WWI Digest 3823 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Broken Parts by "Diego Fernetti" 2) Re: flatpfalz! by "cameron rile" 3) RE: Origin of Hat in the Ring by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Caporetto by Peter Fedders 5) German aircraft units in Italy by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 6) RE: Broken Parts by Balzer Mr Gregory P 7) Beardmore Engine Qns by Sanjeev Hirve 8) RE: Cookups by Witold Kozakiewicz 9) Re: Beardmore Engine Qns by "Lance Krieg" 10) RE: Cookups by Mark Miller 11) Re: Beardmore Engine Qns by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Re: flatpfalz! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 13) RE: Cookups by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 14) Vimy by JVT7532@aol.com 15) RE: Cookups by Shane Weier 16) RE: Broken Parts by Shane Weier 17) Re: Talking about Bristols by Shane Weier 18) Re: Talking about Bristols by Steve Cox 19) RE: Eagle Strike 4-Colour Lozenge (Upper) by Shane Weier 20) show report by "Pedro Soares" 21) Re: Alps by "Matt Bittner" 22) Roden photogallery by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 23) Re: Alps by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:09:33 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: Broken Parts Message-ID: <013e01c15b1c$51eec920$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Gregory! Unfortunately, it's unlikely that someone who has built a triplane can have a spare interplane strut... You have a part that's almost equal to those that snapped away, that is the strut opposed from that you lost. Why don't you make a "push" mold with clay?: having previously covered the part with vaseline, you push it against a block of soft clay, then when the clay is dry, pick the part carefully with a hobby knife point. Then you'll have a rough mold of half of the part. Dust the mold with talcum powder and then prepare a small ball of milliput that you can spread over the impression of the strut, as if you were preparing a cast of a dinosaur footprint. When dry, take it apart from the mold and clean up as usual as a very flashy kit part. You will end wiht a strut whose inboard detail is lost, but it's better than none at all. You also can "shave" the fishplates from the end you still have and glue it on the bare ends of the inboard strut face... I may add a lenght of wire or stretched sprue as an inner reinforcement for the strut, since being just milliput it will be very brittle. HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: [WWI] Broken Parts > Good Morning Everyone, > > Need a little help from the list. This weekend whilst working on my DML Dr. > 1, I was in the process of removing the interplane struts from the sprue > when "SNAP-BOING!" Snap being the part breaking in half, Boing being the > part being catapulted across the room. Spent the better part of the weekend > on my hands and knees searching for the missing half, but it appears as the > carpet gremlins have won again. > > Does anyone know whether model companies routinely replace parts due to > builder neglect and (stealing a term from Shane) "hamfistedness?" If so, > does anyone have an address to DML for such emergencies?? > > Failing that, do any of you fellow listees have an old DML Dr. 1 interplane > strut hanging around in a spare parts bin?? > > I can sense 99% of the list begin to mouth the word - SCRATCHBUILD! When > the kit arrived both the interior frame tubing and seat bracket parts were > broken, so I have cut my teeth scratchbuilding the interior out of brass > rod. But, I don't think I've got the skills or ability yet to scratchbuild > something this detailed and have it match the remaining three struts. > > TIA > Greg Balzer > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:14:14 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <339A5F6E30B8BE34E974A80F1C8CD21F@cameron.prontomail.com> Ira, >I understand your pflat situation perfectly. Yep same here, my wife when playing with cats and flicking around a feathery thing on a stick hit my DVIII accidentally. It ended up looking like it had come directly from the production line, minus top wing and struts but still with its undercarriage. That little model DVIII has mimiced the woes of its real life counterparts, it has survived a bombing with a half full coke bottle while on the way to an IPMS meeting and also being strafed by a cat toy. 5 mins of glue fixed it and it still looks like the best model I have done lol. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:10:59 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Origin of Hat in the Ring Message-ID: <170.2b53e6f.2905ad23@aol.com> In a message dated 10/22/01 3:09:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: << I found this in Eddy Rickenbackers memoirs over at the WTJ: .........the " Hat-in-the-Ring." It was immediately adopted and the next day designs and drawings were made by Lieutenant John Wentworth of Chicago, >> Just an odd little factoid- if any of you attend airshows in the western USA and see a gaggle of Corsairs or Avengers, chances are that one is being flown by Chuck Wentworth. He also pops up flying various Javier Arango WW I airplanes in a lot of TV documentaries....anyway- John Wentworth was his uncle. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:18:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Caporetto Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Alberto Casirati wrote: Yes Alberto, but when did the Germans leave? Did the Italians stop the Central Powers (plural) or the Austrians without the Germans !!!!! big difference peter > I am certainly not a real expert of WW1 ground warfare, but all the > references at my disposal agree in underlining that: > > - the battle began on the 24th October 1917; > - the Italian front collapsed in that front line sector; > - the Italian tried to estabilish a resistance line on the Tagliamento > river, but this was not sufficient to stop the enemy attack; > - between the 5th and the 8th November 1917, French and British > representatives met the Italian authorities at Rapallo, to offer their help, > which was accepted; > - meanwhile, the Italian army estabilished another defence line between the > Piave river, the Grappa mountain and the plateaus, which was repeatedly > attacked by the Central Power forces to no avail; > - British and French forces arrived in Italy but were kept in back areas, as > reserve forces; > - the battle ended on the 26th November; > - after the situation had settled, French and British forces reached front > line positions. > > This seems to clear the matter. Substantiated comments welcome ! > > > Alberto Casirati > > Honorary Keeper - Aviation Section > Bergamo Museum of History > > www.museostoricobg.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:32:21 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: German aircraft units in Italy Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F1FD@SERVER1> AFAIK, the following German units reached the Italian front in late 1917: - artillery observation units: Fl.Abt. 2, 14 and 17 - reconnaissance units: Fl.Abt. 204, 219 and 232 - fighter units: 1, 31 and 39 - bombing units: kampfgeschwader 4 Were there other units ? When did the above named units arrive in Italy precisely ? When were they ready for fighting ? Thanks very much in advance to you all, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:00:33 -0400 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Broken Parts Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C97668C7D3@TECOM03E> D. BRILLIANT!! I would have never thought of such a simple solution myself. This list is fantastic! Greg -----Original Message----- From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Broken Parts Hi Gregory! Unfortunately, it's unlikely that someone who has built a triplane can have a spare interplane strut... You have a part that's almost equal to those that snapped away, that is the strut opposed from that you lost. Why don't you make a "push" mold with clay?: having previously covered the part with vaseline, you push it against a block of soft clay, then when the clay is dry, pick the part carefully with a hobby knife point. Then you'll have a rough mold of half of the part. Dust the mold with talcum powder and then prepare a small ball of milliput that you can spread over the impression of the strut, as if you were preparing a cast of a dinosaur footprint. When dry, take it apart from the mold and clean up as usual as a very flashy kit part. You will end wiht a strut whose inboard detail is lost, but it's better than none at all. You also can "shave" the fishplates from the end you still have and glue it on the bare ends of the inboard strut face... I may add a lenght of wire or stretched sprue as an inner reinforcement for the strut, since being just milliput it will be very brittle. HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: [WWI] Broken Parts > Good Morning Everyone, > > Need a little help from the list. This weekend whilst working on my DML Dr. > 1, I was in the process of removing the interplane struts from the sprue > when "SNAP-BOING!" Snap being the part breaking in half, Boing being the > part being catapulted across the room. Spent the better part of the weekend > on my hands and knees searching for the missing half, but it appears as the > carpet gremlins have won again. > > Does anyone know whether model companies routinely replace parts due to > builder neglect and (stealing a term from Shane) "hamfistedness?" If so, > does anyone have an address to DML for such emergencies?? > > Failing that, do any of you fellow listees have an old DML Dr. 1 interplane > strut hanging around in a spare parts bin?? > > I can sense 99% of the list begin to mouth the word - SCRATCHBUILD! When > the kit arrived both the interior frame tubing and seat bracket parts were > broken, so I have cut my teeth scratchbuilding the interior out of brass > rod. But, I don't think I've got the skills or ability yet to scratchbuild > something this detailed and have it match the remaining three struts. > > TIA > Greg Balzer > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:18:26 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: Beardmore Engine Qns Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C7DE@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Hi all, I am detailing the Beardmore engine on the FE2b, and I had some questions for detailing, and some out of sheer curiousity. My source of reference are photos in the Fe2b Datafile, and 2 photo/drawings in Jane's aircraft of WWI. The engine appears in various configurations, probably because of variations between 120HP and 160 HP versions. Eg - some show the magnetos/distributors in the front, facing forward (towrads the prop), while sometimes they are located at the back, facing outwards. Any explanation here? - the intake manifold in some versions consists of 2 separate buses fed by 2 separate carbs and feeding 3 cylinders each, while in other versions, it looks like a single bus fed by 2 carbs and feeding all 6 cylinders. - The engine has only one tappet valve per cylinder. Is this an exhaust or intake valve? I suppose the other opening is in the cylinder wall. - Does the engine have 1 or 2 spark plugs per cylinder? The distributors seem to show 12 wires. - there is a tube bus on top of the engine. It feeds into the top of each cylinder. Is this the coolant pipe? If so, I would be a bit surprised since the more powerful Mercedes has its cooling ducts in series. - on the fe2b, the exhaust seems to have an elaborate muffler (or silencer in english). Was this used to suppress flash on the night-flying variants, or was it standard on all versions? and why such an elaborate system? Any definitive answers and speculations are welcome. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:51:30 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Cookups Message-ID: <3BD478C2.60803@bg.am.lodz.pl> Allan Wright wrote: > If you all wanted I could put up a poll on the site where we could > pick the next cookup subject based on most popular request. That should > keep us all on 'the group W bench' > Or maybe I could count votes like I did last time with sopwith. The site poll has one disadvantage, everybody even non list members can vote there. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:53:30 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Beardmore Engine Qns Message-ID: It's been a long time, but what I remember about Beardmores: The principle differences you describe are between the 120 HP and 160 HP versions. IIRC, both were used on the Fees, depending on the production date. Dual carbs on 160. Twin sparkplugs on all cylinders. Seems like the magnetos are mounted toward the rear of the plane for ease of access, though this is the prop end in the pusher configuration. In a tractor configuration, this would likely be reversed. I believe the rocker arm is hinged in the middle, with both of the valves being served by the ends as the arm see-saws up and down. That pipe at the top is definitely part of the cooling system, but isn't it the scavenger to recover steam boiled off the cylinders and return it to the radiator? I seem to recall that a certain amount of back-pressure supplied by a silencer or muffler is necessary to keep compression high, in order to deliver the rated horsepower. All the photos seem to show the muffler, and not just the night-bombing machines. All of this is memory, and I'm not much of an expert on engines. There are some nice color shots of Beardmore 120 on an old Winsock cover... can't recall the issue, but I used it a lot. And more on the site, again a 120. Lance ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 2001 13:37:31 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Cookups Message-ID: <20011022203731.28105.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Mon, 22 October 2001, Witold Kozakiewicz wrote: Or maybe I could count votes like I did last time with sopwith. The site poll has one disadvantage, everybody even non list members can vote there. -- > Witold Kozakiewicz Not to mention voting multiple times - But I'm SURE that nobody wise enough to be interested in WW1 modeling would stoop so low :-) Personaly I think we should try to resurect the Sopwith cookup. And follow it up with Nieuports like we planned. We lost momemtum when Cam stepped down as webmaster. No blame on Cam - he did his share, and that's for sure. And then NBCI went down and killed it entirely. I stopped working on my pup project months ago and I need to refocus my efforts. Sure I don't need a cookup to do it - but it helps. The Abatros cookup helped me a lot. The added incentive of posting progress and getting feedback definitly helped keep me on track. I wonder how many people finished their Sopwith projects and just didn't have anywhere to send it. Or how many have half finished project which got sent to the "to do later" pile. Shane/Lorna has stepped forward and volunteered to do the work - Why don't we just reschedule the end dates and try to gin up some enthusiasm. Maybe if we all chant together SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH. hmmm ..... where DID I put that pup model anyway Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:40:43 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Beardmore Engine Qns Message-ID: <4b.12f8c1c3.2905de4b@aol.com> In a message dated 10/22/01 12:57:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lance.krieg@amerus.com writes: << There are some nice color shots of Beardmore 120 on an old Winsock cover... can't recall the issue, but I used it a lot. And more on the site, again a 120. Lance >> Also- head to: http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Engines/Beard120/index.html Right there on the WW I site itself- several shots of the Champlin 120HP Bearmore! RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:46:16 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: flatpfalz! 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And if the next one is ugly little Nieuports - well I'll build one of them too if the *list* is doing it. > Maybe if we all chant together > SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH. I think you should quote Al. "Focus people!" ;-) IMHO of course. YMMV Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:27:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Cc: "'Balzer Mr Gregory P'" Subject: RE: Broken Parts Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD678@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Greg, > I was in the process of removing the interplane struts > from the sprue > when "SNAP-BOING!" Snap being the part breaking in half, > Boing being the > part being catapulted across the room. Interplane strut - as in the BIG ones. Yikes. > Failing that, do any of you fellow listees have an old DML > Dr. 1 interplane > strut hanging around in a spare parts bin?? I have a new one in an envelope. Email me your snail mail address off list and I'll post it today. You should have it in 7-8 days. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:31:12 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Talking about Bristols Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD67A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil says: > Ah, but they were French built, not British. We painted the British > built Nie17bis in proper PC-10 !! Of course. There's no excuse for lowering ones standards is there? ;-) Shane > ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:43:27 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Talking about Bristols Message-ID: > From: David Fleming > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:01:47 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Talking about Bristols > > Crawford Neil wrote: > >> I haven't been paying attention, but weren't those >> RFC Nieuport 17's that Matt so dislikes, aluminium doped? >> Or was it another kind of silver paint? >> /Neil C. >> > > Ah, but they were French built, not British. We painted the British > built Nie17bis in proper PC-10 !! > > Quite So !! Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:44:03 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Eagle Strike 4-Colour Lozenge (Upper) Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD67B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Tom says: > I have absorbed your correspondence with a lot of interest from the > sidelines for quite some time now and I have to say I am very > grateful for > the detailed history and modelling tips I have picked up > about OT subjects. It's nice to know that the lurkers too can enjoy the list and benefit from it. Welcome to the world of the verbose ;-) > The reason for my message concerns the Fokker DVII. I > obtained Eagle Strike > 4-colour lozenge Nice loz. Bunch of pirates did the research IIRC, but the end result is nice :-) > I now learn from Hannants > that there is no more Eagle Strike 4-colour lozenge and that > it may not be reprinted. Uh-oh. > Does anyone from the UK have any spare Eagle > Strike lozenge that > they can bear to part with (one or two bolts would be > enough)? I'm sorry to say that the answer is *no* from me. However, I *have* seen ES 4 colour loz in shps here in Australia and I believe it's still available, even if Hannants is all out. > On this subject it seems crazy that something like lozenge > which modellers > need over and over again should be subject to limoted print runs Infuriating isn't it. One more reason I'm pleased to stick with Americals. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:47:13 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: show report Message-ID: <001201c15b4b$7e3d35a0$2d7216d5@netcabo.pt> Gang, Every year a modeling club from the North of Portugal, Porto, to be more precise (Oporto to those of you of British extraction) organises a model show, which they somewhat pompously call the IPMS Portugal National contest. Being in bad need of a short vacation, I decided this year I'd go there, so I begged for a weekend leave from SWMBO (who graciously granted it), packed my camping gear and a handfull of my models and up the road I went braving very lousy weather all the way to my destination, which lies roughly 330 kms from where I now stand. Well, the show was very affected by the bad weather, the organisers told me, and in fact there were not that many entries, for a "national" event and I regret to say that the only OT entries were mine. First prize on aircraft models 1/72 detailed, the category I was running in (the split was made by scale, with 2 sub classes - OOB and detailed) went to a very nice Me 323 Giant that was quite well finished, while 2nd and 3rd went to a P40 and an F14 with a lot of aftermarket resin. There were a few nice looking entries including a very competently detailed spitfire which I can't understand why got no prize at all. It featured a full engine and lots of opened panels, with very nice scrathbuilt details, without a shadow of resin or PE. Seems the judges prefer the buy it all rather than the do it yourself method... Anyway, I had a relaxing time, met some nice people, and except for the weather (my tent did hold estoically without a single drop of rain getting in) it was nice. Now I have more than 200 messages to read. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:11:48 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Alps Message-ID: <200110222300.QAA29560@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 04:37:18 -0400 (EDT), Bob Pearson wrote: > Now to think of some OT stuff to do. Now that's easy. *All* Escadrille embles, properly sized, in all scales. No, I don't ask for much, why? ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:03:31 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: Roden photogallery Message-ID: <010601c15b4d$c5863180$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi! On Roden webpage there is request (today published) for photos of Roden-produced completed models for their gallery! Help them! www.rodenplant.com We have some in our list gallery, even no scanning is needed! Just builders permission! (usual disclaimer, no connections...) Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:06:06 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Alps Message-ID: <010e01c15b4e$220ae2c0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Matt! Don't ask now. I've asked for similar this morning, and he didn't answered. I hope he is busy making decals for us! :-) G. > Now that's easy. *All* Escadrille embles, properly sized, in all > scales. > Matt Bittner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3823 **********************