WWI Digest 3819 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Visiting the UK - was The Future is Clear, or Kleer by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 2) Re: New 1/35th Mk.V by GRBroman@aol.com 3) The Cost of R/C Electric by Ray Boorman 4) Re: New 1/35th Mk.V by "Matt Bittner" 5) For Sale by "Matt Bittner" 6) Pegasus Gunbus is out by "Nigel Rayner" 7) re: Fat balkenkreuze by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 8) Re: New 1/35th Mk.V by Rory Goodwin 9) For Sale update by "Matt Bittner" 10) re: Fat balkenkreuze by "diaphus" 11) WWI Modelers webring by Steve Cox 12) re: Fat balkenkreuze by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 13) Re: Belgian Aircraft Markings by Todd Hayes 14) Re: For Sale by Todd Hayes 15) Re: For Sale by "Matt Bittner" 16) Re: New 1/35th Mk.V by "Matt Bittner" 17) Nieuport 24 from Luedemann by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 18) Re: WWI Modelers webring by "Bob Pearson" 19) re: Fat balkenkreuze by Todd Hayes 20) re: Fat balkenkreuze by Shane Weier 21) Re: The Cost of R/C Electric:Safety note. by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 22) re: Fat balkenkreuze by Todd Hayes 23) DH4 by "Tom Plesha" 24) re: BM Nieuport11 Re: For Sale by Todd Hayes 25) re: Fat balkenkreuze by Shane Weier 26) Re: The Cost of R/C Electric:Safety note. by Ray Boorman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:04:13 +0200 (CEST) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: fraserinprague@volny.cz Subject: Visiting the UK - was The Future is Clear, or Kleer Message-ID: <200110201604.f9KG4C570933@mail-relay.eunet.no> Fraser, Could you give some feed-back on what you find during your pilgrimage, I am going to the UK Nationals two weeks from now and updated info is always useful when planning. My plans include "The Aviation Bookshop", Hannants and the RAF Museum on Thursday, FAA Museum on Friday and Telford on Saturday. Will bring both digital and SLR cameras, so if there is somebody on the list who has request for photos, let me know. Decided to leave Shuttleworth and Duxford for a visit where there is an airshow to attend on at least one of them. Eders Knut Erik Fraser wrote: >Thanks for the info guys, I'm off to Blighty for a week to do 'Vital >Research' - Hendon, Imp. War Museum,Yeovilton... >and buy a few things I can't get over the counter here - Aeroclub or Blue >Max Bf2 for one.My visa card is going into action. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:05:39 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New 1/35th Mk.V Message-ID: <166.2a09504.290308e3@aol.com> In a message dated 10/19/2001 8:18:11 PM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: > Just saw this on Tushino-Aviapress, a 1/35th Mk.V: > http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?OMF-3501 Ooooohhhhh, tank good. Glen want. ;) Matt, I tried to check on the status of the FT book last week when I was out east. No update, I couldn't catch the editor in his office. Well, soccer season is over, I'm back from a long trip to the East coast and may actually have time to sit down and build some models this weekend. I'm going to go the Butch O'Hare show in Chicago next month on 11 Nov (how's that for timing?), any one else planning on attending? Glen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:36:33 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: The Cost of R/C Electric Message-ID: <20011020174226.PRH13898.priv-edtnes04-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> A few weeks ago a thread was going on about the cost of RC. My curiosity was piqued by that thread and also the DVIII thread that the List Diety Allan posted. Until my son was born I used to fly RC, Glow 40 to 60 typically. I stopped because it was just taking up to much time at weekends. Typically a stint at the flying field would leave very little time free on a Saturday or Sunday. The cost was not such an issue since I already had most of the equipment I needed. (Two radios, 4 engines and after a winter building session at least 6 aircraft). However with a young family time was. Now come forward in time to now. I have been looking at the Electric in the park/ slow flyer aircraft. These are about .49 sized or smaller and can be flown in a gym of at your local baseball diamond or school playing field. They just need micro servos, speed control and BEC.Most models come with a 280 or 400 geared motor. I bought a Pico/Stick. This is a traditional Ugly stick shrunk down. Sticks look a bit like OT monoplanes (From a distance). In fact they usually are decorated with the infamous Iron Cross. Although I have never understood why most are covered in red. I mean have you ever seen a red Eindecker??? So far mine is built and has had some test glides to make sure every thing is straight and balanced, only took a couple of hours. I still have to break the battery and motor before I fly it for proper. I am amazed at how inexpensive these models are though. Since they are very light weight they tend to be more robust imho. The Model I have cost me $36, a flight pack (that included speed control, 2 micro servo's, BEC , 4 channel receiver and 270 Mah battery cost me another $80. I added a second battery for another $20. Add on to this a small trickle charger and field charger for under $50 (I didn't buy these since I already had a peak charger for my radios, and it allows packs up to 8 cells. Even if you buy the transmitter, you can be up and flying for about $300. Even better is the fact that I have an unpopulated at weekends school field about 2 minutes away with no power lines or people. Oh I forgot I also rejoined the MAAC so there is that cost too. (Don't ever fly RC without some form of insurance and checking whether you can on the chosen field). I don't know about anyone else but these small aircraft have brought RC much closer to a larger audience. Virtually no set up time, you can use much smaller areas to fly so you don't have to drive for an hour to get to a flying field and they are just much more civilised. Oh and there are lots of way off scale OT aircraft that can be built. Just thought I'd post my observations. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 12:58:39 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: New 1/35th Mk.V Message-ID: <200110201757.f9KHv0g07521@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:08:15 -0400 (EDT), GRBroman@aol.com wrote: > Ooooohhhhh, tank good. Glen want. ;) Matt, I tried to check on the status > of the FT book last week when I was out east. No update, I couldn't catch > the editor in his office. Gee...sounds like a half-cooked excuse to me. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:11:01 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: For Sale Message-ID: <200110201809.LAA04926@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Okay, I'm ready to sell them. Hmmm...maybe I should start a bidding war? ;-) I have the following Blue Max kits for sale: Nieuport 11 - $20 Junkers D.I - $50 Yea, the price on the last might be a little high, but I'm including postage in both. Plus if I went through ebay I bet I could make thousands of dollars . :-) So, first email to me gets whatever they want. It would be great to sell both to the same person, in which case I'll let both go for $60. I think that's a steal. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:23:24 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Pegasus Gunbus is out Message-ID: <000101c1599c$afe6e700$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Hi gang, Just an FYI in case nobody else has mentioned it already. The Peagsus Gunbus in Bittner scale is now available. Looks quite nice. Check out http://www.pegasusmodels.com/newspeg.html Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 21:36:18 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Fat balkenkreuze Message-ID: <00aa01c1599e$7ded67e0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Shane and Jack! Still looking for fat Balkenkreuze? See this: http://www.pegasusmodels.com/tgervol2.jpg Are they fat enough? G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:00:14 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New 1/35th Mk.V Message-ID: <3BD1D7CE.B1F0B6DB@earthlink.net> I'm assuming that you gents already have the Osprey book by Steven Zaloga on the FT as well as the Bellona booklet with 1/48 scale drawings.... Matt Bittner wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:08:15 -0400 (EDT), GRBroman@aol.com wrote: > > > Ooooohhhhh, tank good. Glen want. ;) Matt, I tried to check on the status > > of the FT book last week when I was out east. No update, I couldn't catch > > the editor in his office. > > Gee...sounds like a half-cooked excuse to me. > > ;-) > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 15:36:03 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: For Sale update Message-ID: <200110202034.NAA05071@swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net> The BM Nieuport 11 is spoken for. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:43:28 -0400 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: re: Fat balkenkreuze Message-ID: <003501c159a7$dfb24fa0$28652241@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:35 PM Subject: [WWI] re: Fat balkenkreuze > Shane and Jack! > Still looking for fat Balkenkreuze? > See this: > http://www.pegasusmodels.com/tgervol2.jpg > Are they fat enough? > G. > > Grzegorz, It lookes like a couple of those "fatties" might work! Is that a Bittner scale sheet? Is it available just as a sheet from Pegasus or does it come as the decal set for one of their kits? Thanks! Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 21:55:22 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: WW1 Mail List Subject: WWI Modelers webring Message-ID: I just had a browse around the webring, and there's only four sites on it now!! Where's everyone gone? Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:30:45 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Fat balkenkreuze Message-ID: <01b401c159ae$7ba9ed40$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi Myctophid! I think: Bittner scale (only good one) Available without model But all I know, I know from www.pegasusmodels.com You can check yourself, my friend (I think that ordinary decals are much easier to catch than lanternfishes :-) Are you ichtiologist, or just resemble one of Diaphus species ;-) ? Write me off-list about it! Warm greetings! Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:38:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Belgian Aircraft Markings Message-ID: <20011020213817.28638.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Eric, I plan on doing the ai with those markings. I'm a sucker for Belgian a/c. Todd --- ERIC HIGHT wrote: > todd, > there are belgum markings on the ai sheet. > eric > > > At 11:01 PM 10/19/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Guten Abend Y'all, > > > >Does anyone here know of any good Belgian markings > in > >1/48 other than the Blue Rider Nieuport 11/16 > decals > >and the Americals national markings sheet (both > >excellent, btw)? I see a few in 1/72. > > > >Todd > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > >http://personals.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:40:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: For Sale Message-ID: <20011020214022.36560.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Matt, How did YOU, of all listees, end up with two 1/48 BM kits? Keep them and sell the 1/72! Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > Okay, I'm ready to sell them. Hmmm...maybe I should > start a bidding > war? ;-) > > I have the following Blue Max kits for sale: > > Nieuport 11 - $20 > Junkers D.I - $50 > > Yea, the price on the last might be a little high, > but I'm including > postage in both. Plus if I went through ebay I bet > I could make > thousands of dollars . :-) > > So, first email to me gets whatever they want. It > would be great to > sell both to the same person, in which case I'll let > both go for $60. > I think that's a steal. ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:47:53 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: For Sale Message-ID: <200110202146.OAA20535@hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:42:44 -0400 (EDT), Todd Hayes wrote: > How did YOU, of all listees, end up with two 1/48 BM > kits? Keep them and sell the 1/72! This was about the time I built the DML Dr.I, and I *thought* I was going to move into 1/48th. Then the heavens opened, a god-like figure spoke to me, and I saw the light. And stopped thinking about 1/48th entirely as not worthy... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:52:11 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: New 1/35th Mk.V Message-ID: <200110202150.OAA03801@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:01:10 -0400 (EDT), Rory Goodwin wrote: > I'm assuming that you gents already have the Osprey book by Steven Zaloga on the > FT as well as the Bellona booklet with 1/48 scale drawings.... I definitely have the Osprey book and the Bellona. However, neither has interior details, and I want to add a complete interior to the Matchbox 1/76th kit . Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:55:46 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Nieuport 24 from Luedemann Message-ID: <01c601c159b1$fa099520$0200a8c0@x.pl> Do you know that? In correct, Bittner (and Grzegorz) scale! G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 15:29:27 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI Modelers webring Message-ID: <3BCDC657000558CC@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) We were all probably on xoom/nbci and got deleted Bob ---------- >From: Steve Cox >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] WWI Modelers webring >Date: Sat, Oct 20, 2001, 1:56 pm > > I just had a browse around the webring, and there's only four sites on it > now!! Where's everyone gone? > > > Steve > > > =========================================== > steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk > http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html > If I didn't spend so much time on line > ‹‹ I'd get some models finished > ================ > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Fat balkenkreuze Message-ID: <20011020230832.39758.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Guys, Americals offers all main the balkenkreuze including the fat crosses. Todd --- diaphus wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:35 PM > Subject: [WWI] re: Fat balkenkreuze > > > > Shane and Jack! > > Still looking for fat Balkenkreuze? > > See this: > > http://www.pegasusmodels.com/tgervol2.jpg > > Are they fat enough? > > G. > > > > > Grzegorz, > > It lookes like a couple of those "fatties" might > work! Is that a Bittner > scale sheet? Is it available just as a sheet from > Pegasus or does it come > as the decal set for one of their kits? > > Thanks! > > Jack Gartner > diaphus@tampabay.rr.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:03:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: re: Fat balkenkreuze Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD667@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Todd says: > Americals offers all main the balkenkreuze including > the fat crosses. Thanks mate. And thanks to Grzegorz too, regarding the Pegasus crosses. However........ While I'm appreciative, I'm not looking for decal crosses. I'm looking for photos of Jasta 11 Dr.1's which show crosses *other* than eiserne or fat balkan crosses. If I can't find *any* I feel comfortable assuming that the Weiss aircraft should have fat balkankreuze with a ratio of length to breadth on the arms of *about* 3.5:1 (as do most of the pics of other J.11 triplanes I've looked over so far) Buying crosses would be a waste of time. I need black, borderless crosses which I will easily be able to paint or cut from decal sheet. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:30:24 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Cost of R/C Electric:Safety note. Message-ID: <129.64eff70.29037120@aol.com> --part1_129.64eff70.29037120_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ray, I enjoyed your post on returning to R/C flying, it is a fun hobby and I can make it OT at the same time with my Fokker & soon I hope Electric DH.2. One thing I hope everyone will think about is with the influx of all these small park or school yard flyers is the fact that they fly using the same frequencies as those who fly at organized club flying fields, and if you fly within 3 miles of one such field you could cause an accident by flying on the same frequency as someone else at the field and possible hurting someone very badly by turning their aircraft into an unguided missile. I would urge you to join a club or be very sure that there are no flying fields within 3 miles of where you fly. There is a very good magazine available that covers many OT subjects and offers free plans in each months issue, many by a fellow named Peter Rake who does lots of WW-l subjects. This magazine is called Flying Scale Models, it's from the UK but my local R/C shop carries it so maybe you can check around to see if one of your does also. There's no web site that I know of but the email address inside the front cover is "modelactivity@btinternet.com" if you want to ask then questions about where to get copies of their Mag. Usual disclaimer, just a happy reader. Have some fun and try R/C it's cheap and challenging and to top it off it's OT to. Best regards, Jon --part1_129.64eff70.29037120_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ray, I enjoyed your post on returning to R/C flying, it is a fun hobby and I can make it OT at the same time with my Fokker & soon I hope Electric DH.2. One thing I hope everyone will think about is with the influx of all these small park or school yard flyers is the fact that they fly using the same frequencies as those who fly at organized club flying fields, and if you fly within 3 miles of one such field you could cause an accident by flying on the same frequency as someone else at the field and possible hurting someone very badly by turning their aircraft into an unguided missile. I would urge you to join a club or be very sure that there are no flying fields within 3 miles of where you fly. There is a very good magazine available that covers many OT subjects and offers free plans in each months issue, many by a fellow named Peter Rake who does lots of WW-l subjects. This magazine is called Flying Scale Models, it's from the UK but my local R/C shop carries it so maybe you can check around to see if one of your does also. There's no web site that I know of but the email address inside the front cover is "modelactivity@btinternet.com" if you want to ask then questions about where to get copies of their Mag. Usual disclaimer, just a happy reader. Have some fun and try R/C it's cheap and challenging and to top it off it's OT to.

Best regards,
Jon --part1_129.64eff70.29037120_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: Fat balkenkreuze Message-ID: <20011021004632.48982.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Shane, I thought it was odd that you were asking about crosses considering that you're probably very familiar with Americals. Maybe I should start at the beginning of a thread? Todd --- Shane Weier wrote: > Todd says: > > > > Americals offers all main the balkenkreuze > including > > the fat crosses. > > Thanks mate. And thanks to Grzegorz too, regarding > the Pegasus crosses. > > However........ > > While I'm appreciative, I'm not looking for decal > crosses. I'm looking for > photos of Jasta 11 Dr.1's which show crosses *other* > than eiserne or fat > balkan crosses. If I can't find *any* I feel > comfortable assuming that the > Weiss aircraft should have fat balkankreuze with a > ratio of length to > breadth on the arms of *about* 3.5:1 (as do most of > the pics of other J.11 > triplanes I've looked over so far) > > Buying crosses would be a waste of time. I need > black, borderless crosses > which I will easily be able to paint or cut from > decal sheet. > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:50:54 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: DH4 Message-ID: <000701c159ca$70d11120$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> FWIW If anyone is interested there is a AMT 1/48 DH-4 on e-bay. Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re: BM Nieuport11 Re: For Sale Message-ID: <20011021005401.29499.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> What did you think about the BM Nie.11 kit? I mean besides it's being a 1/48 kit. Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:42:44 -0400 (EDT), Todd Hayes > wrote: > > > How did YOU, of all listees, end up with two 1/48 > BM > > kits? Keep them and sell the 1/72! > > This was about the time I built the DML > Dr.I, and I *thought* > I was going to move into 1/48th. Then the heavens > opened, a god-like > figure spoke to me, and I saw the light. And > stopped thinking about > 1/48th entirely as not worthy... ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 11:26:08 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: re: Fat balkenkreuze Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD668@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Todd, > I thought it was odd that you were asking about > crosses considering that you're probably very familiar > with Americals. Maybe I should start at the beginning > of a thread? Yeah, I guessed that might have happened. It's something that is happening to me a lot lately. I've been a bit overwhelmed at work, and too idle to carry the laptop home, so I've often had backlogs of messages hundreds long - which means I "dip" when I have a moment and sometimes answer a query long answered, or get the entirely wrong idea of the way a discussion has developed. In any case - your and Grsegorz' annswers may not have helped *me* but I bet someone out there filed the info away at the back of his mind for another day. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:26:03 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: Re: The Cost of R/C Electric:Safety note. Message-ID: <20011021013157.MNCE13979.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Jon, You are entirely correct, in fact over the last year I had researched where the nearest clubs were. My problem is though the nearest is nearly an hour away or 20 miles. In fact thats been one of the reasons why I hadn't gone back to RC earlier. Yours is good advice there is nothing worse than being spoofed on a frequency, so anyone going to these schoolyard aircraft should do the research. you never know you might reveal a field just down the road!. Ray >frequencies as those who fly at organized club flying fields, and if >you fly ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3819 **********************