WWI Digest 3814 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Bristol 1Mc question by MAnde72343@aol.com 2) re: Today in history - The Italian front by "Lance Krieg" 3) speaking of cookups - Avro 504K by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 4) Bob's and Charlie's latest up-loads: by "Sandy Adam" 5) Re: Test Outlook 2K by "Matt Bittner" 6) Re: collection planning by "Matt Bittner" 7) Re: Roden Gothas - Hmmm by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 8) Re: speaking of cookups by Shane Weier 9) RE: Bob Laskodi's Nie.11 by "Laskodi" 10) Re: collection planning by "Pedro Soares" 11) Re: The Future is Clear, or Kleer by "Pedro Soares" 12) Re: New Roden Fokkers D.VII (OAW) by "Courtney Allen" 13) RE: Trainers was Re: speaking of cookups by Shane Weier 14) Semi-Gloss finish by "Tom Plesha" 15) Re: Matt Future by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 16) Re: collection planning by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 17) Re: collection planning by "Steven Perry" 18) Re: ISO: Nieuport Trainers by "Matt Bittner" 19) RE: Guitar string for rigging; was Re: Somewhat Urgent Help by Rory Goodwin 20) Re: The Future is Clear, or Kleer by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 21) Digicam back home by "Steven Perry" 22) Re: New Roden Fokkers D.VII (OAW) by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 23) Duh, ah I fergot by "Steven Perry" 24) RE: Guitar string for rigging; was Re: Somewhat Urgent by Shane Weier 25) RE: Final Ni.17 Question by Shane Weier 26) Fat balkenkreuze by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:45:27 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bristol 1Mc question Message-ID: This is probably late, I've been away for a couple of days, but the list photos have two very nice pics of the M1c cockpit, I have built the Bristol, it's nice, and can be built in a week or, if you're Uggie, one night. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:47:42 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: re: Today in history - The Italian front Message-ID: Grzegorz asks: "What Isonzo region looked like after all that battles?" Coincidentally, Thursday's "Wall Street Journal" has an article on the state of the Verdun battlefield today. Unreclaimed as toxic after the war, and eventually reforrested, it is full of relics, including uniforms bits, weapons, human remains and unexploded ordnance. I guess I need to add it to my list of "must sees"! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:58:51 +0200 (CEST) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: speaking of cookups - Avro 504K Message-ID: <200110182158.f9ILwo537029@mail-relay.eunet.no> Folks, I am catching up with Email after getting home from South Africa. (Found nothing OT, closest was flying in a chartered Convair Metropolitan) Like the idea on an Avro 504K cook-up, does someone have an idea as to how many countries this aircraft flew in during/after WW1? Think most list members should be able find one in the markings of his/her country - didn`t some that landed behind German lines receive crosses on top of the roundels? Was a bit disappointed with A-Models copy of the old Airfix, but should be OK with a Part set and some extra work. Made the Airfix one many years ago in Norwegian markings, should be possible to make a better one with proper rigging. One Dyak-engined Avro 504K survivor is hanging in a Norwegian museum, and I have reasonable photo coverage of it. >Marcio wrote >Count on me! I can build a Brazilian 504k! Someone else interested in going for Avro 504Ks of the world? > I'm assuming the Germans did not experience this because i > believe they were forced to trash all their AC after the war. > Did other parts of the world have "barnstormers" as in > America, or something similar? A number of German pilots brought their aircraft to Scandinavia after WW1 giving displays and trying to sell surplus equipment both to our armed forces and to civilians despite the Allied control comission ban on such sales. Göring went to Sweden and Ltn. Christensen flew seaplanes in Norway to mention two of the more famous names. Eders Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:50:28 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Bob's and Charlie's latest up-loads: Message-ID: <001d01c1581e$e89f4620$03e8b094@sandyada> Beautiful models both - I love the way everybody does wooden props in a different way and yet they all look like you could give em a spin and watch the engine burst into life! I'm with you on the olive cowling Charlie - but I'd also love to do a yellow one! Superb shading on the wings Bob. What terrific standards. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:54:58 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Test Outlook 2K Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:45:12 -0400 (EDT), David Fleming wrote: > Matt, in the message you are about to send, set Format - Plain Text I've tried that, unfortunately I don't have the amount of control over Outlook, since LAN admin thinks we're too stoopid. I did what you said, and see it still came through mime. Ah well, thanks anyhow. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:58:29 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: collection planning Message-ID: Okay, I'll bite. (No, Shane, I did *not* say *I* bite, stinker. :-) The only planning I do is to make sure I build a bunch of French aircraft. Everything else is pretty much off the cuff. FWIW, HTH and YMMV... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:46:38 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Gothas - Hmmm Message-ID: <3BCF5BCE.A131BF51@tac.com.au> Mark Shannon wrote: > > Anyway, I'm fighting this urge, myself. Next, everyone will hold out for a Gotha cook up. Isn't there a Gotha/Ursinus G.I kit from someone in 1/72nd scale? > Gothas would fit into the WW1 Giants cookup that was set up a while ago. It has a longer time span than the normal cookups to enable people to tackle their Gothas or Staakens not to mention R planes DH10s and 0/400's and the rest. Big Beasties even in 1/72 but fun just for the impact they make ;-) Mistress Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:03:37 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD653@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross, > ROFLMAO at Shane. Let me re-phrase the question. How many > kits have you > opened the box for, taken all the bits off the sprue, glued > and painted them > and then knew that there was nothing else to add to the model ?? Set aside the bizarre idea of removing all the parts from the sprue. I *never* use all the parts because there's always something I imagine I can do better. Then answer the question - Damned if I know. Hundreds probably. Recently? Err...... We get back to the odd notion of "finishing" > Do I get the feeling that Shane is having a lend of me. ;) Who? ME? Moi? Naaaah. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:10:20 -0700 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: RE: Bob Laskodi's Nie.11 Message-ID: <002901c1582a$0f70b580$423819d0@f4hn201> Thanks to all for your far too kind compliments on my Nie11. <<>> Matt is correct, Eduard did leave them off. I pondered what to do about this as there is an inconsistenancy in the DF drawings. They show some sort of cap on the side views, but for some reason they are mysteriously absent from the top views. I didn't know how many, or exact locations so I did what I usually do when deadline is rapidly approaching and I don't have time to research it, I ignored them! If someone has a drawing or a picture that clearly shows this I would be much indebted as that is an incredibly easy fix with a few punches of card! <<>> I'm not trying to brag here, but it is amazing how much you can get done when someone pays you and you have a deadline! Instant focus there. I only wish "my" builds got finished! I've been futzing around with an Albatros C.III (with the "right" dragondile markings!) for over 6 months (right Steve? it still looks the same as when you saw it!) and that is going at a glacial pace because I keep putting it down when a problem arises. When you have a deadline you just fix the problem and move forward. A great motivator. Thanks to all, -------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:25:03 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: collection planning Message-ID: <004701c15834$7f6120a0$2d7216d5@netcabo.pt> ----- Original Message ----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: [WWI] collection planning > Hi list! > Question: > How do you plan your collections (types of planes, but paint schemes > too)? I suppose that what works for me has more to do with aesthetical considerations than with the relative importance of the original aircrfat. i.e. if I like it I build it and I always try to find a scheme that i find aestheticaly appealing. This is not much of a problem with ww1 models and you can even throw into your display shelf a handfull of PC10 clad models and not risk creating a monotonous display since amidst the riot of colour of your collection the PC10 will even stand out as just another touch of difference. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:27:45 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: The Future is Clear, or Kleer Message-ID: <005101c15834$dff4f180$2d7216d5@netcabo.pt> ----- Original Message ----- From: fraser To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: The Future is Clear, or Kleer > Thanks Volker, Grzegorz, and Diego > Haven't checked Bauhaus yet, I shall however, as there's a lot more than one > these days! > Kbely has three galleries and A apparently houses aircraft from '18 to '39. > Do I take it that I should be haunting the tech museum then? I shall czech > it out soon.. > Regards, > Fraser > Fraser, the Tech Museum is a must. There are some pretty nice aircraft there, both ot and OT and the other galleries are also worth a good look. There's huge collection of photo cameras for instance that is quite nice too. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:24:38 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: New Roden Fokkers D.VII (OAW) Message-ID: <00a701c15834$70a9bb80$6457510c@worldnet.att.net> Squadron has them in-stock for $8.46 ea. http://www.squadron.com/New.htm Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: [WWI] New Roden Fokkers D.VII (OAW) > Hi! > On Roden site there are new 1/72 Fokkers D.VII (OAW) announced as > 'available' (two, early and late models). > See: > www.rodenplant.com > Roden has somewhat revised webpage, and also they show new, now > colorful boxarts for future releases of Albatros fighters! > BTW, OAW factory was placed in Schneidemuhl, which is now Pila > ('Saw') in Poland! > Grzegorz > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:23:38 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Trainers was Re: speaking of cookups Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD656@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mark asks: > Did other parts of the world have "barnstormers" as in > America, or something similar? They certainly did. My Grandmother, who died last year in her late 80's, had her *only* flight with what you'd call a barnstormer in a remote Queensland country town the mid 1920's The "barnstormer" in question was helping to support his fledgling airline, the Queensland and Northern Territories Aerial Service, now known by its acronym. > call it north american centricity if you want. > But I must confess that I do not have very much info on > trainers or post war aviation in other parts of the world. That's okay. I'd never *heard* of the Jenny until I'd been building WW1 models for over 10 years, and after 30 years of building WW1 models I still haven't built one. > Bleriots?? sounds like an awfully dangerous way to train pilots When you read the period literature they ALL sound like dangerous ways to train pilots! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:41:15 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Semi-Gloss finish Message-ID: <000d01c15836$c2aa3f20$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi All- Some paint questions: I have successfully used: Testors MM Flat, Gloss, Etc. over Aeromaster, Testor MM, paints, etc. The same with Aeromaster Top coats. Anyone ever try these and/or Poly-S top coats over Future? I'd like to tone down the gloss a bit. At this stage of construction I don't want to expiriment, I have done enough re-painting on the Pup I'm trying to wrap up. TIA Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:16:33 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Matt Future Message-ID: Thanks Ken, they're the pieces of information I was lacking. Now I can promise not to build anymore......er.....um.....er....DH2's........er....well maybe anyway..... :) Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. 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"Michael Kendix" To: Multiple recipients of list ail.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: [WWI] Re: collection planning wwi@wwi-model s.org 18/10/2001 10:30 PM Please respond to wwi >From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" >Hi list! >Question: >How do you plan your collections (types of planes, but paint schemes >too)? Grzegorz: Excellent question there! Possibly, almost as much fun can be had in planning as in the building. My planning has been enhanced significantly by the use of software such as "Microsoft Project" and learning to program in FORTRAN.Finally, I open my closet and whichever kit falls out onto my head - that's the next one! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. 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If you have received this email in error or have other concerns regarding this transmission, please contact the Department of Human Services System Administrator at Postmaster@dhs.vic.gov.au _________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:18:53 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: collection planning Message-ID: <005901c1583c$8dc58a20$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> I see something I like and I build it. When it's done I stick it in the case, (and be very nice to BvB for a while ;-) Not as simple as it sounds. The planning comes in preparation, I may build 1 or even 2 other models in order to learn techniques I will need for something I really like. I built the Curtiss N.9H out of 2 Jenny kits to practice constructing and rigging big old high aspect ratio, multi bay wings with barn door ailerons because I wanted to do it right in the I'lya. Lord knows how many models I built trying to learn to do CDL and plywood. For major projects, I build models I really like the look of when I imagine them finished. Lesser projects are determined by my need to practice modeling features common with a contemplated major project. The collection of finished models just happens on that basis. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:26:42 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: ISO: Nieuport Trainers Message-ID: <200110190125.SAA07643@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:39:09 -0400 (EDT), StefenK wrote: > I am trying to identify the Nieuport type in a photo of a two-seat trainer. > It obviously has the little cowl cheeks behind the cowl (not entirely > visible). Is this a Bebe, or something else? Or a 21? I am confused > about the morphology of the latter: Is it merely a 17 with a horse-shoe > cowl and the 80-hp Le Rhone, retaining the fuselage fairing (which appears > to be represented in Eduard's box art), or an 11 with 17 main planes or...? Besides the Nie.10 and Nie.12, another two seater to keep in mind is the Nie.14. Very obscure, but used in numbers. Unfortunately no one has kitted it yet. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:55:22 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Guitar string for rigging; was Re: Somewhat Urgent Help Message-ID: <3BCF8809.6BB930CB@earthlink.net> Ok, anyone have a FINE non-shiny wire that is straight or can be straightened and is close to 'looking' scale to 1/72 like smoked nylon sewing thread? Either my ham fists aren't up to it, or the DURAS method isn't as practical in Bittner scale. I had an ESCI SE5a fold up on me because the tiny holes catastrophically weakened the tiny struts, abd most strut ends of WWI ac are tapered. Graham Hunter wrote: > I have to say that I am a convert to Wonder Wire. You get it from Precision > Enterprises (ph. 802 885 3094). This stuff is great for 1/48 scale rigging. > It is ceramic and has a dark grey sheen. No need to paint, no worry of rust > and it is close in scale for most rigging (0.06 inch). It is alittle heavy > for 1/72nd but for 48 and bigger it is IMO the cats meow. Inexpensive too... > $6.95 for a 10 foot roll. > > Regards, Graham ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:28:55 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The Future is Clear, or Kleer Message-ID: <002e01c15845$d0813180$236e160a@CSP00> Fraser, you said > Kbely has three galleries and A apparently houses aircraft from '18 to > '39. I was in the A gallery in97 the lsat time, and at that time there were no OT airplanes in (beside what I think is a HB licence/follow on build in Czechoslovakia in the 20ies). But those (ot) displays of Aero's Letovs etc are superb - great restoration work, and the sheer mass of aircraft displayed is wonderful > Do I take it that I should be haunting the tech museum then? I shall czech > it out soon.. > Regards, > Fraser OT, the Technical Museum is superb. 4 aircraft to mention: - The (pre-war) Bleriot XI - The LWF V trainer (in a somewhat bad condition though, at least in 96/97) - The Knoller C II (restored, but they ruined the paint job after restoration - before it was the *only* suriviving original AH hand painted lozenge aircraft in the world - The Antatra Anasal (again the only survivor, IIRC) Also, the museum has a superb photo collection, but I'm not sure about the chances to access it as of today. Lots of photos published by Peter Grosz come from this collection, to give one example The museum exhibits may be found under http://www.ntm.cz/aexpozice.htm#doprava Speaking of Prague, I guess you're aware of the MPM shops in there. The biggest is (was) in the Myslikova, good selection. In a road parallel to the Myslikova, and maybe only 200 m away, there was a Bilek shop. Sold Part photoetches for incredibly low prices in my time (I paid around 100 Czech Coruna per set). And between the two shops is "U Fleku", easily the most famous beer garden/beer hall of the town. Finally, for some good model sources, there is Arturo Models in Slany, outside of Prague, behind Kladno (and therefore near the airport). He had a great selection of resins, including some of the Czechmaster resins (I understand he's one of the group of modellers responsible for these). One of them was the Phoenix A (Banfields Blue Bird), and it sold for something like US $ 4.- only... Arturo also is behind the Flashback editon of Eduard. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:20:48 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Digicam back home Message-ID: <000b01c15844$aacf0940$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> I have posted photos of my recently finished models at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/newmodels.htm My monitor is quite dim, I adjusted the brightness of the photos by guess & by golly. Would someone kindly contact me off List at sperry03@tampabay.rr.com amd LMK if they are too dark or light. TIA sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:54:22 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Roden Fokkers D.VII (OAW) Message-ID: <004201c15849$5bce7b00$236e160a@CSP00> Just had a look on these models on the Roden webpage, and found the markings supplied highly interesting: The early version not only supplies Udet's "DDN", but also the broomstick-marked machine of (IIRC) Jasta 13 - not sure about it this moment. Even better, the late version not only has Neckel's striped Jasta 6 machine, but also Blume's black/white Jasta 9 aircraft with the personal "B" marking, as well as Stark's Jasta 35 b "Li" and two more - one might be Hennrich's aircraft, but it's difficult to identify from the decals alone. Again, a great job Roden did on the decals - they seem to improve constantly in that field. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:46:08 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Duh, ah I fergot Message-ID: <00c301c15848$3532dd20$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> A few weeks back I had told someone I would mold them a shell for the HB D.I cun coffin. Sorry, but I slap forgot whom it was. Please give me a holler Off List so I can get you fixed up. TIA sp (I think I remember thats my name) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:23:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Guitar string for rigging; was Re: Somewhat Urgent Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD65E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Diego says: (of ceramic wire rigging) > Scott wrote: > > sometimes it shatters the end > > and the resulting piece is too short. > > try cutting with a nail clipper The manufacturers suggest rolling a blade across it. As a consequence of trying nail clippers I lost a few small pieces (1-2mm long) on the floor of my modelling area. It took a doctor with a scalpel and magnifier to find and remove one piece from my foot. I now follow the instructions *closely* OTOH I wouldn't be without it in my kit for rigging those difficult hidden places - and thank Mike Franklin for the roll he sent me to try about 5-6 years ago every time I need it. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:27:10 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Final Ni.17 Question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD65F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Lee says: > There is no intake valve in the rotary cylinder head. That > function is done by > the piston itself. There is a hole in the side wall of the > cylinder interior. > The gasses come up the external tube and enter when the > piston is not covering > the entry way. > > There is one valve on top of each cylinder and that is the > exhaust. Notice > there is only one pushrod. It is usually on the forward side > of the Rotary engine. This is only true of monosoupape rotaries AFAIK. The rest either have two rods (think Bentley rotaries on Snipes) or one which moves a rocker operating two valves. Why the heck isn't there a cutaway (or series) showing how rotaries work on the site? This comes up about every six months. Maybe we should all beg Mark to cut *into* his rotary as well as adding an aircraft around it. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:41:28 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Fat balkenkreuze Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD660@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hi all, I've been pottering along building the Eduard Dr.1 in between bouts of cursing the PE parts of my OT ship build (and the benefactor who gave them to me) I decided to build Weiss' Jasta 11 machine as shown in Albatros Pub's JG.1 book and the Osprey Dr.1 aces book - that is, Jasta 11 red cowl etc, with white upper wing and rear fuselage. I've been able to trim the white surrounds from the fuselage crosses provided to get the type of fatter than "official" crosses shown on both artists impressions BUT the kit wing crosses are the narrower official shape. Rats. The only photo I know of doesn't show the crosses at all, so it's only speculation anyway, but I *want* fat crosses UNLESS I get some evidence that they shouldn't be that way. However - the pics of J.11 aircraft which have the crosses converted to balkenkreuz almost all show fat crosses. My questions are - Is this entirely typical of J.11 ? Were they corrected later or not ? Are there any other pics of Weiss machine aside from the one in (Ah, either the JG.1 book or the Dr.1 special )? Sage advice anyone (other than Dicta Ira, which will rule if I don't get any hard evidence) Shane (PS. I don't HAVE and small fat balkenkreuze, only 1/48 ones. Grrrr) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3814 **********************