WWI Digest 3799 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: OTF seminar by "David Watts" 2) Re: old plastic questions by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 3) Re: old plastic questions by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 4) Re: old plastic questions by "Tom Solinski" 5) Re: Polish Albatros by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 6) D.I finished by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 7) Yet another by "Matt Bittner" 8) Re: Ansaldo A-1 (Was Re: The 8th Isonzo Battle (was Re: Today in by Rory Goodwin 9) Re: D.I finished by Rory Goodwin 10) Re: old plastic questions by Rory Goodwin 11) Re: old plastic questions by KarrArt@aol.com 12) RE: Drawing of Aviatik needed by =?iso-8859-1?B?TWFydO1uIEjpY3RvciBBRkZMSVRUTyBFQ0hBR/xF?= 13) RE: Squadron Mail Oredr's "Kit of the Year" for 2002 by IRAtrumpet@aol.com 14) Re: old plastic questions by Ray Boorman 15) Bristol F2b by "fraser" 16) Re: Yet another by "Pedro Soares" 17) Sacramento bound by Dennis Ugulano 18) Re: Bristol F2b by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 19) Odp: Re: old plastic questions by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 20) RE: Sacramento bound by =?iso-8859-1?B?TWFydO1uIEjpY3RvciBBRkZMSVRUTyBFQ0hBR/xF?= 21) Re: Ansaldo A-1 (Was Re: The 8th Isonzo Battle by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 22) RE: Squadron Mail Oredr's "Kit of the Year" for 2002 by "Michael Kendix" 23) Pedro's new models by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 24) Sacramento bound by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= 25) ×Éѯ´ð¸´ by "Õž²" 26) Novas Maquettas de Pedro by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= 27) Re: Bristol F2b by "Patrick Gilmore" 28) Re: Odp: Re: old plastic questions by Karen Rychlewski 29) OT book alert: CLERGET PATENT ENGINES by "Gaston Graf" 30) Re: Ansaldo A-1 (Was Re: The 8th Isonzo Battle by Rory Goodwin 31) RE: Drawing of Aviatik needed by "Hans Trauner" 32) Oscar by "Steven Perry" 33) The 8th Isonzo Battle by "Neil Crawford" 34) Catching up by "Steven Perry" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:39:55 -0500 From: "David Watts" To: Subject: RE: OTF seminar Message-ID: Hi guys, Sorry for the delay on this, been on vacation for a couple of weeks. The GWAA fly-in event will be September 12th - 14th, 2003, at the Air Force Museum in Dayton. Best, Dave W. Well in 2000 it was the end of September beginning of October. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 09:57:33 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old plastic questions Message-ID: <3BC8D4ED.43E9D67B@tac.com.au> Tom Solinski wrote: > > However, like modern polisulfide paints are used on metal aircaft to prevent > corrosion on the outer surface by forming an air tight barrier, I would > imagine that our paints actually benefit the plastic by keeping the oils in > > Just a thought. So if we want to look after our models we'd better build them then? (Screams from all the kit collecters in the background ;-) ) Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 20:41:51 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: old plastic questions Message-ID: In a message dated Sat, 13 Oct 2001 8:01:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Shane & Lorna Jenkins writes: > So if we want to look after our models we'd better build them then? > (Screams from all the kit collecters in the background ;-) ) > > Lorna S c r e a m m m m m!!! What? Build them!? Reduce potential masterpieces to pathetic might-have-beens? Bite your tongue! Years of aging cannot do to plastic what I can accomplish in ten minutes. . . without really trying! :-)) Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:48:54 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: old plastic questions Message-ID: <002c01c1544a$002c4960$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> > S c r e a m m m m m!!! What? Build them!? Reduce potential masterpieces to pathetic might-have-beens? Bite your tongue! Years of aging cannot do to plastic what I can accomplish in ten minutes. . . without really trying! :-)) Spoken like a TRUE kit collector!! Well I guess I'll head out to the shop and build my Aurora ot F-108 before it corrodes :-) T.S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 03:40:48 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Polish Albatros Message-ID: <009201c15451$41234840$0200a8c0@x.pl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Rory Goodwin > Pardon my lack of correct terms. I must admit that I'm vaguely familiar > with that period of Polish history only because some brash Americans were > involved. Thanks for the history lesson. Have you already read > 'November 1918' by Janusz Zarnowski? Its an overview of Polish history > from end of WWI. Let me know. No, I haven't, I don't know this book. About that Americans maybe I can find some additional info for you. Cheers! G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 03:46:01 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: D.I finished Message-ID: <00a001c15451$fb733480$0200a8c0@x.pl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry > Markings are Eizern Kruze as shown on the drawings that came with the kit. > No markings were visible in the photo. Do you know this? http://204.83.160.230/archive/a/images/fokkerd1.jpg Greetings G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 21:48:17 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Yet another Message-ID: <200110140246.TAA23890@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Just uploaded two new models from Pedro. Excellent! Welcome back, Pedro! Keep up the wondrous work. Matt Bittner WW1 Site Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:50:53 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ansaldo A-1 (Was Re: The 8th Isonzo Battle (was Re: Today in Message-ID: <3BC8FD8D.450C1F9@earthlink.net> Grzegorz, No need to research theYanks in the Polish-Soviet war; I own one of the best (and only) references which I mentioned in the first e-mail (Karolevitz and Fenn's 'Flight of Eagles). Alberto, What reference is Corsi's engagement with the D.VIIs in? > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:55:18 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: D.I finished Message-ID: <3BC8FE96.4B026340@earthlink.net> Which vac? Classicplane or ? Steven Perry wrote: > Having achieved near-Uggiedrive speed, I finished my little Fokker D.I vac > yesterday after 5 days work. > > The only problem was the fuselage being too short by a shade over a quarter > inch. This was easily fixed with card & CA. I used a metal aftermarket > engine and ear radiators (Thanks Dennis). The one clear photo I have shows > ear radiators, so I replaced the kit pieces with the metal. The U/C was > scratched from very fine bamboo strips and is quite scale-like in size and > surprisingly strong. I replaced the kit wheels with with Photo-Cut spoked > wheels. This really makes the model. I didn't do anything to the interior > but paint the inside and draw in structure. The kit seat cleaned up well and > fills the rather tiny cockpit hole, so the model doesn't suffer from lack of > interior detail. > > The Fokker swirlled cowl was my first attempt. I used rub & Buff for a base > and then painted the swirls with black tinted aluminum paint. This was too > contrasty so I painted several coats of highly Future thinned aluminum paint > over the cowl to tone it down some. Not exactly what I had in mind, but > acceptable. > > Markings are Eizern Kruze as shown on the drawings that came with the kit. > No markings were visible in the photo. I am assuming this photo was a > factory shot of the prototype as AHF was standing in front. Lacking other > references I opened the Dicta Ira valve and moved smothly into uggiedrive. I > decided to claim the markings and gun I added had been added to the machine > for trials after the photo and this is configuration the model represented. > Thats my story and I'm sticking to it, D.I. > > This was a nice little vac and a fun and easy build. The aircraft is > interesting looking as it has very Halberstadt-like 2-bay wings and knife > edge fuselage with a MoS type elevator. It has the typocal Fokkerly comma > shape rudder and very Albatros looking raked wingtips and inline engine. > Holding it up and viewing it from various angles it's like it morphs from > Halb to Fokker to Alb and back again. A quick, fun build resulting in a nice > addition to the collection. Yes folks, the rumors are confirmed...Uggieitis > is indeed contagious. > sp > Photos if and when the digicam gets sprung from the hock shop. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 20:05:16 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old plastic questions Message-ID: <3BC900EC.8FC624CB@earthlink.net> Well, since collectors never do anything with the actual pieces, perhaps a box of authentic, original plastic dust will be just as good to them as say, the fragmentary tablets of the Ten Commandments in the Ark of the Covenent were to the ancient Hebrews. Bad analogy perhaps, but what do you expect from an archaeologist :-) Yours, Darius Shane & Lorna Jenkins wrote: > Tom Solinski wrote: > > > > However, like modern polisulfide paints are used on metal aircaft to prevent > > corrosion on the outer surface by forming an air tight barrier, I would > > imagine that our paints actually benefit the plastic by keeping the oils in > > > > Just a thought. > > So if we want to look after our models we'd better build them then? > (Screams from all the kit collecters in the background ;-) ) > > Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 23:13:20 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: old plastic questions Message-ID: <66.15bb76de.28fa5cd0@aol.com> In a message dated 10/13/01 8:04:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rorygood@earthlink.net writes: << Well, since collectors never do anything with the actual pieces, perhaps a box of authentic, original plastic dust will be just as good to them as say, the fragmentary tablets of the Ten Commandments in the Ark of the Covenent were to the ancient Hebrews. Bad analogy perhaps, but what do you expect from an archaeologist :-) Yours, Darius >> Those crumbling, crystalizing 5" gun turrets from that destroyer kit DO kind of look like ancient teeth or small toe bones.....maybe from some Celtic chieftan........or Sumerian party girl. It could be that those folks who make models from dental resin are on the right road. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:40:11 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?TWFydO1uIEjpY3RvciBBRkZMSVRUTyBFQ0hBR/xF?= To: Subject: RE: Drawing of Aviatik needed Message-ID: <007101c153fd$58d6fbc0$b70de818@fibertel.com.ar> Hans Excuse me my ignorence the Aviatic P14(1913) is = Aviatic BI ? Martín ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Trauner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: [WWI] Drawing of Aviatik needed > Ladies and Gentlemen, > for a project in our small german WWI newsletter Propellerblatt I need a > drawing / sideview of an Aviatik B.I . The larger, the better. I will *not* > violate any copyright, as I want to make a full coloured Aviatik as a > complete new drawing, but I need something for a basis. > > Any help is appreciated. > > Hans > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 01:42:05 EDT From: IRAtrumpet@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Squadron Mail Oredr's "Kit of the Year" for 2002 Message-ID: Hi kids! As a former MMD employee (True Details 'pits), I can say there are no dedecated admen there, and it is not a complicated process naming a kit of the year. I fought long and hard for the 1/48 Eduard Albatros D.V/Va when I was there, and they named the Accurate Miniatures Yak. Reason? WWII single seaters in 1/48 outsell everything else they handle. Why WWI this year and an airliner last? Don't know. But I agree with Steve--it can't be too bad for us WWI types, and I ain't knockin' it! And trust me, if they have the kit, they sell it. They will not hold off a chance to make money. That's why they are there. Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 22:54:43 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: Re: old plastic questions Message-ID: <20011014060035.HRJA1305.priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 23:04:12 -0400 (EDT), Rory Goodwin wrote: >Well, since collectors never do anything with the actual pieces, >perhaps a box of >authentic, original plastic dust will be just as good to them as >say, the >fragmentary tablets of the Ten Commandments in the Ark of the >Covenent were to the >ancient Hebrews. Bad analogy perhaps, but what do you expect from an >archaeologist >:-) If thats the case then kit collectors are the priests protecting the tombs, therefore we are the grave robbers. ;0) Just leave some dust behind in case anyone ever opens the box. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 05:16:53 +0200 From: "fraser" To: Subject: Bristol F2b Message-ID: <000301c15480$0c160000$0edc7ac3@fraserinprague> Hi, Has anyone built the Brisfit from Blue Max in 1/48th? I'm back in the UK week after next and plan on picking one up along with a Snipe. Their stuff looks superb when built. I've heard wing ripple mentioned is it a big prob? Cheers Fraser ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 09:13:11 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Yet another Message-ID: <003101c15488$10f10180$2d7216d5@netcabo.pt> thanks, friend, Um abraço Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: [WWI] Yet another > Just uploaded two new models from Pedro. Excellent! Welcome back, > Pedro! Keep up the wondrous work. > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Site Assistant Editor > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 07:36:39 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Sacramento bound Message-ID: <200110140736_MC3-E336-A103@compuserve.com> Good Morning all, It's just short of 4:30am here is soon to be sunny California (It's dark out right now) I just hit the button for the coffee pot and in about 20 minutes we will head for Sacramento. The collection is packed, some ot kits have been set aside for the Silver Wings raffle and my visor and tools are at the ready. Never can tell if I have to build another kit for a little guy while I'm there. Of course I will peruse the vendor's area for that one kit I don't have. (I don't have a clue what that kit is because lord knows I don't need any more kits.) The Pegasus Taube will be my entry for the contest. I will let you know the results tonight. I have made up 100 fliers advertising our group, the World War One Modeling Site and of course my page. Let's see what happens in the days to follow. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 10/13/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 07:51:16 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bristol F2b Message-ID: <162.2506165.28fad634@aol.com> In a message dated 14/10/01 08:17:20 GMT Daylight Time, fraserinprague@volny.cz writes: << I've heard wing ripple mentioned is it a big prob? >> It's not a problem I have ever had with a BM kit, but every BM FB2 I have seen suffers from it so I suppose I'm just lucky. So I bought the Aeroclub version which, though perhaps not so finely detailed, is IMO more buildable and has better decals. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:19:36 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: Re: old plastic questions Message-ID: <003701c154b2$e0188620$0200a8c0@x.pl> > If thats the case then kit collectors are the priests protecting the > tombs, therefore we are the grave robbers. ;0) So Karen must be our Tomb Raider? :-) G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 22:18:44 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?B?TWFydO1uIEjpY3RvciBBRkZMSVRUTyBFQ0hBR/xF?= To: Subject: RE: Sacramento bound Message-ID: <001501c1544e$2b697b80$b70de818@fibertel.com.ar> Very , very good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and break your cutter!!!!!!! Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Ugulano To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 8:38 AM Subject: [WWI] Sacramento bound > Good Morning all, > > It's just short of 4:30am here is soon to be sunny California (It's > dark out right now) I just hit the button for the coffee pot and in about > 20 minutes we will head for Sacramento. The collection is packed, some ot > kits have been set aside for the Silver Wings raffle and my visor and tools > are at the ready. Never can tell if I have to build another kit for a > little guy while I'm there. Of course I will peruse the vendor's area for > that one kit I don't have. (I don't have a clue what that kit is because > lord knows I don't need any more kits.) > > The Pegasus Taube will be my entry for the contest. I will let you > know the results tonight. I have made up 100 fliers advertising our group, > the World War One Modeling Site and of course my page. Let's see what > happens in the days to follow. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm > Page Revised 10/13/01 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:23:48 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Ansaldo A-1 (Was Re: The 8th Isonzo Battle Message-ID: <004901c154b3$75decf20$0200a8c0@x.pl> > No need to research theYanks in the Polish-Soviet war; I own one of the best > (and only) references which I mentioned in the first e-mail (Karolevitz and > Fenn's 'Flight of Eagles). A lot of god info about them is in Goworek's book 'First fighters of Polish Aviation', in Albatros D.III (Oef.) and Ansaldo 'Balilla' sections. Are you archeologist? G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:28:17 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Squadron Mail Oredr's "Kit of the Year" for 2002 Message-ID: >From: IRAtrumpet@aol.com >when I was there, and they named the Accurate Miniatures Yak. >Reason? >WWII single seaters in 1/48 outsell everything else they >handle. Ira: Not having anywhere close the experience as you have, my limited anecdotal observation leads me to agreement but surely not "ANY" WWII. Surely, mainly German WW2, followed by RAF WW2. VVS WW2 comes a fair way behind in terms of popularity: not that I'm complaining, except I wish AM had lasted long enough to make those VVS kits in 1/72nd scale:). Clearly their choice is purely subjective but it's their brochure so whatever, they can just rock on. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:46:01 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: Pedro's new models Message-ID: <005701c154b6$90da6f20$0200a8c0@x.pl> Congratulations, Pedro! Very good models and very good choice of planes, I think my first models which someday appear on list site gallery will be D.VI (is ready), and HB too, also some Nieuports and Fokkers... And that white and red flag on Linke's fuselage - for me another proof of Polish provenience of that AH ace (he also had an eagle on his Albatros, and white and red checkerboard on very early HB D.I) - You know he was born in Krakow, which was Polish capital untill end of XVI century. The real test of his nationality would be after the war, when many AH pilots decided to live in Poland, but he died before... (Poland not existed as independent country untill 1918 for more than 100 years, and was partitioned between Prussia, Russia and Austria). Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 22:50:00 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_H=E9ctor_AFFLITTO_ECHAG=FCE?= To: "WWI Lista" Subject: Sacramento bound Message-ID: <001e01c15452$8939c2c0$b70de818@fibertel.com.ar> For Dennis: be lucky !!!!!!!!!!! Martín Fierro Vengan santos milagrosos, vengan todos en mi ayuda que la lengua se me añuda y se me turba la vista; pido a mi dios que me asista en una ocasion tan ruda. from José Hernandez Translation : Come miraculous saints, come all in my help that my tongue twistes and the sight muddles ; I pray to my god that he listens to me in such a rough occasion . 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Very nice!!!!!!!!! The Dreidecker 1´s camouflage is enviable (super exellent) :-) Martin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 11:11:34 -0700 From: "Patrick Gilmore" To: Subject: Re: Bristol F2b Message-ID: <002201c154db$a8cf1840$dc2d0d18@grapid1.mi.home.com> The one I have has the worst wing ripple of any of the BM kits that I have purchased. To fix it it will require quite a bit of sanding and the replacement of the wing rib details. Other than that it is an excellent kit. There has been some debate in the past weather or not the ripple is a big problem. My major gripe is that BM has the best wing rib tape detail that I have seen on any kit and it seems a crime to have to sand it all off because of moulding defects. I would highly recommend purchasing it from a shop that lets you open the kit to inspect it before buying. I have heard good things about the Aeroclub F2b as well. I have their RE8 and it is quite nice. Thanks, Patrick Gilmore ----- Original Message ----- From: "fraser" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 12:16 AM Subject: [WWI] Bristol F2b > Hi, > Has anyone built the Brisfit from Blue Max in 1/48th? I'm back in the UK > week after next and plan on picking one up along with a Snipe. Their stuff > looks superb when built. I've heard wing ripple mentioned is it a big prob? > Cheers > Fraser > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 12:22:48 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Odp: Re: old plastic questions Message-ID: <3BC9BBD7.615E64C8@earthlink.net> Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote: > > If thats the case then kit collectors are the priests protecting > the > > tombs, therefore we are the grave robbers. ;0) > > So Karen must be our Tomb Raider? :-) > G. ...with two obvious deficiencies Dame Karen (who is currently stuck at the counter of Duke Burger trying to figure out how to get into the back room...and doesn't intend to start a thread on ot games) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 07:23:34 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: OT book alert: CLERGET PATENT ENGINES Message-ID: Friends, this months issue of FLYPAST holds an ad of a British company that does reprints of very interesting technical manuals about aircraft, steam engines and more. Check out their site at: www.camdenmin.co.uk. The ad announces a new reprint of a techincal manual about license build WW1 Clerget's 9B and 9BF. I checked their site and found also other very interesting books about rigging and repairing the airframe of various aircraft, including the Sopwith Camel and the Brisfit, etc. Unfortunately they rely on GIF graphics to display their book decriptions, which makes the site very slow to load. On the news page not all of the GIFs even loaded so I don't know what else they have to offer. But already the book about the Clergets is worth an order IMHO. The price is 9.50£ in GB or 10.20£ for overseas orders. have fun Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 11:32:30 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ansaldo A-1 (Was Re: The 8th Isonzo Battle Message-ID: <3BC9DA3E.6DB73135@earthlink.net> Is Goworek's book in Polish? Yes I'm what's known as a "professional" archaeologist (which means I work for an environmental engineering firm rather than teach at a university as little as possible), and after 10+ years, I'm finally almost making a living at it. Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote: > > No need to research theYanks in the Polish-Soviet war; I own one > of the best > > (and only) references which I mentioned in the first e-mail > (Karolevitz and > > Fenn's 'Flight of Eagles). > A lot of god info about them is in Goworek's book 'First fighters of > Polish Aviation', in Albatros D.III (Oef.) and Ansaldo 'Balilla' > sections. > Are you archeologist? > G. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 22:15:42 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Drawing of Aviatik needed Message-ID: <005201c154ec$ffe07640$31ac72d4@FRITZweb> > Hans > > Excuse me my ignorence the Aviatic P14(1913) is = Aviatic BI ? > > > Martín Martin, to all my knowledge the Aviatik B.I appeared in 1914. I have never heard of a Aviatik P14, but this means nothing. It only means that I am clueless. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:20:27 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Oscar Message-ID: <000701c154ed$cceab240$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> Did Oscar go to war again? I'm referring to GVW's article in OTF V15 #3 on the 13th Aero Squadron (Biddle's group). Oscar being the squadron emblem, a running skeleton wielding a scythe. In the article GVW mentions that the squadron was recently re-activated as the 13th Bomb Group and are now flying B-1B Lancers out of Dyess AFB in Texas. Anyone know if this squadron is involved in the current war? sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:00:40 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: "ww1 list" Subject: The 8th Isonzo Battle Message-ID: <000501c154f3$48d21c40$4ee597d4@default> I know you're busy Alberto, so double thanks for your interesting account. I didn't mean you to have to write so much, but I'm glad you did! I know altogether too little about this fascinating part of the Great War. It gives a perspective to your articles about 2-seaters in Windsock. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:22:13 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Catching up Message-ID: <001b01c154f6$4b8b6880$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> Too many long hours at work, so I'm just catching up looking at the new pictures. Karen, all I can say is that someone needs to go after Diego with a cattle prod, he has been seriously slacking in his finger chopping duties. ;-) Mark, why did I bother to take photos at the museum? That is some beautiful work and it will be very useful to us 3d analog types. Pedro, I love the HB! and you look like you got the struts just right. I like the way you got the ribs on the CDL . Very nice D.VI too. sp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3799 **********************