WWI Digest 3794 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Subject: Merlin kit by "Matt Bittner" 2) Aurora DH4 - Fair Price by John & Allison Cyganowski 3) You Know You're a Modeller When... by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 4) Re: Airbrush by "Lee M." 5) Re: Airbrush by "Steven Perry" 6) RE: Attention Please Spad Afficionados by "Matt Bittner" 7) Re: Subject: Merlin kit by Rory Goodwin 8) Re: Airbrush by "Lee M." 9) Polish Air Force by Karen Rychlewski 10) Re: Polish Air Force by "Drew Ronayne" 11) by "fraser" 12) Re: Subject: Merlin kit by Todd Hayes 13) Re: Polish Air Force by Crawford Neil 14) Avions OT content by Crawford Neil 15) RE: by "dfernet0" 16) Clostermann by "dfernet0" 17) RE: wanted suggestions for reading by "dfernet0" 18) RE: Clostermann by Crawford Neil 19) Question to the list by "Matt Bittner" 20) RE: wanted suggestions for reading by Crawford Neil 21) RE: Name of thingy by "dfernet0" 22) RE: Name of thingy by "Matt Bittner" 23) RE: Name of thingy by Crawford Neil 24) RE: Name of thingy by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 25) Re: Airbrush by Balzer Mr Gregory P 26) RE: Polish Air Force by "dfernet0" 27) RE: Attention Please Spad Afficionados by "dfernet0" 28) Re: Airbrush by Crawford Neil 29) Different techniques same result was RE: RE: Attention Plea by Crawford Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:17:12 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Subject: Merlin kit Message-ID: <200110120015.RAA03669@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:26:36 -0400 (EDT), John Huggins wrote: > The only reason I can think of to buy a Merlin kit would be to have a > kit that can't be built without a tremendous amount of work or to > have something to put on E-Bay and hope a collector and not a builder > to go for it (when in need of a large amount of cash) Not to defend Merlin or anything, but they did have a number of good kits no one else has done yet. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:17:04 -0400 From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Aurora DH4 - Fair Price Message-ID: <01C15291.B79F71E0.janah@worldnet.att.net> Hello Ladies & Gents, I have come across an Aurora DH4. What is the going rate for this kit? What should I expect to pay? Please respond off list as I am not currently subscribed.. Regards, John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:33:53 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: You Know You're a Modeller When... Message-ID: This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below: You Know you are a Modeller when.... 1) You have ten Sopwith Camels in the Cupboard but can find reasons to buy another one. 2) You have nine different brands of white paint for "just the right shade". 3) There is a crowd of angry household members queuing up in front of the modelling cupboard all looking for various household tools that have been pressed into service for modelling. 4) You get excited by rust. NB: Observations borne of personal experience. : ) All the Best Neil E. _________________________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication, you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of the Department of Human Services. 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Install a gauge system. One with tank pressure and one with output line pressure. When you can adjust the output pressure, consistantly, between 12 and 30 pounds, to a precise value, it can increase the value of your airbrush many times. It takes away the pulses of the compressor and it gives a really worthwhile adjustment to the paint flow control. I use a CO2 tank and the tank pressure is about 550 lbs/sq.inch. When it begins to drop, rapidly, the tank needs a refill. I use an output pressure near 20 lbs, (Plus or minus up to about 5 lbs.) most of the time. The output side gauge should only be adjusted with the gas flowing through it. Otherwise it can damage the adjustable diaphram. Gauges are not expensive. I bought mine, used, from a fire extinguisher and welding company for next to nothing 40 years ago. They still work just great. After the airbrush this is the best thing you can get to enhance your painting experience. Many never get this item and do fine work. It can even make them do it better. Always glad to help anyone that really wants to know. Lee M. New Braunfels, Tx Muth and Zulick wrote: > Thanks to Lee & Bob for the airbrush answers. I think I'll try using the #1 > tip a little while and see how it works. > Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:26:48 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Airbrush Message-ID: <00c301c152bc$f9829b20$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > There is another thing that can make your use of the airbrush a joy forever. > > If you do not have one get a tank to go between your compressor and the air > brush. Install a gauge system. One with tank pressure and one with output > line pressure. I find that indispensable. No pulsing and great pressure control. I got a cheap portable air tank like you take to the gas station to fill with air. Some hardware store brass fittings, gauges, valves and a moisture trap. I have a worn out compressor that will put out 30-35 psi, connected to the tank by a lever type bicycle clamp to a standard tire type valve on the tank. The pump is so worn that it won't start if it is connected and there is air in the tank, so it has to be disconnected to start. This has of course worn out the bicycle valve which has to be held on with rubber bands or it leaks air. It leaks some air anyway where it is connected to the air compressor hose under a glob of CA encrusted tape of several types and layers. Same idea Lee, but something tells me your rig could stand inspection by 9 out of 10 DIs ;-) I used to have a CO2 tank, but ended up trading it. That is the way to go folks. Works good, lasts a long time. sp > > When you can adjust the output pressure, consistantly, between 12 and 30 > pounds, to a precise value, it can increase the value of your airbrush many > times. It takes away the pulses of the compressor and it gives a really > worthwhile adjustment to the paint flow control. > > I use a CO2 tank and the tank pressure is about 550 lbs/sq.inch. When it > begins to drop, rapidly, the tank needs a refill. I use an output pressure > near 20 lbs, (Plus or minus up to about 5 lbs.) most of the time. The output > side gauge should only be adjusted with the gas flowing through it. Otherwise > it can damage the adjustable diaphram. > > Gauges are not expensive. I bought mine, used, from a fire extinguisher and > welding company for next to nothing 40 years ago. They still work just great. > After the airbrush this is the best thing you can get to enhance your painting > experience. Many never get this item and do fine work. It can even make them > do it better. > > Always glad to help anyone that really wants to know. > > Lee M. > New Braunfels, Tx > > Muth and Zulick wrote: > > > Thanks to Lee & Bob for the airbrush answers. I think I'll try using the #1 > > tip a little while and see how it works. > > Mike Muth > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:50:55 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Attention Please Spad Afficionados Message-ID: <200110120149.SAA07280@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:47:52 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > Anyway, how would YOU do these? The masters of the Nieuport interplane struts I made were from a single piece of sprue. However, the landing gear struts I made for the HD.3 were from three pieces of Contrail strut. After gluing together with liquid glue, I reinforced with CA. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:15:23 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject: Merlin kit Message-ID: <3BC6604B.53898B8C@earthlink.net> I have to concur with Matt on this one. The Bre. XIV and Roland D.II kits are not bad at all, as they seem to have been based on Czechmaster kits... Matt Bittner wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:26:36 -0400 (EDT), John Huggins wrote: > > > The only reason I can think of to buy a Merlin kit would be to have a > > kit that can't be built without a tremendous amount of work or to > > have something to put on E-Bay and hope a collector and not a builder > > to go for it (when in need of a large amount of cash) > > Not to defend Merlin or anything, but they did have a number of good > kits no one else has done yet. > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:39:06 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Airbrush Message-ID: <3BC665DA.59D9909@x25.net> Nice to have a cohort in the scheme of things. I try to give good advice. Lee M. Steven Perry wrote: > > There is another thing that can make your use of the airbrush a joy > forever. > > > > If you do not have one get a tank to go between your compressor and the > air > > brush. Install a gauge system. One with tank pressure and one with > output > > line pressure. > > I find that indispensable. No pulsing and great pressure control. I got a > cheap portable air tank like you take to the gas station to fill with air. > Some hardware store brass fittings, gauges, valves and a moisture trap. I > have a worn out compressor that will put out 30-35 psi, connected to the > tank by a lever type bicycle clamp to a standard tire type valve on the > tank. The pump is so worn that it won't start if it is connected and there > is air in the tank, so it has to be disconnected to start. This has of > course worn out the bicycle valve which has to be held on with rubber bands > or it leaks air. It leaks some air anyway where it is connected to the air > compressor hose under a glob of CA encrusted tape of several types and > layers. > > Same idea Lee, but something tells me your rig could stand inspection by 9 > out of 10 DIs ;-) > > I used to have a CO2 tank, but ended up trading it. That is the way to go > folks. Works good, lasts a long time. > sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:23:19 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Polish Air Force Message-ID: <3BC67036.58D4EC4@earthlink.net> Thanks to everyone for the kind words about the photos of the Polish Air Force (part 1). I'm pleased that y'all enjoyed them--that always adds to the satisfaction of building them. Nigel Rayner asked how long it took to paint the sworl fabric; I wish I could answer that--'forever' comes to mind as a quick response. I recall that the Goworek book had a drawing of the sworl design that made it a little easier to keep track of the shapes and colors; I started by lightly penciling a grid of diamonds with circles inside on the surfaces and then picked up the paintbrush. After each color, I used a sharp xacto blade to refine the shapes and it was just a matter of paint, scrape, paint next color, scrape, paint, scrape (oops, hand twitched), paint (oops, too much paint), scrape--ad infinitum. To cut stencils or masks would have been twice the work for me. Diego wanted to know about the figure with the Albatros; I meant to mention that since I know some of you are interested in putting OT figures in/on/near your models. That one was a cast metal Airwaves figure, AW41; their figures are quite nicely detailed and not very expensive. They have German, French, and British OT pilots and observers at http://www.airwaves.org.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_1_48_Figures_19.html Barry of Rosemont Hobby has a couple of nice 1/48 resin Germans http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/atlee.htm ...and of course, Copper State Models has the new line of resin figures. Usual disclaimer: no connection, no kickback, just satisfied modeler. Enjoy! Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 15:24:08 +1000 From: "Drew Ronayne" To: Subject: Re: Polish Air Force Message-ID: <024101c152de$1f728220$33f98ec6@t9hf2> Dang, I must have missed this thread. Could someone please forward Dame Karen's original email? I take it there's a url with a gallery... correct? Regards Drew Andrew Ronayne NSW Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Rychlewski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, 12 October 2001 2:28 Subject: [WWI] Polish Air Force > Thanks to everyone for the kind words about the photos of the Polish Air > Force (part 1). I'm pleased that y'all enjoyed them--that always adds to > the satisfaction of building them. > > Nigel Rayner asked how long it took to paint the sworl fabric; I wish I > could answer that--'forever' comes to mind as a quick response. I recall > that the Goworek book had a drawing of the sworl design that made it a > little easier to keep track of the shapes and colors; I started by lightly > penciling a grid of diamonds with circles inside on the surfaces and then > picked up the paintbrush. After each color, I used a sharp xacto blade to > refine the shapes and it was just a matter of paint, scrape, paint next > color, scrape, paint, scrape (oops, hand twitched), paint (oops, too much > paint), scrape--ad infinitum. To cut stencils or masks would have been > twice the work for me. > > Diego wanted to know about the figure with the Albatros; I meant to mention > that since I know some of you are interested in putting OT figures > in/on/near your models. That one was a cast metal Airwaves figure, AW41; > their figures are quite nicely detailed and not very expensive. They have > German, French, and British OT pilots and observers at > http://www.airwaves.org.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_1_48_Figures_19.html > > Barry of Rosemont Hobby has a couple of nice 1/48 resin Germans > http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/atlee.htm > > ..and of course, Copper State Models has the new line of resin figures. > > Usual disclaimer: no connection, no kickback, just satisfied modeler. > > Enjoy! > > Dame Karen > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 01:51:58 +0200 From: "fraser" To: Message-ID: <000201c152df$e412b360$6bdc7ac3@fraserinprague> Good Morning from a new recruit, Does anyone have a contact adress for Martin Digmayer? I gather he's a Czech and I've seen pictures of his propellors. I'm living in Prague at present and would like a prop or two without having to get them sent from the States (long way for a prop to fly...from here to there and back again) Thanks Fraser ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:46:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject: Merlin kit Message-ID: <20011012064640.709.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> The Merlin 1:48 kits are all horrible. The parts are so thick, there's enough plastic in the box to make two 1:48 kits. The type of a/c listed as the contents on the box sometimes has little resemblance to the actual contents. Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:26:36 -0400 (EDT), John > Huggins wrote: > > > The only reason I can think of to buy a Merlin kit > would be to have a > > kit that can't be built without a tremendous > amount of work or to > > have something to put on E-Bay and hope a > collector and not a builder > > to go for it (when in need of a large amount of > cash) > > Not to defend Merlin or anything, but they did have > a number of good > kits no one else has done yet. > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 08:51:49 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Polish Air Force Message-ID: It's on the list gallery: http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Rychlewski/Polish/index.html /Neil C. > > Dang, > > I must have missed this thread. Could someone please forward > Dame Karen's > original email? I take it there's a url with a gallery... correct? > > Regards > Drew > > Andrew Ronayne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:51:42 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Avions OT content Message-ID: OT content in Avions 103 September-01 is an article about Jasta 17 ace Georg Strasser, part 1 some pics and profiles of his Albatrosses. In Avions 102 there were some good pics of Czeck Spad crashes. ot content in no.103 Dewoitine D371 Pierre Closterman Channel dash 1942 219 sqn Mosquitos in France 44-45 Do22 in Greece Whitley in Coastal command /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 06:59:57 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Message-ID: <005401c15304$a669a300$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Fraser! Welcome to the list from Argentina, you'll enjoy our madness. There's other listees from the czech republic and one of us is the US distributor, so I'm sure that the MD info will appear. Tell us, what do you like to build? Wich scale? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: fraser To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: [WWI] > > Good Morning from a new recruit, > Does anyone have a contact adress for Martin Digmayer? I gather he's a Czech > and I've seen pictures of his propellors. I'm living in Prague at present > and would like a prop or two without having to get them sent from the States > (long way for a prop to fly...from here to there and back again) > Thanks > Fraser > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:04:02 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Clostermann Message-ID: <005501c15305$3863efe0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil wrote: > ot content in no.103 > Pierre Closterman An ace and one of the last "gentleman warriors" in the sky. Speaking of him, don't let go any chance to read any of the books written by Clostermann! They're of ot content, but great aviation narrative and a well balanced opinion towards the enemies, wich was rare in years just after the ending of the war. His titles are (from the top of my head): The Big Show, Flames from the Sky, (one or two about sport fishing but neat anyway), and other about aerial fire support in the Algerian War. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:12:29 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: wanted suggestions for reading Message-ID: <009901c15306$66345760$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sanjeev! You may like the new Osprey series on WW1 aces about albatrosen, Nieuports and others. If not, "Aces High", "The Years of the Sky Kings", "Saggitarius Rising", "Flying Fury" among others are books of OT content that I'm sure you'll like. There's others too, but I haven't read them so I'll left the review for others. Check anyway any book written by Clostermann, Saint Exupery, Johnnie Johnson or Anne Morrow Lindbergh if you like excellent aviation literature D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sanjeev Hirve To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 6:20 PM Subject: [WWI] wanted suggestions for reading > Hi list, > I have been reading a book by Martin Caidin about the (ot) "P-** > L********, F**ked-tail devil". > Are there books of similar nature on WW-I aircraft, books that include > history, technical description and narratives of its pilots. My reading on > WWI aircraft has been limited to 2-3 books so far. The local library does > not carry a big selection. > Any suggestions will be appreciated. > Thanks > SSH > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:19:54 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Clostermann Message-ID: Flames in the sky, I think. And I agree that The Big Show is one of the best aviation books ever written. The Closterman article seems to have some new and interesting information according to the blurb, unfortunately I only got that far last night before the TV news was over, I do my reading while watching TV, and if there is nothing on (like yesterday) nothing gets read. The up-side of this is that I went and did some modelling. So OT content is that I enjoyed myself hacking apart the Schneider floats, they are too wide and short for the racer, I cut one of them in half with my biggest cutting disc on the dremel, it was great, lost too much plastic though, so I had to do it in more cowardly fashion (with a razor saw) on the other one. They are all glued together now, waiting for filler, and re-skinning. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 12 oktober 2001 12:00 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Clostermann > > > Neil wrote: > > ot content in no.103 > > Pierre Closterman > > An ace and one of the last "gentleman warriors" in the sky. > Speaking of him, > don't let go any chance to read any of the books written by > Clostermann! > They're of ot content, but great aviation narrative and a > well balanced > opinion towards the enemies, wich was rare in years just > after the ending of > the war. > His titles are (from the top of my head): The Big Show, > Flames from the Sky, > (one or two about sport fishing but neat anyway), and other > about aerial > fire support in the Algerian War. > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 05:25:11 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Question to the list Message-ID: <200110121024.DAA26660@pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Okay, here it is. We all know Mark Miller's stunning 3-D renderings. We also know that images are best - to cover all grounds - at 800x600; however, Mark's renderings are normally larger than that in size. Should we keep the images at original size, or resize them smaller? While we are growing short on disk space - which resizing would help - I still like to see the renderings in the original size. Plus resizing would also help bandwidth in that since there's less of an image, there's less of it to download. What does everyone think? Oh web master, what do you think? Matt Bittner WW1 Site Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:27:17 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: wanted suggestions for reading Message-ID: As usual I suggest Winged Victory by V.S. Yeates , I hope I got the name right. A good technical book if you can get it is "The Speed Seekers" by Thomas G. Foxworth, it's about racers 1919-1924, but you'll probably learn more about WW1 aviation by reading that, than a dozen lesser OT works. Was the Martin Caidin book, the one where the hero strips his P38 and challenges the local Zero pilots to a one on one. That was a fun read, sort of far-fetched but still fun. /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:39:44 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Name of thingy Message-ID: <00ad01c1530a$34e229e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Sanjeev asked: > When aircraft rigging wires cross in an X, they are sometimes connected > together by some sort of fastener. What is this object called? It depends on the country of origin of the airplane design, and it's a subject that has caused many many discussions thru the years. In fact a small balkan country was invaded because of it. - In the British Isles, this device was called: "Streamlined aerial thingie MkIIIc" Years before the war, during the victorian era, they were a fashionable object to display on the chimney's mantlepiece. - In France it's called:"Le petit larme de bois qui est attaché á les fils d'un avion qui vole dans le ciel bleu" - In the Tsarist Russia: "Holy Grigurovitchthinghie" and after 1917 "Heroic People's liberation thingie" but the holy Grigurovitchthinghies kept in use until 1924, when they were prohibited by the supreme Soviet in the called "Pact of Kalinovski" - Imperial Germany called these as: "Dachsundhölzernerthingier" and were commended by the Kaiser himself to be used on all the Albatros designs. They came in different sizes, the bigger of them ever was the experimental aircraft DFW T.28 "Floh". - Italy called them: "Stronzinni" but they were licensed products from France. Tamara de Lempicka said in her Memories that Gabriele D'Annunzio had one of these objects in his "Lover's Chest" at the Vittoriale, for any unknown reason. I hope that this made it clear for you, Sanjeev. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 05:40:11 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Name of thingy Message-ID: <200110121038.DAA26773@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 06:34:48 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > I hope that this made it clear for you, Sanjeev. ROTFLMAO!!! D, you are one, sick puppy. And don't change! :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:39:46 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Name of thingy Message-ID: Diego, you are too much, I couldn't even supress the giggling this time, most embarassing in an open-plan office. /Neil C. (drying his eyes) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:39:47 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Name of thingy Message-ID: Brilliant, made me really smile, which is no small achievement on a Friday morning...... N > >It depends on the country of origin of the airplane design, .......... -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:04:03 -0400 From: Balzer Mr Gregory P To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Airbrush Message-ID: <47637867E285D5118FAE00B0D0D1C97668C545@TECOM03E> Good Morning Lee, Continuing the airbrush line of questions, I am interested in setting up a C02 system. I have been told that C02 "freezes" the paint, industrial C02 is "dirty," and that the bottles require inspection. I tend to think a lot of this is BS. What says you? The system sounds simple, clean and most importantly, QUIET. I'd like to tap in to your experience, and ask if you would be so kind to contact me off list to answer some questions, unless everyone wants the hear about C02 systems. TIA, Greg Balzer -----Original Message----- From: Lee M. [mailto:lemen@x25.net] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 11:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Airbrush Nice to have a cohort in the scheme of things. I try to give good advice. Lee M. Steven Perry wrote: > > There is another thing that can make your use of the airbrush a joy > forever. > > > > If you do not have one get a tank to go between your compressor and the > air > > brush. Install a gauge system. One with tank pressure and one with > output > > line pressure. > > I find that indispensable. No pulsing and great pressure control. I got a > cheap portable air tank like you take to the gas station to fill with air. > Some hardware store brass fittings, gauges, valves and a moisture trap. I > have a worn out compressor that will put out 30-35 psi, connected to the > tank by a lever type bicycle clamp to a standard tire type valve on the > tank. The pump is so worn that it won't start if it is connected and there > is air in the tank, so it has to be disconnected to start. This has of > course worn out the bicycle valve which has to be held on with rubber bands > or it leaks air. It leaks some air anyway where it is connected to the air > compressor hose under a glob of CA encrusted tape of several types and > layers. > > Same idea Lee, but something tells me your rig could stand inspection by 9 > out of 10 DIs ;-) > > I used to have a CO2 tank, but ended up trading it. That is the way to go > folks. Works good, lasts a long time. > sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 08:12:35 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Polish Air Force Message-ID: <016c01c1530e$cc1ec260$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Karen! Thanks a lot for the link to airwaves! I didn't knew of them. They look neat and I think I'll be ordering some after I complete my collection of those sold by Eric. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 08:13:12 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Attention Please Spad Afficionados Message-ID: <017201c1530e$e1988040$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks a lot Matt! Sick Puppy ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Attention Please Spad Afficionados > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:47:52 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > > > Anyway, how would YOU do these? > > The masters of the Nieuport interplane struts I made were from a single > piece of sprue. However, the landing gear struts I made for the HD.3 > were from three pieces of Contrail strut. After gluing together with > liquid glue, I reinforced with CA. > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:08:01 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Airbrush Message-ID: I'd like to tap in to your experience, > and ask if you > would be so kind to contact me off list to answer some > questions, unless > everyone wants the hear about C02 systems. > > TIA, > Greg Balzer > Yes please, it's about modelling so OT. /Neil C. (perfectly satisfied with my 25 year old Badger compressor, but still interested) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:17:58 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Different techniques same result was RE: RE: Attention Plea Message-ID: It's fascinating how we all do things in different ways, and usually end up with a good result anyway. It was the same thing with the wing-ribs we were talking about yesterday. Seems to me that the most important thing is to DO something. /Neil C. > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:47:52 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > > > > > Anyway, how would YOU do these? > > > > The masters of the Nieuport interplane struts I made were > from a single > > piece of sprue. However, the landing gear struts I made > for the HD.3 > > were from three pieces of Contrail strut. After gluing > together with > > liquid glue, I reinforced with CA. > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3794 **********************