colors", but certainly nearly all in the datafile must be red-brown/green, with perhaps the C.IIas and flight school ac being the most likely in green/mauve... Did Berthold fly a red/blue Pfalz DIIIa with the same markings (winged sword) as his D.III? Can you guess the latest two acquisitions? A sucessful model hunt (locating and getting deals on desired OT kits) is most gratifying... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:30:49 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Dawn Patrol - The Movie Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD71E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> RK > hmmmmm.......does this mean maybe Voss' cowl was really gray? > or perhaps light black or dark white? Undoubtedly. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 21:50:04 -0800 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hi-Tech Nieuport 24/17 Message-ID: <3BE8CB8C.2A5054FD@earthlink.net> Speaking of Hi-Tech, I had a look at their Nie. 24/27 kit and must admit I wasn't impressed. You get an Eduard sprue, HT's sprue containing slightly rough fuselage, struts, tailfeathers etc, and decals for Nungesser's (?) ac for 32+ USD. OTOH, Tom's conversion set (don't know the price or if even currently available) features well-molded fuselage & empennage as well as unusual markings and Bob's art (!) Bashing Tom's conversion with an Eduard Profi-Pack Nie. 17 will almost give you two ac (you will need to find or make a lower set of wings). Todd Hayes wrote: > Hi List, > > Squadron lists the Hi-Tech AEG G.IV as "coming soon". > I'll believe it when I see it! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 21:55:43 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nitpicking Walfisch colors/Rudy's Pfalzen Message-ID: <200111070549.fA75nTn02881@mercury.rapidnet.net> Eduard probably used the early WS article on the Roland which came out about 12 years ago. Or they also subscribe to Dicta Ira Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:58:42 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: OTOH I use CyA all the time to attach struts, details and rigging - and will happily demonstrate the strength of the rigging by picking up a model by *a* flying wire. Of course, I use monofilament, I wouldn't suggest demonstrating this with any metal or sprue rigging. Well Kewell can do no wrong in my eyes after scoring the winner last weekend ;-) Shane Shane; About the only thing I use CA for is rigging with monofilament - that why I bought the kicker to speed the process up a bit. what I've found using it on other things is that its slowed the process down! (CA with kicker that is) Also anyone know if the French team is the complete National Team or not? Vi-Du-Ca! Vi-Du-Ca! :) All the Best Neil E **************************************************************** _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 09:17:46 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hi-Tech Nieuport 24/17 Message-ID: <3BE8EE2A.2010703@bg.am.lodz.pl> Rory Goodwin wrote: > Speaking of Hi-Tech, I had a look at their Nie. 24/27 kit and must admit > I wasn't impressed. You get an Eduard sprue, HT's sprue containing > slightly rough fuselage, struts, tailfeathers etc, and decals for > Nungesser's (?) ac for 32+ USD. OTOH, Tom's conversion set (don't know > the price or if even currently available) features well-molded fuselage > & empennage as well as unusual markings and Bob's art (!) Bashing Tom's > conversion with an Eduard Profi-Pack Nie. 17 will almost give you two ac > (you will need to find or make a lower set of wings). I used Tom's conversion for my Nie.25. That was very easy. I have not seen Hi-tech kit but I must say that Tom's set is something I highly recommend if you want to build late Nieuport. http://www.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze/galeria/kozakiewicz/nieuport25_48/index.html -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 06:58:46 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: re: Semi-OT Story Message-ID: <003301c16772$cb4f7780$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Grzegorz wrote: > I remember that in my early years of modelling I was once really > interested in models of one girl's father, and not in that girl! That's sick, Grzes! :-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:35:29 +0100 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: re: Semi-OT Story Message-ID: > > Grzegorz wrote: > > I remember that in my early years of modelling I was once really > > interested in models of one girl's father, and not in that girl! > > That's sick, Grzes! :-) > D. > Why? Some models you won't find again in a lifetime if you don't build them NOW, but the planet is full of females :oP. GG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:38:05 +0100 From: "fraser" To: Subject: Italian Uniforms Message-ID: <006f01c16778$a8c4f0e0$876814d4@fraserinprague> Diego, Thanks, outbid on the e-bay though - c'est la vie Regards Fraser ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:57:07 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Semi-OT Story Message-ID: <00dc01c1677a$f16b59e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey Brent! Undoubtedly, he's a cunning rat. Even if he REALLY build models in his stinky lair. I'm no father, but I remember making all kind of stunts to get free passage into a girl's house. I learned french. I painted walls. I watched amateur videos of that damned family vacation. I always smiled, always bathed, always shaved and looked acceptable, but oh how I knew my main target. Don't be fooled. He's commited to his target, and believe me, it's not modelling. You can kick his scrawny a** out, but others will come. At least, you can make him sit down, build a model under your supervision and scare him with your hobby knife. Eventually you may get along well, but don't feel to attached to it, you would be forced to eliminate him in a sudden way and he knows that. HTH D. PS: One more thing, don't lend him any reference book. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:04:59 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: <010401c1677c$0b428900$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! Too bad to hear this story! Loose bits in the cockpit is one of the worst curses in a model. I can't sntand them rattling into the fuselage! As for kicker, I've been rigging with nylon thread the night before yesterday and I put in practice the tip given by RK, of making ahhhhhhhhhh near a glued joint to accelerate the hardening of CA glue. It works fine and holds OK. However for the cockpit I prefer white glue to attach small items, as it holds the parts very well even if the surfaces are painted (not the case with CA glue) HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: [WWI] Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) > G'day Everyone; > > Just want to relate a little experience I had whilst working on my Sopwith > Triplane last night. After working up a suitable level of cockpit detail, I > proceeded to assembly all my little bits and pieces and complete the > cockpit. Recently, I bought a bottle of CA kicker (Zap Brand) and thought > "Well this is new, let's give it a go". I found to my joy that parts stuck > almost instantly, thus avoiding problems such as unauthorised > sagging/movement of parts. "Well", you say, "What's wrong with that?" > What happened after that was, when handling the almost completed cockpit > assembly in order to glue the last few bits on, the cockpit proceeded to > deconstruct (just great - my first post-modernist cockpit!). Only three > pieces remained glued to their appropriate places. I noticed afterwards > that the dried CA seemed to be quite brittle. What has gone wrong here? > Have I used too much which has made the CA brittle or is this product not > all its cracked up to be? Also, I was using thin and medium CA's. > > Neil E. > (sorry about the vaguely loopy tone but I've given up smoking again and its > starting to hurt - I could have started again last night!) > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ > NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. > > Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. > > Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. > > If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au > ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:28:59 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Paints? Message-ID: <01a501c1677f$65866aa0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Jon! > As for the HTML setting D, I wish I could fix it but AOL 7.0 has a mind of > it's own and I've talked to Allen and AOL about fixing it but there seems to > be nothing that I can do here, sorry. No worries! D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 11:26:49 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Adventures in Modelling #20442 - (b) Message-ID: Neil: I don't "mix" the 2 sets of glues. Once the CA dries, it may be reinforced with whatever glue is best for that task. CA does not really react to most of these glues. I do not use Elmers white glue for anything but rigging wire glue, gluing windscreens or the occasional bit of filling under cockpit canopies. Michael >From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au > >Mixing the CA with other glues seems like a good solution - I use >Revell >Contacta, a standard polystyrene glue - would this be OK to >mix with the >CA? You said also you're using white glue for somethings -> do you use it >for struts and other 'structural' parts at all? > >Also I would like to see us beat the French - our soccer team is somewhat >underrated and unfortunately often underperforms, given the number of >players now playing for British and European teams. I would have been >happier about the outcome if they had Mark Bosnich in the team and in goal >however. > >Go Socceroos! (ridiculous name isn't it?) > >All the Best > >Neil E. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________________ >NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended >recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies >immediately. 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