WWI Digest 3842 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Pegasus Poll by "David Layton" 2) Re: Pegasus Poll by Ray Boorman 3) Re: Pegasus Poll by Todd Hayes 4) unsubbing for the weekend by "Pedro Soares" 5) Decals Needed by Eric Hotz 6) BM Brisrol M1.C & Pegasus Gun Bus by Witold Kozakiewicz 7) Harleyfords/British Aeroplanes by "Sandy Adam" 8) Re: Pegasus Poll by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 9) Re: WW1 aerobatics by "Diego Fernetti" 10) Re: kinder egg suprises by "Diego Fernetti" 11) Re: WW1 aerobatics by "Diego Fernetti" 12) Re: WW1 aerobatics by Shane Weier 13) Re: Those beautiful MC wheels by "Matt Bittner" 14) Re: Farmans? by "Matt Bittner" 15) Re: Farmans? by "Matt Bittner" 16) Re: Aviation Artist? by "Matt Bittner" 17) Re: Pegasus Poll by "Matt Bittner" 18) Re: Decals Needed by "Tom Solinski" 19) interior lozenge for D.VIII? by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) Re: interior lozenge for D.VIII? by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 21) Re: interior lozenge for D.VIII? by "Tom Solinski" 22) Re: interior lozenge for D.VIII? by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 23) Re: Instrument Faces by "Limon3" 24) Re: Hi-Tech Nieuport by "Limon3" 25) Re: Aviation Artist? by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 26) Re: Pegasus Poll by Todd Hayes 27) Re: Star of David Albatros (again) by Mark Miller 28) RE: Instrument Faces by Mark Miller 29) camel fuselage undersurface by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 30) Re: Aviation Artist? by Mark Miller 31) 虚拟主机 by "zlx" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:01:44 -0500 From: "David Layton" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus Poll Message-ID: <014a01c15eac$db699480$416cd918@DavidLayton> Well, my suggestions reveal a fondness for 2 seaters: 1/48: Tie - Albatros C.X and C.VII, 2nd, DFW C.V, 3rd 'Dorand' A.R.1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad & Merville" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 6:14 PM Subject: [WWI] Pegasus Poll > According to the most recent Pegasus newsletter Chris Gannon is conducting > an online poll to see what his customers would like to see next. Catagories > are: Pegasus 1/72 Anything Goes > Blue Max 1/48 WW1 > Silver Cloud 1/72 & 1/48 Anything Goes > > So get over there and vote for that SE5a in 1/72, A.W. FK8 in 1/48 and a > Silver Cloud 1/48 Handley Page 0/400!!!!! ( well... perhaps an H.P.42 would > be more appropriate to the series) > > To vote goe to: > > pegasuskit@pegasusmodels.com (1/72 ) > bluemaxkit@pegasusmodels.com (1/48 WW1) > silvercloudkit@pegasusmodels.com (Silver Cloud 1/72 & 1/48) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 23:13:06 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: Re: Pegasus Poll Message-ID: <20011027061910.OWCH14333.priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Pegasus Short 184 imho. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:09:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pegasus Poll Message-ID: <20011027070920.17383.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> I suggested for Blue Max: Vickers FB.5 "Gunbus" Sopwith Tabloid Halberstadt D.II Halberstadt C.V AW FK.8 For Silver Cloud: Any WW1 French 2-seater and WW2 Russian in 1:48. Todd --- David Layton wrote: > Well, my suggestions reveal a fondness for 2 > seaters: > > 1/48: Tie - Albatros C.X and C.VII, 2nd, DFW C.V, > 3rd 'Dorand' A.R.1 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad & Merville" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 6:14 PM > Subject: [WWI] Pegasus Poll > > > > According to the most recent Pegasus newsletter > Chris Gannon is conducting > > an online poll to see what his customers would > like to see next. > Catagories > > are: Pegasus 1/72 Anything Goes > > Blue Max 1/48 WW1 > > Silver Cloud 1/72 & > 1/48 Anything Goes > > > > So get over there and vote for that SE5a in 1/72, > A.W. FK8 in 1/48 and a > > Silver Cloud 1/48 Handley Page 0/400!!!!! ( > well... perhaps an H.P.42 > would > > be more appropriate to the series) > > > > To vote goe to: > > > > pegasuskit@pegasusmodels.com (1/72 ) > > bluemaxkit@pegasusmodels.com (1/48 WW1) > > silvercloudkit@pegasusmodels.com (Silver Cloud > 1/72 & 1/48) > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:15:39 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: unsubbing for the weekend Message-ID: <002901c15eb7$2e4b56c0$2d7216d5@netcabo.pt> Gang, I'll be off to Ponta Delgada in the Azores till monday night, so I'm unsubscribing for the weekend. See you all in a few days Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:02:21 -0700 From: Eric Hotz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Decals Needed Message-ID: <3BDA781A.6B316824@direct.ca> Hello, A friend of mine needs a set of decals made for a model kit he bought on E-Bay. This is not a WWI model kit (it's from that other big war that came later. You know, WWI part II). The scale of this kit is 1/6th. Can anyone point me to someone who makes decals to order. I can provide all the artwork required as Adobe Illustrator EPS or AI files to scale. Take care... -- --- Eric Hotz +-----------------------------------------------------------+ HOTZ ARTWORKS-ILLUSTRATION & DESIGN http://www.erichotz.com Phone & FAX: (604) 619-6925 / e-mail: mailto:erichotz@direct.ca Address: Suite 110-19567 Fraser Hwy, Surrey, BC V3S 9A4 Canada Larry Leadhead, "The Gamer's Comic Strip": http://www.larryleadhead.org +-----------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:26:51 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: BM Brisrol M1.C & Pegasus Gun Bus Message-ID: <3BDA99FB.1050104@bg.am.lodz.pl> New w kits from pegasus and BM look at: http://www.pegasusmodels.com/news.html http://www.pegasusmodels.com/newspeg.html Look at details shots of Bristol... That white metal parts are very good. I have Spin Bristol and it is good that I do not have to think which one would be better. More interesting for me is Gunbus, and I'm quite sure that I will order it sooner or later. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:41:12 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Harleyfords/British Aeroplanes Message-ID: <006201c15edc$64bcdec0$05e8b094@sandyada> This has been covered in the past, but may be worth reiterating for newer members - There are several OT Harleyford / Harborough books all of the same size and format. The best known are Fighter Aircraft, Bomber Aircraft and Marine Aircraft..... of the First World War, but these were preceded in the 50s, by a general title "Aircraft of the First World War" This covers all types of aeroplane and some are better , some worse than the later trio. eg there are one or two pictures of a model rather than a real aircraft, but there are one or two cracking pics not seen later - the "Werner Voss" Pfalz in RFC hands for example. There are also the Air Aces, Sopwith and Richthofen titles as well as the Fokker, Markings and Camouflage books that include some WWI content. Less well known is the Harleyford booklet from the late 40s from which the WWI markings stuff came. This is half the usual size but has lotsof colour. It was the first publication by Owen Thetford and I bought a copy with his bookplate mark from his estate. Even less well known are three titles from the mid 40s that started the whole Harleyford style. These are "The Book of Bristol Aircraft", "The Book of Westland Aircraft" and "The Book of Miles Aircraft". While the last is of no interest, the Bristol and Westland aircraft devote about half their pages to WWI or earlier machines. I have been using the Bristol book extensively to decipher the nightmare rigging on the 1/48 Boxkite I have just finished. These books are still unique sources for much information. It is sobering to think that when these were written, most of the original WWI survivors, test pilots, designers and builders were still alive and available as reference sources!!!!! If you want good plans of a Bristol Coanda or a Scout type F - this is your source. I have been lucky in finding copies of most of these books and have sold a few extras on via ebay or direct to other list members. At the moment I have a spare copy of Bruce's British Aeroplanes (Owen Thetford's) but I'd rather keep it, but I do know where can be found some of the "Book of..." titles. Uncle Sniffy used to let us all know when he turned up titles like these but I don't think Graham subscribes any more? I haven't looked at ABE for a while, but run a search on "Book of Aircraft" and you'll probably turn up a Bristol or Westland copy. I wouldn't be without any one of the titles mentioned above. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:00:35 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus Poll Message-ID: > Well, my suggestions reveal a fondness for 2 seaters: > 1/48: Tie - Albatros C.X and C.VII, 2nd, DFW C.V, 3rd 'Dorand' A.R.1 Yes! 1/48 Albatoss C.X, C.XV, J.1, DFW C.V, LVG C.V, Salmson 2A2, Albatros J.I Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:22:49 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WW1 aerobatics Message-ID: Lee wrote: >Now they >no longer even teach spins, the falling leaf or from what I have been told >"slow >flight". (From what I have heard. Most planes are now considered >"spin-proof".) What? Sheer madness!!!!!!!!! It's a suicide not to learn how to deal on slow flight, tailspins and speed loss... I certainly wouldn't be soloing nytime withut learning how to recover very well from these "corners" of the flight envelope. Spin -proof airplanes? Gee, there was also an "Invincible Armada" before, right? :-) D. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:25:22 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: kinder egg suprises Message-ID: Mike wrote: >Sitting atop my monitor I have -long list deleted- wow! I must start buying more kinder eggs to keep up with the fletchers! D. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:32:47 +0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WW1 aerobatics Message-ID: Shane! >Depends when you're talking about. By the time Cecil Lewis learned to fly >everyone was doing it (see Sagitarrius Rising) Right, but generally speaking, brits by the time of Cecil L. had better and more improved airplanes than the fokkers eindeckers that the germans had by the time Immelman invented his trick. After all, it wasn't Pegoud who made the first looping not too long before the war in a monoplane? I'm not counting the drunk russian first since he was unable to make any difference between up and down when he looped his plane. D. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:40:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: WW1 aerobatics Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD6B7@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Diego, > >Depends when you're talking about. By the time Cecil Lewis > learned to fly > >everyone was doing it (see Sagitarrius Rising) > > Right, but generally speaking, brits by the time of Cecil L. > had better and > more improved airplanes than the fokkers eindeckers that the > germans had by > the time Immelman invented his trick. Of course. But I was responding to the suggestion by someone in the thread that any such acrobatics was done *only* be a few such *experts* I don't have Saggitarius handy, but IIRC the aircraft he loops first was a Bristol Scout or similar - hardly a particularly advanced aircraft even compared with the E.III Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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It's a little spendy at $47 (Rollmodels price). > Also, it looks to be a copy of the Blue Rider kit. Just my two cents, I would rather get the Omega one with Omega's excellent track record, and HR's questionable one. IMHO... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:18:00 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Farmans? Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 23:18:06 -0400 (EDT), Michael Kendix wrote: > The Omega kit is decent but I think the resin struts should be replaced > especially with those large resin wings to which Matt Bittner referred. That I definitely agree with. Maybe even going all the way through the wings with the struts. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:22:14 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Aviation Artist? Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:19:24 -0400 (EDT), VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com wrote: > Bob, you are right they are beautiful to the max but are not available on > T-shirts at this time. Couldn't you take those ALPS-generated prints and get them put on iron-on "stuff"? Just thinking, here... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:24:18 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Pegasus Poll Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 02:00:21 -0400 (EDT), David Layton wrote: > 1/48: Tie - Albatros C.X and C.VII, 2nd, DFW C.V, 3rd 'Dorand' A.R.1 Egads! The size of the AR's in 1/48th... Goodness. FWIW, my Pegasus want was the Breguet 5. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 10:56:17 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Decals Needed Message-ID: <008e01c15eff$ea2eeda0$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> > A friend of mine needs a set of decals made for a model kit he bought on E-Bay. This is not a WWI > model kit (it's from that other big war that came later. You know, WWI part II). The scale of this > kit is 1/6th. Can anyone point me to someone who makes decals to order. I can provide all the artwork > required as Adobe Illustrator EPS or AI files to scale. > > Eric, go to Tower Hobbies at http://www.towerhobbies.com/ Do a search for "Major Decals". They make a fine line of national markings of a lot of countries for both OT and ot aircraft in various large scales. Sheets come in both water slide and pressure sensitive, and they are only around $10 USD. HTH Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 17:25:19 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: interior lozenge for D.VIII? Message-ID: <000701c15efb$97ea4700$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi list! I'm modelling Eduard Fok. E.V/D.VIII, Sachsenberg's yellow checkered plane. What was interior? Lozenge? That means that whole plane was lozenge covered and later painted yellow and black. Were any late Fokkers not lozenged in factory? At first I decided to use lozenge for interior. I took Czech MPD lower http://www.internetmodeler.com/2000/jan2000/new-releases/mpd_lower.jp g Mine are even less bright than pictured. What do you think about this choice? I think that int-lozenge should be pale. Am I right? Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:49:59 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: interior lozenge for D.VIII? Message-ID: In a message dated 27/10/01 17:15:28 GMT Daylight Time, grzem@yahoo.com writes: << I think that int-lozenge should be pale. Am I right? Grzegorz >> If we are reeeeeally going to be anal about this then it should also be reversed. How about scanning it in and printing a toned down reversed verion in thin paper and sticking that inside. just a thought Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:01:08 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: interior lozenge for D.VIII? Message-ID: <001401c15f08$f9635be0$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> I believe if you hunt around the site, there are some pictures of a yet to be finished 1:1 D-VIII out in the sunshine. The loz color inside is almost as bold as the stuff on the outside. When you dope a color on the outer surface of linnen, the linnen remains light colored on the back side, with just a little of the color bleeding through at the holes. Loz was printed fabric. On some small samples I have, the color on the back side is as strong as the front side with the exception that there are more white threads showing. I'd opt for applying the standard decal then shoot a very light coat of white or light tan over it. MTC Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:35:51 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: interior lozenge for D.VIII? Message-ID: <001901c15f05$72422fe0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Thanks Peter and Tom! I'm not THAT anal - to care about reversing lozenge :-) I knew it, but I don't want to complicate things... > Loz was printed fabric. On some small samples I have, the color on the back > side is as strong as the front side with the exception that there are more > white threads showing. OK, but what happens when you PAINT lozenge fabric with solid yellow and black on the outer side? G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 10:32:30 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Instrument Faces Message-ID: <008e01c15f0d$5be607a0$a93b1c3f@i7e2z6> Sorry to come in late on this thread, but have you tried copying on a clear acetate sheet? I do this all the time to make overhead projection slides, and some of the sheets are quite thin. Maybe this would work better than paper Gabe ----- Original Message ----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:56 AM Subject: [WWI] Instrument Faces > Gregory! > I haven't tried, but maybe glossy b&w photo print can make it? > Gregory > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 10:41:28 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Hi-Tech Nieuport Message-ID: <00db01c15f0e$9c70bee0$a93b1c3f@i7e2z6> I have one that I've been working on for a while, it has a partial Eduard N.17 kit with a 24/27 fuselage and other bits to make up the 24/27. Gabe ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:25 PM Subject: [WWI] Hi-Tech Nieuport > Anyone know anything about this kit? (aside from the fact that the > photo is of a 17bis with 24 wings...) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1655189142 > > Mike F. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:09:54 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aviation Artist? Message-ID: <152.3187ee9.290c5272@aol.com> --part1_152.3187ee9.290c5272_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/27/2001 9:23:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: > Couldn't you take those ALPS-generated prints and get them put on > iron-on "stuff"? Just thinking, here... > > > Matt Bittner > Gee's Matt, you must be reading my mind, I went out today and picked up a package of Iron on transfers for Inkjet printers. I'll let you know how they turn out. Now what scale, Hmmmmm? Best regards, Jon --part1_152.3187ee9.290c5272_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/27/2001 9:23:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes:


Couldn't you take those ALPS-generated prints and get them put on
iron-on "stuff"?  Just thinking, here...


Matt Bittner


Gee's Matt, you must be reading my mind, I went out today and picked up a package of Iron on transfers for Inkjet printers. I'll let you know how they turn out. Now what scale, Hmmmmm?
 Best regards,
Jon --part1_152.3187ee9.290c5272_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:06:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pegasus Poll Message-ID: <20011027200638.54051.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> Tomasz, Jager is doing a 1:48 Albatros C.X and Albatros J.I. The J.I is next. Todd --- Tomasz Gronczewski wrote: > > Well, my suggestions reveal a fondness for 2 > seaters: > > 1/48: Tie - Albatros C.X and C.VII, 2nd, DFW C.V, > 3rd 'Dorand' A.R.1 > > Yes! 1/48 Albatoss C.X, C.XV, J.1, DFW C.V, LVG C.V, > Salmson 2A2, Albatros > J.I > > Tomasz > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 13:23:16 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Star of David Albatros (again) Message-ID: <20011027202316.28500.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Neil I agree the lines look pretty thick At least, thicker than what I got. But when I looked at that photo and didn't get the feeling that I could tell exactly how *thick* the lines were. I be interested in your interpretation. Anyway could you generate artwork which would clarify the appearence of this symbol. or better yet - I have done artwork for this scheme already - I could send you my interpretation and you could "mark it up" My original is in CorelDraw but I could export it to almost any vector or raster based format. just a thought :-) Mark Miller On Fri, 26 October 2001, "Neil Eddy" wrote: > > Hi Everyone; > > Just coming out of weekend Lurk to follow up on yesterday's thread re the > Star of David Albatros. I took my print out of this photograph last night, > scanned it, and then enlarged the section that showed the Star of David and > IMHO I would say the answer is that the width of the triangles is thicker > rather than thinner. You can see the black triangle relatively clearly and > it seems to be thicker than represented in the Superstrike decal. This does > not necesarily translate that the Eduard decal is 100% correct but does > point towards this depiction as probably being more correct. I have also > attempted to take into account photographic limitations and perceptual > differences in my assessment. > > I dont wish to start any flame wars or anything, I was just curious as to > which was more correct (in my opinion both look striking). If anyone wants a > copy of the scan, let me know off list and I'll send one to you. > > All the Best > > Neil E. Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 13:50:58 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Instrument Faces Message-ID: <20011027205058.21350.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Fri, 26 October 2001, Shane Weier wrote: When I made my Biff, I drew the instruments on paper, then reduced them using a photocopier which printed on to overhead projector film > Shane Photocopies have the advantage of being done opticaly - You can get a perfect reduction - ink jet or buuble jet printers have a finite # of dots per inch. When you get down to fine details you run into resolution problems. Transparent media is also problematic with these types of printers. Large fields of color tend to be blotchy. I'm not sure how well they deal with detail At work, we used a dye sublimation printer for transparencies(usualy for view graph presentations) Near photographic images - but only 300 dpi. Now we only use LCD projectors which only have a resolution of 1024 X 758 (I think) Another thing we don't use anymore is STAT cameras, or photocopiers (as above). We have a camera downstairs which looks like a typical bellows type camera - but its about 6 feet high X 12 feet long. I call it the "land of the giants" camera. They call it a "Brownie" camera Makes beautiful "E" size stats and very small reductions. Only problem is I nobody has used it in about 5 years - I think they are going to scrap it in the next couple of months. Too bad - the thing should be in a museum. In any case Photocopiers are definitly the way to go. Has the best resolution and is durable and waterproof. Photocopies are also known as STATs (I don't know what that stands for) also known as a "film Positive". Mark Miller Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:04:29 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: camel fuselage undersurface Message-ID: <007e01c15f22$9769baa0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi! Childish question, but I don't know the answer: What was typicall colour of Camel's fuselage undersurfaces? CDL or PC-10? G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 14:03:11 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aviation Artist? Message-ID: <20011027210311.9759.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> I think these drawings were also on sale in the gift shop at Rhinebeck. At least I rember seeing four nice pencil drawing of WW1 AC for sale. I'm sorry but I don't remember the name of the artist. They are shutdown till next spring. I'm not sure if Rhinebeck sells through the internet but they got a web site. Might be worth a try. Mark Miller On Fri, 26 October 2001, "Brad & Merville" wrote: > > Jon > > I bought a T-shirt with his RE8 on it from an internet company called White Hawk Aviation Art a couple of years ago. I phoned the owner (in Virginia or North Carolina?.... somewhere thereabouts.) and he told me that Joe DeMarco was a neighbour of his. He said he was getting on but that he was still drawing. White Hawk carried a full line of his WW1 pencil drawings on T-shirts, tote bags and mouse pads. I'll see if I've still got > the address saved someplace. By the way, complete sets (four sets of four > prints) of his WW1 series are still available at a very reasonable price > from the USAF Museum gift shop in Dayton. > > Brad Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:30:52 +0800 From: "zlx" To: <#field0#> Subject: 虚拟主机 Message-ID: <200110272143.RAA93401@mustang.sr.unh.edu> 中国民网(中国民主建国会蚌埠市委主办) 011012110 1. 260元＝1年国际域名＋40mb＋20个email(支持cgi)； 2. 390元＝2年国际域名＋40mb＋20个email(支持cgi)； 2. 340元＝1年国际域名＋100mb＋30个email(asp、php3/php4)； 2. 620元＝2年国际域名＋100mb＋30个email(asp、php3/php4)； 3. 450元=1年国际域名+150mb+40个email(asp、access、php4) 4. 850元=2年国际域名+200mb+email不限(asp、access、php4) 5. 3500元/1年型,2G空间，存放45个站点,50个email，自助管理 中国民网(www.cndem.net)虚拟主机，速度快、价格低，北京电信服务器， 每天不到五角钱，拥有域名、网站、邮局，特别适用于中小企业、个人建立网上之家 ， 请测试： Ftp的参数如下：host address:www.cndem.com username: test password: 1234 浏览： 在地址栏键入 http://www.cndem.com/您上传的文件名或目录名 注：不要上传有价值资料，任何人都有删除的权利。 ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3842 **********************