WWI Digest 3825 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: cook-up query by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 2) Re: Albatros Cookup ?? by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 3) RE: Cookups by Witold Kozakiewicz 4) RE: Cookups by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 5) RE: Having fun with wood by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 6) Fokker D.VII assumptions by "Matt Bittner" 7) RE: Fokker D.VII assumptions by "Diego Fernetti" 8) WW1 modeler's hell and heaven by "Diego Fernetti" 9) RE: Broken Parts by "Diego Fernetti" 10) Re: flatpfalz! by "Diego Fernetti" 11) RE: Cookups by "Diego Fernetti" 12) RE: cook-up query. Neil what's a by Mark Miller 13) RE: Having fun with wood by Crawford Neil 14) RE: Cookups by Crawford Neil 15) RE: WW1 modeler's hell and heaven by Crawford Neil 16) airfield details by Mark Miller 17) RE: airfield details by "Diego Fernetti" 18) RE: airfield details by Crawford Neil 19) Re: flatpfalz! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) Re: flatpfalz! by "Diego Fernetti" 21) RE: Having fun with wood by "Michael Kendix" 22) re: airfield details by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 23) RE: Cookups by Mark Miller 24) RE: Having fun with wood by Crawford Neil 25) Be.2c and Camel by Witold Kozakiewicz 26) RE: Having fun with wood by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 27) RE: WW1 modeler's hell and heaven by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 28) Re: Be.2c and Camel by "Tom Plesha" 29) RE: Having fun with wood by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 30) RE: Having fun with wood by Crawford Neil 31) WWI] re: airfield details by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 32) =?iso-8859-1?Q?I=B4ve_received?= by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:12:17 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: cook-up query Message-ID: <3BD51851.162D05A@tac.com.au> Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au wrote: > > Hi All; > > Is it too late to join the Sopwith Cook-up? > > Neil E. Hi Neil, No it's not - whatcha want to submit ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:15:24 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Albatros Cookup ?? Message-ID: <3BD5190C.32273D05@tac.com.au> Brian Nicklas wrote: > > Are the Albatros Cookup pages totally gone, with no hope of return? > This would be criminal, they are a great resource, not to mention > Mark Miller's fantastic images... > And the other other pages were coming along so well... Hi Brian, I have the whole site backed up ;-). Look for the re-launch hopefully over the weekend as things have been a tad busy here. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:41:25 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Cookups Message-ID: <3BD51F25.50407@bg.am.lodz.pl> Mark Miller wrote: > Maybe if we all chant together > SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH. Talking about Sopwith... nb. BM Dolphin :-) -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:44:02 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Cookups Message-ID: <3BD52DD2.E8E54304@tac.com.au> Witold Kozakiewicz wrote: > > Maybe if we all chant together > > SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH. > > > Talking about Sopwith... > nb. BM Dolphin :-) > Ssssh, the unbuilt Sopwiths in the modelling area are getting restless and shaking the dust off themselves :-) One of the advantages of talking cookup I guess Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:04:28 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Having fun with wood Message-ID: Strange we can build scale models out of polystyrene with impunity, but when we use the original material, we get accused of cheating? Have I got this right? Only last week we were debating about WHAT wood instrument panels were made of, and the fact the modeller in question wanted to get the same wood to make the model panel. (I'd be interested to know if he got it from a bonsai version of the tree, otherwise the grain would have been out of scale :) I've been building flying models out of wood for years. Polystyrene doesn't bounce... N >Carving wood IS fun and usfull for most things, >props, floorboard, seats, panels, struts etc. > >Although one run the risk of >be called a cheater. I was once. -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 04:13:18 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Fokker D.VII assumptions Message-ID: Okay, LMK if anything thinks this is strange (well, besides coming from me, that is). Since there aren't that many close up photos of Jasta 7 Fokker D.VIIs, and since the Delta Decals comes with a Jasta 7 D.VII, here is my assumption. The one or two close up photos of J7 D.VIIs show early machines, but there are no close up photos of the D.VII on the decal sheet. Is it safe to assume that the D.VII on the decal sheet is an early Fokker D.VII? I am going on that assumption, but wanted to post my query to the list. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:00:52 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Fokker D.VII assumptions Message-ID: <008301c15ba9$9a374a80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt: You may check the serial numbers of the fokkers of Jasta 7 -if recorded- in a book of the kind of "The Jasta Pilots" and make those assumptions a certainty. If not, you may live tortured by your guilty conscience by all the years that you still have to live with the models that may, or may not, be innacurate. Check to your local priest, but I'd say that you may also have a big chance to go to hell and burn for eternity if you don't make sure (ah, this gives me an idea for a new thread!). Sorry, I don't have that book to check! :-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 6:12 AM Subject: [WWI] Fokker D.VII assumptions > Okay, LMK if anything thinks this is strange (well, besides coming from > me, that is). > > Since there aren't that many close up photos of Jasta 7 Fokker D.VIIs, > and since the Delta Decals comes with a Jasta 7 D.VII, here is my > assumption. The one or two close up photos of J7 D.VIIs show early > machines, but there are no close up photos of the D.VII on the decal > sheet. Is it safe to assume that the D.VII on the decal sheet is an > early Fokker D.VII? I am going on that assumption, but wanted to post > my query to the list. > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:36:30 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: WW1 modeler's hell and heaven Message-ID: <00c801c15bae$93e54d80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> First of all, I guess that the modeler's hell is one of the outer rings of Hades, since most modelers are good natured people and can't do much harm, but they probably can skip a sunday or two from mass, to work for a contest deadline or such. What's the suffering destined to them after they pass away? Well, it depends on each one's guilt but, generally speaking most theologists agree on: - Building a Naglo Quadruplane without references. - Cleaning flash of Merlin kits forever - Building a perfect model (man you have ETERNITY to finish it!) but using corroding paint. - Building models of the whole German Air Service of the summer of 1918 and then a low cathegory devil tells you that the losenge must be applied otherwise. - Paint wheel hubs. ONLY wheels hubs for all the eternity. - Build Revell's Fokker D.VII with Hermann Göring nagging you behind your back. Of course, those modelers virtuous enough and that before death repented from building Me1** and in 1/48 scale, may be carried by a host of biplane cherubs to the big workbench in the skies and then: - Find a complete set of all WW1 related publications - Receive a free pass to visit Heaven's own aviation museum, where are stored Guynemer's and Saint Ex last airplanes (BTW they are always walking by and very glad to show you personally their machines) - You get all the kits whose issue was announced but were never released in your lifetime. For free. - Hobby knife blades never get dull. - Decals never yellow and are thin and without translucence. - 1/72 engines do work! - Photoetched parts never get lost on the white floor of clouds. - Bill Bacon is there waiting for us and, by golly, he KNOWS wich hue of blue in the french roundel is! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:03:40 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Broken Parts Message-ID: <011401c15bb2$5fca8a20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey Greg! Shane wrote: > I have a new one in an envelope. Email me your snail mail address off list > and I'll post it today. This is what I call a solution, not mine! :-) Yes, this is a wonderful list to be! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:06:12 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <012401c15bb2$b9da91e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ahh Gregorio! Great minds think alike. Yes, I've contacted Mr. Yiu Kee and we will try a prototype for multifarious PU Pfalzen... Now to find female friends who would be eager to hug me, that's the hard part. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: flatpfalz! > Another on-list spam which should go directly to Dieguito: > > > The series of PU toys have hundreds of designs,cartoon figures, > > fruits, cars,... it also can be made according to your confirmed > > sample. With the features of vivid shapes, good elasticity, > > low cost, > > Of course, to replace whole collection (well planned) of Pfalz planes > in his pocket, during hugs with friends (male or female?) > Grzes :-) > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:13:05 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Cookups Message-ID: <018501c15bb3$fd6039a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mark wrote: > Personaly I think we should try to resurect the Sopwith cookup. And follow it up with Nieuports like we planned. As the one who brought the issue of a new CookUp to the list, I agree with Mark, hearing the reasons given by many listmembers, it's OK for me that the 504 project can wait for a while, until present cookups can be finished and the next on Nieuports will be on line (after all, I'm building a 28!) But I'll insist on a AVRO CookUp someday! That's a nice, and quoting Shane tE, homely airplane. D. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 2001 04:10:02 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: cook-up query. Neil what's a Message-ID: <20011023111002.16188.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Mon, 22 October 2001, Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au wrote: > don't want to jump into the SE as I'm drawing up cockpit plans for it at the moment...< Neil I happen to have some drawings of the SE5a cockpit which might be of some use to you. A couple of scans and a Corel draw file which could be exported to almost any file format. Contact me if you are interested But drawing up plans CAN be fun so don't let me spoil anything :-) Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:13:23 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Having fun with wood Message-ID: That was just Mårten having a dig at me, because I've been known to comment about his Albatross W4 having balsa floats. And if you can make them look as good as they do despite using balsa, then I think he deserves some goading! The out of scale grain is interesting, did I miss that? I prefer to use Mahogony because the grain is very compact, and looks true to scale, I used Walnut on my Ni28 propellor but I didn't think it looked so good on a model, it was too dark. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard [mailto:su3264@eclipse.co.uk] > Sent: den 23 oktober 2001 11:07 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Having fun with wood > > > Strange we can build scale models out of polystyrene with impunity, > but when we use the original material, we get accused of cheating? > Have I got this right? Only last week we were debating about WHAT > wood instrument panels were made of, and the fact the modeller in > question wanted to get the same wood to make the model panel. (I'd be > interested to know if he got it from a bonsai version of the tree, > otherwise the grain would have been out of scale :) > I've been building flying models out of wood for years. Polystyrene > doesn't bounce... > N > > >Carving wood IS fun and usfull for most things, > >props, floorboard, seats, panels, struts etc. > > > >Although one run the risk of > >be called a cheater. I was once. > > -- > Nigel Cheffers-Heard > photography + design > > tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 > fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 > mobile: 0771 261 4514 > nigelch@cheffers.co.uk > www.cheffers.co.uk > > Laburnums, Bridge Hill > Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:14:25 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Cookups Message-ID: homely is the word! /Neil C. > But I'll insist on a AVRO CookUp someday! That's a nice, and > quoting Shane > tE, homely airplane. > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:16:39 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: WW1 modeler's hell and heaven Message-ID: And you managed all this without even mentioning the Voss cowling, I'm impressed;-) /Neil C. ps, That wheel-hub purgatory sounds the worst! ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 2001 04:50:02 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: airfield details Message-ID: <20011023115002.18999.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Now that my virtual Albatros is finished (sort of) I would like to generate some ground scenes. I found a couple of nice photos of the jasta 5 Aerodrome in Boistrancourt in the Squadron Signal book Albatros Fighters in Action - pgs 14, 29 so I decided to try and model this field Also in the same book are a couple of nice close-ups of a hangar on pg. 18 & 19. I asked about these photos on the Aerodrome forum and got some info which might be of interest here 1 - photo on page 14 shows what looks like electrical insulators. It would seem that the Hangars did have electricity sometimes provided by generator trucks. This is a BIG deal for me - source lighting in a virtual model can be very interesting 2 the hangar doors. Consists of a door on each side hung traditionally, and a large center door which swings down and acts as a ramp 3 floors were wood - sometimes only partially covering the ground designed just to keep the AC out of the dirt 4 those odd structures built at regular intervals in front of the hangars (as seen on pg29) I didn't know what these things were, machine guns emplacements, Dan-San thinks they are corncribs or composters !!! That one took me by surprise. I'm also looking for details - What I've come up with so far is: Step ladders Those stands used to keep the AC level on the ground and what looks like a watering can. Good photo is the one with Udet standing in front of his D3 with 2 ground crew working on the engine on stepladders - has the watering can in the foreground. I've been studying every reference I can get a hold of looking for data - If anyone has any info on this subject please let me know Vehicles are another major subject, but I'm out of time - I'll post what I've got later - But it's not much :-( Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:09:59 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: airfield details Message-ID: <022d01c15bbb$a3266920$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mark! Remember, every airfiled has lots of spare parts, buckets, fuel drums, tables, wooden boxes and paint tins, and in that era I would also add fabric rolls. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Miller To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: [WWI] airfield details > Now that my virtual Albatros is finished (sort of) I would like to generate some ground scenes. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:10:04 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: airfield details Message-ID: The watering can would be natural on water-cooled DVIIs, or perhaps they grew pansys?! /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:23:52 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <007701c15bbd$95027f80$0200a8c0@x.pl> Amigo! > Now to find female friends who would be eager to hug me, that's the > hard part. > D. At first you can train with PU female friend, "vivid shapes, good elasticity" sounds good here too :-) G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:28:50 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: Re: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <027901c15bbe$4596a920$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Been there, done that. Never more, Grzes, never more! ;-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: flatpfalz! > Amigo! > > Now to find female friends who would be eager to hug me, that's the > > hard part. > > D. > At first you can train with PU female friend, "vivid shapes, good > elasticity" sounds good here too :-) > G. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:25:46 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Having fun with wood Message-ID: Nigel: I think the overwhelming majority of modellers would be appreciative of models made of wood either in part or whole. Even in official IPMS competition, I believe that making wooden props and struts is perfectly fine - I did it, not that I had a prayer of winning though. Anyway, the only person one needs to satisfy of one's legitimacy is oneself. Michael >From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard >Strange we can build scale models out of polystyrene with impunity, >but when we use the original material, we get accused of cheating? >Have I got this right? Only last week we were debating about WHAT >wood instrument panels were made of, and the fact the modeller in >question wanted to get the same wood to make the model panel. (I'd be >interested to know if he got it from a bonsai version of the tree, >otherwise the grain would have been out of scale :) >I've been building flying models out of wood for years. Polystyrene >doesn't bounce... >N > > >Carving wood IS fun and usfull for most things, > >props, floorboard, seats, panels, struts etc. > > > >Although one run the risk of > >be called a cheater. I was once. > >-- >Nigel Cheffers-Heard >photography + design > >tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 >fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 >mobile: 0771 261 4514 >nigelch@cheffers.co.uk >www.cheffers.co.uk > >Laburnums, Bridge Hill >Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:33:36 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: airfield details Message-ID: <009301c15bbe$f0750800$0200a8c0@x.pl> Mark! Dog! Don't forget dog! That animals are on almost every airfield photographs! And check this: http://members.home.net/flyingaces/archive1.htm G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 2001 05:34:27 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Cookups Message-ID: <20011023123427.21252.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 23 October 2001, Crawford Neil wrote: > > homely is the word! > /Neil C. Anorexic is another word but she got a great "personality" :-) Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:37:02 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Having fun with wood Message-ID: I think there is often a clause in the rules saying that major structural parts should be plastic. It's like that up here, Mårtens floats are probably a small enough percentage to be acceptable. I think this rule is silly, I think it was made to keep out the boat builders and R/C modellers, heaven forbid they might win! Personally I use plastic because I think it's a superior material , I use wood when it looks better. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Kendix [mailto:mkendix@hotmail.com] > Sent: den 23 oktober 2001 14:27 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Having fun with wood > > > Nigel: > > I think the overwhelming majority of modellers would be > appreciative of > models made of wood either in part or whole. Even in official IPMS > competition, I believe that making wooden props and struts is > perfectly fine > - I did it, not that I had a prayer of winning though. > Anyway, the only > person one needs to satisfy of one's legitimacy is oneself. > > Michael > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:37:49 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Be.2c and Camel Message-ID: <3BD5649D.4020102@bg.am.lodz.pl> I've loaded two OT models to Polish Modelers'Website. BM Sopwith Camel - Kosciuszko squadron http://www.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze/galeria/golebiewski/camel/index.html and Aeroclub Be.2c http://www.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze/galeria/szczypka/be2c/index.html That Be.2c is something you must see. I must find how to eat without jaws. I gave up searching it. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:44:40 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RE: Having fun with wood Message-ID: <009b01c15bc0$7c53ce00$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi! Legally, wood should be accepted like PE brass - no less and no more :-) For me wood makes our building techniques more rich! I've covered fuselage of one my old models with veneer (not exactly, precisely with ironed strips of very thin wood made with plane (is spelling correct?)), effect was very good! G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:59:37 -0200 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: WW1 modeler's hell and heaven Message-ID: <002d01c15bca$fad1cf20$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Hello, Diego and list folks! ROTFL!!!!! > First of all, I guess that the modeler's hell is one of the > outer rings of > Hades Hm, I'm gonna check this in my Divine Comedy. There must be something about this. I'll also ask a friend of mine who has a Summa Theologica :-) > - Paint wheel hubs. ONLY wheels hubs for all the eternity. Aaaaaaaaaaargh! > Of course, those modelers virtuous enough and that before > death repented > from building Me1** and in 1/48 scale, And also add Sp*****e, F***e-W**f, P-4* and P-5*. I don't remember the seventh capital sin. Of course building any of these aircraft in 1/48 is a sin that calls for revenge from heaven, as the classical definition says. > may be carried by a > host of biplane > cherubs to the big workbench in the skies and then: > > - Receive a free pass to visit Heaven's own aviation museum, where are > stored Guynemer's and Saint Ex last airplanes (BTW they are > always walking > by and very glad to show you personally their machines) Not to mention a certain triplane, I guess (no, not the red one)! All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Amateur theologist and Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:59:55 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Be.2c and Camel Message-ID: <001f01c15bc2$9d2f7280$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Witold- Very very nice work! Thats a pretty "wild" scheme on the Be.2! Great work Thanks for letting us see them. Later Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Witold Kozakiewicz" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:39 AM Subject: [WWI] Be.2c and Camel > I've loaded two OT models to Polish Modelers'Website. > BM Sopwith Camel - Kosciuszko squadron > http://www.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze/galeria/golebiewski/camel/index.html > > and > Aeroclub Be.2c > http://www.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze/galeria/szczypka/be2c/index.html > That Be.2c is something you must see. I must find how to eat without > jaws. I gave up searching it. > -- > Witold Kozakiewicz > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:03:26 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: RE: Having fun with wood Message-ID: <162.2bb6fad.2906c49f@aol.com> Minor ot alert! I'm presently scratch building the Avro IV triplane I mentioned earlier. In 1:12, it has a 32" wingspan. I'm in the middle of cutting out 107 wing ribs out of 1/32" basswood! I'd forgotten how much fun it is to build with wood. BTW, does anyone have any sources of info on the Green 35 HP engine and the laced-on covering for the rear fuselage? Please contact me off-list. Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:06:24 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Having fun with wood Message-ID: Isn't this just about as OT as you can get? Not sure about the exact rules though. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com [mailto:CoolSpadLuke@aol.com] > Sent: den 23 oktober 2001 15:04 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Having fun with wood > > > Minor ot alert! I'm presently scratch building the Avro IV > triplane I mentioned earlier. In 1:12, it has a 32" > wingspan. I'm in the middle of cutting out 107 wing ribs out > of 1/32" basswood! I'd forgotten how much fun it is to build > with wood. > > BTW, does anyone have any sources of info on the Green 35 HP > engine and the laced-on covering for the rear fuselage? > Please contact me off-list. > > Mike Kavanaugh > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:21:58 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: WWI] re: airfield details Message-ID: <00b901c15bc5$b2aaafa0$0200a8c0@x.pl> And this: http://204.83.160.230/archive/a/images/udet_alb.jpg _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:18:04 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= To: "WWI Lista" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?I=B4ve_received?= Message-ID: <005701c15b60$921dd060$b70de818@fibertel.com.ar> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Dear Folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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