WWI Digest 3835 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Star of David Albatros by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 2) Re: PC10 + PC-12 by "cameron rile" 3) Re: Model Photos for Gallery by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 4) Re: PC10 + PC-12 by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 5) Re: Model Photos for Gallery by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 6) Re: PC10 + PC-12 by "Michael Kendix" 7) A few days away by Russell W Niles 8) Re: Star of David Albatros by Mark Miller 9) Re: Digital images was Re: RE: scanners was Re: Cookups by Mark Miller 10) Re: PC10 + PC-12 by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 11) Re: Star of David Albatros by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 12) RE: PC10 + PC-12 by Shane Weier 13) Re: PC10 + PC-12- Hey! BOB PEARSON by "Michael Kendix" 14) Re: german rib tapes by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 15) Re: german rib tapes by Shane Weier 16) Re: cook-up query by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 17) Re: PC10 + PC-12- Hey! BOB PEARSON by Ray Boorman 18) Re: Harleyford Books by "Lee M." 19) Re: Harleyford Books by "Lee M." 20) Re: Harleyford Books by PolTexCW@aol.com 21) Fwd: Master Club Voisin/News: the problem Re: Order by "Todd Hayes" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:17:34 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Star of David Albatros Message-ID: Sanjeev; this is certainly not stupid; I have the Squadron DVII book and will have a look tonight after work. If I recall its different to the Jasta 12 design...but its worth a look : ) Thanks All the Best Neil E. This is probably a totally stupid suggestion.... Squadron "Fokker DVIIs in action" and Windsock Fok DVII anthology-1, between them have atleast one photo, a colour profile and a drawing of a Fokker DVII with the star of David. I dont remember if this is a jasta 12 craft. However, if it is, and if the jasta converted to DVIIs from the Albatrosen, then is it not quite possible that the pilot retained almost identical markings over the conversion. If so, the DVII could be a useful supplementary reference. regards SSH _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:25:36 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PC10 + PC-12 Message-ID: <1A1391178E3EF6247B4DD6334E7CDA8E@cameron.prontomail.com> Neil, >Whilst he also lists mixing formulas for PC-12 >and PC-10, what colours and ratios do >people commonly use for the two PCs? After the last list discussion on PC12 and since my 'to-do' queue has a Martinsyde G100 in it, I tried mixing my own using what had been discussed as a yardstick with a mix of red, PC10 and grey. It ended up coming out exactly the same colour as Military Brown. Nothing historical or accurate, just what happened. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:27:01 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Model Photos for Gallery Message-ID: Mike; Thanks for the kind comments. The decals I used were of course, the Eduard ones. I've got a print out of the Jasta 12 line up photograph that I will try to scan tonight and muck about with to try to get a better look. Also we could also ask Eduard what their references were for the decal...whether there's any definitive answers regarding the star I don't know - could end being Dicta Ira maybe...I've seen the Albie in the Gallery section (was that yours?) and I think both look striking. All the Best Neil E. I did this plane awhile ago, before the Eduard kit & decals came out/ and the decals I used (Superscale, I think) also had the lines thinner....fwiw hth Mike Muth _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:43:56 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PC10 + PC-12 Message-ID: Cam; Its funny, I'm getting answers before my own posting has bounded back to me...sometimes not everything comes through... This is interesting Cam, he lists his as being a mix of Humbrol 113 rust and Humbrol 60 scarlet (equivalent to a deleted authentic) for his PC-12. What type of paints were you using? Military Brown - is that Humbrol or another make? - Sorry if I sound a bit thick but I;m at work and don't have any references with me. All the Best Neil E. tried mixing my own using what had been discussed as a yardstick with a mix of red, PC10 and grey. It ended up coming out exactly the same colour as Military Brown. Nothing historical or accurate, just what happened. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. 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If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:48:00 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Model Photos for Gallery Message-ID: Diego....Ahhh....the smiling assassin with the clicking finger chopper behind his back! : )) Seriously, what I like about this hobby is the way I feel myself getting better with every kit I do as incorporate new learnings into my skills. Sometimes I enjoy the learning as much as the building! All the Best Neil E. Nice sometimes But always cute! D. ----- Original Message ----- > _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. 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Michael >From: "cameron rile" >Neil, > > >Whilst he also lists mixing formulas for PC-12 > >and PC-10, what colours and ratios do > >people commonly use for the two PCs? > >After the last list discussion on PC12 and since >my 'to-do' queue has a Martinsyde G100 in it, I >tried mixing my own using what had been discussed >as a yardstick with a mix of red, PC10 and grey. >It ended up coming out exactly the same colour as >Military Brown. Nothing historical or accurate, >just what happened. > > >cam > >______________________________________________________________ >Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:51:34 -0700 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: A few days away Message-ID: <20011025.185238.-689281.2.r_niles1@juno.com> Hi guys and gals I'll be unsubbing for a week or so, my Dad and I are joining a tour group to go from here to LA via air and from LA to Seattle via the Coast Starlight. For those of you who are not rail afficiandos, the Starlight was (back in the golden days of rail travel) the ultimate Southern Pacific passenger train that ran from Los Angeles up the coast, around thru Sacrametno and then up the valley past Mt Shasta and on to Seattle. Pops 84 now and he and my brother and I do as much with him as we can. You just never know. Anyway, I'll be gone a week or so, so ya'll play nice. Russ Niles Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 2001 19:19:06 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Star of David Albatros Message-ID: <20011026021906.27505.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> I checked the Sqaudron Fokker DVII in action book and couldn't find any star of david markings. If someone finds it could they post the pg# I don't have the widsock book However I did look in the Squadron Alabatros Fighters in Action book and found a photo on pg12 whith a long line of jasta 12 Albatrosen. The Star of David marking is on the 7th Ac from the bottom. It's small and a little blurry but I think the lines look *thin* Sorry Neil - but if it makes you feel any better they look thicker than what I got :-) Of course - it's possible that this marking was also done with *thick* lines at some other time. as long as I'm confessing errors - Dan-San pointed out that the white areas on my maltese crosses are too thin - that one hurt :-( that damn cross is everywhere I don't think I have the patience to go back and re-do all the existing renderings, but I can make sure it's fixed on anything I do in the future. God bless him for bringing it to my attention Mark On Thu, 25 October 2001, Sanjeev Hirve wrote: Squadron "Fokker DVIIs in action" and Windsock Fok DVII anthology-1, between them have atleast one photo, a colour profile and a drawing of a Fokker DVII with the star of David. I dont remember if this is a jasta 12 craft. However, if it is, and if the jasta converted to DVIIs from the Albatrosen, then is it not quite possible that the pilot retained almost identical markings over the conversion. If so, the DVII could be a useful supplementary reference. > regards > SSH Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 2001 19:35:53 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Digital images was Re: RE: scanners was Re: Cookups Message-ID: <20011026023553.28675.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 25 October 2001, "Pedro Soares" wrote: > Minolta already has a 7 megapixel camera. > > BTW does anybody know what type of files are used for those perfect print out samples that are used as promos for the inkjet printers? you know the ones that say "original print out of a photo done with HP or Epson XPTO printer? Pedro I doubt file *type* is important. As long as the color depth is set high enough it shouldn't matter. I think they get those results by choosing an appropriate image and precisly correcting the color to get optimal output on their particular printer. > They look great but all the digital cameras I've seen can't produce those results. well.. You'll probably not be able to reproduce the quality of manufacturers samples. But keep in mind that almost all digital photos need to be corrected. If you have good image edit software you can usualy make them look pretty darn good. Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:39:44 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PC10 + PC-12 Message-ID: Michael; everything I've heard about Misterkit paints sounds good - I think I will order some soon...I most certainly need them for many different projects...They were very helpful when I e-mailed them a while back. Time to check the bank balance I think. : ) So the RNAS didn't use PC-12 extensively. This means I might get away with PC-10. The reason I'm asking all this is because I'm going to do a Naval 1 Triplane - I recall Naval 8 were PC-10 so the likelihood is that Naval 1 had the same colour scheme....mmm, more colourful and eye-catching British aircraft! : 0 Regards Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. 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I'll have a look at the photo tonight as I said in an earlier post - I'm going to try to enhance it somehow...It still might be hard to make out though given the limits of Arc Photo Studio - thinking about it off the top of my head - the answers re thickness may well lie in between 'thick' and 'thin' by the sound of it! Regards Neil E However I did look in the Squadron Alabatros Fighters in Action book and found a photo on pg12 whith a long line of jasta 12 Albatrosen. The Star of David marking is on the 7th Ac from the bottom. It's small and a little blurry but I think the lines look *thin* _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. 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If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:56:00 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: PC10 + PC-12 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD6AC@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil, > > what colours and > ratios do people commonly use for the two PCs? PC.10 - FS34087 Any brand, but at the moment Modelmaster or Gunze. And I add a bit of brown, or a bit of white to get a little variety in the finish PC.12 - Not used any for 10 years and that exceeds the scope of my long term memory. However, I do recall mixing a colour using RK's method - bita this, bita that. Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 02:56:30 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PC10 + PC-12- Hey! BOB PEARSON Message-ID: Neil: Hold on a bit! I think that I recall Sopwith Triplanes from the RNAS had some in PC-12. I have Bob Pearson's CD of profiles but it's difficult for me to tell which are PC-12. Michael >From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au >Michael; > >everything I've heard about Misterkit paints sounds good - I think I will >order some soon...I most certainly need them for many different >projects...They were very helpful when I e-mailed them a while back. Time >to check the bank balance I think. : ) > >So the RNAS didn't use PC-12 extensively. This means I might get away with >PC-10. The reason I'm asking all this is because I'm going to do a Naval >1 Triplane - I recall Naval 8 were PC-10 so the likelihood is that Naval 1 >had the same colour scheme....mmm, more colourful and eye-catching British >aircraft! : 0 > >Regards >Neil E. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________________ >NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended >recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies >immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you >should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the >authority of the Department of Human Services. > >Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual >sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of >the Department. > >Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant >and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been >maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, >interception or interference. > >If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding >this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System >Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au >_________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:57:21 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: german rib tapes Message-ID: <149.39d012c.290a2b11@aol.com> --part1_149.39d012c.290a2b11_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wondering, has anyone tried using a rotary cutter to cut rib tapes from a sheet of painted decal paper? Best regards, Jon --part1_149.39d012c.290a2b11_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wondering, has anyone tried using a rotary cutter to cut rib tapes from a sheet of painted decal paper?

Best regards,
Jon
--part1_149.39d012c.290a2b11_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:06:41 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: german rib tapes Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD6AD@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Pedro says: > The important thing is not to cut on the painted surface but > from the rear of the backing paper. Michael says: > The "trick" is NOT to use the point of the blade > because that will give you a curly, cracked and not very useful strip. One of the things I most love about modelling, is the way that a wide variety of often very different people can produce equally beautiful results using utterly different techniques. Now me, I *always* use the point of the knife to cut tapes and *never* cut from the back of the sheet - and I think I get perfectly okay results. As they say "Different strokes....." Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:11:28 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: cook-up query Message-ID: <3BD8D460.83BE4ED7@tac.com.au> Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au wrote: > > G'day Shane; > > I've got a Eduard 1/48 Sopwith Triplane in the cupboard and I thought I > would do Robert Little's N5493 "Blymp". I don't think anyone is doing this > aircraft last time I looked on the old site (some time ago though). If > someone else is doing it, I can always find another subject. Also what is > the actual deadline for the Cook-Up? Hi Neil, Technically it finished in June, but due to various factors eg: taking it over from Cam, that bloody web host fiasco, overseas trip etc, etc, it may be an idea as someone suggested extending it for a few more months. What does everybody think? Plus there's no-one as far as I can see building Little's Triplane, so you're it matey ;-ž. Shane & Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:07:01 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: Re: PC10 + PC-12- Hey! BOB PEARSON Message-ID: <20011026031300.YZNO14333.priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Hey Bob, Michael is right. PC12 was specified on factory drawings as part of the doping practice. Actually 5 coats cellon dope and two of PC12. In fact it was common practice on Sopwith Drawings to specify both PC10 and PC12 and use whatever was in supply at the time. The drawing in question is in the RAF museum. Also there was a model of a triplane built at the time by a member of one of the triplane Squadrons its also in the RAF museum and is coloured in PC12. References Datafile 22 Sopwith Triplane and RNAS 1912-1918 by Brad King On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:59:13 -0400 (EDT), Michael Kendix wrote: >Neil: > >Hold on a bit! I think that I recall Sopwith Triplanes from the RNAS >had >some in PC-12. I have Bob Pearson's CD of profiles but it's >difficult for >me to tell which are PC-12. > >Michael >>From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au >>Michael; >> >>everything I've heard about Misterkit paints sounds good - I think >>I will >>order some soon...I most certainly need them for many different >>projects...They were very helpful when I e-mailed them a while >>back. Time >>to check the bank balance I think. : ) >> >>So the RNAS didn't use PC-12 extensively. This means I might get >>away with >>PC-10. The reason I'm asking all this is because I'm going to do a >> Naval >>1 Triplane - I recall Naval 8 were PC-10 so the likelihood is that >>Naval 1 >>had the same colour scheme....mmm, more colourful and eye-catching >>British >>aircraft! : 0 >> >>Regards >>Neil E. >> >> >> >>____________________________________________________________________ >>_____________ >>NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the >>intended >>recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all >>copies >>immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this >>communication, you >>should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without >>the >>authority of the Department of Human Services. >> >>Any views expressed in this communication are those of the >>individual >>sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the >>views of >>the Department. >> >>Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, >>warrant >>and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been >>maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, >>interception or interference. >> >>If you have received this email in error or have other concerns >>regarding >>this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services >>System >>Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au >>____________________________________________________________________ >>_____________ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:22:26 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Harleyford Books Message-ID: <3BD8D6F2.A47AEF06@x25.net> harleyford titles are Fighter aircarft otf the 1914-1918 War, Air Aces of the 1941-1918 War , and, Reconnaissance Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War. Two others are Richthofen and the Flying Circus, and, Sopwith, The man and his Aircraft. Do not know about the one you mentioned but Harleyford in addition to being among the first are very good, but, not perfect. Which one is? Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au wrote: > Hi All; > > I've been thinking about buying Harleyford's "Fighters of the First World > War" ( I think this is the exact title - but could be wrong) and was > looking on ABE and noticed another title by Harleyford which seems similar > - "Aircraft of the First World War". The attached blurbs made the two books > seem similar - "Aircraft" has more pages however. Is anyone able to make a > comparison of these two books - How similar are they? How are they > different? > > All the Best > > Neil E. > > _________________________________________________________________________________ > NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. > > Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. > > Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. > > If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au > _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:24:49 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Harleyford Books Message-ID: <3BD8D781.B9EB9EA4@x25.net> Almost forgot AERO Publishers in California did some reprints of Harleyford and may have changed a title or two. Don't know Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au wrote: > Hi All; > > I've been thinking about buying Harleyford's "Fighters of the First World > War" ( I think this is the exact title - but could be wrong) and was > looking on ABE and noticed another title by Harleyford which seems similar > - "Aircraft of the First World War". The attached blurbs made the two books > seem similar - "Aircraft" has more pages however. Is anyone able to make a > comparison of these two books - How similar are they? How are they > different? > > All the Best > > Neil E. > > _________________________________________________________________________________ > NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. > > Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. > > Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. > > If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au > _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:25:35 EDT From: PolTexCW@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Harleyford Books Message-ID: <3d.13663668.290a31af@aol.com> In a message dated 10/25/1 11:19:12 PM, lemen@x25.net writes: << harleyford titles are Fighter aircarft otf the 1914-1918 War, Air Aces of the 1941-1918 War , and, Reconnaissance Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War. >> There was, indeed, an _Aircraft f the 1914-1918 War_, I bought around 1958 - still have it packed up somewhere. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:31:37 From: "Todd Hayes" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Fwd: Master Club Voisin/News: the problem Re: Order Message-ID: >From: "Webstore" >To: "Todd Hayes" >Subject: Re: Order >Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:40:12 +0400 > >Dear Todd. >The problem is that Master-model is still unfinished. >We are gathering orders and it is very! possible that we shall pay (~$6000) >for the master-model by ourselves. >In fact, Voisin model still does not exist. But orders are coming and we do >hope, they won't stop. >Sorry for misleading. > >Sincerely, >Andrey Prozorovskiy. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Todd Hayes" >To: >Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:09 PM >Subject: Re: Order > > > > Dear SMR, > > > > So the Voisin kit actually exists? I've tried for over a year to get >one, > > but without success. If you can get me this kit, you'll have a loyal > > customer for life. > > > > Todd Hayes > > > > > > >From: sales@hobbym.net > > >To: ta_hayes@hotmail.com > > >Subject: Order > > >Date: 25 Oct 2001 05:31:28 -0000 > > > > > >MCL006|65.00|Voisin LAS|1|0|| > > >User Details > > >e-mail: ta_hayes@hotmail.com > > >Name: Todd > > >LName: Hayes > > >Country: USA > > >index: 52601 > > >Area: Iowa > > >City: Burlington > > >StrAddr: 2910 Market > > >Dop: > > >user id: id3bd79f97a2690 > > >Order type: sor > > >Final amount:79 > > >Delivery method: Air > > >USER_IP_ADDRESS: 63.161.99.107 > > >Please wait while we confirm your order and then we tell you how to >proceed > > >with your order. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3835 **********************