WWI Digest 3817 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Digicam back home by Steve Cox 2) Re: OT auctions by Steve Cox 3) Re: Talking about Bristols by Steve Cox 4) re:Another Fe2b question... by Sanjeev Hirve 5) Re: EE S. 16 by Steve Cox 6) paint qn by Sanjeev Hirve 7) Re: collection planning by "Muth and Zulick" 8) Re: paint qn by "Lance Krieg" 9) Re: EE S. 16 by "Michael Kendix" 10) RE: Cookups by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 11) German Aerial Cameras by "Steven Perry" 12) Away from the list by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 13) Re: Trainer cookup by "Lee M." 14) Re: Doughboys:How Many Left? by "Lee M." 15) Re: EE S. 16 by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 16) How I could I forget to tell you... by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 17) hi by popvr@21cn.com 18) Re: Semi-Gloss finish by "Matt Bittner" 19) Re: Doughboys:How Many Left? by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: Semi-Gloss finish by "Tom Plesha" 21) RE:Guitar Strings and other things by "Nigel Rayner" 22) RE: Final Ni.17 Question by Scottfking@aol.com 23) Re: Doughboys:How Many Left? by "Lee M." 24) RE: Final Ni.17 Question by "Lee M." 25) New 1/35th Mk.V by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:55:00 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Digicam back home Message-ID: Very nice Fookker, Steve, cowling and wheels look good Regards Steve C nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Steven Perry" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:19:52 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Digicam back home > > I have posted photos of my recently finished models at: > > http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/newmodels.htm > > My monitor is quite dim, I adjusted the brightness of the photos by guess & > by golly. Would someone kindly contact me off List at > sperry03@tampabay.rr.com amd LMK if they are too dark or light. > > TIA > sp > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:55:00 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: OT auctions Message-ID: Maybe, but he's one of those who thinks civilisation stops a the US border with Canada, and the rest of the world -what's that? Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Charles Hart > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 03:50:13 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] OT auctions > > Greetings All, > > Check out : > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1652288260 > > and follow the "Other Auctions" link. Many tasty items. > > Charles Hart > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:57:47 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Talking about Bristols Message-ID: I can't think of any British aircraft being finished with aluminium dope until after the war Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 04:36:38 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Talking about Bristols > > A few days ago Steven touched the question of Palestine based Bristol M.1Cs. > As far as I understand general consensus is that bottom surfaces of those > aircraft were light blue. But is this theory supported by any written > relation or documents? If the theory is based on photos only, the bottom > surfaces could be aluminum doped as well. > > Any clue? > > Tomasz > > P.S. Sorry if the topic has been already explained. I was kicked out of the > list twice recently and I have lost many threads. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:05:07 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: re:Another Fe2b question... Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C7C6@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Paul, Just curious... The bands are either warning markers, or they are protective fabric cover over the boom splice. If protective cover, why multiple stripes? why not a single sleeve? Also, is the fabric pre-coloured, or is it applied to the boom and then painted? If it is doped would it be clear dope or PC-10? I thought PC-10 was used only because of its colour, and did not offer any more protection than clear dope. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 19:07:09 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: EE S. 16 Message-ID: Is this the same kit as the DakoPlast do you know? Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Michael Kendix" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:13:59 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: EE S. 16 > > M錼ten: > > The Eastern Express Sikorsky S.16 has a number of things about it that you > might want to adjust. I built one about 2 years ago for Internet Modeler > but that issue is no longer on line. > > 1. It's a little small - I estimate it is in 1/81 scale. > 2. The horizontal tail is well off in shape and size - I made anew one using > the plans in the FMP S-16 book. > 3. The model is a mixture of different S-16 versions. I made mine as close > to an S-16ser as possible - I beleive I had to fill in the ailerons on the > lower wing. Mine was on skis. > 4. You have to sand things off a bit to get the fuselage gun to fit. > > That's all I can remember: after all, it's been over two years:). > > Best of luck. > > Michael > Michael > >> From: Tyllstr鰉 M錼ten@mustang.sr.unh.edu >> >> I磛 got struck by that "uggie-drive" so often mentioned on this list. >> Yesterday I took out my Eastern Express Sikorsky.XIV and began to put >> the parts togerther. The fuselage halves dont match so good aft the >> cockpit, Otherwise it looks OK. I have added some plastic-strips on >> the inside of the "pilotcompartment" just to try to bring som life into >> that area. However I have some doubts about the fin and rudder. That >> piece seem to be to small compared to the boxtops illustration. >> >> If someone have any information about the real thing I磀 be very glad. >> It磗 only the fin and rudder I磎 thinking of. >> >> One other thing is funny. The decals that came with the kit is for a >> Morane Solnier. That is easy to fix though. >> >> Br >> M錼ten >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________ >> M錼ten Tyllstr鰉 >> Volvo Trucks KMA >> Dept 29680, TLA. >> SE-405 08 Gothenburg, Sweden >> >> Telephone: +46 31 3213906 >> E-mail: marten.08.tyllstrom@volvo.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:09:09 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: paint qn Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C7C7@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> I finally got hold of some Agama paints (enamels). I find that it takes a long time to dry. After 12 hours the paint is still tacky. Curious about why some paints take longer to dry, and is there any thing I can do speed it up. (apart from the Steve Perry oven technique) regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:52:30 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: collection planning Message-ID: <001a01c158cf$35393260$0100005a@ptd.net> Another conflict is that I just > like certain aircraft, and often say, bugger the rules I'm > going to build another Spad. Ah yes, familiar with that "conflict". My solution is off topic Wildcat. Anyway, I don't think I have a real plan. Mostly that is because it takes me so long to finish one model that my interests change. Right now, I'm doing a Belgian Nieuport 11 and a Bristol Scout. Next up is Lothar's Triplane, since I just finished reading the new Osprey book on triplanes. Then again, after starting the Osprey book on SPAD VII aces, I'm thinking about SPADS. The other thing that always interferes with an orderly collection is getting some new decals. Right now, I'd have to say my only "plan" would be to build a lot of Belgian airplanes. I like the colors on the roundels, the basic color schemes are a little different, not just CDL or PC-10 and the planes are a varied lot....Nieuports, SPADS, Hanriots, etc. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:50:30 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: paint qn Message-ID: I have been very disappointed by Agama paints, which have presented a raft of problems, including the slow drying and an easily-damaged surface. Good color matches, though, IMHO. Anyone who contemplates the use of oils will benefit from a light-box, a simple wood or metal arrangement wherein a 60-watt bulb provides a steady, dry heat. Simple to construct using a hardware store lamp socket and cord, it will take about 10 minutes and cost $2.00. Before the safety fanatics work themselves into a frenzy, a few precautions: Make sure that your construction neither spontaneously ignites nor melts your project, and can be safely left alone overnight. Don't eat the light bulb when it burns out. It will dry artist's oils (and Agama enamels) overnight, and provides a dust-free place to store your project. FWIW Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 19:01:20 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: EE S. 16 Message-ID: The same except maybe in choice of skis versus wheels. >From: Steve Cox >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: EE S. 16 >Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:08:58 -0400 (EDT) > >Is this the same kit as the DakoPlast do you know? > >Regards >Steve > >nb >=========================================== >steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk >http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html > If I didn't spend so much time on line > 媼 I'd get some models finished > ================ > > > From: "Michael Kendix" > > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:13:59 -0400 (EDT) > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] Re: EE S. 16 > > > > M錼ten: > > > > The Eastern Express Sikorsky S.16 has a number of things about it that >you > > might want to adjust. I built one about 2 years ago for Internet >Modeler > > but that issue is no longer on line. > > > > 1. It's a little small - I estimate it is in 1/81 scale. > > 2. The horizontal tail is well off in shape and size - I made anew one >using > > the plans in the FMP S-16 book. > > 3. The model is a mixture of different S-16 versions. I made mine as >close > > to an S-16ser as possible - I beleive I had to fill in the ailerons on >the > > lower wing. Mine was on skis. > > 4. You have to sand things off a bit to get the fuselage gun to fit. > > > > That's all I can remember: after all, it's been over two years:). > > > > Best of luck. > > > > Michael > > Michael > > > >> From: Tyllstr鰉 M錼ten@mustang.sr.unh.edu > >> > >> I磛 got struck by that "uggie-drive" so often mentioned on this list. > >> Yesterday I took out my Eastern Express Sikorsky.XIV and began to put > >> the parts togerther. The fuselage halves dont match so good aft the > >> cockpit, Otherwise it looks OK. I have added some plastic-strips on > >> the inside of the "pilotcompartment" just to try to bring som life into > >> that area. However I have some doubts about the fin and rudder. That > >> piece seem to be to small compared to the boxtops illustration. > >> > >> If someone have any information about the real thing I磀 be very glad. > >> It磗 only the fin and rudder I磎 thinking of. > >> > >> One other thing is funny. The decals that came with the kit is for a > >> Morane Solnier. That is easy to fix though. > >> > >> Br > >> M錼ten > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _________________________________________________ > >> M錼ten Tyllstr鰉 > >> Volvo Trucks KMA > >> Dept 29680, TLA. > >> SE-405 08 Gothenburg, Sweden > >> > >> Telephone: +46 31 3213906 > >> E-mail: marten.08.tyllstrom@volvo.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:57:33 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Cookups Message-ID: <5F4636CE02C4D511B0D600065B04EA091FD40A@ITCREX002> The Sopwith cookup was supposed to have ended in June and we should already have started the next cookup, which ends in December. Unfortnuately, I think only two or three builds were submitted to the Sopwith page before NBCi (XOOM-or whatever) pulled the plug. Before we all go off on another cookup, we should strive to finish-out the Sopwith entries. I, too, think "trainers" is a little too unfocused. After all, just about any aircraft removed from front-line service became a trainer, n'est pas? Marc Flake ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:07:59 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: German Aerial Cameras Message-ID: <000901c158d1$5f0d4980$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> I have posted Stef's photos of German aerial cameras and a mobile darkroom at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/cameras.htm sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:05:11 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Away from the list Message-ID: <5F4636CE02C4D511B0D600065B04EA091FD40B@ITCREX002> Just in case anyone tries to contact me, I'll be out of contact with the web world until October 27. I'm on digest, so I don't think I'll need to unsubscribe. (Famous last words from someone about to be bounced due to a full e-mail box). Marc Flake (who will be taking a paper model kit of a 1/400 Zeppelin to cut and glue while on vacation.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:55:22 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Trainer cookup Message-ID: <3BD0852A.3EAE773B@x25.net> Try it as a JN-4-C. Major difference was the lack of downthrust on the engine mountings.. They were set at "zero" degrees to the center lines, Horizontal and Vertical. There was a very small difference in the tail skid mounting, but, when covered it was not visible. With luck we may have a flying JN-4 and a JN-4-C during the next 12 months or less. Correct engines and the whole bit. First time two Curtiss JN's will be airborne together in over 50 years. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx Muth and Zulick wrote: > > Well, after serious and judicious exchanges of mail amongst Monsieur > > Moorhouse et moi, we've arrived to the conclusion that a "International > > Trainer CookUp" may be the popular choice, > Great...a chance to build the SMER AVRO. Someone mentioned earlier they > were uncertain what machines the Germans used as trainers. I also wondered > the same thing. In the books I've read, I learned all about the French > penguins, Jennies, AVROs & Canucks (wasn't this the Canadian Jenny?) but > don't remember much about German trainers. > Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:09:16 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Doughboys:How Many Left? Message-ID: <3BD0886C.D76E4676@x25.net> Considering they may have entered the service before age 18 it is possible to have some who are near 100 still living. 2200 out of the million or so would be a lot remaining since the conflict lasted from 1914-18 overall the ages would still be about 90 Lee M.. Muth and Zulick wrote: > An article appeared in the local newspaper today about the few remaining > Doughboys. The estimate was that there are approximately 2,200 still living > in the US. The estimate was based on actuarial calculations from the 1990 > census. > A spokeswoman for the VA said "If you have an opportunity to talk with a WWI > vet, don't pass it up. It's part of our culture and society that we'll never > see again. It is absolutely critical to see these men and hear these stories > firsthand." > The article also indicates the term "doughboy" has a history almost as > controversial as Voss's cowling. Some trace it to Mexican-American War of > 1846-47. The terms could be a reference to the rice and flour mixture the > cooks prepared for the soldiers or a reference to how dusty the soldiers got > while marching in the American southwest. > Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 22:42:39 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: EE S. 16 Message-ID: <011f01c158de$9867ad80$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi friends! When dealing such obscure types, as many Russians (Ilia Muromiec, S.16 or Anatra) be carefull in definite statements. I think that no exact and 100% credible plans exists (exept those made from preserved planes like Anatra in Prague), and also we must remember that planes of the same types were often different - see Ilia Muromiec, which every plane was more or less unique, in both dimensions and equipment. As Boleslaw Gaczkowski writes in his Polish monography of IM airplane: "(six) planes from B series had the same wingspan, length, and wing area, but different weights, speed, range and engines"; "Planes from W series had span from 28.0 m to 30.87 m, length from 17,1 m to 17,5 m (...) empty weight from 2800 kg to 3800 kg" and that means that there were almost no identical planes between 51 delivered to operational units! Sikorski's figters can be different too, especially in prototype stage, plane can be test-bed for different tailplanes and fins. Even in WWII there are similar problems with Soviet planes, which had multitude of sometimes very short series 'inside' of one type. 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And then this Chucky-MvR gets killed or whatever, and the movie finishes. Of course I went to Internet Movie Database to see what kind of thing was that. And take a look at what I found! Revenge of the Red Baron (1994) Plot summary: Once he fought in the name of honor, now he will fight in the name of family. His glory days behind him, Grandpa Spencer appears doomed to sit in his wheelchair and watch his family come apart. But fate is not content to let this World War I Fighter Ace fade away. An ancient curse on the Spencer family threatens their very lives. The infamous Red Baron has returned to take revenge on the man who shot him down. Grandfather, grandson and daughter-in law must unite to fight the infamous Red Baron; because this time it's their last chance. Not to forget, Mickey Rooney plays Grandpa Spencer and Tobey Maguire plays Jimmy :-p No comments... 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Me too. Polly Scale flat is the best, IMHO. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 22:25:08 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Doughboys:How Many Left? Message-ID: Lee: I would guess the estimates are from actuarial life tables. Persons aged 90 would only have been 7 years old in 1918. Most of the survivors are over 97 and there probabl are about 2,000 remaining. I may visit Arlington on November 11 - I've been the past 2 years. Usually, the WW1 thing is in the early PM. Michael >From: "Lee M." >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Doughboys:How Many Left? >Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:05:25 -0400 (EDT) > >Considering they may have entered the service before age 18 it is possible >to >have some who are near 100 still living. 2200 out of the million or so >would be >a lot remaining since the conflict lasted from 1914-18 overall the ages >would >still be about 90 > >Lee M.. > >Muth and Zulick wrote: > > > An article appeared in the local newspaper today about the few remaining > > Doughboys. The estimate was that there are approximately 2,200 still >living > > in the US. The estimate was based on actuarial calculations from the >1990 > > census. > > A spokeswoman for the VA said "If you have an opportunity to talk with a >WWI > > vet, don't pass it up. It's part of our culture and society that we'll >never > > see again. It is absolutely critical to see these men and hear these >stories > > firsthand." > > The article also indicates the term "doughboy" has a history almost as > > controversial as Voss's cowling. Some trace it to Mexican-American War >of > > 1846-47. The terms could be a reference to the rice and flour mixture >the > > cooks prepared for the soldiers or a reference to how dusty the soldiers >got > > while marching in the American southwest. > > Mike Muth > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:56:25 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Semi-Gloss finish Message-ID: <001101c158f1$4819d660$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Thanks Lance & Matt, I'll try very soon! Later Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Semi-Gloss finish > On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:16:56 -0400 (EDT), Lance Krieg wrote: > > > Yep, I do it all the time and never had a problem. > > Me too. Polly Scale flat is the best, IMHO. > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:05:20 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE:Guitar Strings and other things Message-ID: <000001c158f2$86ca0140$983bedc1@w1o0t3> James aksed: >Maybe my guitar string was just a cheap one - has anyone else >noticed rust? I've only used guitar strings on one model but have been playing the guitar for over twenty years and have never had rust on strings except when they've got wet/mucky with sweat and/or blood and were not wiped clean after. I've never seen rust on a good quality string out of the packet. BTW to straighten strings (as someone else asked), I just leave them hanging from a shelf with a weight at one end for a while (at least a few days). I'm way behind on digests and am catching up - just wanted to compliment on more good stuff in the gallery. Sandy's Floh and Charlie's Voss tripe are very nice, and I really like Bob's treatment of the Nie 11. Excellent weathering and framing just showing through. I'm just finishing the Nie 17 and the 11 will be on on the list after that as it's such a lovely kit. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:25:11 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Final Ni.17 Question Message-ID: <95.12100edc.29021e67@aol.com> In a message dated 10/18/01 10:28:57 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Why the heck isn't there a cutaway (or series) showing how rotaries work on the site? This comes up about every six months. >> I think there is a cutaway drawing of a rotary engine in the book "Warplanes and Air Battles of WWI". I have the book someplace, will look later this weekend. Scott (Skippy) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 19:48:16 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Doughboys:How Many Left? Message-ID: <3BD0C9D0.68DD624A@x25.net> I have a very good "best " friend in he cemetary at the "OldSoldiers Home and he is named Steve Rusik. He died with his feet touching my helmet. Every time I think of it ... It touches my heart. One of the nicest people I have ever known... He came from Gross Pointe Shores, Michigan just 55 miles from my home at that time. I just counted from 1900. Knowing that makes every one over 90. My uncle , who learned to fly in WW I was a "Sgt" chauffeur for a General at Offutt in Omaha, and, he mentioned he would like to learn to fly. The General set him up for flight training, but, he never went over seas. He was born in 1896, and, he trained in Jennies. Bought one about 1928 and taught me to fly it before I was 9.. He got a Gosport device from some person he knew. He flew, from the rear, all of the instruments, were in the back. I had the front with a throttle, stick and rudder and a big fuel gauge on top of the cowling and a watch in the panel. I could not reach the the rudder correctly because of extra cushions on the seat so I could see out. He helped out on that. He passed away many years later in peace and quiet. Lee M. Michael Kendix wrote: > Lee: > > I would guess the estimates are from actuarial life tables. Persons aged 90 > would only have been 7 years old in 1918. Most of the survivors are over > 97 and there probabl are about 2,000 remaining. I may visit Arlington on > November 11 - I've been the past 2 years. Usually, the WW1 thing is in the > early PM. > > Michael > >From: "Lee M." > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: [WWI] Re: Doughboys:How Many Left? > >Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:05:25 -0400 (EDT) > > > >Considering they may have entered the service before age 18 it is possible > >to > >have some who are near 100 still living. 2200 out of the million or so > >would be > >a lot remaining since the conflict lasted from 1914-18 overall the ages > >would > >still be about 90 > > > >Lee M.. > > > >Muth and Zulick wrote: > > > > > An article appeared in the local newspaper today about the few remaining > > > Doughboys. The estimate was that there are approximately 2,200 still > >living > > > in the US. The estimate was based on actuarial calculations from the > >1990 > > > census. > > > A spokeswoman for the VA said "If you have an opportunity to talk with a > >WWI > > > vet, don't pass it up. It's part of our culture and society that we'll > >never > > > see again. It is absolutely critical to see these men and hear these > >stories > > > firsthand." > > > The article also indicates the term "doughboy" has a history almost as > > > controversial as Voss's cowling. Some trace it to Mexican-American War > >of > > > 1846-47. The terms could be a reference to the rice and flour mixture > >the > > > cooks prepared for the soldiers or a reference to how dusty the soldiers > >got > > > while marching in the American southwest. > > > Mike Muth > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 19:57:45 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Final Ni.17 Question Message-ID: <3BD0CC09.5E3E09F6@x25.net> That is one I missed out on but we have some manuals in the shop. I will look on Saturday next while I am at the picnic, I am sure I can borrow them for a scan or two. We shall see what comes up. I do not like to borrow more than one reference at a time. Some one may need one worse than I do. I live to far from the airfield, over 30 miles one way, so it may take a bit to get several engines scanned. Picnic is 15 miles north of Sequin, off I-10, 1.25 miles N. on FM 1104 starting at 9:00Am. Fly ins welcome, especially replicas, as well as drive in visitors. Sorry I do not have the GPS co-ordinates. If I get a new, easier, scanner one day I will donate mine to the "cause". They need one down there even more than I do. I may even try to use a digital to record some and see what comes up. Lee M. Scottfking@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/18/01 10:28:57 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: > > << Why the heck isn't there a cutaway (or series) showing how rotaries work on > the site? This comes up about every six months. >> > > I think there is a cutaway drawing of a rotary engine in the book "Warplanes > and Air Battles of WWI". I have the book someplace, will look later this > weekend. > > Scott (Skippy) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:18:33 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New 1/35th Mk.V Message-ID: <200110200116.SAA16463@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Just saw this on Tushino-Aviapress, a 1/35th Mk.V: http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?OMF-3501 I've never heard of the manufacturer "OMF". Plus it looks like it only comes with Russian/Soviet markings. Still, making it into a British machine shouldn't be too difficult. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3817 **********************