WWI Digest 3802 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: List down? by "Harris, Mack" 2) Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th by KarrArt@aol.com 3) RE: List down? by "dfernet0" 4) RE: List down? by Allan Wright 5) Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th by "dfernet0" 6) Re: HiTech Qn by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 7) wich IM? by "dfernet0" 8) Eau de Styrene by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 9) Welcome Fraser! by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 10) Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th by "fraser" 11) RE: Eau de Styrene by "dfernet0" 12) Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th by KarrArt@aol.com 13) RE: Eau de Styrene by "Lyle Lamboley" 14) RE: Old Plastic Observation by KarrArt@aol.com 15) fokker decals by "dfernet0" 16) Re: Pedro's new models by "Sandy Adam" 17) The 1-16 scale Salmson 2A2 by "Landon, James D" 18) Flying Circus Decals and Blue Rider, etc. by "Tom Plesha" 19) Re: wich IM? by Al Superczynski 20) RE: Old Plastic Observation by "Lee M." 21) Re: Mostly OT interest. by "Lee M." 22) re: Wanted - old Aurora kit by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 23) Re: Aging plastic by "Michael Kendix" 24) re: Ansaldo A-1 by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 25) Re: Ansaldo A-1 by "Alberto Casirati" 26) You Never Forget Your First by "Ken Acosta" 27) Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th by IRAtrumpet@aol.com 28) RE: You Never Forget Your First by Shane Weier 29) A Vimy in the mail by "cameron rile" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:53:12 -0500 From: "Harris, Mack" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: List down? Message-ID: Sorry, for the question. I was knocked off for the weekend and didn't receive my usual 50 to 200 emails upon returning to work and was feeling a little bit neglected. I just have to have that fix. Thanks Mack -----Original Message----- From: Allan Wright [mailto:aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 9:51 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: List down? no, everyone's building that's all > > Is the list down? > Mack > ============================================================================ === Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org ============================================================================ === ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:53:59 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th Message-ID: <113.61ba3ea.28fc5287@aol.com> In a message dated 10/15/01 1:26:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bpearson@rapidnet.net writes: << Dunno, but I did watch Relic Hunter this week .... Bob >> I once found a rusty Hot Wheels toy car buried with three Legos while digging out a particularly noxious and imperialistic plant. I'm still pondering the implications..... RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:01:15 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: List down? Message-ID: <008401c1558a$3ca0bf20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mĺrten wrote: > Maybe everybody is on their way home. Like me. lucky b***d! D. still 4 hours to take off! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:59:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: List down? Message-ID: <200110151459.KAA61388@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Lucky b***d! Still 6 hours to take off! > > Mĺrten wrote: > > Maybe everybody is on their way home. Like me. > > lucky b***d! > D. > still 4 hours to take off! > > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:06:22 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th Message-ID: <008e01c1558a$f3d42920$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Robert wrote: > I once found a rusty Hot Wheels toy car buried with three Legos while > digging out a particularly noxious and imperialistic plant. I'm still > pondering the implications..... Oh no Robert! You are under the doom of the ancient King Toyrus from Mattelia!!!! D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:01:22 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: HiTech Qn Message-ID: <63.27303f.28fc5442@aol.com> In a message dated 15/10/01 14:31:25 GMT Daylight Time, shirve@evincible.com writes: << How is the quality of HiTech kits in general, compared to say, Eduard or DML.>> Different ball game. Much mor complex than the main run of Eduard or BM and much more "mixed media" than either of those with heaps of etch in particular. I have the Br14, unbuilt (no surprize there then) but it does look awesome in the box. << Was the Br.14 OT or ot. >> Both, a bit like the F2b or the Dh4, but the kit is definitely OT. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:07:41 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "ww1 list" Subject: wich IM? Message-ID: <009601c1558b$23017e00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> On wich month of IM there was the article on the Hanriot HD3 written by Matt le Bittner? TIA D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:57:46 -0500 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Eau de Styrene Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A24907803EC9484@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> D wrote: >Oh! Is there a chance that Kenzo will make a perfume with this scent? >Certainly a close encounter with persons of the opposite sex can be even >more exciting for us modelers! ;-) Do you think it will sell? Maybe then I could affort to buy some more kits that I'd never get around to building. I need to build some more and post pictures to offset all the works of art going up lately, but my Uggie-drive seems to be broken. I will never have to fear D's finger chopper. Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:03:31 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Welcome Fraser! Message-ID: <002901c1559b$51d63850$5d1ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Hello, Fraser! I know I'm a bit late, Friday was a holiday here, but welcome from Brazil! With best regards Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf > Of fraser > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 2:37 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] > > > > Good Morning from a new recruit, > Does anyone have a contact adress for Martin Digmayer? I > gather he's a Czech > and I've seen pictures of his propellors. I'm living in > Prague at present > and would like a prop or two without having to get them sent > from the States > (long way for a prop to fly...from here to there and back again) > Thanks > Fraser > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:05:53 +0200 From: "fraser" To: Subject: Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th Message-ID: <000e01c15593$6182cc80$4add7ac3@fraserinprague> I wanted to be a paleontologist when I was a kid ... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th > Dunno, but I did watch Relic Hunter this week .... > > Bob > > ---------- > >From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard > > I am a professional photographer, but spent 5 years doing exclusively > > archaeological photography. Is there a trend here? > > N > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:14:21 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Eau de Styrene Message-ID: <00c901c15594$736368a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ken wrote: > Do you think it will sell? Certainly! Imagine this scene: Summer night, the moon shines on the lake, violin music fills the air.... you stroll out of the party at the Bratislava Embassy with the Comtesse de Blériot, who has eyes so sparkly as the champagne in her crystal cup. As you chat of nonsensical things, you get closer and closer. Romance is in the air. And then, smelling behind his small, white ear you can feel... the scent of a newly purchased kit! Wouldn't that be SWEEEEET? D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:42:22 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th Message-ID: <29.1c2faf4d.28fc6bee@aol.com> In a message dated 10/15/01 8:02:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: << > I once found a rusty Hot Wheels toy car buried with three Legos while > digging out a particularly noxious and imperialistic plant. I'm still > pondering the implications..... Oh no Robert! You are under the doom of the ancient King Toyrus from Mattelia!!!! D. >> Not as long as I wear my 1/24 Staaken amulet! RK....considering my next self-picked WW I painting subject while I wade through the other stuff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:44:30 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: RE: Eau de Styrene Message-ID: <002f01c15598$ae70c2e0$5cf3aec7@lylelamb> You are zee romantique.... Lyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Eau de Styrene > Ken wrote: > > Do you think it will sell? > > Certainly! > Imagine this scene: Summer night, the moon shines on the lake, violin music > fills the air.... you stroll out of the party at the Bratislava Embassy with > the Comtesse de Blériot, who has eyes so sparkly as the champagne in her > crystal cup. As you chat of nonsensical things, you get closer and closer. > Romance is in the air. And then, smelling behind his small, white ear you > can feel... the scent of a newly purchased kit! Wouldn't that be SWEEEEET? > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:47:27 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Old Plastic Observation Message-ID: <49.125b052f.28fc6d1f@aol.com> In a message dated 10/15/01 4:04:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: << I've found that old plasticard is very brittle, almost unusable. If converted into a model it seems to last better. I restored one of those Tamiya DH2's that had been on the shelf for about 25 years, and the plastic still seemed to be all right. /Neil C. >> For a cheap source of sheet styrene, I used to use those "for rent" and "for sale" signs available at many stores. Besides being cheap, they were easy to find, and sizes were good, thickness around .012"-.015". BUT- I have discovered that this stuff degrades pretty quickly into a brittle, crackly mess. Paint does protect it, and I'm still using up the leftover bits, but only for things like cockpit interior doodads. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:56:34 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "ww1 list" Subject: fokker decals Message-ID: <00dd01c1559a$589ea100$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> check this review! http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/scotts/decals/br237.htm Interesting how the Americal version can be the same and yet different from this, huh? D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:04:19 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Re: Pedro's new models Message-ID: <00e201c1559b$6f77d260$1be8b094@sandyada> Nice models Pedro - I especially like your wood effect propellors. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:33:37 -0600 From: "Landon, James D" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: The 1-16 scale Salmson 2A2 Message-ID: We interrupt our regularly scheduled program for an unsolicited announcement from an unsubscribed semi-listee. Message follows: (I just composed the following words for a friend who asked how my Salmson was coming along. I decided since I'd typed it up I may as well send a copy to the list.) For those of you who don't know who I am or what a Salmson is, see: http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Landon/index.html The answer is: slower than molasses in January. Working on the exterior of the fuselage and the exterior of the bottom wing panels. Hours and hours of sanding, puttying, sanding, applying sanding sealer, sanding, applying primer, seeing more defects, repeat process. And that was just to GET READY to apply rib cap strips on the wings! Now I'm doing the rib caps and plywood leading edge. I thought maybe I'd be done by Christmas, and I'm sure I will -- just don't know what year! Time flies when you're having fun, and I am DEFINITELY having fun, even though some of it is pure drudgery. I am starting to permanently install the cowling panels around the two cockpits, the coaming around the pilot's office, and the fairing behind the pilot's headrest. In addition to the hands-on part, there are lots of hours of research. Lately I've been researching World War One French 5 color camouflage, a project all in itself, which began by simply wondering exactly what the right colors would be for my model if I ever got far enough along to paint it. I exchange email with contacts all over the world. We send photos and reports back and forth and debate their interpretation. I even bought $30 worth of paints manufactured in Italy just to get a look at the colors because they are supposedly the right colors. Of course they're different from all other French WWI camo colors I've seen, so I still don't know what's "right". Now I'm waiting for supposedly authentic paint color chips from a friend in Texas who restores real WWI planes and builds authentic full size replicas for museums. He built the Nieuport 28 for the Champlin museum. He mixed the dope per the supposedly authentic recipes in Project Butterfly. Saturday I took portions of my unfinished model to the museum to get advice on structural details from the expert there. He gave the model a rave review and confirmed what I was doing with rib caps and plywood leading edge was right. I also took pictures of the color chips and WWI photos in a book about aircraft colors, brought in by a fellow volunteer. Of course the French WWI camo color chips are different from all other French WWI camo colors I've seen. I think I'll paint the whole damn thing flat black. To see the latest photos of the project, go to: http://communities.msn.com/Salmson2A2 The newest pix are in the lower right hand corner of the page. And if you haven't visited the site for a while, you might want to explore for other pix you haven't seen. Jim http://327367.coolbestbuy.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:41:02 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Flying Circus Decals and Blue Rider, etc. Message-ID: <000901c155a0$8f80dd40$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi All- There were a couple of posts about Eagle Strike Decals Flying Circus decal: FWIW I got these in 1/48: Part I: Only Albatros DIII/D.V PartII: Only Fokker D.VII Blue Rider Albatros D.III (Oef) color guide: Appears to be thorough and Squadron has them on sale. I am pleased with all three items. HTH Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:45:22 -0500 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: wich IM? Message-ID: >On wich month of IM there was the article on the Hanriot HD3 written by = Matt >le Bittner? April 2001: http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/april/aviation/Hanriot_HD3.htm -- Al http://apollo.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:06:00 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Old Plastic Observation Message-ID: <3BCB3397.E518D958@x25.net> Another source for plastic is the un-asked for Charge Cards that come in the mail. They seem to last quite well and most plastic cement works wonderfully well with them Lee M. New Braunfels, TX KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/15/01 4:04:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Neil.Crawford@volvo.com writes: > > << I've found that old plasticard is very brittle, almost > unusable. If converted into a model it seems to last better. > I restored one of those Tamiya DH2's that had been on the shelf > for about 25 years, and the plastic still seemed to be all right. > /Neil C. >> > > For a cheap source of sheet styrene, I used to use those "for rent" and "for > sale" signs available at many stores. Besides being cheap, they were easy to > find, and sizes were good, thickness around .012"-.015". BUT- I have > discovered that this stuff degrades pretty quickly into a brittle, crackly > mess. Paint does protect it, and I'm still using up the leftover bits, but > only for things like cockpit interior doodads. > RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:21:06 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org, Jim Landon Subject: Re: Mostly OT interest. Message-ID: <3BCB3722.93D4CFD4@x25.net> Be advised that the Vintage Aviation Historical Foundation is having their Fall 2001 event this coming Saturday, October 20th. This is a free event .... (Membership applications will be accepted. But-- not required.) This will be an informal fly-in and picnic event. Gates open at 9:00 AM and the event is over when the last guest goes home. Roger Freeman expects to be able to display the nearly completed 1918 Curtiss Jenny that has been under restoration in his shops. Hope to see everyone there! About 1.25 miles N of I -10 on Farm road 1104.. On the left hand side. As headed toward Kingsbury. If you reach there you went to far... Lee M. New Braunfels. Tx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:31:48 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Wanted - old Aurora kit Message-ID: <00d101c155b8$6b0026c0$0200a8c0@x.pl> > A friend of mine has all the old Aurora range of WW1 kits - except one. He > is looking for an unmade, original box (if possible) Fokker D.VIII. > I eagerly await your flood of offers. > David S I think that you'd better wait not for flood than for dust-storm. According to earlier statements of our list friends, all such old models have turned to dust long time ago! G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:31:47 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aging plastic Message-ID: >From: "dfernet0" >Neil revealed: > > Obvious isn't it, the true face of Michael Kendix is revealed! > >Ohhhhh!! AAAAAHHHHHHH!!! A "P" and a "5" and a "1"... Let me search in >my >"Nostradamus for Dummies" book... yes... Michael Kendix is the >antipope! >D. I leave the office for a day to a trend a conference and find myself the subject of a character assasination. It is true: i'm building a DH2. I have sanded out the cockpit/fusealge interior - had to re-charge the Dremmel batteries, there was so much plastic. Surely, Chris Gannon could save himself a few bob on plastic supplies if he used a semi-decent mold. As for the other thing: what I do in the privacy of my bedroom is my own beeswax!:) Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:47:49 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: re: Ansaldo A-1 Message-ID: <00e401c155ba$a8611fe0$0200a8c0@x.pl> From: Crawford Neil > You probably did write altitude, I'm a careless reader, sorry. You aren't, I wrote 'speed' instead 'altitude', for unknown reason (I was quoting Goworek's book, which clearly states 'altitude'). > But in fact losing altitude in a pylon turn is worse than losing > speed, it means you hit the ground, that's a bad thing in a race! Knowing that, you can simply come to pylon 3 meters higher than usual :-) I think that things are different with sport planes (which are used by expert pilots, well prepared and not exhausted, in ideal weather conditions) and normal frontline service, when pilot can be better or worse, weather changes, and also pilot can be in stress, exhausted and even sometimes wounded. That difference was clearly seen in Polikarpov I-16 case, which plane was inspired with Gee-Bee racer. It was very fast and manouverable, but also very much unstable and generally hard to control, which caused that in Spanish Civil War more I-16 were lost in crashes than in combat. > Seriously though isn't losing speed or altitude in a turn, very > much the same thing, you can always convert height to speed by > diving? I'm not very big specialist here (only about 20 hours on sailplanes), but I think that conversion of height into speed at least takes time, and if we are analysing specific moment of turn, it is not as easy as you wrote, because you might have no time to regain height, if you just had hit the ground. (sorry for possibly bad language, that grammar construction is so complex). Greetings Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:40:16 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Cc: "Museo Storico" Subject: Re: Ansaldo A-1 Message-ID: <004001c155bb$97f44d20$aee422d4@s> Caro Diego, Thanks for your interest in our Ansaldo A-1 restoration project. As for the present status of it, one of the most brilliant results we had so far is the successful restoration of the wheels. Spoked wheels were easy to contend with but the original tyres were another matter. Patience (a lot of it !) and liquid glycerine made the tyres a little flxible again and allowed for the replacement of the original inner air chamber, so that the tyres have now regained their original rounded section. Applications of liquid rubber will make their external surface more resistant. Of course, the tyres are not able to sustain the aircraft's weight any more ! Wings are being patiently restored, while tailplanes are already restored and newly covered. The engine is done and its very good conditions could make a running test a welcome possibility.... All the very best, Alberto Casirati Honorary Keeper - Aviation Section Bergamo Museum of History www.museostoricobg.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:26:32 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Subject: You Never Forget Your First Message-ID: This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_7E2483B2.0E6F284F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline All- It is with much gratitude and humility that I announce the completion of = my first OT modeling project. The Eduard 1/48 Nieuport 17 "Profi-Pack" = proved to be a VERY worthwhile foe; challenging enough to stretch my = skills but tame enough to ensure success. I had hoped to continue taking = in-process photos to document each major step, but by the time I got = around to attaching the top wing, the October 20 deadline for the local = Huntsville contest loomed so large that I decided to focus all of my time = and effort on completing the project. I was able to snap some photos of = the completed model and should have them posted before too long. The folks on this List have been immeasurably helpful in guiding me = through this project and I owe you many thanks. I can't tell you how much = I've learned and how my bag of modeling tricks has grown. There is hardly = a single original idea or technique on this model that came from me. Matt = helped me chase down several good references; Lance sent me plans for his = terrific allignment jig that made upper wing attachment a breeze and he = provided many tips throughout the project; I used sp's styrofoam jig idea = for aligning and assembling that spindly landing gear; Tomasz loaned me = his wonderful technique for painting wooden props; several provided tips = for painting and tightening monofilament rigging line..... The list goes = on, but these are just some of the names that pop to mind right now. = Thanks again. Due primarily to this assistance, I was able to put the finishing touches = on the model this Saturday, a full week before the contest. The model is = now sitting in a hermetically sealed room surrounded by a perimiter of = police "DO NOT CROSS" crime scene tape to prevent anyone from breathing on = it until after the contest. ;-) The model turned out OK IMHO, but I'll = await the input from contest judges this weekend and from Listees after = pics are posted before I conclude as to its actual merit. Please do not = spare the constructive criticism! Anyhoo, You folks are the best! I have always admired your work, but now = I have a genuine appreciation for the level of effort and attention to = detail that OT models require. Thanks for everything!! (Now where did = I put that Aeroclub Fee?) KA --=_7E2483B2.0E6F284F Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TEXT.htm"
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It is with much gratitude and humility that I announce the completion of my first OT modeling project.  The Eduard 1/48 Nieuport 17 "Profi-Pack" proved to be a VERY worthwhile foe; challenging enough to stretch my skills but tame enough to ensure success.  I had hoped to continue taking in-process photos to document each major step, but by the time I got around to attaching the top wing, the October 20 deadline for the local Huntsville contest loomed so large that I decided to focus all of my time and effort on completing the project.  I was able to snap some photos of the completed model and should have them posted before too long.
 
The folks on this List have been immeasurably helpful in guiding me through this project and I owe you many thanks.  I can't tell you how much I've learned and how my bag of modeling tricks has grown.  There is hardly a single original idea or technique on this model that came from me.  Matt helped me chase down several good references; Lance sent me plans for his terrific allignment jig that made upper wing attachment a breeze and he provided many tips throughout the project; I used sp's styrofoam jig idea for aligning and assembling that spindly landing gear; Tomasz loaned me his wonderful technique for painting wooden props; several provided tips for painting and tightening monofilament rigging line.....  The list goes on, but these are just some of the names that pop to mind right now.  Thanks again.
 
Due primarily to this assistance, I was able to put the finishing touches on the model this Saturday, a full week before the contest.  The model is now sitting in a hermetically sealed room surrounded by a perimiter of police "DO NOT CROSS" crime scene tape to prevent anyone from breathing on it until after the contest. ;-)  The model turned out OK IMHO, but I'll await the input from contest judges this weekend and from Listees after pics are posted before I conclude as to its actual merit.  Please do not spare the constructive criticism!
 
Anyhoo, You folks are the best!  I have always admired your work, but now I have a genuine appreciation for the level of effort and attention to detail that OT models require.  Thanks for everything!!     (Now where did I put that Aeroclub Fee?)
KA
--=_7E2483B2.0E6F284F-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:29:14 EDT From: IRAtrumpet@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Archaeologists (was Ansaldo A-1 - Was Re: The 8th Message-ID: Hi kids! I had a summer job helping remove old driveways and sidewalks way back when. I used to find old wheat pennies and silver dimes, but I was most fascinated with the antique marbles I found. (And I haven't lost 'em yet! ;^) ) OT content: Hey, I dug through and categorized the photos in the Ferko collection. Does that qualify me? Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:47:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: You Never Forget Your First Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD61F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ken, > It is with much gratitude and humility that I announce the > completion of = > my first OT modeling project. (snip the sort of post that makes this list a pleasure to read) Congrats mate. There's *nothing* us old addicts appreciate more than seeing the pleasure taht first hit gives a relative newcomer. Quite reminds *me* of my first...... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:55:14 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: A Vimy in the mail Message-ID: Got a package today which included the Eastern Express Vimy. Gregorz is right, it is nice kit. There is some more flash than usual on the sprues for EE but it is thin and isnt anywhere where chopping it off will ruin detail. It is big for 1:72, the ailerons are as big as the moranes wing. There are also a lot of parts. The ribbing on the top of the surfaces is very harsh but on the underneath it is soft and muted. There are sink hole s on the undersides of the wings like the older kits have, there is also some pinholes around the place but no real huge errors that arent fillable or removable. On the whole it is about the normal quality that would be expected from Eastern Express, which is pretty good for the price. I think this cost $12 USD. The Osprey US Aces and Spad VII aces books also came in the package. The Spad VII book is excellent, i think I will join Matt and Neil in wanting a 1:72 Spad VII with cool French, Italian, Belgian, Russian and American decals. (especially Fulco Ruffo di Calabria's Spad! ) I was a little disappointed in the US Aces book, since a lot of young Americans joined up with whoever would have them many years before their country declared hostilities I was expecting a rich array of photos and profiles of Americans and their planes in French, British and American services. The profiles suggested that richness, but the photos didnt. Some of the photos were stalwarts that get printed in 80% of WWI Coffee table books and there were several photos that had dubious relationship to American aces, like the 22 Sqn Bristols aircrew getting their pocket emptied. The photos are a bit generic and dont do the American contribution justice. It certainly leaves the way open for an American Aviation Historian to write a book on American Aviation achievements in WWI and fully show off that richness in text, photos and profiles. Hopefully one will be written soon. I will be buying. The Osprey is still a good introduction, just the photos are a bit dissappointing. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3802 **********************