WWI Digest 3821 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 2) Back in the saddle by "Matt Bittner" 3) Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 4) Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. by "Ross Moorhouse" 5) Re: Dragon Triplane parts, Camel Squadron and DF 89 Comments by Todd Hayes 6) Frankenmodeler: Modelist Morane G to Pfalz E.I by Rory Goodwin 7) RE: Frankenmodeler: Modelist Morane G to Pfalz E.I by Shane Weier 8) RE: Frankenmodeler: Modelist Morane G to Pfalz E.I REPRISE by Shane Weier 9) Re: EE S. 16 by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?= 10) RE: Frankenmodeler: Modelist Morane G to Pfalz E.I REPRISE by Todd Hayes 11) Re: Talking about Bristols by David Fleming 12) Alps by "Bob Pearson" 13) Re: Talking about Bristols by Crawford Neil 14) Re: Talking about Bristols by David Fleming 15) flatpfalz! by "Diego Fernetti" 16) RE: Origin of Hat in the Ring by Crawford Neil 17) Re: Talking about Bristols by Crawford Neil 18) RE: Alps by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 19) RE: flatpfalz! by Crawford Neil 20) re: flatpfalz! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 21) RE: flatpfalz! by "Diego Fernetti" 22) re: flatpfalz! by "Diego Fernetti" 23) RE: flatpfalz! by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 24) RE: flatpfalz! by Crawford Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:46:52 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. Message-ID: <005601c15a9b$6f3d3ec0$d1c5223f@umber> I have only found 3 shops that stock SMER kits in 48th. NKR, Wings and Things and of all places the RAAF Museum shop http://www.raafmuseum.com.au/shop/main.htm#models Of course I am talking about shops here down under :) Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. | $15.83... But I haven't seen it listed anywhere in Australia. I could of got | it from Squadron in the States but the shipping would of been $25 US or in | our poor weak dollar $50. :((( | | Ross | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: | To: "Multiple recipients of list" | Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:13 AM | Subject: [WWI] Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. | | | | | | How much did you pay for it Ross? Its available pretty cheap around the | | place - both here and overseas. | | | | Neil E | | | | | | | | | ____________________________________________________________________________ | _____ | | NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended | recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies | immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you | should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the | authority of the Department of Human Services. | | | | Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual | sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of | the Department. | | | | Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant | and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been | maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception | or interference. | | | | If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding | this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System | Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au | | | ____________________________________________________________________________ | _____ | | | | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:50:29 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Back in the saddle Message-ID: <200110220148.SAA14649@hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Man, it feels good. Finally was able to get back into the modeling, by gluing in the cockpit pieces into the SPAD SA.2 and spraying it all flat. Now to glue the fuselage halves together and keep going... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:28:29 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. Message-ID: Yes, that's about right - I got mine for about the same at Victorian Hobby Centre about a year ago. Yes you're right about the postage at Squadron is through the roof - why they can't do deals like Hannants, BM, or some of the others I don't know. With that sort of postage, its a major disincentive to buy from them. I haven't built the DH2 yet - its in the cupboard (sigh). I know there's an article somewhere on the WW1 website about correcting the minor problems it has.... Regards Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:02:27 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. Message-ID: <006a01c15a9d$9c6032c0$d1c5223f@umber> The article you talk of is Steven Perry's one http://wwimodeler.freeyellow.com/ The 504 I ordered from NKR came in this morning. These SMER kits aren't that bad IMHO. Besides the raised markings details and the wing ribs that make some cat walk models look fat. ;) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: I just got a SMER Airco DH2.. | | Yes, that's about right - I got mine for about the same at Victorian Hobby | Centre about a year ago. Yes you're right about the postage at Squadron is | through the roof - why they can't do deals like Hannants, BM, or some of | the others I don't know. With that sort of postage, its a major | disincentive to buy from them. | | I haven't built the DH2 yet - its in the cupboard (sigh). I know there's an | article somewhere on the WW1 website about correcting the minor problems it | has.... | | Regards | | Neil E. | | | | ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ | NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. | | Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of the Department. | | Except as required by law, the Department does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. | | If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au | ____________________________________________________________________________ _____ | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dragon Triplane parts, Camel Squadron and DF 89 Comments Message-ID: <20011022030622.42219.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Charlie, The new Americals Jasta 4 sheets includes a captured Camel. Since I haven't bought the sheets yet, I can't comment on them directly. Todd --- Charlie and Linda Duckworth wrote: > Does anyone have a email or address I can contact > Dragon to get a > replacement set of PE parts? I've started another > triplane and noticed the > PE struts parts set is missing. I usually build > models in by the same > manufacturer (ie., Fokker) as I have all the > refernce materials out at once > and in the case of DrI, DVI, and DVIII much of the > painting is similiar. > In the case of the DML Fokker kits I build up the > interior with modified > plastic rod so while I'm doing one kit I'll > construct the interiors for > several more. > > Les Roges Camel Squadron Book: > Also received the new Camel Squadron markings book > published by Albatross. > Of all newly issued books this one will be one of my > favorites; nice > profiles of some of the more colorful Camels and a > great painting by Robert > Karr on the back cover. Brian Knight's painting of > a Camel from No. 3 > Squadron is one of his best combat paintings. Books > has 57 pages and over > 170 photos. Last there are several German photos > of Camels brought down on > the German side as it gives examples of a/c markings > used on the front. > > Definately need Eduard to crank out a 1/48th Camel > next year..... > > Datafile 89 SSW R.1 > Interesting subject but not sure it was worth a full > Datafile given there > was only one built (and rebuilt and rebuilt and > rebuilt). I assume the > larger Datafile format was due to the large 1/48 > drawings and numerous > photos available vs trying to fit this one subject > into a Mini-datafile. > Authored by Peter Grosz so the usual well research > material. > Hopefully he'll go some more common 'R' planes in > future series. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:51:38 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Frankenmodeler: Modelist Morane G to Pfalz E.I Message-ID: <3BD397CA.ACBA39DC@earthlink.net> Once again, going where angels fear to tread. Anyone else try this one? So far, to convert to a Pfalz, I've found you will need to correct/ replace the following items: undercarriage, cockpit/interior, empennage, wheels, cowling, cowl fairing. Also, this one cries out for a pe Maxim 08/15. The 80hp Oberursel may be a bit anemic or undersized and the struts/uc/tailskid hardware seem a bit thick. Oh well. It was probably worth 5 bucks as a Morane G before my butchery. Wheels from the Aurora/Glencoe SPAD are perhaps a tiny bit oversized but will have to do. The cowling will likely be a real scream to correct, requiring about 3 inserts. Any suggested alternatives? Are their any known 1/48 decal sheets with the early Pfalz-style fat, curvy Balkenkreuz? TIA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:36:49 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Frankenmodeler: Modelist Morane G to Pfalz E.I Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD671@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rory, > Are their any known 1/48 decal sheets with the > early Pfalz-style fat, curvy Balkenkreuz? Assuming you mean heavily curved EiserneKreuze with the very narrow centres - I *think* that A/G has them - sheets 74 (lareg aircraft and 75 (small aircraft) are the 1:48 version Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:41:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Frankenmodeler: Modelist Morane G to Pfalz E.I REPRISE Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD672@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rory > Are their any known 1/48 decal > sheets with the > early Pfalz-style fat, curvy Balkenkreuz? > Damn. I looked at the catalog this time. I think you need sheet 76, which is 1916 style, curvy eiserne kreuze, larger aircraft. A/G includes Pfalz E types in the list of aircraft to which these are suited. FWIW, they have SEVEN different sheets of various size and styles of extra curvy crosses! http://home.sprintmail.com/~tbittners/AG/index.html There ya go Matt - I'll save you posting it! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:15:21 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tyllstr=F6m_M=E5rten?= To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: EE S. 16 Message-ID: Hello. During this weekend I have learnt a whole lot of things about both this specific model and the real thing as well. I "found" photos of it on the list´s site that Dave Colhoun had taken at the New England air museum after (of course)I had asked the list for help. I can´t say how much I like the answers I have got from both Mickael and Grzegorz, They both provide info that makes it wortwhile to make this kit. 1. The kit is very nice but with some minor "questionmarks". That only alowes me to indulge myself in some "freeminded artistic interpretations" of the thing :-) 2. Wrong scale. As long it is on the right side, (1/72 or smaller), anything goes. :-) 3. Nobody knows for sure which plane this kit is supposed to be. Even better. Dicta ira all the way. I´ll call it a "generic" Sikorsky S.16 ! A BIG thanks for the info !! Photos in a week or so. (Now have I covered for all my mistakes by this ??) Mårten -----Original Message----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski [mailto:grzem@yahoo.com] Sent: den 19 oktober 2001 22:41 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: EE S. 16 Hi friends! When dealing such obscure types, as many Russians (Ilia Muromiec, S.16 or Anatra) be carefull in definite statements. I think that no exact and 100% credible plans exists (exept those made from preserved planes like Anatra in Prague), and also we must remember that planes of the same types were often different - see Ilia Muromiec, which every plane was more or less unique, in both dimensions and equipment. As Boleslaw Gaczkowski writes in his Polish monography of IM airplane: "(six) planes from B series had the same wingspan, length, and wing area, but different weights, speed, range and engines"; "Planes from W series had span from 28.0 m to 30.87 m, length from 17,1 m to 17,5 m (...) empty weight from 2800 kg to 3800 kg" and that means that there were almost no identical planes between 51 delivered to operational units! Sikorski's figters can be different too, especially in prototype stage, plane can be test-bed for different tailplanes and fins. Even in WWII there are similar problems with Soviet planes, which had multitude of sometimes very short series 'inside' of one type. Greetings Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 23:30:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Frankenmodeler: Modelist Morane G to Pfalz E.I REPRISE Message-ID: <20011022063009.76991.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> And the number of crosses on each sheet is enough to do many a/c! Todd --- Shane Weier wrote: > Rory > > > Are their any known 1/48 decal > > sheets with the > > early Pfalz-style fat, curvy Balkenkreuz? > > > > Damn. I looked at the catalog this time. I think you > need sheet 76, which is > 1916 style, curvy eiserne kreuze, larger aircraft. > A/G includes Pfalz E > types in the list of aircraft to which these are > suited. > > FWIW, they have SEVEN different sheets of various > size and styles of extra > curvy crosses! > > http://home.sprintmail.com/~tbittners/AG/index.html > > There ya go Matt - I'll save you posting it! > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:55:20 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Talking about Bristols Message-ID: <3BD32828.94FA99CB@dial.pipex.com> Steve Cox wrote: > I can't think of any British aircraft being finished with aluminium dope > until after the war > > Regards > Steve > Speculation with some of the Bristol M1cs, esp those at fighting schools in the UK. IIRC, without checking Robertson, there was silver/Al dope available late in the war at least, however my bet for those M1Cs is light blue (The DF suggests a mix of roundel ultramarine & white, which makes sense). And wasn't the 2F1 now at Lambeth also painted blue ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 01:34:33 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Alps Message-ID: <3BCDC6570006AFC7@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) After much procrastination I finally played with my ALPS printer tonight. It took a couple hours to figure out what i was doing, but I finally got it going. First up was a page of stuff for those floaty things as well as something OT for an upcoming IM build. Thanks to those who contributed to its purchase, and also who offered advice on 'tricking' it into printing white. Now to think of some OT stuff to do. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:49:11 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Talking about Bristols Message-ID: I haven't been paying attention, but weren't those RFC Nieuport 17's that Matt so dislikes, aluminium doped? Or was it another kind of silver paint? /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Fleming [mailto:dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: den 22 oktober 2001 08:53 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Talking about Bristols > > > Steve Cox wrote: > > > I can't think of any British aircraft being finished with > aluminium dope > > until after the war > > > > Regards > > Steve > > > > Speculation with some of the Bristol M1cs, esp those at > fighting schools in the > UK. IIRC, without checking Robertson, there was silver/Al > dope available late in > the war at least, however my bet for those M1Cs is light blue > (The DF suggests a > mix of roundel ultramarine & white, which makes sense). And > wasn't the 2F1 now at > Lambeth also painted blue ? > > Dave > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:51:27 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Talking about Bristols Message-ID: <3BD3EC1F.562C2F58@dial.pipex.com> Crawford Neil wrote: > I haven't been paying attention, but weren't those > RFC Nieuport 17's that Matt so dislikes, aluminium doped? > Or was it another kind of silver paint? > /Neil C. > Ah, but they were French built, not British. We painted the British built Nie17bis in proper PC-10 !! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:06:24 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: "ww1 list" Subject: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <003b01c15ae1$357228e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey! I haven't done too much on the modelling front this weekend, as I hit the roads yesterday because it was one of those rare sundays when isn't raining, flooding or any other catastrophe. I took a few tools and the two parts of a MAC Pfalz fuselage to thinnning while I was going to relax in the afternoon. Everything went OK, I got paper thin cockpit walls and I was quite pleased to myself. I put the parts carefully in my shirt pocket, and I was returning to my parked car, I ran into an old friend of mine who was so glad to see me after a long time that he gave me a BIG hug.... crunch! D. I didn't had the heart to complain, but.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:06:41 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Origin of Hat in the Ring Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: John Glaser [mailto:jglaser@accipitergroup.com] > Sent: den 22 oktober 2001 00:59 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Origin of Hat in the Ring > > > Picked up the new Schiffer book on the 94th Aero Squadron > yesterday and was > wondering about the origin of the Hat in the Ring insignia. > Did it signify > Uncle Sam tossing his "hat in the ring" by joining the > conflict or is there > another origin? A quick scan of the text didn't turn up any answers. > > TIA. > > - John > I found this in Eddy Rickenbackers memoirs over at the WTJ: When he discovered that our beloved squadron was to receive the distinction of being the first actually to begin fighting for America, the question of a significant and proper squadron insignia became of prime importance to us. We were busy those first days in Toul, painting our machines with the American Red, White and Blue, with our individual markings and with the last finishing touches which would prepare them for their first expedition over the lines. Then came the ideas for our insignia ! Major Huffer suggested Uncle Sam's Stovepipe Hat with the Stars-and-Stripes for a hatband. And our post Surgeon, Lieutenant Walters of Pittsburgh, Pa., raised a cheer by his inspiration of the " Hat-in-the-Ring." It was immediately adopted and the next day designs and drawings were made by Lieutenant John Wentworth of Chicago, which soon culminated in the adoption of the bold challenge painted on the sides of our fighting planes, which several scores of enemy airmen have since been unfortunate enough to dispute. Toul then saw the launching of America's first Fighting Squadron. And it was from this aerodrome that I won my first five victories in the following 30 days. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:07:45 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Talking about Bristols Message-ID: Ah I knew there was a trick somewhere! /Neil C. > > Ah, but they were French built, not British. We painted the British > built Nie17bis in proper PC-10 !! > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:10:20 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RE: Alps Message-ID: <00df01c15ae1$c29e9a00$0200a8c0@x.pl> You really did it? Hurray! But be carefull! Someday I'll ask you to make me 'X' and B 2455 numbers for Forder's Camel, that one which Linke-Crawford forced to land and captured on Feltre airfield of Flik 60/J! In 1/72, of course! Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:09:26 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: flatpfalz! Message-ID: You must tell us all the details, if it was a female friend, it might have been worth it! /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Diego Fernetti [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 22 oktober 2001 12:03 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] flatpfalz! > > > Hey! > I haven't done too much on the modelling front this weekend, > as I hit the > roads yesterday because it was one of those rare sundays when > isn't raining, > flooding or any other catastrophe. I took a few tools and the > two parts of a > MAC Pfalz fuselage to thinnning while I was going to relax in > the afternoon. > Everything went OK, I got paper thin cockpit walls and I was > quite pleased > to myself. I put the parts carefully in my shirt pocket, and > I was returning > to my parked car, I ran into an old friend of mine who was so > glad to see me > after a long time that he gave me a BIG hug.... > > crunch! > D. > I didn't had the heart to complain, but.... > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:15:51 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <00e701c15ae2$88093ca0$0200a8c0@x.pl> > I put the parts carefully in my shirt pocket, and I was returning > to my parked car, I ran into an old friend of mine who was so glad to see > me after a long time that he gave me a BIG hug.... > crunch! You're joking! (as always) If you want another Pfalz (I think D.III or D.IIIa) I can send you, MAC is about 10$ in Poland, and Roden about 6$. :-) G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:23:30 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: RE: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <004f01c15ae3$98b29140$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Well Neil... my female friends have learned long ago that hugging me isn't a good idea! :-) Unfortunately, the unsuspected hugger was one of those guys so nice that you can't tell them that they're done a damage without knowing. The pfalz has an easy fixing (there is a vertical crack from the cockpit hole to the wingroot). D. I have two or three female friends that I can allow to hug me even if I had my entire model collection in my pockets. Of course, don't tell this to W.! ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil > You must tell us all the details, if it was a female > friend, it might have been worth it! > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:24:48 -0300 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: Subject: re: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <005501c15ae3$c705b2c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Grzes! > You're joking! (as always) Not at all! 100% true > If you want another Pfalz (I think D.III or D.IIIa) I can send you, > MAC is about 10$ in Poland, and Roden about 6$. :-) No worries! I think I can fix it easily! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:21:28 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RE: flatpfalz! Message-ID: <00f601c15ae3$5074ea40$0200a8c0@x.pl> Now I understand! That terribly unprecise English gramma was invented by Argentinians to keep us unsure! (In Polish, and many others civilised languages you'll know from the first moment gender of 'friend') G. :-) > You must tell us all the details, if it was a female > friend, it might have been worth it! > /Neil C. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:25:37 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: flatpfalz! Message-ID: In fact it was the "terribly unprecise" brain of this reader who didn't read properly. Also my brain has a dirty imagination;-) /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Grzegorz Mazurowski [mailto:grzem@yahoo.com] > Sent: den 22 oktober 2001 12:22 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: flatpfalz! > > > Now I understand! That terribly unprecise English gramma was invented > by Argentinians to keep us unsure! (In Polish, and many others > civilised languages you'll know from the first moment gender of > 'friend') > G. > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3821 **********************